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 voog
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Just watching Emmerdale (oops) do you think gay marriage should be legal in this country as opposed to civil partnerships?

I personnaly think it should, if your happy why shouldn' you be allowed to show it for all the world?
 voog
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Posted: 8/1/2008 1:04:08 PM
I am interested to know why you think that?

Do you think they could pass on their sexuality to a child by perhaps some form of education? I can't see why gay couples can't offer an excellent upbringing for a child in a loving enviroment certainly in a lot of cases more caring and loving than heterosexual couples?
 voog
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Posted: 8/1/2008 1:05:00 PM
Oh lol that was for post 13 haven't figured out how to quote yet!!
 voog
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Posted: 8/1/2008 1:29:33 PM
And if you do not - they think this is normal and go the same way?


Wooooo hang on .. sexuality is within it's not taught or learned!!!!

I have had several gay friends in my time never once did I think oh let's try it cause they do it!!

Personnaly I agree with post x (cant go back up to it) if I had a son/daughter who was gay and they turned out good people I'd be proud .... simple

I never meant this to turn into a gay rights campaign was just interested in views of the topic
 voog
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Posted: 8/1/2008 2:00:01 PM
OK guys shall we just call a breather there? Popular concensus is yes gay weddings should be permitted and celebrated which is what i suspected would be the concensus.

On the other points well I wasn't planning to discuss those perhaps another thread could be started before it all gets messy???
 voog
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Posted: 8/1/2008 2:52:27 PM

as far as i am aware marriage was originated in biblical times and was done in the sight of god.or that was the intention.i.e. the reason you ask for gods blessing in the church service etc.if your a practising gay then you are in no position to be asking for gods blessing or having any part in what is supposed to be a religious ceremony.leave the act of marriage to the people who respect the bible's teachings and everything it stands for and stick to your civil partnerships which are not marriages.i'm sick of people quoting gay marriages when they are actually civil partnerships



Are you religious then?
 voog
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Posted: 8/1/2008 3:05:57 PM

I just find that it goes agaings everything that i was brought up to believe so i am 100% agaings it but have no trouble being around them aslong as thay dont try anything dodgy its totally wierd if you ask me


So every girl within reachin distance grabs your arse???

a fag in the distance is ok but obviously if you introduce me to him he's(she) gonna try and pull me/you!!!


Get a life mate they have taste like us all ... not meant to say they won't fancy you just don't make the assumption you're male your sexy!!! do you think all gay folk go for anything? they have wants needs tastes like us all
 restless_native
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Posted: 8/1/2008 3:10:22 PM
I think there is a fundamental principal here.

Whether we approve or not of gay marriage isn't the point. The real issue is that no-one should be able to enforce restrictions on others simply because of their own beliefs.

Just because some people disapprove of gay marriage that shouldn't stop gay people from marrying if they choose that is the commitment which they wish to make.

As the subject has also been raised I also think this principal extends to gay couples who want to raise children. If this is something which you are against the answer is simple. Don't become gay and don't have kids.

Nowadays people seem all to eager to judge others when really they have absolutely no right to do so.
 voog
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Posted: 8/1/2008 3:11:52 PM

Gay marriage will come - lets be patient - why I hear you ask? because marriage is commitment in front of God and the bible teaches that same sex partnerships is wrong. This will take time for people like the archbishop to change their thinking and the church leaders in this country but they will. Lets not run before we can walk.


Not being religious marriage would simply be a committment to that person to me it would be a very personnel thing.
 voog
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Posted: 8/1/2008 3:22:28 PM

in reply to one question.yes i am religious.in reply to several other comments,i have'nt got a week to explain where your comments fall short about various aspects and contents of the bible.i've heard most of the comments before and there is'nt a question raised yet that has'nt been answered by various scholars and professors who are experts in their respective field.i had plenty of religious quips when i was a child and rebelious adult,but thankfully i gave up being blind to the real world and where it has gone wrong.and i opened my eyes and saw it for what it really is.and just for the record not accepting something because it has become commonplace in todays society does not make me narrow minded.and it does'nt make it right either.


Then you have read your mind
 restless_native
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Posted: 8/1/2008 3:33:23 PM

if hetero couples have the right to stand before their God and promise to love, honour and cherish, then while the hell can't gay couples?


Because it states in the Bible that a man must not lie with another man and everything in that book has to be taken literally.

You know, like it being acceptable to beat the crap out of your wife if she gives you lip or stone her to death for being unfaithful. Although I am still trying to figure out how you're supposed to turn the other cheek whilst taking an eye for an eye.

It is the word of God you know. Not just a collection of stories written by men as a form of moral guidance aimed at people who lived a couple of millenia ago which has little relevance now that society has evolved into it's current state.
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Posted: 8/1/2008 3:35:40 PM

Having a 19yr old Daughter whos gay.. and whom Im very very proud of.. I would love to hear your reasoning behind this???
changed the age but Im still proud of her...Id be happy if My daughetr had a civil partnership with her current partner...
 voog
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Posted: 8/1/2008 4:24:25 PM
OK this got a little off track really .... so homophobics relax statistically you are the most likely gays anyhow! Everyone else big hug :-)
 voog
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Posted: 8/1/2008 5:21:13 PM
Look now just take the argument to another post please!

The post was about gay marriage tangents should be discussed elsewhere??


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Voogy
 bexonlegs
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Posted: 8/2/2008 6:43:20 AM
I believe every person has the right to be in a happy, loving relationship be it with a man women or teletubby (just an example)....
I have been single 11 years and I'm only 31!!! I would give anything to feel that way about someone and if it were a women, i wouldn't give a flying f**k what anyone else thought of me!! So be it male or female, go out there and fill ya boots people!!!
 Chippy2
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Posted: 8/3/2008 2:51:53 PM
Oh come on folks, we can all see GOD is gay in some way, either he is a man and made Adam in his own image and then made Eve to spice things up a bit. Which could explain why some women say it takes 2 men to please one woman.

Or !!

God is a woman and came up with Adam because she was in need of a Rampant Rabbit and there were no Duracells, but after a while she decide to make Eve so he could get some practise in and she could get to Parrr Tayy as well with Eve. Hence the latent male fantasy of having 2 women in his bed.

Either way we have a scenario for God to be Bisexual, and you can not say God was not interested in sex, as God must have parents !!!

So yes if Gays want to get married as far as I am concerned they can, with all it trappings.
Also the meaning of marriage has changed, it no longer denotes a female belonging to a male in order that his goods are passed on to his heirs alone, rather than that of a randy passing milkman, postman, or any other tradesman
 Mister0Independent
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Posted: 8/15/2017 5:16:32 PM
As a Catholic, I have to say it's not right, but gays should have the right to choose their lifestyle. The only issue I have is them adopting children. I can't imagine two poofs trying to raise a child.
 imanorangetiger
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Posted: 8/16/2017 4:12:26 AM

As a Catholic, I have to say it's not right, but gays should have the right to choose their lifestyle. The only issue I have is them adopting children. I can't imagine two poofs trying to raise a child.


Thought you were 39, not 79?


God created the heavens and the earth, then God created man, then God created woman. God also said that man shall not lie with man.

That's what the Bible says in various places.


That's right: it's what the bible says. The bible that was written by men with a vested interest in controlling their social group.
 Justanotherchap
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Posted: 8/16/2017 4:48:26 AM
" I can't imagine two poofs trying to raise a child."

For a guy who has personal issues socialising with other people, I would have thought you might have a little more understanding how the use of derogatory terms like this can be hurtful.
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
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Posted: 8/16/2017 4:53:58 AM

As a Catholic, I have to say it's not right,

(My bold)
You don't actually "have to" say or do anything,
just because an organisation which first orchestrated, and then covered-up, the rape of thousands of children, "tell you to".
Those dirty old perverts probably also "told" all those children that they "had to" let them do what they did to them, they probably told them "it's what god wants" too.

Try using your own brain, instead of listening to a bunch of pederasts in dresses.
Why would you listen to them?


but gays should have the right to choose their lifestyle. The only issue I have is them adopting children. I can't imagine two poofs trying to raise a child.

Well, that just shows that you lack imagination.
Fortunately, you don't have to "imagine" it, there are many examples, like "Elton".

In the past, when homosexuality was still illegal , many fathers (and mothers) had a sexual attraction to their own gender, but simply hid it.
Gay people have been raising children, quite successfully, forever.
You just didn't know about it.

Bottom line: [NPI]
It's none of your business how other people choose to live.
 imanorangetiger
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:03:19 AM
I wonder what Mister0Independent was searching for to find this eight year old thread?

Congratulations on your correct use of the word 'pedarast', Jo Van.
 Mister0Independent
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Posted: 8/16/2017 7:26:51 AM
Chap, I'm actually not British, so I didn't know the term "poof" was that offensive. I thought it was just used as a playful jest. I'm not a bigot. I have gay friends. The Catholic Church doesn't punish people for being gay anymore. That's still happening in the Islamic countries that have the death penalty or flogging for homosexuality. Then these countries have the nerve to criticize the west as being amoral. I know a lad whose dad divorced and was going to marry another man. It was very hard for his children to accept. His children suffered emotionally and mentally because of it.
 scareymush
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Posted: 8/16/2017 8:59:19 AM

Chap, I'm actually not British, so I didn't know the term "poof" was that offensive.

What nationality are you then?

The Catholic Church doesn't punish people for being gay anymore.

How did the Catholic Church punish people for being gay?
 patriciaanne55
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Posted: 8/16/2017 9:24:11 AM
It's horrific to think what these poor people went through just because of what came naturally and discriminated because of who they had no choice falling in love with. Happy for them, go have babies.

My son in law was the sperm donor for their gay friends, the decision was my daughters as obviously it should have been, they are two wonderful women and I'm so proud of my daughter because of her lovely, generous nature enabling her to do this amazing thing for their friends.

The women love and admire my son in law and wanted their child to know who her Donor was, their boys will look on her as their cousin, they are all one big happy loving family....

The funniest thing was telling some of my friends, one said oh my god did she sleep with him....no she's a lesbian, and ha ha funny if they come after him for maintenance, face palm....
 Mister0Independent
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Posted: 8/16/2017 10:03:24 AM

What nationality are you then?


I'm Canadian. My dad's of English, French, Scottish, and Portuguese ancestry, and my mum was Romanian. I came here because there's nothing going on in the Canadian regional forums. That's ironic because this is a Canadian site.


How did the Catholic Church punish people for being gay


I'm sure if you look at the history of the Middle Ages, you will find some extremely cruel punishments.
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