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 Seafarer227
Joined: 11/8/2007
Msg: 2
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So that's one down and how many thousand others to go?
 CMonster
Joined: 12/4/2004
Msg: 4
Must be college educated?
Posted: 8/11/2008 1:34:10 PM
This is the first time I've ever heard of a guy having a certain level of education as their criteria. On other sites I've seen women state criteria for education, political belief and even financial status as part of their criteria almost as much as a particular religion. People want what they want. The funny thing is that even though someone fits the criteria it's not definite that they are able to offer the things which are believed inherent with those labels.
 tampapoet
Joined: 7/5/2006
Msg: 19
Must be college educated?
Posted: 8/11/2008 4:17:46 PM
Hey MeInSC:

If you like the guy and you think you can hold your ground with him intellectually, why not send him an email? Open with a quote from Neitzsche and tell him why it's still germane today. You'll definitely have his attention.

Good luck.
 jrbickers123
Joined: 6/9/2008
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Posted: 8/11/2008 4:31:21 PM
we all have silly lists we make up for requirements for the other.

I wont date a woman with a lazy eye, or cross-eyed. nor will i date a woman with a peg leg and an eye patch. Or a beard, definitely no beards for me.

now i'm sure theres a peg legged bearded woman with an eyepatch and 1 lazy eye who will take very high offense to me and think im the most sexist pig in the world.


your argument is "this man is clearly not a match for me, I FIND THIS A GREAT INJUSTICE!" theres a reason why this place is called PLENTY of fish. theres a lot to chose from, obviously not all of them will be right for you.
 tmwagner77
Joined: 8/2/2007
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Posted: 8/11/2008 7:01:37 PM
Is this any different from a woman saying she wants a big weiner and a washboard stomach?...me thinks not.
 tmwagner77
Joined: 8/2/2007
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Posted: 8/11/2008 7:11:42 PM
Its okay, you will be able to afford your surgery eventually. Dont lose hope!
 tmwagner77
Joined: 8/2/2007
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Posted: 8/11/2008 7:15:53 PM
Trust me, they dont need enlarging! your boobs would make many a pornstar jealous. I could make a donation, but I thought you didnt want any kids right now :P
 celts123
Joined: 5/15/2008
Msg: 45
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Posted: 8/11/2008 7:32:09 PM
Some people without a college degree can be smarter than a people with a college degree. But I think it's wrong to say that they mean nothing. There are many jobs where a college degree ( or at least an associate's degree ) is required.
 kittybiscuit
Joined: 2/11/2007
Msg: 49
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Posted: 8/11/2008 8:03:10 PM
It is no more shallow to want someone with a degree and a decent job than it is to say you want someone "attractive."

In fact, I'd say it is less so because the said person is placing a value on stability and the ability to see things through. In order to get a degree, a person must spend 4 years of study and work in order to get that paper. While it may not mean much to some, for others it says that the said person took the time and made the effort to educate themselves in order to have a broad basis of knowledge and more simply, to advance their career goals. A degree and a stable job tells a prospective partner that the said person cares about enhancing themselves and providing a stable future. Plus, there is the fact that you might have shared interests if you have a similar educational background.

So no, it's not anymore shallow to require a degree than it is to require a "hot bod" or "attractiveness" or "good height" all of which are things that say nothing about the personality of the person or how they are going to be as a partner.
 Confident-Realist
Joined: 2/8/2004
Msg: 54
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Posted: 8/11/2008 9:20:35 PM
Just as many guys said on here: Why would this be a shock? A controllable GENERAL mid-level achievement, while at the same time it's very common for women to post requirements about a guy that he can't control or is way out there (height, ripped body, nationality, 100k+/yr, post-grad, etc)?

I agree, especially for a woman, he's limiting choices that could be a good match. However, it's a far cry from a standard WTF. Think about it.

Say you're flexible and you go out with guys who claim or seem to be going somewhere in life, but after dating the last 3, they ended up being total lazy losers. You didn't want to be picky and say "you have to make $[this] amount of money", but these guys fell through, and you realized they weren't all that. After this exhaustion, you write "Must be strongly financially independent with a stable job". Now, some other guy could post a message complaining that you were limiting your options. He'd say that there are many guys out there who are in between jobs, and are employable and you're ignoring that, along with other situations like start-up entrepreneurs. Well guess what? Yes, you're stereotyping, but after some recent experience, you're going down the route you know you can handle and not worry about.
 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
Msg: 59
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Posted: 8/12/2008 6:45:37 AM
Anyone who confuses intelligence or education with having gone to school is an idiot.
 Urbanessa
Joined: 8/15/2007
Msg: 61
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Posted: 8/12/2008 9:50:21 AM
@MeInSC



A man or woman has the right to seek a date who possesses those analytical skills and what is more, be interested and able to hold discussions

Is it really true that the person who has a degree is more intelligent than the person who does not? That they can carry on a better conversation than the next person?


No, that is not true. But it isn't what the statement you quoted said either ...
"Intelligence" is intellectual potential. How well a person lives up to that potential is entirely up to that person and has got nothing to do with a college degree.

The statement you quoted, however, refers to analytical skills and an interest and probably an ability in holding discussion, and such skills and abilities are indeed something a college education can (and usually does) enhance.

And as for this:
MeInSC wrote:

I was quite surprised after reading a profile that said "If you're not an intellectual with at least a college education, please don't waste my or your time." (Quote edited to correct grammer mistakes.)


Obviously, there was some pun intended, and you're trying to hint that the profile creator you're quoting can't be too much of a college degree holder himself since he isn't a first class writer/editor. I am wondering, though, what that mysterious "grammer" might be (after all I am a stoooopid foreigner and English is only my second language, so what do I know...), and after giving it some thought I figured that the girl that is criticizing somebody else's editing has a spelling problem herself... Hilarious. :-)


uniquemaninsocal wrote:
I know I look for that intellectual curiosity and the thirst for knowledge and wisdom. Higher education is loosely related but not exclusive either way. You can have someone who has a PhD who is only knowledgeable about their area of expertise and could care less about the rest and you could have someone who got bored of high school and quit who is insatiable when it comes to knowledge and learning. Those are extremes of the same continuum.

Does this person who eliminates people based on education possibly miss out on a few outliers? Sure. But I think this is a quality vs. quantity argument. You may not agree with this person's process of assessing quality or his definition of quality but the bottom line he probably doesn't care to sift through 30 dates just to say he had 30 dates.

I agree with uniquemaninsocal. It's about picking quality over quantity.
Personally, I think that one can hardly be too specific about preferences. The better you know what you are attracted by in a person the easier it is to find that something in the people you meet. There's nothing wrong with preferences.

Besides, looking for a college-educated person doesn't necessarily refer to a degree or a degree-related career (or certain income level) only. It can (and in some cases surely will) refer to having similar experiences and being at a similar stage in life. Even outside the classroom those 4+ years have severe influence on the adult person you become.
 Invictus01
Joined: 2/20/2008
Msg: 65
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Posted: 8/12/2008 7:41:17 PM
While it's not a deal breaker, I would prefer a girl with at least college education. That's just my preference, feel free to kill me.
 o76923
Joined: 11/3/2007
Msg: 67
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Posted: 8/13/2008 1:17:43 AM
I'm not going to lie, I'm in the group where you lose major points for not being in college. After taking some community college classes over the summer to finish up some gen eds, I know how low the bar is for college. There were students in my class who had to sound out big words. I have nothing against them, in fact Barry and I had alot of fun together in the class. However, I know that I'm not going to mesh with him in any meaningful way.

I'm fully aware of the fact that a college degree is just a whole bunch of letters on a piece of paper. But, I'm also aware of the fact that most people aren't able to get too many of those letters. As long as I'm in the top 2% of people, I'd like my partner to at least be in the top 20%.

It's nothing personal. It's just that from my experiences, I find it unlikely that I will get along well with someone who has neither the drive nor ability to actively pursue college. It's the same as I don't think I would get along well with a sports nut, or a mother. It's the same reason that the IE filter was created. It isn't there to punish those not in college, it's just to avoid wasting everyone's time.
 FloridaMusicMan
Joined: 5/15/2008
Msg: 71
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Posted: 8/13/2008 8:52:18 AM
You are happy with your chosen field of work,you have friends to share and family who think your special.A piece of paper cannot give you these riches.All this talk about money and power and prestige.I have a GED from the military.I have controlled Millions of dollars at one time in my Job,traveled the world and lived in places people pay thousands to visit.One's "Station" in life does not make them rich.You open your eyes look into the mirror and say I love my life,my friends,my family.That makes you rich.Materialist crap is just that crap.If all your concerned with during your life is how big your house is,how much money you make,what kind of vehicle you drive,and so on and so forth.Your missing LIFE and living.A Job is a tool to obtain the type of life you want to have,and the opportunities you want to give your children.Granted for some the Degree makes this happen,but there are just as many who did not chose this rout and have all they need in their life.Happiness does not come from a piece of paper.Best of Luck with your fishing
 FloridaMusicMan
Joined: 5/15/2008
Msg: 72
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Posted: 8/13/2008 9:03:59 AM
Responce to Msg 78/If you think that a certificate of Marrage binds your soul to another,your time in Colledge did nothing for you.Many wonderful people commit to each other for a lifetime with out society's (IE: You)narrow minded view that a cerimony and a piece of paper will bind two people in love and happiness.Mayhaps my spelling is not very good,but my meaning is very clear.Those with the so called "Higher Education" that proport uneducated people are beneath or less worthwile due to a lack of education,are in my opinion no better than those who continue to foster racial,religious,gender discrimination!
 SweetnSassyNatureLover
Joined: 4/11/2008
Msg: 77
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Posted: 8/14/2008 1:04:23 PM
Not sure where to begin on this one.... love all the comments!!! Some posters intelligence is definitely showing!!! Alrighty then... anyone remember that movie Good Will Hunting??? Yes it's just a movie but you get the picture right???

There are very highly intelligent people who do not have degree's. Example already given - Bill Gates. There are very ignorant/moronic people with degree's - well no need to point fingers on this one is there?? Heck look at the vast majority of policticians, media spotlighters and so on and so forth.

So though I believe that getting that college education is very valuable for so many different reasons, I do not believe it is a valid indicator of someone's intelligence at all. And intelligence comes from many formats - experiencing life, compassionate interaction with others, all kinds of relationships, spirituality and faith (not religion so don't go getting all bothered). IQ vs EQ.

OK getting all that out of the way.... the preference that a person has is important and we all have them. Obviously the man recognized that he would not be satisified in relationship with someone who didn't have the experience of college/education. He obviously values this greatly, so what is wrong about that??? Good for him for knowing what he likes and dislikes and is able to state it clearly. So many on here haven't a clue and waste time trying to get it figured out.

I have decided to write my own list....

Must have brain that functions on a regular basis.
Must be able to maintain good hygene (no - walking in the rain does not = shower!).
Must be able to spell own name.
Mother and sister must not be the same person.
Must not be female.
Must be breathing.
Must be from planet earth.
Must be richer then Bill Gates.
Must be poorer then Ma and Pa Kettle. (not the same as their creator)
Must be able to flush toilet w/0 instructions, first must aim into toilet and not on walls.
Must not need regular flee bathes, rabbie shots, id tags renewed once a year.
Must not live in a cave.
Must not eat animals found on the side of the road squashed.
Must not wear fur skinned of animals found on side of road dead.
Must say MY name when we're getting all physical and stufff.


 flyingiguana
Joined: 3/4/2008
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Posted: 8/14/2008 3:51:37 PM
a college degree is basically like high school. not very hard to get...
 STH III
Joined: 6/5/2008
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Posted: 8/14/2008 4:38:01 PM
It is usually women that make that requirement and they are closing out a lot of men that she may find intelligent and personable. Huked on foniks werked fer me,lololololol
 Urbanessa
Joined: 8/15/2007
Msg: 84
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Posted: 8/14/2008 5:44:44 PM
@nickwho:

Hate to ruin a good theory, but the guy asked for college education (see the Opost) not a college degree!

Actually, we don't know what the dude exactly asks for in his profile.
To quote the OP: "I was quite surprised after reading a profile that said "If you're not an intellectual with at least a college education, please don't waste my or your time." (Quote edited to correct grammer mistakes.)"

Chances are that by "editing" the original quote the OP has falsified the dude's statement.
 xeot
Joined: 10/25/2007
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Posted: 8/16/2008 12:05:28 AM
re: OP
I don't have a hard educational requirement but I can say from experience that things likely won't go well between me and someone with just a HS education (or even many college degrees that they just got because they had to go college ). What I've found that with women with education too much lower than my own is that they ridicule my thirst for knowledge and that I know a lot of things. They also tend to find a good time at the bottom of a bottle and with other chemical substances. Intellectual conversation is not going to be possible. Even with educated women my openness to ideas different that what we were taught can be problem. Especially when I've found what we are commonly taught to be wrong. Things just aren't going to go well under those conditions.

Re: many people
Those who think a degree is useless, well a lot are. But a lot are not. You need one hell of a self-study program for the hard sciences or engineering.
Also, school is a skill in and of itself, some people are good at, others are not. I've come across some engineers who became engineers because they were good at school, good at tests, reports, homework, etc. They sucked as engineers and no knack or practical understanding.
 thatswhatshesaid
Joined: 12/28/2007
Msg: 102
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Posted: 8/18/2008 12:25:01 PM
Well, being college educated is a lifestyle choice, almost like religion for some. Some people don't just stop once they get their degree, but are frequently going back to school. Sometimes it is to further their career, sometimes it isn't. The fact is, doing so takes time, money and a certain level of commitment. A partner who doesn't see the value of this process, has decided it isn't for them, is not going to be supportive of that lifestyle.

You might think it's "unfair" not to be "picked" because of a choice you made not to go to college, but the fact is, it was your CHOICE, not to study, and it is a college educated man's CHOICE not to date you. We are all looking for other people who are making similar lifestyle choices to us, because it is a good indicator of compatibility.
 Ahoytheredave
Joined: 8/29/2006
Msg: 104
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Posted: 8/18/2008 5:45:46 PM
In GENERAL terms, a college education indicates a greater ability for intelligent conversation and ambition to improve one's self. Like all generalities, there are exceptions both ways. People often like to share stories they can relate to. Many college experiences are full of interesting stories. Mine certainly were. If I were pressured to be silent about that part of my life because it made someone feel inferior, then something would be missing.
 Invictus01
Joined: 2/20/2008
Msg: 105
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Posted: 8/18/2008 8:30:50 PM


Well OP,
Some people want a partner with the closed mind, unbridled arrogance and know- it- all- attitude that a college education brings. Sorry.

Maybe, if you want a partner who's a snotty sh!t, you should go to college, also.




College education? For all that? Please... These days college education is nothing.
 Urbanessa
Joined: 8/15/2007
Msg: 107
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Posted: 8/21/2008 6:17:16 AM

I've seen women's profiles with that same requirement here and on other sites. That's just the type of women I would avoid that are that judgeMENTAL.

Actually, it is the type of women that has preferences. Nothing wrong with that.
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