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 SteelCity1981
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I think it has something to do with how he will confirm he looks like Ross Perot.


Yeah he is prob going to move towards the center and take on Barr and Nader. Good move and that's what he needs to do to.
 SteelCity1981
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/9/2008 5:48:49 PM
Yeah that's what i meant that Ron Paul will prob announce he is running as an Indy, which i think it's a good move for him to move in that direction to take on guys like Barr and Nader. I wish Ron Paul would have went in that direction in the first place.
 SteelCity1981
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/9/2008 10:21:43 PM

No. I mean. Ron Paul. Looks like Ross Perot.


Oh i thought you meant he looks like him the way he was going to do it.

Nah Ross Perot has a those dumbo ears.
 kabiosile
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 12:37:21 AM
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 kabiosile
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 12:38:13 AM
Here is something that might have to do with his announcement. I know he will not support obama not mccain. He has huge fundamental issues with both candidates.



Constitution Party Filed Paperwork Friday
Ron Paul Will be on Presidential Ballot
 kabiosile
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 12:59:01 AM
not sure on how credible it is but here ya go.

http://www.flatheadbeacon.com/articles/article/ron_paul_will_be_on_presidential_ballot/5423/
 kabiosile
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 1:02:30 AM
Seems like they are only putting him on ballot in Montana and I heard that from more than one source.

Weird if you ask me. I like Ron Paul and also Nader. They are the most interesting of choices presented before us in my opinion and they are also the ones who received the least amount of coverage. I wish they allowed them to be part of the presidential debate.

Would make for a MUCH more lively debate and likely allow for a more diverse opinion in the country as to what change should look like. Saying that most people think change is a must!
 kabiosile
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 1:37:07 AM
I hear ya..

I am still torn. I will likely vote obama just so a social conservative is not a heartbeat from office.

I prefer nader or paul for sure. Seems in this case right now an indirect vote for mccain.
I believe in voting your heart but, after bush won last time. Ugggh

Not again.
 kabiosile
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 2:34:53 AM
While I do honestly appreciate that a person has the right to change their mind. I also tend to respect that in a person. I do tend to agree with you on Barr. I would choose Paul to hold that title but he went for the hail mary trying to appeal to the one or two fiscal conservatives that were left in the stands in the republican party. I would think most have wised up and left those people (the republican party) already seeing them for what they really are.

I am pretty much willing to say libertarians already lost this election but, on a good note that is somewhat sour is the next president might just make it possible for a serious chance for a 3rd party candidate to be considered seriously again.

What Mr, Paul tried Might have worked back when ross perot did his number 2 on the stage back in the day but, today republicans are FAR more fiscally irresponsible than even the most wildly irresponsible of liberal democrats. To think they supported the idea to run the economy into the ground and get involved in a two front war and then try to lower taxes is the craziest economic suicide plan I have ever heard of. To then also pump up corporate welfare while claiming it is evil socialism to have social programs for the working poor and disabled is beyond hypocritical its sick.

Sad when only the D or R party gets all the attention and does not really have to answer to those of the libertarians, independents green etc.....

I think we should hear from them all, and the people should have the information to make a proper choice and stop this two party nonsense that has nonstop caused serious lack of progress and the steady decline of our nation and erosion of our liberties most especially noted recently under this past administration who has done severe damage!

We need someone to not only repair the damage done but, hold those who did this accountable to the letter of the law.
 MacKevinized
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 4:24:31 AM

Rep. Ron Paul has confirmed today on Neil Cavuto's show today that he is preparing a major announcement tomorrow. So let the speculation begin. Is he running for president on a 3rd party ticket? He didn't tip his hand at all. So what do you think it will be.

I think it has something to do with how he will confirm he looks like Ross Perot.


Mr. Paul seems to be really good at one thing, the economy. As he found out, being a 1 issue candidate does not garner as much support as having solutions for many issues or promulgating a series of lies.

He doesn't appear to fall in line with the republican lie machine so his future with them seems tenuous at best.

I really like his views on economy and think he would do good for us in the treasury department.

So my guess is he will give his support to Obama because I know he wants change and that would be his best option for helping implement an economic overhaul. Where the economy, instead of being owned by a few, is fair to everyone.
 dwayne88
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 6:29:14 AM

So my guess is he will give his support to Obama because I know he wants change and that would be his best option for helping implement an economic overhaul. Where the economy, instead of being owned by a few, is fair to everyone.




Do you even know what your talking about?

There isn't a snowballs chance he will support Obama.

There very few things they agree on. And the economy sure as hell isn't one of them.
 wvwaterfall
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 9:39:20 AM

NO , I expect there to be one candidate that I expect would do some good as opposed to less harm.
Call me old fashioned .


Depends on what you compare it to. Although McCain has dropped considerably in my personal view in the past six months, I still maintain that either McCain or Obama will represent a significant improvement over the Bush administration, so in that sense, both will do more good.

Then again, I find it hard to imagine how anyone could do worse. My cat would have made a better president than Bush.

But that's just my take.

Dave
 kabiosile
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 10:09:46 AM


I don't think this is going to be a close election. It surprises me, too, because 6 months ago, I was really worried. Now, not so much. I think McCain/Palin is poised to make this a landslide.

Paul was regarded as a "moon bat", with a following of loonies, who rarely vote for mainstream candidates. If Nader and Barr draw 1/2% of the vote, I'll be amazed.


LOL keep on dreaming. Paul's people will likely back a person like nader or if they choose one I bet they go for obama because at least he is not toting the social conservatives.

As far as Dr. Paul being a moon bat with a following of loonies etc... I think you need to go educate yourself where that moon bat stands before you repeat what others regarded him as.

He stood/stands for the constitution of the nation and followed the lines very well of what the creators of the nation set up. He actually thinks about if a bill is constitutional and if what is proposed is supposed to be a role of government before he votes for it in his current job as congressman.

The constitution is something that many of our leaders who swore to uphold and defend, have been using as toilet paper. We would have a lot less trouble with war profiteering and illegal activity and corporate domination if we had a president or even more people in congress that actually thought about if something was simply constitutional before they vote or allow a bill to pass.

We could also stop the trouble the dollar has been having and stabilize our economy IF we followed what Ron Paul wanted to do with the economy.

Libertarians have their issues that people might get them on but, to say that these people are completely nuts or moon bats is quite disrespectful because you are calling the only people who are actually being true to the oath of office they take these names. They are upholding and defending the constitution and just because a whole host of politicians think it is just pretty nice toilet paper, and like to point to how many times a person will vote no. They are distracting from the fact of why.

You know we are in a sad state of affairs when people in washington make fun of someone for following the constitution and being true to the oath of office they took. It is even sadder when the people of this nation will then vote for the people who take those oaths and then disregard the oath and the constitution.
 kabiosile
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 10:16:01 AM
his announcement was he would not endorse mccain even though mccain was begging.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Ron_Paul_offers_support_to_thirdparty_0910.html
 itechman63
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 10:37:06 AM

I mean we all know Paul is a little out there.


Yeah... just like Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, John Adams, George Washington, and their associates were a little out there.
 kabiosile
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 10:41:50 AM


Yeah... just like Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, John Adams, George Washington, and their associates were a little out there.


Yeah today they would likely all be locked up in Guantanamo as terrorists too.

Sad state of affairs.
 HalftimeDad
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 10:42:06 AM
No, more like Lyndon LaRouche and L Ron Hubbard were a little out there.
 Ahoytheredave
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 2:35:28 PM
The Libertarian philosophy is for limited government. It parts with social conservatives on moral issues. Social conservatives do not feel the people can be trusted to make moral decisions on their own regarding such things as drugs, abortion, etc. Democrats are not that good either with their political correctness and gun control but the biggest difference between Libertarians and Democrats concerns fiscal responsibility. Democrats feel the government knows better how to spend the people's money than they do. That is why all the social programs. When it comes to corporate responsibility, people seem to forget that the perks and privledges and shielding from responsibility corporations get comes from the government charter. Libertarians would hold corporate leaders responsible as they would individuals.

Ron Paul is Libertarian and Republicans give lots of lip service to limited government so Ron Paul gets traction. His purpose was probably to educate Republicans on what Libertarians are. In the mean time, the Libertarian party already has it's candidate so if Ron Paul wants to stay in the public eye, he has to run independant.

Ross Perot was populist, not Libertarian. His fight was against NAFTA being as he and his son have huge investments in off shore software development services in India. Free trade with Canada and Mexico threatened that business although those industries have not taken hold in either.

In my county, there are more Libertarian candidates for office on the ballot than Democrats. The personal responsibility and limited government intrusion ideal is why the area is the fastest growing in the country.
 kabiosile
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 2:38:18 PM


in my county, there are more Libertarian candidates for office on the ballot than Democrats. The personal responsibility and limited government intrusion ideal is why the area is the fastest growing in the country.


Where do you live sir?

I might be looking for a new home soon depending on how things go.
 itechman63
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/10/2008 2:49:08 PM
Syd, RP has written many things Grab some and do some reading. It's this "seems" mentality without knowledge that not only holds this nation back but also takes it farther away from the concept of America while we are enslaved to the self-serving whims of the current 2 parties.
 itechman63
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/11/2008 6:47:36 AM
Syd, you don't get it. That's fine... our nation's leaders are decided by the largest percentage of two halves that don't get anything anyway.
 kabiosile
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/11/2008 9:51:01 AM

So, even if I supported all of Paul's policies, there is too clear a choice between a blatant socialist, like Obama, and a Republican who espouses a more limited government, like McCain, to waste a vote on "making a statement". The number of people who will throw away their votes on a 3rd party is very small, mostly the disaffected, who wouldn't vote otherwise.


The difference between Obama and Mccain, in the socialist regard is they are BOTH a type of socialist. Mccain lies and says he is for small government but, fails to let people know for obvious reasons that he is for corporate welfare and thinks social welfare is evil. So he feels the government tit is only OK for corporations.

Obama does it the way if you are going to have state sponsored socialism (which I am not for since I am a libertarian socialist, I believe only the people should voluntarily socialize and make sure no one falls through the cracks.) anyways obama believes in state sponsored socialism for the poor and middle class. Honestly much better for the country than corporate welfare. Since social welfare is less expensive than corporate welfare but, B the money stays here in the country instead of going to start overseas corporate operations that siphon money and jobs out of the country.

Dont be fooled man both are socialists and both believe in big government they just believe the social programs should be given to different ends of the wealth spectrum.

Mccain believes we should give it all to the corporations and the rich and hope they dont take the jobs over seas and pray it trickles down. Obama says skip the BS that has been proven not to work and wants to give it to the people who are hurting and loosing their jobs, homes and do not have health care.

To me as a libertarian I think obama is less dangerous, on constitutional issues where liberty is regarded. He is not toting social conservatives which are extremely dangerous when it comes to liberty, and he actually has a plan that will end up with less of a deficit.

Mccain will run this country into the ground. I am not pro-taxation but, we have to be realistic. When you go off and get into a two front war and spend billions and trillions you cannot just keep cutting taxes and think you will not bankrupt the nation.

Mccain is a quick vote to end up like a "third world country." Mccain will support further domination by corporate interests and it will lead to the absolute decline of our nation into a model that will resemble china. (who became one of the biggest baddest, meanest capitalist totalitarian nations in the world.) I bet none of you want to move there hehehe.

If mccain and his crew were fiscal conservatives and not social conservatives I think I would change my mind. Since they are fiscal liberals that only wish to play the top down game and social conservatives who want to force their religion down my throat and support things like the patriot act. He can go to hell with his pit bull.


PS one more thing voting a 3rd party is not throwing away your vote. It is called voting for who represents your ideals and where you want to see this country moving to best. That tactic is a played out way that both D and R pander to the other parties. People get all nervous and the movements lose some momentum. Fact is if one of the other parties will represent what you feel is right you should vote with your heart.

 kabiosile
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/11/2008 10:06:00 AM


If RP does run on a 3rd party ticket, or the Libertarian ticket, he will definitely take votes from McCain I believe. As it stands now he will probably already do so, through "write-ins" , etc.


I been to many of paul's events all over the southeast. Few if anyone from his group of people would ever vote for mccain. Most especially since he is 72 years old battling cancer and his VP pick is a social conservative.

Liberty is always threatened by social conservatives. They want theocracy not liberty.
 Optimistic for 2008
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/11/2008 6:40:46 PM
What was the major annoucement??
 kabiosile
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Ron Paul Set for Major Annoucement 9.10.2008
Posted: 9/11/2008 8:02:27 PM


What was the major annoucement??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEw0qKjP7hk&eurl=http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com/news/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygg2uWsKK6w&eurl=http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com/news/

And Here is the major announcement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ7fcbst3VE&eurl=http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com/news/
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