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 eeeo4U
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It's the worst country in the world with the exception of every other one...
 eeeo4U
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Posted: 9/12/2008 3:44:53 PM
I would miss you more than I would Alec Baldwin or Susan Sarandon...
 Ezzee
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Posted: 9/12/2008 4:42:10 PM

So BEST would depend on what you define as best:


This is the best statement in the entire thread.

How does one define best?

Is it some tangible thing we can measure?

is it a subjective feeling?

Is it some combination of the two?

Or is there really no way to define this question?

I think that until we get past this entire concept of "best," we are going to have problems worldwide. And I'm not talking about just the US either.
 flyonthewall!
Joined: 3/31/2008
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Posted: 9/12/2008 6:06:45 PM
Suth'nBoy -- I agree with you except for the KFC part!

And I'd be happy if we could find a country to "adopt" Alec Baldwin and Susan Sarandon. Wasn't Baldwin supposed to move to France 8 years ago? What happened? Guess he also decided the US was the best country in the world to live even if he doesn't agree with everything. Plus he gets to bore us all to death on the Huffington Post.

Have I ever left the country? You betcha, I've been to every continent except for Antartica, so you could say I'm pretty well travelled.

I love to visit, I even spent 6 months on an extended business trip to Italy.

But live? I'd never want to live anywhere but right here in the good old USA.
 howtosurvivechaos.com
Joined: 6/4/2006
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Posted: 9/12/2008 9:02:47 PM
Every country I have been claims to be the best and only free nation on Earth....
Someone's lying. Or, maybe we are all Manchurian Candidates who have been brainwashed. Remember, as a child, every morning in class, having to recite the Pledge of Allegiance?
We were being brainwashed. What other purpose would the Pledge serve. 35 yrs later I can recite it word for word. Is it good? Or, is it bullshit? Should we brainwash our children with patriotism, or let them decided when they are mature enough to make a conscious decision?
 nipoleon
Joined: 12/27/2005
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Posted: 9/12/2008 9:21:25 PM
The question we should be asking isn't, are we the best country.
The real question is, are we as good as we could be ?
And, how hard are we trying ?
 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
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Posted: 9/12/2008 9:28:23 PM
Damn right it's the best country in the world imo. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I mean in what other country can you slam your opposition party and then go have a beer with them at the end of the day and talk about sports???????????

God Bless America!

And for you none religious believers

America Rocks!
 kabiosile
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Posted: 9/12/2008 11:09:19 PM
I grew up with people always telling me that this is the best country in the world etc. I just figured they were 100% correct even though the majority of people who say this all the time have rarely traveled outside of the country. Those who have have often stayed in tourist spots and not lived with or like the common people etc.

Then I got older and traveled like a gypsy. I went all kinds of places with no or little money and saw a great many wonderful nations and their people and realized, there really is no such thing as the best country in the world. They are all wonderful in ways and not so desirable in ways. The one thing I did learn in my travels is that the common man of every country is basically the same. They are all wonderful! It is the governments of all the nations of the world that are messed up and causing troubles.

Every place I have been to has things that are good and bad including the USA. I dont believe there is a such thing as the "best country." There are just people's relative and often times conditioned ideas of what the best might be.

I think it is a thing of extreme nationalism and a conditioned act of strange sort of patriotism to just say it's the best even though many dont have a clue what it is like in other nations. Every nation gets their people to say they are the best. It's like a strange ritual.

Its kind of like the home team phenomenon. To everyone else the team might suck but, to those who it is their home team they will always feel as if their team is the best.

I try not to get too hung up over this kind of thing, it really don't mean much but, then again I don't have a favorite team either hmm.



 Saver1
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Posted: 9/13/2008 3:05:27 AM
American is the best country in the world when it comes to how it treats its own people. I like American spirit that nothing can stop you to achieve your dream. In some countries it is a different story.

Foreign policy – yes it is the worst
 eeeo4U
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Posted: 9/13/2008 9:29:51 AM
Let's see...Korea, Japan, Panama, Honduras, Colombia, Germany, Austria, Italy.Switzerland, France, Egypt, Lebanon, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia, Macedonia, Grenada...and that was just under the "travel to exotic places, meet interesting people and shoot them!" plan...then Ireland and Scotland plus Mexico and the Bahamas as a tourist. I know being a GI does tend to let you see countries at their worst, but a lot of my service was peacetime and I was always grateful for being born an American, glad my Italian and Irish ancestors chose to settle here.
 itechman63
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Posted: 9/13/2008 9:35:25 AM
We can love America and have our opinion the it is the best. Personally I think it might have been once, still might be, but we are way below our potential.

We don't have to typically be A-holes about it though.
 junipermoon
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Posted: 9/13/2008 9:51:17 AM
the u.s. has the grand canyon, the poconos and cape cod. the u.s. produced fred astaire, georgia o'keefe and the blues. the u.s. invented the lobstah pot, corn bread and the mint julep.

yes, we also have to take responsibility for bush, leisure suits and rap music.

but, we have here one damn fine dancin'-in-the-streets-top-hat-crazy-sexy-cool nation.

go ahead and bash individuals. but the nation itself? love it or leave it.
 kabiosile
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Posted: 9/13/2008 2:29:41 PM


I don't see it as though we are better than anybody else. Far from it.

I took the original question as not being about arrogance or narcissism but about pride and patriotism, and although it gets overshadowed quite often by poor choices in leaders, there is a lot of that here. I am indeed very proud to be American.

There is MUCH to be fixed here. We've made some HUGE mistakes politically.
But to assume 'Bush/Cheney = America', is just not accurate.

If there's one primary thing that's wrong with America and our system of government, it is that we don't seem to learn very well from the past.

-Suth'nBoy


I can agree with that.
 The Artful Codger
Joined: 2/29/2008
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Posted: 9/13/2008 2:44:43 PM
According to the United Nations Human Development Index rankings . . . no.
In 2007/2008 it was 12th in a field of 177 countries, and dropping.

According to most of the categories ranked in the Central Intelligence Agency's World Fact Book . . . no.

According to most of rankings in the compilations of confessed statistics nerd Photius Coutsoukis . . . no.

According to the Happy Planet Index, a ranking where each country’s HPI value is a function of its average subjective life satisfaction, life expectancy at birth, and ecological footprint per capita . . . no. In the most recent rankings, it was 150th out of 178 countries.

According to the World Happiness Database, a so-called 'register on scientific research on subjective appreciation of life' . . . no.
It ranked 17th out of 95 countries.

According to some of my American relatives . . . yes and no.

According to me . . . as neighbours go, I've had both better and worse.

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Sources:
http://hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/docs/rankorderguide.html

http://www.photius.com/rankings

http://www.happyplanetindex.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Planet_Index

http://www1.eur.nl/fsw/happiness/hap_nat/nat_fp.htm


 OneBlend
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Posted: 9/13/2008 4:35:07 PM
America will be what you remembered it as and only that.
With the bail outs of Freddie and Fannie, we're headed for a depression - none the likes of which you and I have seen before. So once we come tumbling down, and it looks almost certain, you can rely on your good memories.

Keep voting for globalists who want to share your hard earned money with everyone else. Keep voting for candidates who support bailing out the corporations at your expense (and it will bankrupt us)! Keep voting for candidates who send your hard earned money to fund wars (for who really?). Keep voting for candidates who keep you fearful with shadow terrorism and who are one buy one, attacking the sovereignty of other countries.

THIS IS NOT AMERICA!
 EarlzP
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Posted: 9/13/2008 6:34:02 PM
Unfortunately Bush/Cheney are now being replaced by their clones McCain/Parlin it's really hard to tell the four some apart, if you put them behind a curtain and questioned them you couldn't tell one from from another

How would you define best? What criteria would you use? Honesty? Wealth, Humanity? Education, Health Care, Employment,
 kabiosile
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Posted: 9/13/2008 11:40:25 PM
USA is not the richest nation in 2008



U-S-A! We’re number one! Not really, according to PARADE magazine’s IntelligenceReport. From the August 17 issue:

Despite what the Presidential candidates are saying, America is not the world’s richest nation. If you run the numbers, Switzerland has a higher median household income ($62,000, compared with our $48,000). And, at $44,000, our per capita GDP (the amount of national income generated per citizen) has fallen to third: The tiny nation of Luxembourg leads the way, with $78,000; Norway is second, with $52,000. Last year, the number of millionaires in China, Russia, and India grew faster than in the U.S.

Income inequality also is greater in the U.S. than in other developed nations, and some economists believe that makes us more vulnerable to hitting the skids than the rest of the world. “Low-wealth children are unlikely to become high-wealth adults, while high-wealth children are very likely to become high-wealth adults,” says Dalton Conley of the Center for American Progress, a Washington think tank. “That should sound alarms for policymakers.”
 junipermoon
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Posted: 9/14/2008 6:14:33 PM

Canadians don't have to shout how great we are from the rooftops


why not? canada gave us robert service, margaret atwood, peter jennings, stu elliott and northern dancer. plenty to brag about there!

i do wish canada would shut down the slaughterhouses where so many american horses end up. but other than that, canada seems a pretty awesome place!
 designingwoman
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Posted: 9/14/2008 8:08:49 PM
There's alot of good about the US but we can learn from other countries. Universal health care is something our country sorely needs, for example. Ireland is kicking our collective butts with their universal college education program. Instead of wasting money on dumb wars like the war in Iraq, we could have spent the money educating Americans to make our country stronger, and making our people healthier. Progressive values need to be restored to bring America to her fullest glory!

Voting for Obama and Biden will give us the potential to be THE best because we were smart enough to vote in the BEST to fix up the mess that Bush created, bringing America down from what it could be. Optimism and hope for a better future has me ready to vote for Obama and Biden in November so that we can restore the many things that have made America great.
 dragonpat
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Posted: 9/16/2008 12:15:56 AM
Is America the Best country in the world? First off like many have said this is an opinion, and like the people of many countries in the world Americans are proud of their nation and have many many reasons to be proud.
Is there really a way to measure best? nope. So we are in opinion land.
I love this nation, I have been to many other nations that i like a whole lot, respect and even a few I love. But this nation will always be my home.
As for the comment on Canada having all that america has to offer plus health care ect. Nope we still have a few things Canada doesnt have, but they may not want them any more than i want national health care.
Finally i want to say it is sad that once again some of the democrat mouth pieces here had to turn this into a bash bush and the republican post.
 427cammer
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Posted: 9/16/2008 1:12:22 AM
It is somewhat amusing (but mostly just sad) to see how quick some people are so quick to say that educated is the same as intelligent. From looking at profiles it is often the posters who are purporting themselves as educated that are the most guilty of bashing and finger pointing.

And most often any message they are trying to convey is completely lost because of the snotty elitism dripping from every word. It is no wonder the republicans would be trying to portray these people as unlikeable... THEY ARE.
 427cammer
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Posted: 9/16/2008 1:42:01 AM
I don't like pandering eiher, in most cases I'm pretty good at recognizing it so it really doesn't work on me. Maybe on others, who knows?

I have known a few educated, intelligent people who you can sit and have a beer with. Very often I disagree with them, but I try hard to listen when they speak. The quickest way to stop me from listening would be to tell me that because I'm poor and uneducated I must drink a flat of beer every night. I wonder if Americans even know what a flat is?
 tallskier
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Posted: 9/16/2008 2:19:08 PM

Q. If america is 'the best' then why does the rest of the world despise it so much?


Where is the evidence that the rest of the world despises America so?
 Clandestiny
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Posted: 9/16/2008 3:06:11 PM
I can say this much. America has her flaws; what nation doesn't? And maybe it is true that America isn't the greatest country in the world. But being an American is the greatest feeling in the world.

If I were not an American, i'd want to become one in a big hurry.
 zabet
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Posted: 9/16/2008 4:56:50 PM
We keep saying America as if the United States of America is the only country on this rather large continent known as America. What's up with that?
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