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 Yappy lil Pine Needle
Joined: 4/28/2007
Msg: 2
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thats crazy that our goverment can save a stupid tree for $200,000 but cant send 200,000 to bring a humanitarian from kamloops who was doing mission work at orphanges, who was attacked in cambodia, robbed and left to die in a ditch, and bring him home where he could get medical attention that may of saved his life....infact they couldnt even send enough money to fly him to a decent hospital a short way away....They are as guilty as the murdering sons of B*%^%^*) Yeah save the stupid tree
 SoLongThanksForAllTheFish
Joined: 6/14/2007
Msg: 3
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Posted: 1/20/2009 8:14:06 AM

I think the "squirrels" that live in the hollow tree have lost their nuts.


I agree. This is crazy. Sure it's a landmark, but tradition isn't all-important... let the tree die already!
 mrchicken
Joined: 5/16/2008
Msg: 4
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Posted: 1/20/2009 8:15:48 AM
I'm not really a tree hugger, but I'm for saving the tree. If you grew-up in the vancouver area how can you not love that old stump.

As for money we could bulldoze Stanley Park and crunch-up another wac of highrise towers, that might generate a few bucks after the economy recovers, if cash is the only consern. $200 000. 00, spend the money, our local economy can use the cash injection, a few people will have a job for awhile, and we will all have been made to feel a little better saving that old stump.

They can tear the the damn thing down after I'm gone.

Remember how and why the seawall around Stanley Park was built? I don't think the seawall was such a bad idea.
 mrchicken
Joined: 5/16/2008
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Posted: 1/20/2009 9:54:17 AM
Building the sea wall was a makework project during the depression.
For heaven's sake, two hundred thousand dollars is less than the cost of a house.

THE TREE
 4x4+geek
Joined: 4/7/2007
Msg: 10
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Posted: 1/20/2009 10:12:49 AM
To me, it's an idiotic waste of money but, because its probably just coming out of some yuppie mocha-chino funds, I'll imagine that it's being spent more wisely this way.
 SoLongThanksForAllTheFish
Joined: 6/14/2007
Msg: 11
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Posted: 1/20/2009 11:15:14 AM
Let the people who want to save it raise the money themselves. If it doesn't come out of taxes, I'll be fine with saving it...
 flyerec1216
Joined: 11/4/2008
Msg: 12
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Posted: 1/20/2009 11:52:21 AM
The tree is dead. It died along time ago. The attempts to bring it back as some landmark really seems downright dumb to me. If you have people visiting from another country and you going to take them to see the "stump"?
 IncognitoGuido
Joined: 10/19/2007
Msg: 14
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Posted: 1/20/2009 11:56:18 AM
Come on people... Private funds are paying for it. End of discussion.
It's part of the citys history.
 Ticketoride
Joined: 6/3/2004
Msg: 17
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Posted: 1/20/2009 1:57:26 PM
I doubt the City/Province would have have coughed up 200 Grand to save a Tree, but since most of the Costs ride on the Backs of private Donations primarily, then I have no Issue with that.

If some Society wants to blow privately raised Funds to paint the Sky Green, I couldn't care less.
 mrchicken
Joined: 5/16/2008
Msg: 18
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Posted: 1/20/2009 4:02:02 PM
It is not wasted monies, jobs are created and the cash is injected in the local economy.

This was the same thinking used to build the seawall around Stanley Park.

the stump
 Neil29
Joined: 9/20/2008
Msg: 20
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Posted: 1/20/2009 4:14:51 PM
The only thing constant is change. Living things die. Let it die in peace already. This mentality of saving the tree can be applied to prolonging the "life" of an elder in the hospital, even when they are ready and willing to go.
Im a tree hugger, and sure this tree is part of the city's history. If the tree hugger really respected the tree, then they would let it fulfill its purpose by decomposing and nourishing the ground beneath it. If they want to remember history, take a picture, make a plaque.
 Xavery
Joined: 4/22/2007
Msg: 22
Saving Hollow Tree is Relatively Economical
Posted: 1/20/2009 6:39:02 PM
The hollow tree is an interesting thing for tourists to see when they visit Stanley Park. It seems to me that when nearly a billion dollars is being spent on some Athletes' Village in False Creek, 200 ooo dollars is small potatoes. I wouldn't get my knickers in a knot over saving the hollow tree - OP. It will take a lot more than 200 000 to feed all the poverty striken children in Vancouver for any length of time.
 Merrylass
Joined: 12/30/2007
Msg: 23
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Posted: 1/20/2009 6:52:16 PM
It is pushing up the daisies. It's pining for the fjords. It's passed on! It is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet its maker! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! Its metabolic processes are now History!
It's kicked the bucket, it's shuffled off it's mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!

It is an ex-tree.

Perhaps the 200K could have been spent on creating some sort of lasting work of art. After all, it's still a tree, is still wood - can still be hit by lightning or, worse, burn - and then it's $200K down the tubes.
 Xavery
Joined: 4/22/2007
Msg: 24
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Posted: 1/20/2009 7:04:20 PM
The tree is nature's art and shows beauty in death. I think if it does burn down it will because a homeless person takes shelter in it not because of lightning. Still, the point about it being fire hazard is something that is worth considering. Still, no one should get their gonchies in a knot.

We have so many bigger fish to fry in Metro Vancouver. I suppose many of you have guessed that I find the money being spent on the Olympic Village obscene. Perhaps, we could have some athletes stay in the hollow tree.
 WesternWildRose
Joined: 9/15/2008
Msg: 25
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Posted: 1/21/2009 12:55:16 AM
I hope to hell they don't expect a tax receipt for their donations to save the rotting hull.

Sentimental value aside....the Hollow Tree was an oddity...a tourist attraction at one point... let it rest. It's time is over...it had a good run.

Spend your money on the future...help others in need...stop living in the past of childhood memories I say.

I took swim lessons at the old Lumberman's Arch pool back in the day when the water source was from Burrard Inlet. It was a grand old pool... just like the one at Second Beach, also water from English Bay then.
The Park has changed a lot... no more Zoo... pay parking yuck!...times change.

Times have changed....nature happens...trees dies...fall down and decay.

Save a child... help a homeless person... have happy memories of the tree and move on.
 FunnyAndSweet48
Joined: 8/21/2007
Msg: 26
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Posted: 1/21/2009 2:04:04 AM
I don't recall the "hollow tree" in question, but if it's truly dead, then I would wish it a R.I.P. If it's truly hollow all the way, I think it would make a fabulous addition to a large childrens' playground. The kids could crawl in one end & scamper all the way through & out the other end. This way it's still preserved & enjoyed but probably at a much lower cost. I'm a tree hugger & when hiking I always bless the trees & pray for the sick ones ... & when hiking alone I also talk to the birdies & the squirrels.
 mrchicken
Joined: 5/16/2008
Msg: 27
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Posted: 1/21/2009 6:27:05 AM
The stump can benifit the homeless and has done so on many occasion for years.

In all seriousness I have observed many homeless people sleeping inside the stump. In my younger years the little parking lot there was a convienient and secluded location to park the car<img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0>

<img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0> The Hollow Stump <img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0>

Hey, like maybe we should collect more donations and have a "SAVE THE STUMP " song writing contest or something, like for all the artists types eh.
 4x4+geek
Joined: 4/7/2007
Msg: 28
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Posted: 1/21/2009 11:29:27 AM
^^^ cwolfy6669

Creative, and funny!
 WesternWildRose
Joined: 9/15/2008
Msg: 29
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Posted: 1/21/2009 6:30:23 PM
cwolfy...there isn't a lot of stump left to cut up for firewood.
not a lot of hollowness and shelter left for a homeless person or the odd camper or tourista to camp inside... just a lot of decaying wood.

the elements have taken its toll on the stump that remains.... perhaps time to venture into the woods and find another tree .. ..who knows...might be another mighty giant about.
 Anna.Molly
Joined: 9/18/2008
Msg: 30
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Posted: 1/22/2009 1:51:10 AM
Save the tree


It's easier to save a tree, than to pick a solitary person, out of many, to help.

How do you go through the list of people in need of medical or financial attention, and pick out who's more deserving then the rest, and say "Hey, this ONE person should get our support, and we'll just..erm.. let the rest wait it out"

?

I love that old tree, anyways.
 Anna.Molly
Joined: 9/18/2008
Msg: 31
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Posted: 1/22/2009 1:53:53 AM
I realize that sounds cold.....

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 4x4+geek
Joined: 4/7/2007
Msg: 33
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Posted: 1/22/2009 11:45:41 AM
Could this be an indication of our society’s conditioning to reject the inevitabilities of aging and death? Could it be a sign of the depth of our general fear: that we are so resistant to change that we’d rather preserve a rotten stump than rejoice in it’s nourishment of new life?
 mrchicken
Joined: 5/16/2008
Msg: 35
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Posted: 1/27/2009 4:52:46 PM
Oh, yeah. $200 000 devided by 4 homeless people equals $50 ooo per homeless person.

How is it you figure it costs $50 ooo to take a homeless person off the street?
 Yappy lil Pine Needle
Joined: 4/28/2007
Msg: 36
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Posted: 1/28/2009 12:23:25 PM
better question: how does anyone figure a homeless person is worth less than a dead tree? Take a pic of the damn thing and display it at the site...
 mrchicken
Joined: 5/16/2008
Msg: 38
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Posted: 2/21/2009 10:41:45 AM
I'm up here in Penticton, but have a soft spot for that old stump, has anybody heard the latest.

What is to become of the Hollow stump?
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