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 haywiresue
Joined: 9/27/2006
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It appears that the Bomber thread has been done away with and possibly some poster are away at summer "Banned Camp"

CLF Football is a great topic for conversation and it can be a passionate topic, but we all should remember how to play nice in the sand box.

Friday's CFL Football lineup was very interesting. I was amazed that Toronto did not get any points against Ottawa, and that goose egg seems to go with the loosing streak of Toronto's hockey team. I really felt bad for Toronto as the Argos just took control and the number of QB sacks left me speechless.

The Saskatchewan/BC game was better as each side were scoring points. I absolutely loved that fumble, kick, kick, scramble and finally TD play that was executed. Still, I am amazed at the number of QB sacks in that game.

It will be interesting to see todays games and what the Bombers do.
 Fort Garry Dark
Joined: 11/25/2005
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Posted: 8/8/2009 1:33:00 PM
It seems to me that the defenses are winning a lot of the games.

I hope I'm still awake to catch tonight's game.
 OhNoItsDano
Joined: 11/3/2008
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Posted: 8/8/2009 4:02:10 PM
Yeah it's gonna be a late one tonight...If Bishop has worked on re-conditioning himself and not get gassed out by the first half, I think they'll do great...that's assuming the defense and special teams keep up their excellent work.
 Santek
Joined: 4/21/2009
Msg: 4
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Posted: 8/8/2009 8:07:52 PM
They had Calgary on their on 4 yard line with a 2nd and 22 and Calgary gets a touchdown. Me thinks that the Bombers defense was reading their own press.
 TooShadows
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Posted: 8/9/2009 6:11:06 AM
I gave up listening to the game at the end of the 1st half and went to bed. Apparently the Bombers made a fight of it in the 2nd half so maybe I should have stayed. There's obviously a lot of work that needs to be done by the whole team. Even our much vaunted defence was a little lacking last night,although it could have been exhaustion.
 Fort Garry Dark
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Posted: 8/9/2009 7:00:54 AM
They looked pretty good in the second half. Maybe leb/can has an idea.

Actually I don't like to see any athlete having a concussion. I hope Bishop doesn't have any long term problems from knocking himself out.
 OhNoItsDano
Joined: 11/3/2008
Msg: 7
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Posted: 8/9/2009 7:51:50 AM
Yeah did he ever get rocked! I too almost turned off the game, but glad I didn't as I got to see the offense actually play well and someone finally turned the defense's switch on. The offense finally started mixing things up between the run and pass.
 haywiresue
Joined: 9/27/2006
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Posted: 8/10/2009 4:22:17 PM
I absolutely enjoyed Saturday's game between Edmonton and Hamilton. What a Game!

That was the best game I have watched this season. The teams were right at each other and the plays creative. It was a game that you just had to watch and was exciting right down to the last play of the 4th quarter. Even the rain did not dampen the desire of each team to try and win. I only hope the Grey Cup Final is this exciting.

Watching the Bombers play after that was kind of a let down, but they are dealing with issues bringing in a new QB and getting him comfortable with a new team. This may not be the Bombers year, not that I am discounting them, as they could turn things around and get the momentum going to pull things together. They did put some points on the scoreboard, so it was not that bad. However, if its not this year, then next year the players, coaches and management will be under the microscope and taking blame for not doing well.
 haywiresue
Joined: 9/27/2006
Msg: 9
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Posted: 8/10/2009 6:32:40 PM
Bishop and the receivers did have some difficulty in the last game. However they are still getting to know one another and it can be hard to predict the speed of a receiver if you are not familiar with their playing style and running ability under pressure. Bishop has a good arm and it would be easy to blame him, but it is a team sport and everyone has a part and no two plays are the same as coverage and openings change.

When Bishop had his bell rung by that onetackle, his playing style changed and he was better. So, I am not ready to give up on the Bombers or diss Kelly yet as I think they will pick up the pace, create more opportunities, and play some really good ball.

Go Bombers
 OhNoItsDano
Joined: 11/3/2008
Msg: 10
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Posted: 8/11/2009 2:55:26 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ugh...not this drivel again! Let the guy coach some f&*#ing football. Look at Serna...he's been pretty awesome this year...last year, not so much. Seems to be doing quite well under Kelly's clock.

Trevor who??
 haywiresue
Joined: 9/27/2006
Msg: 11
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Posted: 8/14/2009 2:23:29 PM
Thursdays game Calgary at Edmonton was a real nail biter. What an exciting game! I wasn't cheering for any one team, I kept hoping each team would make their attempts for the opposite end zone.

I was impressed with Edmonton's QB Ricky Ray and his touchdown. Some of the plays were really impressive and exciting to watch.

Calgary played well and I liked how they modified their play to move and protect the pocket for their QB. He took a few good hits. I sat there wondering what happened to the D life for some of those sacks.

I enjoy games where the scoring continues to the last few minutes of the game....and any game where a TD is scored with seconds on the clock, is definitely worth the admission. That is 2 games, I believed were worth watching so far this year. Maybe the Bombers will be the third.
 haywiresue
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Posted: 8/15/2009 10:13:58 AM
The BC at Toronto game yesterday was like an Agatha Christie mystery. BC was behind till the 4th quarter and then kind of came alive. It was exciting watching that BC interception and last touchdown as the clock ran out. It's too bad they were not as dominant earlier in the game. I was kind of impressed with the way the BC receivers would wave at the QB when they were able to catch a pass. Maybe the bombers could use that till Bishop gets better acquainted with our receivers.

Now talk about field goals, Toronto would have been in big trouble on the scoreboard withoug all those points. Not as pretty of a game, but it was nice watching the kicker challenge some records, he will be interesting to follow.

Bombers today, well I hope they have ironed out some of their problems and can keep it together in the rain. It will be interesting to see if Bishop is more comfortable with more of the receiving line, so he can execute more diverse plays.

Go Bombers...........
 TooShadows
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Posted: 8/15/2009 6:00:19 PM
Well,barely into the 2nd quarter and Montreal's leading 24-6. Unless Winnipeg really turns things around this will be another game where I only listen to the 1st half.
 Santek
Joined: 4/21/2009
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Posted: 8/15/2009 6:12:58 PM
Big breakdowns on all sides of the ball. Again they came out and crapped the bed :(
 haywiresue
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Posted: 8/15/2009 9:49:17 PM
This evenings Montreal at Winnipeg was certainly a disappointment for Bomber fans. As professionals, the Bombers were a disgrace as a team, and it reflects the entire Bomber organization.

The starting QB should not go onto the field in a confused state, or be confused on what plays to execute. Definitely there is a communication breakdown there. That should have never taken place. It's the 7th week of games and Bishop should have his game on, instead of adding to his stats of being a hot/cold player. I'm beginning to wonder "What in hell the scouts and Kelly thinking about picking Bishop to play?" Its time Bishop began to lead the team, or begin to think about where he will be playing next year.

What was going on with all the Bomber fumbles?????

Coach Kelly........please remind your team that they are to start performing at the opening kick off........................not wait till the 3rd or 4th quarter to begin to get it together and start making plays.

The way they played, is deserving of last place in the league, and if the new organization expects "bums in the seats" or season ticket sales to increase to fill the new stadium........somebody needs to light a fire under the team and make them worthy for people to spend money to watch them play. I'm thinking one will see better ball watching the Bison play and local High School Football.
 OmbreRose2
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 16
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Posted: 8/16/2009 9:47:38 AM
My partner is a die hard Bomber fan and I am not. As a matter of fact I find most sports are played in bad sportsman mentality. What that means if the players no matter what the game is played the game as a game and stop the constant fist fighting it would draw more people in. That is the big turn off for me second that to the greedy sums they demand not get but Demand.

The Bombers constantly fumble along in their games. Yes they do have some wins but wonder if they are true reflections of their abilities. Are the other teams allowing them to win to draw the Bombers into a false security? Just so they can learn the strength and weakness early in the year and then beat the crap outta them before play off. Oh yea they have made it to the play off wonder how because they sure choke up once in them.

I am sure you die hards will tell me when they last won the Grey Cup.....

Nope not a Bomber Fan however would like to see them improve and win a few more for my partner sake.
 OhNoItsDano
Joined: 11/3/2008
Msg: 17
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Posted: 8/16/2009 11:37:58 AM
We haven't seen what they can do for an entire game yet! We got killed on turnovers...waaaayyyy too many fumbles and dropped passes. New receivers on the horizon? I'd almost bet that's a given!

On CJOB's post-game show, Kelly was taking the blame for this loss again, but sorry I'm not buying that one. PLAYERS have to execute what the coaches call out and they didn't do that, plain and simple. That O-line doesn't need a bandaid for that gash...it needs surgery! LOL
 TooShadows
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Posted: 8/16/2009 12:30:20 PM
Yeah,and the defence sure took a powder around the end of the 1st quarter,when Calvillo scored 3 touchdowns on 3 passes in a row. Dano's right:it's hard for the best coaches when the players just aren't executing as they're supposed to be.
 LucOberdere
Joined: 3/12/2008
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Posted: 8/16/2009 12:45:04 PM
Wow. That was bad !

Hate to sound like someone else (*grin) but Dunwoody, or Dunwitty sure woudl look good just about now...

At least our kicker is doing well.

 OmbreRose2
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 20
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Posted: 8/17/2009 7:33:45 AM
Sorry to burst your balloon Dakota but the coaches only coach it really is up to the players to play out the game. If they are not cutting it it does not matter how good the coach is.

Besides it is not unheard of as I am sure you sportster are aware of ... the players have been known to throw games to get rid of coaches or leaders. My partner has a theory but it all boils down to poor playing.

And Dakota the Bombers have not been cutting it for years when was the last time they won a grey cup?

Someone does not like the new coach all of a sudden. Wonder why? Someone on the team must have got their pee pee slapped.
 haywiresue
Joined: 9/27/2006
Msg: 21
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:16:10 AM
Dakota Truck Country - you mention Kelly's hacking of a decent Bomber team - well you are wrong. Kelly began coaching a team that was built around Milt Stiegel and he no longer playing. Kevin Glenn was a hot/cold unreliable QB and this is verified by his terrible performance yesterday in the Saskatchewan/Hamilton game. I'm glad he is in Hamilton. Kelly has some serious rebuilding to do, with a lot of new players, including Bishop as the QB. My last post addressed that. We all know you have a "hate on" for Kelly, so you dont need to continue to point it out. Personally I'm still giving Kelly a chance, because I know from being a coach, how difficult changes can be in an organization.

Last nights game Saskatchewan/Hamilton was interesting and I was happy to see that Glenn is still an unreliable QB when the going gets tough. Releasing him from Wpg was a good thing. I was surpised how the dominance changed and Saskatchewan owned the first half and then the Ti-Cats came back in second half. Unfortunately Glenn let the team down and Saskatchewan won the game.

Its ok for Kelly to take the blame for the Wpg loss, but its a team thing and he needs to work out the confusion problems with Bishop and the entire team needs to perform starting at the opening kick off and not wait till the second half to begin to play.
 OhNoItsDano
Joined: 11/3/2008
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Posted: 8/17/2009 10:57:57 AM
How soon some forget last year's DISMAL effort up to the half way point...and they even had Milt back then!
 haywiresue
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Posted: 8/17/2009 4:35:16 PM
DakotaTruckCountry, you keep talking about Kelly dismantling the Bomber team - where were you last year when they were loosing - what team? What are you smoking out there in BC?

Its not Kelly's fault that Dinwitty was not properly groomed, or given the experience he so badly needed. When it came to the stats Dinwitty was not performing on paper - end of story, he was gone. Kelly may not of had the desire or time to groom Dinwitty and that was his choice. Who knows the decision to get rid of Dinwitty may have come from higher up in the organizations.

What Kelly was saying about what he was going to do, might have been what he was told to say/do by the organization. One person can only do so much, and I believe that Kelly has been trying. He has admitted that he has made some mistakes, its not like he is the only coach to make mistakes. Who knows there may have been others in the organization who tried to get the head coach job and were unsuccessful - could this be pay back?

The Bombers Kelly got control of as head coach, was not in good shape. The QB was allowed to be hot/cold and the previous coach would not groom or play Dinwitty. The receivers were not catching when Glenn was on and many of the plays relied heavily on Steigel. The mistake made last year was that winning a game was left up to the defence and the kicker. Its an entire process made up of the different units or special teams - once the entire team gets motivated at the start of the game, and plays to their potential, then and only then, will we see more wins than losses.
 TooShadows
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Posted: 8/18/2009 6:45:21 AM
I imagine this thread is going to be deleted too because of the long winded rants that don't really say anything new,but just keep repeating the same old thing over and over.

So the Bombers had a decent team last year? What was their record after the 1st 6 games? Think it was 0 and 6,if I remember right. Sure the Bombers made the playoffs,but the crossover system only means that the worst team in one conference is slightly better than the worst team in the other conference.

Did anybody catch the interview with Jeff Reinbold on CJOB Monday morning? He's coaching as an assistant in Texas now. He's never been a head coach since leaving Winnipeg. What I found interesting is that he said when he came to Winnipeg he felt he could turn the team into winners by "sheer force of personality". I wonder if Mike Kelly had some of the same ideas,maybe that by being a nice guy the players would respond more favorably and try harder to win games for him. Of course that seemed to win for Mike Riley.
 haywiresue
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Msg: 25
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Posted: 8/18/2009 9:11:06 AM
One up - I totally agree with you. I also believe that Bauer is a wannabe coach and uses his position to manipulate the coach. I have said for years that its not the talent, its the front office that is creating a bad environment for the team to work properly.

Bishop has a good arm, but is having some communication and confusion problems. It would be interesting to see what Kelly plans to fix his problems. He also was not at training camp and that puts him behind, I think some people are forgetting that, but its not an excuse if he is unsure of what play to execute.

There would not be any QB sacks if the line did its job. I find that when the Bombers are not having a good game, they loose their steam and just keep doing what does not work, instead of using strategy to change their game. They also need to start playing at the opening kick off, instead of just watching and let the other team be the Alpha Male on the field, and then trying new things in the second half.

Tempt - it does not matter how many yards a receiver gets if the team is loosing or is fighting hard to be the worst in the league.

Dakota - its not fair to pick out token people to blame when its the entire team who consistantly looses. I think its great that you are a Bomber supporter, but you always seem to blame the coach and the QB, when its the entire team. How can a QB throw a completion if the line does not hold the other team back?

A coach has limits to what they can do, when the important decisions are being called from the front office and are not what he had planned to happen? I think its funny how so many other teams in the league have head coaches that are able to stay and build a good team, while the Bombers just keep changing head coaches. Its funny that other coaches have been able to get the job done, with other teams after they left Winnipeg. My thoughts are that its more about the crappy organization and Bauer than the coaches. I don't think it matter who they get as head coach, the results will be the same because nothing seems to fit properly and having players like Milt Stiegel still won't produce winning results. So, by method of deduction, I believe the problem is the organization and Bauer. I would almost like the Bombers to give him an opportunity to be head coach and then can his a$$, and do what is best for the organization.

What is with you always bringing up the old retired players/coaches. I'm sure you dissed them when they were playing, but now it appears that because they are retired or moved to other teams, they have become icons to you. They were here, now they are gone and I'm sure none of them would come back if they had the chance. Its nice to remember them but they have absolutely no significance in the problems the Bombers are facing this year.
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