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 haywiresue
Joined: 9/27/2006
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It appears that the Bomber thread has been done away with and possibly some poster are away at summer "Banned Camp"

CLF Football is a great topic for conversation and it can be a passionate topic, but we all should remember how to play nice in the sand box.

Friday's CFL Football lineup was very interesting. I was amazed that Toronto did not get any points against Ottawa, and that goose egg seems to go with the loosing streak of Toronto's hockey team. I really felt bad for Toronto as the Argos just took control and the number of QB sacks left me speechless.

The Saskatchewan/BC game was better as each side were scoring points. I absolutely loved that fumble, kick, kick, scramble and finally TD play that was executed. Still, I am amazed at the number of QB sacks in that game.

It will be interesting to see todays games and what the Bombers do.
 Fort Garry Dark
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Posted: 8/8/2009 1:33:00 PM
It seems to me that the defenses are winning a lot of the games.

I hope I'm still awake to catch tonight's game.
 TooShadows
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Posted: 8/9/2009 6:11:06 AM
I gave up listening to the game at the end of the 1st half and went to bed. Apparently the Bombers made a fight of it in the 2nd half so maybe I should have stayed. There's obviously a lot of work that needs to be done by the whole team. Even our much vaunted defence was a little lacking last night,although it could have been exhaustion.
 Fort Garry Dark
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Posted: 8/9/2009 7:00:54 AM
They looked pretty good in the second half. Maybe leb/can has an idea.

Actually I don't like to see any athlete having a concussion. I hope Bishop doesn't have any long term problems from knocking himself out.
 haywiresue
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Posted: 8/10/2009 4:22:17 PM
I absolutely enjoyed Saturday's game between Edmonton and Hamilton. What a Game!

That was the best game I have watched this season. The teams were right at each other and the plays creative. It was a game that you just had to watch and was exciting right down to the last play of the 4th quarter. Even the rain did not dampen the desire of each team to try and win. I only hope the Grey Cup Final is this exciting.

Watching the Bombers play after that was kind of a let down, but they are dealing with issues bringing in a new QB and getting him comfortable with a new team. This may not be the Bombers year, not that I am discounting them, as they could turn things around and get the momentum going to pull things together. They did put some points on the scoreboard, so it was not that bad. However, if its not this year, then next year the players, coaches and management will be under the microscope and taking blame for not doing well.
 haywiresue
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Posted: 8/10/2009 6:32:40 PM
Bishop and the receivers did have some difficulty in the last game. However they are still getting to know one another and it can be hard to predict the speed of a receiver if you are not familiar with their playing style and running ability under pressure. Bishop has a good arm and it would be easy to blame him, but it is a team sport and everyone has a part and no two plays are the same as coverage and openings change.

When Bishop had his bell rung by that onetackle, his playing style changed and he was better. So, I am not ready to give up on the Bombers or diss Kelly yet as I think they will pick up the pace, create more opportunities, and play some really good ball.

Go Bombers
 haywiresue
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Msg: 7
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Posted: 8/14/2009 2:23:29 PM
Thursdays game Calgary at Edmonton was a real nail biter. What an exciting game! I wasn't cheering for any one team, I kept hoping each team would make their attempts for the opposite end zone.

I was impressed with Edmonton's QB Ricky Ray and his touchdown. Some of the plays were really impressive and exciting to watch.

Calgary played well and I liked how they modified their play to move and protect the pocket for their QB. He took a few good hits. I sat there wondering what happened to the D life for some of those sacks.

I enjoy games where the scoring continues to the last few minutes of the game....and any game where a TD is scored with seconds on the clock, is definitely worth the admission. That is 2 games, I believed were worth watching so far this year. Maybe the Bombers will be the third.
 haywiresue
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Posted: 8/15/2009 10:13:58 AM
The BC at Toronto game yesterday was like an Agatha Christie mystery. BC was behind till the 4th quarter and then kind of came alive. It was exciting watching that BC interception and last touchdown as the clock ran out. It's too bad they were not as dominant earlier in the game. I was kind of impressed with the way the BC receivers would wave at the QB when they were able to catch a pass. Maybe the bombers could use that till Bishop gets better acquainted with our receivers.

Now talk about field goals, Toronto would have been in big trouble on the scoreboard withoug all those points. Not as pretty of a game, but it was nice watching the kicker challenge some records, he will be interesting to follow.

Bombers today, well I hope they have ironed out some of their problems and can keep it together in the rain. It will be interesting to see if Bishop is more comfortable with more of the receiving line, so he can execute more diverse plays.

Go Bombers...........
 TooShadows
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Posted: 8/15/2009 6:00:19 PM
Well,barely into the 2nd quarter and Montreal's leading 24-6. Unless Winnipeg really turns things around this will be another game where I only listen to the 1st half.
 haywiresue
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Posted: 8/15/2009 9:49:17 PM
This evenings Montreal at Winnipeg was certainly a disappointment for Bomber fans. As professionals, the Bombers were a disgrace as a team, and it reflects the entire Bomber organization.

The starting QB should not go onto the field in a confused state, or be confused on what plays to execute. Definitely there is a communication breakdown there. That should have never taken place. It's the 7th week of games and Bishop should have his game on, instead of adding to his stats of being a hot/cold player. I'm beginning to wonder "What in hell the scouts and Kelly thinking about picking Bishop to play?" Its time Bishop began to lead the team, or begin to think about where he will be playing next year.

What was going on with all the Bomber fumbles?????

Coach Kelly........please remind your team that they are to start performing at the opening kick off........................not wait till the 3rd or 4th quarter to begin to get it together and start making plays.

The way they played, is deserving of last place in the league, and if the new organization expects "bums in the seats" or season ticket sales to increase to fill the new stadium........somebody needs to light a fire under the team and make them worthy for people to spend money to watch them play. I'm thinking one will see better ball watching the Bison play and local High School Football.
 TooShadows
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Posted: 8/16/2009 12:30:20 PM
Yeah,and the defence sure took a powder around the end of the 1st quarter,when Calvillo scored 3 touchdowns on 3 passes in a row. Dano's right:it's hard for the best coaches when the players just aren't executing as they're supposed to be.
 LucOberdere
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Posted: 8/16/2009 12:45:04 PM
Wow. That was bad !

Hate to sound like someone else (*grin) but Dunwoody, or Dunwitty sure woudl look good just about now...

At least our kicker is doing well.

 haywiresue
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Posted: 8/17/2009 9:16:10 AM
Dakota Truck Country - you mention Kelly's hacking of a decent Bomber team - well you are wrong. Kelly began coaching a team that was built around Milt Stiegel and he no longer playing. Kevin Glenn was a hot/cold unreliable QB and this is verified by his terrible performance yesterday in the Saskatchewan/Hamilton game. I'm glad he is in Hamilton. Kelly has some serious rebuilding to do, with a lot of new players, including Bishop as the QB. My last post addressed that. We all know you have a "hate on" for Kelly, so you dont need to continue to point it out. Personally I'm still giving Kelly a chance, because I know from being a coach, how difficult changes can be in an organization.

Last nights game Saskatchewan/Hamilton was interesting and I was happy to see that Glenn is still an unreliable QB when the going gets tough. Releasing him from Wpg was a good thing. I was surpised how the dominance changed and Saskatchewan owned the first half and then the Ti-Cats came back in second half. Unfortunately Glenn let the team down and Saskatchewan won the game.

Its ok for Kelly to take the blame for the Wpg loss, but its a team thing and he needs to work out the confusion problems with Bishop and the entire team needs to perform starting at the opening kick off and not wait till the second half to begin to play.
 haywiresue
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Msg: 14
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Posted: 8/17/2009 4:35:16 PM
DakotaTruckCountry, you keep talking about Kelly dismantling the Bomber team - where were you last year when they were loosing - what team? What are you smoking out there in BC?

Its not Kelly's fault that Dinwitty was not properly groomed, or given the experience he so badly needed. When it came to the stats Dinwitty was not performing on paper - end of story, he was gone. Kelly may not of had the desire or time to groom Dinwitty and that was his choice. Who knows the decision to get rid of Dinwitty may have come from higher up in the organizations.

What Kelly was saying about what he was going to do, might have been what he was told to say/do by the organization. One person can only do so much, and I believe that Kelly has been trying. He has admitted that he has made some mistakes, its not like he is the only coach to make mistakes. Who knows there may have been others in the organization who tried to get the head coach job and were unsuccessful - could this be pay back?

The Bombers Kelly got control of as head coach, was not in good shape. The QB was allowed to be hot/cold and the previous coach would not groom or play Dinwitty. The receivers were not catching when Glenn was on and many of the plays relied heavily on Steigel. The mistake made last year was that winning a game was left up to the defence and the kicker. Its an entire process made up of the different units or special teams - once the entire team gets motivated at the start of the game, and plays to their potential, then and only then, will we see more wins than losses.
 TooShadows
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Posted: 8/18/2009 6:45:21 AM
I imagine this thread is going to be deleted too because of the long winded rants that don't really say anything new,but just keep repeating the same old thing over and over.

So the Bombers had a decent team last year? What was their record after the 1st 6 games? Think it was 0 and 6,if I remember right. Sure the Bombers made the playoffs,but the crossover system only means that the worst team in one conference is slightly better than the worst team in the other conference.

Did anybody catch the interview with Jeff Reinbold on CJOB Monday morning? He's coaching as an assistant in Texas now. He's never been a head coach since leaving Winnipeg. What I found interesting is that he said when he came to Winnipeg he felt he could turn the team into winners by "sheer force of personality". I wonder if Mike Kelly had some of the same ideas,maybe that by being a nice guy the players would respond more favorably and try harder to win games for him. Of course that seemed to win for Mike Riley.
 haywiresue
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Msg: 16
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Posted: 8/18/2009 9:11:06 AM
One up - I totally agree with you. I also believe that Bauer is a wannabe coach and uses his position to manipulate the coach. I have said for years that its not the talent, its the front office that is creating a bad environment for the team to work properly.

Bishop has a good arm, but is having some communication and confusion problems. It would be interesting to see what Kelly plans to fix his problems. He also was not at training camp and that puts him behind, I think some people are forgetting that, but its not an excuse if he is unsure of what play to execute.

There would not be any QB sacks if the line did its job. I find that when the Bombers are not having a good game, they loose their steam and just keep doing what does not work, instead of using strategy to change their game. They also need to start playing at the opening kick off, instead of just watching and let the other team be the Alpha Male on the field, and then trying new things in the second half.

Tempt - it does not matter how many yards a receiver gets if the team is loosing or is fighting hard to be the worst in the league.

Dakota - its not fair to pick out token people to blame when its the entire team who consistantly looses. I think its great that you are a Bomber supporter, but you always seem to blame the coach and the QB, when its the entire team. How can a QB throw a completion if the line does not hold the other team back?

A coach has limits to what they can do, when the important decisions are being called from the front office and are not what he had planned to happen? I think its funny how so many other teams in the league have head coaches that are able to stay and build a good team, while the Bombers just keep changing head coaches. Its funny that other coaches have been able to get the job done, with other teams after they left Winnipeg. My thoughts are that its more about the crappy organization and Bauer than the coaches. I don't think it matter who they get as head coach, the results will be the same because nothing seems to fit properly and having players like Milt Stiegel still won't produce winning results. So, by method of deduction, I believe the problem is the organization and Bauer. I would almost like the Bombers to give him an opportunity to be head coach and then can his a$$, and do what is best for the organization.

What is with you always bringing up the old retired players/coaches. I'm sure you dissed them when they were playing, but now it appears that because they are retired or moved to other teams, they have become icons to you. They were here, now they are gone and I'm sure none of them would come back if they had the chance. Its nice to remember them but they have absolutely no significance in the problems the Bombers are facing this year.
 haywiresue
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Msg: 17
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Posted: 8/18/2009 6:06:13 PM
One up - I'm just shaking my head after your last post. You have your opinion and its carved in stone. Its hard to debate an issue when one person just editorializes media blurbs and omits facts.

Do you think anyone really cares what Kelly said on the day he was appointed head coach? It was fluff and who knows if his comments were handed to him by the front office just before camera time - I'm sure you don't know for sure. What counts is the number of games they win and their position in the standings.

Your continued comments about Kelly dismantling the Bombers, are not significant when you see where this team wound up last year - making the playoffs is no big deal as almost all teams make it to the play offs. Coming close to the target only counts in horseshoes or hand grenade throwing - regarding the Grey Cup or first place - its go big or go home. Stats speak louder than that and the Bombers just didnt have what it took to win the cup. So, in your mind any action taken by any coach would be wrong, because to you, the Bombers were a performing team. You make me laugh.

The Bomber organization wanted a different view and outcome from the coaching staff and they hired Kelly. I stated earlier that none of us know if there were any organization determined player cuts that were negotiated as part of things that Kelly had to carry out prior to being hired. Unless any of us were involved in the discussions that took place out of camera, none of us can say exactly what happened - its all speculation by all of us.
 haywiresue
Joined: 9/27/2006
Msg: 18
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Posted: 8/19/2009 9:23:25 AM
Santek I agree with your post entirely.

Temp you have some good points, but I disagree with your comment about the QB. I am glad that Kevin Glenn left and I believe that Bishop has a better arm than Dinwitty, so I'm ok with giving Bishop a chance. I do believe that Kelly and Bishop should be working really hard getting him familiar with the CFL and up to speed, as this excuse will not be acceptable next year.

I agree with your comments about the organization - I have been saying that for years, and I really hope some major changes take place when the Asper Group take over the operations of the Bombers. You are so right about people laying blame on plays, the head coach and the QB. I'm not saying they are all perfect and never make mistakes, but there has to be some other reason why there is no sprit and enthusiam in the team when they represen this City/Province in the CFL.

I don't think it was a mistake to let Armstrong go if there was an attitude problem, and unfortunately we don't know exactly what the reasons were that Armstrong was let go. There could have been many reasons.

I think the biggest problem the Bombers have is with starting - the players don't seem to get motivated till the second half of the game and by then, its too late to win as the other side is not prepared to give up the lead on the scoreboard.
 haywiresue
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Msg: 19
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Posted: 8/19/2009 3:51:53 PM
Chucknorris1 - I didnt see Doug Browns column, or if I did, I forgot. You are absolutely right - no team needs that type of arrogance. Dano's comments are on the money as well.

Now about rainman...............good similie.
 LucOberdere
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Posted: 8/20/2009 7:50:55 PM
I think the Bombers just put up with the antics of Roberts anyway, until he stopped producing. Really. Like where is he now?
 TooShadows
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Posted: 8/22/2009 11:43:17 AM
What,no posts yet about last nights game? Maybe everybody couldn't get on POF either.

By the sounds of things I missed a heck of a game. It seems the offence finally came together and played as they're capable of. Let's see if they continue this way for the rest of the season.
 haywiresue
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Msg: 22
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Posted: 8/22/2009 3:11:05 PM
TwoShadows you missed 2 good games.
The Riders at Al's game was really good, and I almost felt sorry for the Riders and their main supporter TemptYourKharma - not!
The Al's certainly dominated the game and I was amazed with all the interceptions.

Watching the Bombers was a pleasant surprise, as they dominated the Lions. It was great the Reed broke the old record of most yards in a game, and I was sorry that there was a penalty against Wpg on Reed's first record breaking attempt, as the interception and TD run would have been a nice way to celebrate that event. However, the actual record making run that counted, was not so dynamic but none the less something to be proud of.

I was impressed with the protection Bishop had from the line, as it was not perfect, but it was a definite improvement from the last few games. I can only see this line getting stronger with more work. It would be really nice if they were better able to read the plays of the other teams. By studing the plays of previous games that they were not so strong on would certainly benefit them and together with the coaches could create some great ides to improve their line and dominate the other team.

The cuts and choices Kelly has made might not have made some people in the forums happy, but I still stand behind his choices, as last nights game showed that ability of the players on this team. It was great to see the Bombers out and performing at the start of the game, get points on the scoreboard, and not fading in the second half.

Great Job Bombers...............whatever you have been doing from the last game, don't stop as you seem to have found a formula for success. Don't get arogant and stop the work as your performance will suffer. I am happy to be a Bomber Fan based on your performances yesterday. Keep up the great work!
 Lumpy_22
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Posted: 8/22/2009 9:36:06 PM
seems like the defnce worked for me. They played well, the O line was awesome and due to some back LB play the Bombers made the leo's look awful... can't say I'm upset..

Glad someone pushed the Als atleast... they look like the team to beat... of course Grey Cups re not won in August ...lol
 LucOberdere
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Posted: 8/22/2009 10:25:59 PM
Good game !
I'll feel a bit more confident in the Bomber when they can get 300 years in the air though...

At least the DB's are way better than the ones from last year.
(And what about that field goal kicker ? 85% now !)
 haywiresue
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Msg: 25
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Posted: 8/29/2009 7:48:01 PM
I didn't know that "Rainman" came in stereo............................

I am glad I watched the Hamilton @ Edmonton game tonight. What an interesting game. At the end of the first half, I was beginning to think that people like me who screamed for Kevin Glenn to be replaced might have been wrong or hasty.....but then, Kevin Glenn (that almost sounds poetic) did to Hamilton, what he had done here,..blow a good lead. I'm really glad he is doing that on Hamilton's payroll and not the Bombers.

Good effort by the Riders, they kept on going to the last minutes of the game, and that final interception, was just icing on the cake.

I'm looking forward to the Bombers next game.
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