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 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 2
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Two things:

Obama probably shouldn't be in there anywhere, since he's only 7 months into his Presidency and his ratings are going to go up and down. Especially in the "average" category.

Every President since WW2 makes the list somewhere, except for LBJ. WTF? The guy brought in the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Act; he was also the symbol of a deeply unpopular war. He was President during the Tet Offensive. C'mon, did Gallup just not poll anyone for 5 years? He should have been in both top 3 highest and lowest approval ratings.
 where4
Joined: 10/1/2008
Msg: 4
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Posted: 8/15/2009 10:15:18 PM

On a more serious note though, no matter how hard the mainstream media tries to steer this country to the left, I think their obvious bias is having a backlash. More and more people seems to be turning to alternative sources of news, and it seems to be having quite an impact...


You are correct. We are seeing the effects of it everyday now.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/15/AR2009081500869.html

Blogger's Case Could Test the Limits of Political Speech
New Jersey Man Was Arrested After Writing That 3 Judges 'Deserve to Be Killed'

By Peter Slevin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, August 16, 2009

CHICAGO -- Internet radio host Hal Turner disliked how three federal judges rejected the National Rifle Association's attempt to overturn a pair of handgun bans.

"Let me be the first to say this plainly: These Judges deserve to be killed," Turner wrote on his blog on June 2, according to the FBI. "Their blood will replenish the tree of liberty. A small price to pay to assure freedom for millions."

The next day, Turner posted photographs of the appellate judges and a map showing the Chicago courthouse where they work, noting the placement of "anti-truck bomb barriers." When an FBI agent appeared at the door of his New Jersey home, Turner said he meant no harm.

He is now behind bars awaiting trial, accused of threatening the judges and deemed by a U.S. magistrate as too dangerous to be free.

Turner's case is likely to test the limits of political speech at a time when incendiary talk is proliferating on broadcast outlets and the Internet, from the microphones of well-known commentators to the keyboards of anonymous netizens. President Obama has been depicted as a Nazi and slain Kansas abortion doctor George Tiller as "Tiller the killer." On guns and abortion, war and torture, taxes and now health care, the commentary feeds off pools of anger that ebb and flow with the zeitgeist.
[...]


Does this make you happy? Does it lift the level of public discourse? This should be an interesting case to watch.

Personally, I prefer the "MSM" -- Washington Post and others where there is at least some semblance of journalistic standards -- over the majority of your irresponsible incendiary "alternative" sources. Journalism vs. opinion-mongering; the latter shedding more heat than light on the issues.

Yes, popularity polls reflect the information that's available in the marketplace.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 5
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Posted: 8/16/2009 3:53:05 PM
Well, the fourth post took this off topic.

And one person seems determined to keep it there.

Congrats.

This thread was started by someone whose political sympathies are in line with yours. Why on earth would you feel compelled to derail her thread? Start a thread if you have an original thought. Post your thoughts to an appropriate thread. But not every single thread in politics is tailor made to bash those who disagree with you.
 Wookie50
Joined: 4/9/2006
Msg: 6
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Posted: 8/17/2009 8:09:47 AM
It doesn't mean a whole lot because the public may not get everything the president is doing and the effects won't be felt right away. People respond to obvious things like Gulf war 1 and 2 to temporarily boost approval ratings. Bush Jr started out low and ended low, only rising in response to 9/11. Also, very polarizing presidents may be 50/50 so it only shows how their base feels about them.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 8
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Posted: 8/19/2009 5:38:39 PM
Start a thread about this and I'll address it.

Obviously 3 or 4 pages in, a thread will go in different directions, but c'mon. Right out of the gate you just want to use this for partisan purposes. Every once in a while it's nice to have a thread that's just about general, non-partisan discussions.
 badge3939
Joined: 8/10/2007
Msg: 9
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Posted: 8/19/2009 6:58:01 PM

Which proves somebody is confused about reporting reliable information.


All polls show a margin of error of so many percentage points.

Just go back to the election polls. They all show a = or - of so many percentage points.
 badge3939
Joined: 8/10/2007
Msg: 10
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Posted: 9/9/2009 7:55:23 AM
Looks like Obamba not the best man for the job. LAUGHS.




http://www.personalliberty.com/economic-bailouts-poll-results/

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Government Bailouts...
Good for America?

Here are the results!

The Total Number of people who voted in this poll: 616,062
1) Who is most to blame for America’s current economic crisis?
66% voted: Clinton Administration and the Democrats in Congress
12% voted: The Bush Administration
3% voted: Wall Street
15% voted: Banks and sub-prime lenders
2% voted: Real estate and mortgage professionals
0% voted: Investors
1% voted: Home buyers

2) Do you agree government bailouts are the answer to America’s financial crisis?
7% voted: Yes
89% voted: No
5% voted: Undecided

3) Do you believe the American taxpayers should have to foot the bill for our financial systems mistakes?
7% voted: Yes, we have to or we’ll end up in a prolonged recession or worse a depression.
22% voted: No, America is too far in debt already.
69% voted: Absolutely not, the American people should never be responsible for bailing out the private sector.
2% voted: Undecided

4) Do you believe the government bailouts will ultimately rescue our country's financial system?
8% voted: Yes
86% voted: No
6% voted: Undecided

5) Do you believe Barack Obama was the best choice to handle the country's future economic policy?
12% voted: Yes
85% voted: No
2% voted: Undecided



With numbers like these against him. Maybe he should give up on his Health care reform. Looks like a 1 term President to me. LAUGHS
 flyguy51
Joined: 8/11/2005
Msg: 12
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Posted: 9/9/2009 10:17:01 AM

5) Do you believe Barack Obama was the best choice to handle the country's future economic policy?
12% voted: Yes
85% voted: No
2% voted: Undecided

Well, there it is in black and white.

On second thought, maybe the source of this poll might appeal to a particular readership with, perhaps, a certain bias against the current president. Just a thought...
 badge3939
Joined: 8/10/2007
Msg: 13
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Posted: 9/9/2009 11:05:17 AM

On second thought, maybe the source of this poll might appeal to a particular readership with, perhaps, a certain bias against the current president. Just a thought...


Can you find 1 with an 85% or higher with the other bias?
Do you believe Barack Obama was the best choice to handle the country's future economic policy?
 flyguy51
Joined: 8/11/2005
Msg: 15
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Posted: 9/9/2009 4:18:09 PM

Can you find 1 with an 85% or higher with the other bias?

You should ask all the voters who decided to vote for Obama after the economy tanked. That was considered a major turning point in the campaign trends. In any case, this is misdirection, not actual rebuttal of my point.

Do you believe Barack Obama was the best choice to handle the country's future economic policy?

I didn't have strong feelings either way in that respect. Most economists claim that presidents do not have that much power to improve the economy. I liken the president's first task with the economy to that of a doctor: "First, do no harm."

The facts seem to favor Obama's performance thus far, though. The stock market is rebounding, or at the very least not plunging further downward. Economists say that the recession is technically over now according to the criteria they use to define recessions.

Increasing unemployment rate, you ask? Yeah, I wondered about that aspect as well, but it turns out that unemployment rates usually lag behind economic recoveries. It is the downsizing that allows companies to stop losing money, see.
 bliss serendipity
Joined: 12/27/2006
Msg: 16
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Posted: 9/10/2009 11:50:56 AM
^^^^^^ reading this, I am blind with rage, I can hardly see straight. Where is the outrage from the Republicans on this site regarding this? Is this what family values is all about.....hide behind religion to further their own agenda.

Bliss
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 18
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Posted: 9/10/2009 12:07:56 PM
Yeah, but JFK wasn't getting any traction on it. The bill was dead until LBJ championed it. He was quite literally the only man who could have gotten it through.

He was a master politician and knew exactly what arms to twist and how to do it. He's also the only one who could get Senator Russell on board, and that was really the only vote that mattered in the Senate.
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