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 Imported_labor
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 raxarsr
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Posted: 11/13/2009 7:26:56 AM
first of all.........no mexican criminal comes to the us and buys guns "at the corner gunshop"...........sorry....but buying a gun in america isnt that easy......espically for the types of guns the criminals want............not to mention simply buying them from an "arms dealer" is much much easier in mexico........corrupt military officials are also easy suppliers.

why should the drug laws change?....personally.......i dont want legal addicts running around.
how about this?........we start battling drugs useing the drug suppliers rules?......start shooting them...put them out of business useing the same terror tactics they use to stay in business.

consider how much more of your paycheck you could keep if you didnt have to pay illegal drug related costs.......just about every facet of retail costs are increased to cover the costs of thefts....most of which are related to drugs...either stealing to sell to buy drugs..or stealing for need because the money was spent on drugs instead of needs. most car thefts are drug related..................and the cost of houseing prisoners is outrageous...........and most criminals behind bars are drug related.

legalise drugs??????? no way....get tougher!
 hard starboard
Joined: 6/21/2008
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Posted: 11/13/2009 4:47:50 PM
I work for a company that has a manufacturing plant in Ciudad Juarez. I was there about this time last year on business (election day as a matter of fact;). The main topic of every conversation over lunch/dinner with my colleagues there was the body count. I got the impression that the only ‘safe’ places (like the hotel I stayed in?) were businesses that were paying extortion. Barbwire and security fences abound. The residences looked like miniature prisons. The murders are especially brutal. The TV news one morning was of a body found crucified to an iron gate with a pig mask over his head. The next day a body was found dangling from an overpass of a major freeway during the morning rush hour with its head cut off. Thugs walk into a drug rehab clinic and just mow people down. The body count was over 1200 for the year so far. The police were impotent to stop it and 3000 Mexican Army troops had just arrived. All this happening just across the border with El Paso.

This latest story just shows how much worse it is getting. It’s a tragedy for the population that is just trying to live normal lives there. They are desperate for a solution.
 Imported_labor
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Posted: 11/14/2009 10:15:24 AM

The standing order for Border Patrol now when they see rogue military crossing over, or plain clothes squads or armed invaders moving toward them is : "Run for your life! Do not engage!"


Do you have a source for this information?
 m14shooter
Joined: 10/2/2009
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Posted: 11/14/2009 10:03:30 PM

Also, part of Mexico's problems is that these cartels are so well armed. The cartels have no problem procuring weapons. They simply come to the United States and buy them from the corner gun shop.


Got a close friend in ATF. He has tracked a lot of the weapons and they were approved for sale to the Mexican military by Congress. Several thousand Colt M-16's have turned up in the hands of the cartels and when traced they go back to the Mexican government. The military there does not pay well and soldiers desert and take their M-16's and their G-3's when they go to work for the cartels. New Colt M-16's have NOT been sold in gun stores since the mid 80's. There are very few of them and they go for upwards of 15K and collectors would lose money if they sold them illegally.
 SAguy_06
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Posted: 12/26/2009 5:51:54 AM
Mexico's top Narco...Arturo Beltran, was killed by Mexican Navy with help of US intel ops. Mexico doesnt need UN troops. They can catch and kill all on their own.



http://mexicotrucker.com/arturo-beltran-leyva-cartel-boss-of-bosses-killed-by-mexican-navy
 Imported_labor
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Posted: 12/26/2009 9:29:45 AM

as long a there is a demand for drugs ( and there always will be) the bad economy only makes matters worse and the strongest survive, join them or die. Or systematically locate and kill them one and all as quick as possible. Before they can kill you or your family.


That is a very important point that we should keep in mind. Somehow there is always a group or cartel rising up to fill the role of supplier to meet the demand for drugs from the users in the USA and other rich countries. When they can't operate from one country, they move to another, leaving behind a trail of destruction and impoverished people and depressed land values that are easily bought by the foreign carpetbaggers for pennies on the dollar


Time for the weak of heart and stomach to get out of town.


If people knew what the real cost of the enterprise that brings them the product that gives them such a joyous momentary high, perhaps they would realize that they don't have the stomach nor the heart to continue fueling such a system. Ignorance is the enemy of all!


Mexico's top Narco...Arturo Beltran, was killed by Mexican Navy with help of US intel ops. Mexico doesnt need UN troops. They can catch and kill all on their own.


I will agree that Mexico should be able to handle its own problem. The US government should help with intelligence and with interdiction. Also the USA government should help with the seizing of money and assets of Mexican druglords and their allies in the USA, and channel the money back to the Mexican Government to fund the war against the drug lords.

I will link an article about the revenge of the Beltran cartel against the family of the Mexican marine that died in the fight in which Beltran was killed. It is meant as a note to remind us about the brutality of this war in Mexico.


Slaying of drug war hero's family shocks Mexico
By E. Eduardo Castillo
Associated Press Writer / December 22, 2009

MEXICO CITY—Assailants on Tuesday gunned down the mother, aunt and siblings of a marine killed in a raid that took out one of Mexico's most powerful cartel leaders -- sending a chilling message to troops battling the drug war: You go after us, we wipe out your families.

The brazen pre-dawn slayings came just hours after the navy honored Melquisedet Angulo as a national hero at a memorial service.

"The message is very clear: It's to intimidate not only the government but its flesh and blood," said Jorge Chabat, a Mexican expert on drug cartels. "It's to intimidate those in the armed forces so they fear not only for their own lives, but the lives of their families."

Federal officials had warned last week's killing of drug lord Arturo Beltran Leyva, known as the "boss of bosses," could provoke a violent backlash from smugglers, who have gone after federal police in the past following the arrest of high-ranking cartel members.

Beltran Leyva was among the most-wanted drug lords in Mexico and the United States, and was the biggest trafficker taken down by President Felipe Calderon's administration so far. U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration officials blamed his cartel for much of the bloodshed across Mexico.

Even so, the country was shocked by the brutal slayings of Angulo's family at their home just hours after the fallen marine's mother, Irma Cordova, 55, attended his memorial service in Mexico City, where she received the Mexican flag covering his coffin.

His brother, Benito Angulo, 28, his sister, Jolidabey Angulo, 22, and aunt, Josefa Angulo, 46, also were killed shortly after midnight when gunmen wielding assault rifles broke down the door of their home. His sister, Miraldeyi Angulo, 24, was reported in serious condition at a hospital.

The family's home in southern Tabasco state was littered with more than two dozen bullet casings.

Hit men linked to Beltran Leyva's cartel have a strong presence in Tabasco, a Gulf state bordering Guatemala, and were suspected of being behind the attack. State and federal forces searching for the assailants set up roadblocks across the state Tuesday.

The navy did not say whether it was taking special measures to protect marine families, including Angulo's two children, ages 3 years and 16 months. Authorities did not say where they or their mother were when their relatives were slain


The complete article is available at this link:
http://www.boston.com/news/world/latinamerica/articles/2009/12/22/slaying_of_drug_war_heros_family_shocks_mexico/
 Twill348
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Posted: 12/26/2009 1:35:51 PM
Mexico can take care of it's own problems. Probably time for another revolution down there.

All this blood is on the hands of those who would make drugs illegal. You are all murderers by proxy. Deny people their human right, to do with there money as they will, harming no one, and this is what you get. I would like to kill each and every one of you self righteous pricks with my bare hands. I could squeeze every last bit of compassion and sense out of every one of you, and get not a drop.

Might be time for a revolution up here, too.
 SAguy_06
Joined: 10/8/2009
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Posted: 12/28/2009 5:43:21 AM
Dear Mr. Sanchez,

Its not the Border Police that is a deterant to us traveling to N.L.
for a day of shopping and Cabrito, its the Lawlessness and shoot outs
that is keeping me away.

you see the glass as half full, is see the glass as cracked and empty.
 Singleinlewistonidaho
Joined: 8/25/2009
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Posted: 12/30/2009 2:07:53 PM
Simple for me. Toss out the drug laws that created the problems or invade Mexico and clean it up.
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