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 carterscutie85
Joined: 5/31/2007
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LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) -- An Arkansas couple featured on the reality TV show "18 Kids and Counting" now has 19.

Cable network TLC says 43-year-old Michelle Duggar gave birth to a 1-pound, 6-ounce daughter Thursday night during an emergency cesarean section. She'd been due March 18.

TLC says the child is in stable condition at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences in Little Rock.

The network airs the show starring Duggar, her 44-year-old husband and their brood. It says the Duggars named their 19th child and ninth daughter Josie Brooklyn. The Duggars' first grandchild was born Oct. 8.

The family lives in a 7,000-square-foot house in Arkansas, where they manage commercial real estate property. The couple has said they'll continue welcoming children as long as Michelle is able to have them.

TLC is owned by Discovery Communications, LLC.






This family is definitely in my prayers. I admire how they support themselves and their children without any financial aid-a lot of people cannot afford 19 kids with no governement help.

Some people are speculating that because of her multiple pregnancies, this baby came early. This same thing actually happened to my sister. After 5 children and 10 abortions, her last (6th) child was born 3 months early, and weighed just over 2lbs. She was told her muscles had been weakened due to having so many pregnancies and abortions. Thankfully my neice is now a healthy and happy 5 year old.

Of course that doesn't mean that Michelle had this baby early because of all her pregnancies. Anything could have caused her to have that child early. She carried 18 other pregnancies with no problems. I hope for the family's sake this child lives.
 Got Trance
Joined: 5/23/2007
Msg: 2
Duggers welcome 19th child--3 months early
Posted: 12/12/2009 11:36:22 AM

10 abortions

That's just sick.

19 kids is not just a family. It's a small village.

Dr. George Tiller
 carterscutie85
Joined: 5/31/2007
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Posted: 12/12/2009 11:38:24 AM
That's just sick.


I agree. But it's her life. I can't tell her how to run it. Just like with the Duggers. I say have as many kids as u want and can afford. It's unfortunate this little baby was born 3 months early, but even 5 years ago when my neice was born they had amazing technology for preemies. I am sure the technology has only improved and this baby has a good fighting chance.
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
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Posted: 12/12/2009 11:42:50 AM
It didn't hurt that TLC stepped in when they were trying to build a house and getting nowhere, and built them that huge house. I hope she's finish now and that they stop blaming supernatural beings for their sex life and lack of rational birth control. I don't admire them in the least, forcing their girls to dress like old women and not being allowed to cut their hair for fear of not being the proper religious vessels, and having a ridiculous number of children instead of helping unwanted children who need a home, etc. I think this couple is deluded at best, and I find them creepy.

As for the 19th baby, I hope she does well and recovers from such an early birth and low birth weight. With Michelle at the age when any number of birth defects can become common, I can just hear them rave on about how some god gave them a child with major problems, and go on being unbelievably irresponsible.
 SAguy_06
Joined: 10/8/2009
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Posted: 12/12/2009 11:58:53 AM
OMG...

this is the only omg for me this year...this woman is unbelieveable...and Jimbob is a sexual animal...he and his kin are well on their way to repopulating white america...

good job ol man, good luck to little ---is she named yet? Is there any more bible names for girls that start with "J"...they cant do jezzabel, that would be wrong.
 carterscutie85
Joined: 5/31/2007
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Posted: 12/12/2009 12:00:12 PM
The Duggers just have incredible faith in their religion, and live their lives accordingly. Nothing wrong with being devoted to a religion. There are far worse religions many people practice that believe crazy things-like that it's OK to beat your wife or touch your children. Like I said, at least they can afford these kids-but I still have to wonder if they would have continued having children had TLC not stepped in. I know they rent out commercial properties-but still, that only brings in so much money, and I doubt it could have supported 19 children. Idk, they have to stop sometime. There are only so many "J" names out there, LOl.

To answer someone's question, yes she has a name. Her name is Josie Brooklyn. I had thought all their children had names tied to their religion in some way-but I don't know where Josie or Brooklyn is mentioned in the Bible?

It is also quite possible this may bring about medical concerns for Michelle and they may very well suggest a historectomy to her. When my sister had that baby early, she had a historectomy because of some complications she was having.

Edit: I just had a terrible thought. When multiple women live in the same house, they tend to get their "time of the month" all at once. Lord help the men in that house..lol
 TheReason_
Joined: 5/16/2009
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Posted: 12/12/2009 12:24:02 PM
Vagina:

It's not a clown car.

http://feministphilosophers.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/249270409_664e6841fa.jpg


:facepalm:



I guess she loves teh ceck.

 barbee1970
Joined: 12/29/2008
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Posted: 12/12/2009 12:28:41 PM
Oh no not another reality show like Jon&Kate + 8. I bet that's where they make the money.
 n01s_angel_85
Joined: 5/7/2009
Msg: 9
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Posted: 12/12/2009 12:35:39 PM
They are totally against birth control. Michelle was on The Pill between the births of Josh (the oldest) and the twins, when she had a miscarriage. So, since than Michelle and Jimbob have been going to seminars to discourage birth control saying it kills babies and that is goes against God’s will.

And I agree with Daynadaze in post 4
 geeleebee
Joined: 5/26/2008
Msg: 10
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Posted: 12/12/2009 12:51:30 PM
Huh.
Well, if you can afford to have them--and raise them--then who am I to judge?
Don't care much for the 'birth control kills babies' crap, though.
While I'm at it, I'm not convinced that it's God's will for the family to have 19 children--of course, I'm not convinced that it wasn't God's will that I have flabby thighs, either...

I have two sons--one is bipolar, so it was more like having 3-4 kids. I didn't do a fabulous job raising them--ironically, I was a much better mother after my divorce--I'm hoping that each of those children feels cherished and wanted.
 Twilightslove
Joined: 12/9/2008
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Posted: 12/12/2009 1:04:58 PM
And to think Michelle will only be 61-62 years old when little Josie turns 18.

For me, 4 children was pushing it. I wish them well but I sure hope they reconsider birth control or perhaps tie some tubes.
 Got Trance
Joined: 5/23/2007
Msg: 12
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Posted: 12/12/2009 1:41:22 PM

And to think Michelle will only be 61-62 years old when little Josie turns 18.

So what is your point?

Are you trying to suggest she will be too old to do things with her youngest child?

Maybe we should have a law that people can not have children after 30 years of age.
Would that make you feel better?
Maybe even one that states people with a low IQ should not have children. How about those that are handicapped in any way?
Let's not forget about midgets, maybe they too should not have children.
All the above can not possibly raise their children and do the things that only young and fit people can do.

Stan.
 Ipostonforums
Joined: 5/27/2009
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Posted: 12/12/2009 1:45:33 PM
Imo this is bad.

19 children...erm so yeah there's not going to be a whole lot of 1 on 1 time with them.

A lot of them will probably feel very distant.

Plus uh...if we assume all get married that is going to be quite the reunion.
 JWG86
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 14
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Posted: 12/12/2009 2:05:31 PM
Very lucky their child was born before Universal Healthcare. There are already hospitals with a 500g rule. Kid doesn't way 500g. No intervention. I can only see this increasing as more and more people tax the system.
 Uomo_Universale
Joined: 8/13/2008
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Posted: 12/12/2009 2:23:50 PM
After 18, I'm sure the cells of the uterus reorganized into some sort of hand-like structure, shoved the kid out, and began forming a wall.


University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences


^---I hear their fetal stem cell research is unequaled
 yna6
Joined: 1/21/2007
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Posted: 12/12/2009 2:28:18 PM
Wow...lotta kids! I guess mom and dad won't have to worry too much about retirement! The kids will be able to handle the burden by sharing the load!
Nice to see an old fashioned family.
Hope they do well together.
 carterscutie85
Joined: 5/31/2007
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Posted: 12/12/2009 3:41:10 PM

And to think Michelle will only be 61-62 years old when little Josie turns 18.


My mom is 60 years old and my little brother just turned 18. Age affects different people different ways, but it doesn't always mean u won't be young enough to do things with your kids.

It has been reported Michelle had pre-eclampsia and that's why the baby was born early. So the early birth really doesn't have anything to do with having 18 other pregnancies.
 MolderA
Joined: 11/11/2009
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Posted: 12/12/2009 5:54:56 PM
Itl be a cold day in hell before most americans recognize any global treaty or law that violates the United States constitution. I'm sure the liberals will eat it up though. Just wait til we have the new United Nations Stormtroopers charged with enforcing global laws in every country. Public executions if you have more than 1 child or eat cheeseburgers..

19 children does seem like overkill, but if they can financially and emotionally handle it, i have nothing against them. I hope for the best for them and their children. And i also see nothing wrong with them being devoted for their religion. Afterall, i do believe we live in a free country where we are allowed to believe anything we want to.
 geeleebee
Joined: 5/26/2008
Msg: 19
Duggers welcome 19th child--3 months early
Posted: 12/12/2009 6:46:48 PM

Itl be a cold day in hell before most americans recognize any global treaty or law that violates the United States constitution. I'm sure the liberals will eat it up though. Just wait til we have the new United Nations Stormtroopers charged with enforcing global laws in every country. Public executions if you have more than 1 child or eat cheeseburgers..


As a Liberal, I have a two-word response to that^^^...thinking caps...hmmm...two...words...hmmm...

As I stated somewhere in this thread, if they can afford to raise them, then who am I to judge? Very similar to this:

...19 children does seem like overkill, but if they can financially and emotionally handle it, i have nothing against them...


So--any other cracks about Liberals, Mr. Kettle?
 JWG86
Joined: 7/5/2008
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Posted: 12/12/2009 6:49:11 PM
19 children does seem like overkill, but if they can financially and emotionally handle it, i have nothing against them.


In the early 2000's, the state of TX claimed it took 250K to support a child from 0-21 barring major illness, only providing minimum care.

So... They have a $4.75 million investment. That is where you and I and socialism help them along.
 MolderA
Joined: 11/11/2009
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Posted: 12/12/2009 10:36:38 PM
You'd rather we form commities that dictate how many children we have? How am i being hypocritical? Please, enlighten us. The liberal ideology is one of government control and assistance. Dictating we do and say what they dictate is the responsible, right, and healthy thing to do. If they can afford to have 19 kids, who am i to stop them? If they can't, then i think they're being irresponsible, but i dont believe the government should bail them out or give them money either or that they should somehow put a plug in the misses vagina and declare it illegal for them to have more kids. Again, part of being a free society is being free to fall and fail.

Because of their jobs and their financial aid through Telivision producers they are able to support this and thus are eating it up. I'm sure if they had a taste of real poverty because of this, they would re-evaluate their goals very quickly.
 Got Trance
Joined: 5/23/2007
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Posted: 12/12/2009 11:21:38 PM
Oh geez, their "carbon footprint"?
I guess they are the leading cause of global warming in the United States.
Carbon footprint, Give me a break.
 Casper66
Joined: 3/2/2007
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Posted: 12/13/2009 12:04:26 AM
It's none of business how many kids they have aslong as they can take care of them, personally I think it's a bit much, but my Dad came from a family of 11. Hopefully the child will be fine.
 MolderA
Joined: 11/11/2009
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Posted: 12/13/2009 12:14:31 AM

Oh geez, their "carbon footprint"?
I guess they are the leading cause of global warming in the United States.
Carbon footprint, Give me a break.


Lol. Well, technicly every human exhales about what, 2lbs of CO2 every day? I guess the next step in saving the Earth will be Euthanization of humans if some people get their way :P On the other side, its also been proposed to just sterilize half the worlds population... We live in crazy times...for the record, i support neither :P
 nipoleon
Joined: 12/27/2005
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Posted: 12/13/2009 2:41:06 AM
Here is an excerpt from an article by Kate Harding, in Salon.com

Vyckie Garrison, a former member of the "Quiverfull" religious movement that's spiritually responsible for the Duggars' enormous brood, suffered a partial uterine rupture during one of her seven pregnancies, and doctors told her that for the sake of her own health, she shouldn't conceive again. But according to her religious beliefs at the time, using contraception or even abstaining from sex when she was ovulating would be defying God's will. In a recent post on her "No Longer Quivering" blog, Garrison reprints a letter she once wrote to a 21-year-old mother of two who wondered if there were any circumstances under which it would be all right for a woman to "abstain during her fertile time." When she wrote it, Garrison was stull fully committed to the Quiverfull lifestyle.


I know you are well aware that often when a doctor tells a woman that future pregnancies might jeopardize her life -- it is simply not true. It is rare that pregnancy is actually life threatening to the mother. In many cases, when a woman's health is severely compromised, infertility goes along with the health condition (i.e. amenorrhea due to extreme weight loss or gain, etc.) -- this most likely is God's way of protecting the woman from the risks of pregnancy during that time. But what about the cases when the woman's reproductive system continues to function normally in spite of her other health conditions, or in the (very rare) case of a woman whose health is otherwise fine -- it is only pregnancy which puts her at risk?

Many would argue that in those cases, a couple ought to trust God to supernaturally close the woman's womb. After all, she cannot get pregnant outside of the will of God -- and He knows whether a pregnancy will endanger her life, so He can be trusted to do what is best for the woman in her situation. Abstaining during the woman's fertile period would be a lack of faith and therefore, the couple should not expect to receive God's protection for the woman's health.


Got that? If you abstain just because some doctor told you pregnancy could kill you, God will get mad and wreck your health anyway -- so what have you got to lose? Garrison adds a postscript written recently, years after she left the Quiverfull movement and her abusive husband, admitting that even that wasn't as extreme as what she truly believed at the time. "I didn't come right out and say that I honestly doubted that for some women, pregnancy is a life-threatening condition. (My years as a staunch pro-life advocate taught me that the 'life of the mother' argument was really only a convenient fallacy promoted by the pro-aborts.)" Chillingly, Garrison says she still refused to believe it after that uterine rupture nearly killed her and her son. Because if God personally authorizes each pregnancy for a specific purpose, why would he greenlight one that would leave a child -- or six or seven or 18 children -- motherless?


These people belong to a religious organization called Quiverfull, ( they don't mention that in their interviews on the TV, do they ? ). This religion actually believes every women should be pregnant as much as possible in her life.
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