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 fzrhusker
Joined: 10/8/2005
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I have a vested interest in who is in charge as a soldier. There has always been the haves and have not, and there always will be. The question at the end of the day is what can you do as one who is not part of the power structure.

Equality is a myth and you can look at history to prove this. I want to be left alone to succeed or fail on my own. We all have views that lean one way or another but when the elected use laws and tax policy to push their agenda then they have lost my trust.

Bill Gates could not have existed in Communist Russia unless he was part of the party. What we have in America today is the same principle, follow the party line and you are on the in crowd.
I have no love for the republicans but the blatant favoritism of the Obama administration is unmatched, GE, SEIU, ACORN, and many more. If you buy into his agenda you will get all you want, just follow the money.
The media is useless anymore, they are supposed to be the watchdogs of the government but that has failed miserably on both sides of the aisle.
 Gogetter1956
Joined: 1/9/2010
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What has gotten you concerned with Politics?
Posted: 1/26/2010 6:48:17 AM
I believe the reason people get so emotionally involved in politics is because our emotions are wrapped around our beliefs. That's why feelings are so fickle and should not always be trusted. We're not always right :-D
 fzrhusker
Joined: 10/8/2005
Msg: 10
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Posted: 1/26/2010 5:13:12 PM
Just remember that scientist survive on grants and to get next years grant they must show progress of their theory.(global warming)

A for MSNBC and their hosts I wouldn't watch then even if they were conservative just because of their antics, they always act like a kid telling on their brother or sister oooh mom look what Billy did. Very adolescent. Olberman sucks as a sports caster and his ramblings are barely coherent, I will use big words to show those dumb rednecks how stupid they are.
 GolfCoast
Joined: 3/17/2008
Msg: 11
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Posted: 1/27/2010 3:24:57 AM
The nexus of politics, or interest by politicians, and climate change/global warming nad science is as natural as sunrise.

Politicians flourish on fear, creating fears that cause us to seek help from larger forces. The climate change hoax is one of many in my life time that included 1. the coming ice age, heterosexual AIDS, the Corvair, saturated fats, the need for 50,000 advanced degreed people in computer science to manage the new required networks or the internet would never grow, etc.

Scientists as previously mentioned live on grants needing large problems to justifytheir continued usefulness. I call this "the next big thing syndrome". Scientists and Democrats (with any brain function at all) embrace anything that seems to be the new economic driver being generally distrustful of freedom and knowing they have little to offer a capitalist society or frankly anything in a sane world), in previous generations incl. military-industrial projects (look at any Democrat congressional district for the placement of such (e.g., NASA a gift from LBJ), interstate highways, all forms of transformational ideas in education (all failures creating nothing but useless Americans who sit in airports explaining America's sins to America hating teat-sucking Euro trash), the environmental scares, autism, etc, etc.

Ultimately these "next big things" result in "friction" on the exconomy that destroys real jobs, creates more of what you were going to cure (the war on poverty spent $13trillion to end poverty and we have more than when we intiated this while expending our capital and leaving us broke for generations and unable to compete on the world stage or deliver the things you paid so dearly for social security and medicare).
 fzrhusker
Joined: 10/8/2005
Msg: 13
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Posted: 3/1/2010 8:09:57 AM
Looks like the tea party is going global, the whole world is fed up.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100027366/british-tea-party-movement-to-launch-on-saturday/
 fzrhusker
Joined: 10/8/2005
Msg: 14
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Posted: 5/6/2010 9:51:37 AM
Times Square Bomber Linked With CIA-Controlled Terror Group

Jaish-e-Muhammad founded by CIA-MI6 asset who bankrolled 9/11 hijackers

Times Square Bomber Linked With CIA Controlled Terror Group 060510top

Paul Joseph Watson
Thursday, May 6, 2010

A man arrested in Pakistan in connection with the Times Square car bombing attempt who had traveled with accused bomber Faisal Shahzad is a member of a terrorist organization that is controlled by British MI6 and the CIA.

Sheik Mohammed Rehan, who was arrested on Tuesday in Karachi, “Allegedly drove with Shahzad from Karachi to Peshawar on July 7, 2009, in a pickup truck, authorities said. They returned to Karachi July 22. It is not known why they went to Peshawar and whether they met with anyone there,” reports the L.A. Times.

Rehan is a member of the militant group Jaish-e-Muhammad, a terrorist organization that came to prominence in the mid-1990’s and has been involved in attacks in the disputed Kashmir border region between India and Pakistan. The group also helped carry out the December 2001 attack on the Indian Parliament which brought India and Pakistan to the brink of nuclear war, tensions that proved very lucrative for British and American arms manufacturers who sold weapons to both sides.

“The December 2001 terrorist attacks on the Indian parliament — which contributed to pushing India and Pakistan to the brink of war — were conducted by two Pakistan-based rebel groups, Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Muhammad, both of which are covertly supported by Pakistan’s ISI,” writes Michel Chossudovsky. “Needless to say, these ISI-supported terrorist attacks serve the geopolitical interests of the US. They not only contribute to weakening and fracturing the Indian Union, they also create conditions which favor the outbreak of a regional war between Pakistan and India.”

Jaish-e-Muhammad, the group now emerging in connection with the Times Square incident, was founded by Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, the 9/11 bagman who delivered $100,000 from the United Arab Emirates to Mohammed Atta at the behest of General Mahmud Ahmed, then head of the ISI. Mahmud Ahmed, the man who ordered Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh to bankroll the attacks on the Pentagon and the World Trade Center, was meeting with Republican Congressman Porter Goss and Democratic Senator Bob Graham in Washington DC on the morning of 9/11. In the days before and after the attack, Ahmed also met with CIA Head George Tenet as well as current Vice-President Joe Biden, then Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

In a report on Jaish-e-Muhammad’s involvement in the murder of Daniel Pearl, who was investigating the ISI, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported that the Pakistani government, “Believe that Saeed Sheikh’s power comes not from the ISI, but from his connections with our own CIA.”

Former Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf also alleged that Sheikh was recruited by MI6 while studying in London for the effort to destabilize Bosnia. During the 1992-1995 Bosnia conflict, the CIA helped Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda to train and arm Bosnian Muslims.

In 2002, the London Times reported that Sheikh “is no ordinary terrorist but a man who has connections that reach high into Pakistan’s military and intelligence elite and into the innermost circles of Osama Bin Laden and the al-Qaeda organization.”

Despite Sheikh’s intimate involvement in numerous acts of terror as well as political kidnappings, including the 2008 Mumbai massacre, he was protected by both the CIA and British intelligence at every turn.

To recap, this is the man who founded the group now emerging in connection with the botched Times Square bombing – a CIA and MI6 asset.

“Experts believe Jaish-e-Muhammad still benefits from links with Pakistan’s powerful government intelligence community. Some experts believe Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency facilitated the group’s formation,” states yesterday’s L.A. Times article.

As the vast majority of geopolitical analysts concur, the Pakistani ISI is virtually nothing more than a CIA outpost. The ISI does nothing without the Agency giving its approval. The CIA has paid millions of dollars to the ISI since 9/11, accounting for no less than a third of the ISI’s entire budget, despite the foreign spy agency’s notorious history of funding and arming terrorist groups like Jaish-e-Muhammad and despite the fact that it bankrolled the 9/11 hijackers.

Since the CIA has its fingerprints all over almost every Middle Eastern terror group, it’s unsurprising that an Agency connection to the Times Square bomber has come to light. We’ve never come across a terrorist who wasn’t trained, equipped, radicalized, entrapped, or provocateured by a western intelligence agency or a terror group controlled by a western intelligence agency.
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
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What has gotten you concerned with Politics?
Posted: 5/8/2010 11:48:14 AM
The steady attack on this country's unity by people who are disloyal to it. They want to break up everything that has made America great and replace it with a mediocre nanny state with limited freedoms and very limited influence in the world. They are setting the stage for a catastrophe, and they must be stopped.
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
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Posted: 5/8/2010 12:17:41 PM

What tripe.


I take that as a compliment. Thank you.
 fzrhusker
Joined: 10/8/2005
Msg: 17
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Posted: 5/9/2010 9:25:03 AM
So who are the ones calling for violence, watch the 2nd two videos and tell me who is calling for violence.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/new-film-%E2%80%98machete%E2%80%99-evokes-race-war.html
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
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Posted: 5/11/2010 12:29:29 AM
This is one the best articles I've read in years. It's long, but it's all well-reasoned and accurate. It's about one professor, but the author uses him as an example of a racist, Marxist, anti-Semitic, anti-American ideology which arose in the 1960's, which has spread through this country, and which aims to destroy it. Not surprisingly, this professor, Cornel West, is a personal friend of Mr. Obama.

That facts the author brings out about West shed light on Obama's own Marxist inclinations, his insulting treatment of Israel, and his readiness to apologize for this country and to appease its enemies. There's not much that separates Obama's beliefs from the race prejudice against whites, the hatred of Jews, and contempt for this country that West, Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan and other black radicals have shown.

Notice

http://article.nationalreview.com/433811/hurricane-west-cornel-west-and-american-radicalism/david-horowitz
 213history
Joined: 9/26/2009
Msg: 19
What has gotten you concerned with Politics?
Posted: 5/11/2010 3:45:30 AM
This country’s rich history has excluded the contributions of women and minorities. As an Asian-American, I feel it is important that we express ourselves and make our presence and perspectives known.

In my opinion, most people who regularly discuss politics simply enjoy complaining, educating and influencing citizens who are too busy to be fully informed. Honest discussion is a good thing.
 GolfCoast
Joined: 3/17/2008
Msg: 20
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Posted: 5/11/2010 6:25:45 AM
Can you provide some examples of minorities or women who have contributed and not received credit?

If you are speaking of mother's, because much of the good in any person is due to their mother, you have a point. If you are speaking of ethnic groups that arrived to do some god-awful work , you have a point. But in terms of the people who have history books written about them..... none have been overlooked.

Here's a definition you can actually use as you wind up a response, political correctness is something that is true but painful. Our society cannot deal with pain, with having someone win the ball game, accept men are better than women at math, and more genius's and more imbeciles are men, well we simply call on PC to deflect the truth.

As we have nominated the 3rd Jew to the Supreme Court, with only 4% of the USA population, and the other 6 are Roman Catholic, perhaps we should spend a moment reflecting on the backgrounds of the founders, and the country they envisioned, and what it has become, a Balkanized, financially depressed, polarized, country of whiners, deadbeats and ingrates.
 fzrhusker
Joined: 10/8/2005
Msg: 21
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Posted: 5/11/2010 7:47:18 AM
The following are 20 signs that the United States is rapidly becoming a totalitarian ”Big Brother” police state….

#1) A new bill being pushed by Senators John McCain and Joe Lieberman would allow the U.S. military to round up large numbers of Americans and detain them indefinitely without a trial if they “pose a threat” or if they have “potential intelligence value” or for any other reason the President of the United States “considers appropriate”.

#2) Lawmakers in Washington D.C. working to create a new immigration bill have decided on a way to prevent employers from hiring illegal immigrants: a national biometric identification card all American workers would be required to obtain.

#3) Barack Obama is backing a plan to create a national database to store the DNA of people who have been arrested but not necessarily convicted of a crime.

#4) Just to get on an airplane, Americans will now have to go through new full-body scanners that reveal every detail of our exposed bodies to airport security officials.

#5) If that wasn’t bad enough, the Transportation Security Administration has announced that airport screeners will begin roving through airports randomly taking chemical swabs from passengers and their bags to check for explosives.

#6) Starting this upcoming December, some passengers on Canadian airlines flying to, from or even over the United States without ever landing there, will only be allowed to board their flights once the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has determined they are not terrorists.

#7) Organic milk is such a threat that the FDA has been conducting military style raids on Amish farmers in Pennsylvania.

#8) An NYPD officer has broken his silence and has confessed that innocent citizens are being set up and falsely arrested and ticketed in order to meet quotas.

#9) A growing number of police departments across the U.S. are turning to mobile camera systems in order to fight motor vehicle theft and identify unregistered cars.

#10) For decades, Arizona has been known as “the sunset state”, but lately many frustrated residents have started calling it “the surveillance state”.

#11) Judges and police in Florida have been caught using “secret codes” on tickets in the state of Florida.

#12) An extensive investigation has revealed that between 2003 and 2007, that state of Texas quietly gave hundreds of newborn baby blood samples to a U.S. Armed Forces laboratory for use in a forensics database.

#13) A 6-year-old girl was recently handcuffed and sent to a mental facility after throwing temper tantrums at her elementary school.

#14) One 12-year-old girl in New York was recently arrested and marched out of her school in handcuffs just because she doodled on her desk.

#15) In Florida, students have been arrested by police for things as simple as bringing a plastic butter knife to school, throwing an eraser, and drawing a picture of a gun.

#16) When a mother on a flight to Denver spanked both of her children and cussed out a flight attendant who tried to intervene, she suddenly found herself handcuffed and headed for prison. Why? She was charged with being a domestic terrorist under the Patriot Act.

#17) A new global treaty may force U.S. Internet service providers to spy on what you do online.

#18) A leaked Obama administration memo has revealed plans for the federal government to seize more than 10 million acres of land from Montana to New Mexico.

#19) 56 percent of Americans questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll said that the U.S. government has become so large and powerful that it poses an immediate threat to the rights and freedoms of ordinary citizens.

#20) But one other recent poll found that 51 percent of Americans agree with this statement: ”It is necessary to give up some civil liberties in order to make the country safe from terrorism.”
 213history
Joined: 9/26/2009
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Posted: 5/11/2010 8:56:36 AM
Can you provide some examples of minorities or women who have contributed and not received credit?


Any person who has studied or paid attention during American history courses would admit there is a recurring theme of superiority by one group. In my opinion, this brainwashes minority students into feeling ashamed and distancing themselves from their culture.

There are many examples of minority exclusion in our history books. By not being included it is like a tree without its roots. For example, students in Texas are taught Jane Long is the "Mother of Texas" because it is claimed that she was the first woman to have a child in the state.

This short lesson simply excluded all Latinos, Mexicans and native Americans that had babies. By giving Jane Long the title as the "Mother of Texas" proves my point about writing and teaching a history that makes minorities non-existent or invincible.

Another example would be the exclusion of Chinese from newspapers photographs after completing national railroads.

Finally, Lena Horn's early roles were short because studios would edit her out for movies distributed to the south.

It is important to have Latino and minority children be proud of their history and culture, but they will not even know it unless it is taught.
 GolfCoast
Joined: 3/17/2008
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Posted: 5/11/2010 11:54:22 AM
213 dude, millions upon millions of people served important roles in this world and are never known. I'll bet $5 Chris Columbus didn't set foot on Hispanola before some poor unknown tested the ground so Chris didn't get his new shoes wet. You're reaching and reaching there. If I do a strategy for a client, and he presents it at the next webconference as his new strategy, I doubt the WSJ is gonna say ol' Golfcoast rung the bell on that one.

Sometimes the examples people give as proof of the important role of others make the group seem smaller rather than larger.

Aside from that my 2nd cousin Mozart playing them hit tunes means nothing to my grocer. You guys need to get a grip on the source of self-esteem.
 213history
Joined: 9/26/2009
Msg: 24
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Posted: 5/11/2010 12:27:24 PM
Golf dude,

The source for self-esteem is complex. Self-esteem is taught and emulated by observing and accepting how the world works. People process and internalize conclusions and accept presented evidence. This is especially true when speaking about primary and secondary education. Most students are continually processing a history which cast minorities as inferior or insignificant. This is not mentioning the added influence of media. Most of us would agree the brainwashing is effective in chipping away at the self-esteem of minorities. In my opinion, this is why most minorities choose not to participate in discussions about politics.

Your Columbus example proves this. How does one ‘discover’ new land that was already populated?

It is very difficult for a child to have a higher level of self-esteem than the person who raised them. This means that it is imperative that minorities need to step it up.
 GolfCoast
Joined: 3/17/2008
Msg: 25
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Posted: 5/11/2010 1:01:20 PM
213 inventing oneself is a fine, old American tradition. Muti-cultural fairy tale making revisionist history is a sad legacy of the old world. Feel free to be all you can be no matter your clan hates the Kim clan from the big muddy.
 fzrhusker
Joined: 10/8/2005
Msg: 26
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Posted: 5/12/2010 8:27:29 AM
You can listen or not but its happening right before your eyes and they are not even shy about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU8eewVaWPc
 213history
Joined: 9/26/2009
Msg: 27
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Posted: 5/12/2010 10:22:53 AM
It is unfortunate you feel that hyphenated- Americans is destroying this country.

The hyphenated phenomenon is an effort to recognize the contributions of minorities. By doing so allows minority to feel "American." Without recognizing minority contributions it makes it far too easy for those who call themselves real “Americans” to accuse minorities of not having a hand in building this nation.
 GolfCoast
Joined: 3/17/2008
Msg: 28
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Posted: 5/12/2010 12:39:49 PM
I just had a brilliant idea!! We could give little recognition pins to all the minorities, females, people from deprived backgrounds, people who are gay, people who may be gay but still can't come out, people who work in jobs beneath their dignity, people who can't get jobs, people who have ever felt sad, people who ever lost a pet...all get pins and badges.

OR, we could grow up and recognize life is a bumpy ride, we're probably at best God's own animated cartoon figures, and in spite of it all it's better than any alternative. Tat the smallest minority group in the world is an individual and all this other afinity crap is just weak people trying to find a reason and excuse for their inadequacy.

PS I forgot pins for people who might feel like offing themselves.
 213history
Joined: 9/26/2009
Msg: 29
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Posted: 5/12/2010 6:11:46 PM
I just had a brilliant idea!! We could give little recognition pins to all the minorities, females, people from deprived backgrounds, people who are gay, people who may be gay...


edit: (comment removed)
 GolfCoast
Joined: 3/17/2008
Msg: 30
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Posted: 5/12/2010 6:42:48 PM
Paul tell the truth you won't find peace and your place in this world until your particular European tribe is acknowledged for inventing the sno-cone (made that up) and obtain reparations from the _________ (fill in the tribes name). How possibly could a human obtain full humanity without a complete appreciation and a day, no make that a month, of offical acknowledgement by Obumbler.
 213history
Joined: 9/26/2009
Msg: 31
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Posted: 5/12/2010 7:03:25 PM
Hey Mr. K,

Thank you for sharing your honest perspective. Providing a rebuttal would be redundant responses I have already posted on this subject.

A common attack on the hyphenators is to question their loyalties. Personally, I feel it’s an attempt to keep minorities invincible and insignificant. In my opinion the effort not to recognize hyphenators is an attempt to deflect white guilt onto the rest of citizens.

It also seems like Mr. K and Golf Dude are suggesting that minorities accept the status quo.

" Chale Homes"
 GolfCoast
Joined: 3/17/2008
Msg: 32
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Posted: 5/12/2010 7:20:12 PM
213 as specifically as you can, tell what overthrowing the status quo would include, and just for me, tell me how I would/should feel after you've created this hyphenated paradise?

Would you imagine when I've lived in Korea I had dreams of making others acknowledge or know me? Do you imagine people would roll their eyes and wonder what kind of fruitcake comes to Korea to find his American roots?
 213history
Joined: 9/26/2009
Msg: 33
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Posted: 5/12/2010 7:48:46 PM
Mr. Coast,

Naturally, most Caucasian- Americans (or European- American) would feel threatened by the emergence and recognization of the hyphenators. This fear is reflected in your word use of ‘overthrow’ instead of ‘change’ or ‘modify’. Changing the status quo begins with recognizing the hyphenators and social barriers. I’m sure it’s a lot easier to accuse minorities as inadequate.

Emergence of citizens who identify themselves with a hyphenation help expose the discrimination and barriers that continue exist today through quantitative research. For example, Racial discrimination in advertising is 38% worse than in the country's overall labor market and the divergence between racial equality in this industry and the rest of the labor market is more than twice as large today as 30 years ago, according to the Research Perspective on Race and Employment in the Advertising Industry.
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