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 Irish Eyez
Joined: 12/30/2008
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I've been simplifying - or editing - as I like to call it, for as long as I can recall.

I don't like clutter; be it in my mind or home.
 DivineBovine
Joined: 5/13/2005
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Posted: 2/24/2010 3:44:54 PM
accumulation.

but i only bought my first home two years ago and need furniture for guests.

i could stand to lose some fabric, though!

 Hippiekinkster
Joined: 1/7/2010
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Posted: 2/24/2010 5:10:44 PM
My problem is housemates keep leaving stuff when they move on. TVs, audio gear, King-sized pillow mattress, 42 inch TV, leather recliners, printers, "artwork", et cetera. It's a burden. Then a friend sneaks a dog in...

I'm really trying to get rid of all this stuff. All I need is good video, an audio system which not only gets loud enough for me to practice drumming to some tunes/compositions as well as being accurate with good imaging and dynamic range, a place to sleep. my PC, my transportation, my kitchen gear, my tools, and my couch on the back porch for reading/NPR listening. And a girlfriend.

This spring, there's a community-wide garage sale (one of the largest in Atlanta). And my last tie to my ex, a is either going to be sold to her or is going on the market.
"The times they are a' changin'."
 IgorFrankensteen
Joined: 6/29/2009
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Posted: 2/24/2010 6:56:04 PM
I have recently forcefully ejected MYSELF from an accumulation stage. I finally realized that I was a COLLECTOR of various things, but that far from being the fun, harmless hobby I thought it was, that it actually is a small part of a GENERAL imbalance in me. I had both the urge to have complete sets of certain things (such as copies of all of the Apple label record albums ever published), AND the urge to have the most completely FEATURED modern gizmos, in order to have complete ACCESS to modern information and fun sources. Silly, huh.
In addition to not being able to afford such nonsense, it was eating up my time as well, AND, was caused by a subconscious SOMETHING that I have as yet not completely identified, but I DID figure out was misguided.
IN short, I don't actually need the stuff, and so I'm rendering it into cash, to help educate my children. I am also simplifying my lifestyle, so that I can do MORE with my time (things eat up one's time, as they require care and maintenance). I am having fun instead, accumulating concepts, wise sayings of my own invention, friendships, moments of accomplishment (such as succeeding in helping my children cope with moments of negativity in their lives), and a few INEXPENSIVE replicas of the items I used to collect.

I would not be surprised if SOME of the men who you think are hooked on acquiring material possessions, are ACTUALLY hooked on acquiring a sense of personal power and stable position in the world. The material goods they seek have been MARKETED (falsely) as being able to provide those achievements. That, and access to sex, and to pseudo-sex, known as porn.
 AintNoDeal
Joined: 2/3/2010
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Posted: 2/24/2010 8:05:30 PM
For many years all I had was used or cheap stuff, not quality or flash. When I was finally able to afford better, I played catch up by replacing the junk, but also went on that collector's binge. Five years back I finally put the brakes on collecting and started to clean out the stuff I don't need.

It's a work in progress ...
 c_deacon
Joined: 3/13/2005
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Posted: 2/24/2010 8:06:23 PM
I accumulate money and investments creating the pleasant situation of being able to buy what I want, when I want, and for whom I want, and give away what I do not want or need........

So......the phase I am in is enjoyment!!

cd..........
 Hippiekinkster
Joined: 1/7/2010
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Posted: 2/24/2010 9:19:50 PM
I meant to type, " And my last tie to my ex, a rental house, is either going to be sold to her or is going on the market."

Na ja.
 ItsMargo
Joined: 4/24/2007
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Posted: 2/24/2010 9:50:42 PM
Simplify, simplify, simplify.

Detach, detach, detach.
 HarrNels
Joined: 12/18/2008
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Posted: 2/24/2010 9:55:36 PM
I've been simplifying since my son moved out 7 years ago. I've never been a collector of anything, so that hasn't been an issue for me. I'd rather spend my money on travel and experiences than the next new car or stainless steel appliances. Sure they look nice, but they don't matter all that much to me.

But I am a creature of comfort, so I'll always have a comfy rocking chair and big comfy couch.
 GeneralizingNow
Joined: 10/10/2007
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Posted: 2/24/2010 10:02:06 PM
Ha ha I'm staying in a "cabin" in Idaho with 5 bedrooms, three baths, all the latest appliances and gadgets, a hottub, and a magnet on the fridge says "SIMPLIFY".
 WalksOnWater2
Joined: 5/19/2009
Msg: 12
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Posted: 2/24/2010 10:14:26 PM
I am at a happy stage where I have everything I need and even stuff I want.
For the past few years I religiously eliminate things that I THOUGHT at some point that I needed or wanted, but I don't. The criterion is everything not utilized in the last 2 years got to go. What amazes me is how happy people are to receive things that clutter your space...


 Rythmn
Joined: 1/21/2006
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Posted: 2/24/2010 11:46:58 PM
right now if i accumulate anything, it will be wisdom!

what is hardest for me to deal with is the papers: adoption papers, divorce papers, tax papers, memories yada yada yada. once i plow through this, i will throw a party. each kid has about four huge boxes left per kid. i don't want to throw out, what might haunt them in the future when i'm long gone. but, when does the pile get so high, they wouldn't even read through it?

i'm trying at least to get their important histories on CD's. also making them take on their own papers as each one matures and i think they won't lose the stuff. nonetheless, one is again in flux and brought "back" four new boxes of her stuff for safe keeping! these are hers. if i ever move, it's clear she is to come and get them. at least, she gave the cat to her sister!

also stuff that was dear to my parents. i am trying to see if some places want their stuff. my mom was a wac and i have a lot of ww2 memorobilia. first, i will price it. would like to donate it, so her stuff lingers on. there is a place for female vets in washington dc someplace. soon, i will get to it! my grandfather has his stuff somewheres with president wilson's house. at least, i think that is where it is. he came up with an idea for an international insurance agency to back up people in wartime. they say it was prior to coming up with the united nations. boy, would he turn over in his grave with the world today!
 cncgandolf
Joined: 7/29/2007
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Posted: 2/25/2010 12:14:47 AM
While not into having 'stuff' at any time in my life, I've still managed to collect some. There are some I'd just as soon keep. Not much. But, I loaned my home to my sister and her husband last year and put almost all my stuff in my shed. She finally got around to moving the vast majority of her stuff (she's the collector) to storage or her new place a couple of months ago and I moved back in.

I brought a plate, bowl a couple of pans... not much with me. My grand-nephew moved in last month, so I bought a $20 set of dishes.

Yep, stuffs in the shed. Can't seem to talk myself into doing anything about it. grins. Even at Christmas I couldn't talk myself into facing trying to find the decorations. hehehehe.

When I was 30 I took a job in No CA and what fit in my car went with me. Small car. I like the rule to this day.
 Rythmn
Joined: 1/21/2006
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Posted: 2/25/2010 2:03:35 AM
well cat, lots of raw food here in hippy dippy town. give me a holler if you need one of my "empty" rooms to stay!
 Write Time
Joined: 12/29/2008
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Posted: 2/25/2010 2:21:51 AM
I'm absolutely in the simplify mode. I want more freedom to get out of my home and experience life -- not find more ways to be tied down.
 ForRumOnly
Joined: 3/16/2009
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Posted: 2/25/2010 9:12:59 AM
I greatly simplified everything about 7 years ago. We sold the 3 storey full basement 4 bedroom house and virtually everything in it, bought a small RV and traveled awhile full time. When we needed to settle down again, we got a much smaller home near the beach and have been very selective about bringing anything into it unless we a) need it, and b) really like it. We have accumulated a few things, but very little excess, really, and periodically attempt to purge things that have crept in. We even take the books we've read to the used bookshop to trade in for something else, so there is almost no net gain in our book collection, and books are our major weakness. We no longer have pets, which has greatly increased our freedom to do things spontaneously.

We put most of our time and money into doing things together and with friends. Some of them have boats - but we get to enjoy them!
 TedJMill
Joined: 7/6/2005
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Posted: 2/25/2010 1:10:27 PM
I'm not into the status symbol, fancy-schmancy stuff. 2009 was a big simplifying year for me, getting rid of a house and some furniture, as well as the girlfriend who'd wanted them, and getting a one-bedroom apartment by myself. Now I have my bedroom with bed, chest of drawers, and bookcases, my kitchenette, my living and dining sets which used to be patio furniture at the house, and my desktop computer and 14" portable TV. I'm accumulating the things I do care about, like books and DVDs, but I'm not interested in a wide-screen TV, fancier furniture, a bigger place, etc.
 Rythmn
Joined: 1/21/2006
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Posted: 2/25/2010 4:41:54 PM
i also went through a fire chill pill. my entire office along with other businesses burned down. i was the owner of the firm. all mom's antiques, precious memories, et al burned bright-- plus an extensive professional library and client papers. the fire burned for two days and many a dream when up in flames that day. several days later (separate incident) one of my dogs slit the throat of the other. thank G-d i was working out of my home. they had never fought before. i put my hands on his throat and clamped it closed, saved the dog. my "new" secty, who drove me to the vet the next day, quit hysterically crying. all surrounding hospital clients chipped in and helped replenish the library. i asked my mother's ghost in heaven to forgive the antiques, bonded with other victims and proceeded to run my company off the living room floor. also upped the fire insurance. several of my employees needed time off to recoup. if it was another half hour, we all would be dead. one of the candle storefronts underneath our office space forgot to turn off the melting machine. to this day, i have both fear and respect about fire. but, no kids back then and my pets all lived. that is the most important.

people and pets first. those who have survived katrina tell similar tales and worse. then there is haiti. accumulating can be fun, as long as it does not define you. however my brain now craves simplicity. no more fires! just creek gazing and the ocean, thank you.
 kari135
Joined: 9/1/2009
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Posted: 2/25/2010 6:14:10 PM
I'm an accumulater. No matter how much I get rid of, it seems to grow in dark corners, like herds of rabbits. It's not status sybol stuff, it's mostly craft supplies, a few mementos from way back when - for instance, I have a flat iron my gran used to use for ironing at the turn of the last century. I go through electronics like grease through a goose - this has got to be the dustiest place in the world, and I have an assortment of CD/tape/radio players that one or the other part works, and if it works, I can't bring myself to throw it away. They're cheap ones, but since I know a good one won't last any longer, I get cheap so it doesn't hurt when I finally toss them.

I also had a house fire in which I lost everything but a cast iron skillet, the flat iron, and half a dozen books (out of about 12,000). Things got replaced, and the accumulation just grew.
 GingersnapWA2
Joined: 11/26/2009
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Posted: 2/25/2010 9:07:03 PM
I am into simplifying my material life, and accumulating life experiences that will enrich me Inside. Men who are just into collecting "things" or status symbols are not of any interest to me. I am interested in what knowlege and wealth of experiences that you have to share.
 moraima
Joined: 6/26/2005
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Posted: 2/26/2010 9:51:13 AM
Anything I don't want/use goes to the charity shop. I would rather help a charity out rather than deal with selling things. Donating rather than selling is some thing I do to simplify my life. Nothing worse do I hate than garage sales etc. I see in profiles people who enjoy spending their weekends going to garage sales. That let's me know right away, we won't be a good match even as friends.
 arcticdude
Joined: 10/4/2008
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Posted: 2/26/2010 10:29:17 AM
My divorce was my simplifying period.
I pick & choose the material accessories to my life. I don't 'boast' about my new stuff, though I do enjoy it...I might share my excitement...is that 'boasting'?
What are we talking about here? I am thrilled about the prospect of buying more cast iron cookware and looking forward to upgrading my kitchen & laundry appliances with more energy efficient models when they eventually reach their lifespan. I'm also looking into buying a kayak to enjoy some paddling next summer with my daughter...Sure feels like accumulation to me...and quite positive!
I could see the possibility of tension if limited resources were being drained away from life essentials or common assets because of someones classic car collection or if someone's shoe collection was monopolizing wardrobe space, but in general...unless we are discussing a potential episode of 'Hoarders'...I personally wouldn't concern my self with my mates accumulation/simplifying . Why should I be? What impact does it have on me? (That's not a rhetorical question.)
 Paderic
Joined: 2/23/2010
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Posted: 2/26/2010 12:42:05 PM
I'm a stuff guy. I don't acquire much anymore, I mostly use what I've got and upgrade when it makes sense. The thing I am inundated with is tools. I love making things, so I have a very well equipped workshop. I also recently inherited all of my father's tools.

The thing I'm happiest to have gotten rid of was debt. The only loan I have is my mortgage, and I'm about 7 years from clearing that. As a result, I am accumulating money in my savings accounts.
 *mae* flowers
Joined: 1/15/2006
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Posted: 2/26/2010 9:23:11 PM

I accumulate money and investments creating the pleasant situation of being able to buy what I want, when I want, and for whom I want, and give away what I do not want or need...


Why don't cha come up to my room sometime?



The thing I'm happiest to have gotten rid of was debt. The only loan I have is my mortgage, and I'm about 7 years from clearing that. As a result, I am accumulating money in my savings accounts.


...Feels great doesn't it? I'm about 18 months away from being debt free. Now...all I need to do is learn how to de-clutter.

...mae
 Much More
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Posted: 2/27/2010 5:29:08 AM
I find it difficult to get rid of things !

Seriously, it is harder for some of us to give up our "stuff". I have learned not to buy as much. This is good. Yes, I still have the things I collect Danish Modern teak furniture, Christmas ornaments (Baldwin brass and Swarovski snowflakes), shoes (I think it is in the girl genes....LOL), books and a few other things.

It is more "Zen" to declutter and release those emotional attachments to things...but that does not make it easy. I go to the library for most of my reading books now. I also donated boxes and boxes to them.

Please tell me that you don't just pitch those things in the trash. Just because you no long need or want it, there are many others that could benefit. Donate what is still decent/usable to those that need it.

Thanks!
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