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 Got Trance
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I praise their work. They have done what the feds do not want to do.


By Drew Zahn
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

A border watchdog group called The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps announced it is dissolving its corporation today, concerned that Americans have grown so angry over illegal immigration and border drug wars that violence may soon erupt – with American citizens pulling the trigger.



Read article here..... http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=131037

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 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
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Posted: 3/24/2010 9:38:31 PM
Yeah next time vote in Palin, that will fix everything.
 mrnova66
Joined: 11/28/2009
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Posted: 3/25/2010 6:18:12 PM
Yes after heath care it is time for all the illegals becoming citizens.....BAM!!BAM!!!Will be working on that next...You know this country is going to hell in a hand basket....I am glad i am getting older and that i do not have no kids....I could not do that to anybody....I see alot of shit in the future....No more middle class for starters...Either you will be rich or dirt poor=third world country...ITS coming folks...
 Codeguru
Joined: 9/29/2009
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Posted: 3/25/2010 10:42:08 PM
Good, maybe they can get something accomplished in the shadows better than being a corporation...

Codeguru
 Singleinlewistonidaho
Joined: 8/25/2009
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Posted: 3/26/2010 1:46:30 AM
The Take over of the South West reverting back to Mexico or an independant Latino state is planned and will happen someday. If you are not brown you won't get a breathing license. Read the Book Civil War Two by Tom Chittum. He's a Nam vet who vollunteered for the Bosnian conflict. He later wrote his book making a very scary comparison between the Bosnian conflict and what we are seeing today.

Mike
 Pyro74
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Posted: 3/26/2010 4:49:22 AM

This is an outrage...with Obama pandering to the Latino group it would seem we need more border control not less.
Being a citizen of one of the states most negatively affected by the influx of illegal immigrants I can only hope that the government does their job and protects our border...yeah right.

FYI: Deportations are at record highs under the Obama administration, that's why the latinos just held a huge immgration rally in DC.
 Got Trance
Joined: 5/23/2007
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Posted: 3/26/2010 5:00:20 AM

who needed THEM in the first place
they are- hopefully WERE -
radical nut cases who did nothing but caused trouble
they accomplished nothing


Can you provide any articles about all the trouble they caused?
Unless you mean the trouble they caused for the illegal aliens.

Whore hey
 Earthpuppy
Joined: 2/9/2008
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Posted: 3/26/2010 7:42:54 AM
Good riddance to white trash, although, this is a strategic financial decision, not one based on any sort of conscience. The Locked and Loaded campaign that begins today is "zero tolerance" vigilante-ism. Various Aryan Nation and KKK chapters have been shut down due to financial liabilities after inciting such violence. The Minutemen have also been engaged in tax fraud. This announcement is merely a CYA move and many in the movement are being absorbed into other hate groups.

"Can you provide any articles about all the trouble they caused?"
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705313477,00.html
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/09/14/nativist-group-founder-admits-contact-with-forde-hours-after-slayings-in-arizona/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009471018_webbush15.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/us/17penn.html?_r=3&hp
http://immigration.change.org/blog/view/after_issuing_a_call_to_arms_minuteman_group_disbands
http://messageboards.aol.com/aol/en_us/articles.php?boardId=551411&articleId=440145&func=6&channel=Member+Guided+News&filterRead=false&filterHidden=true&filterUnhidden=false
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/18/arizona-sues-minuteman-group-leader-alleging-property-tax-scam/
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 3/26/2010 10:20:05 AM
There is a vast difference between the Minute(pr. Mine-oot as in tiny)men and the tired old ACORN conspiracy-based assassination. ACORN was targeted by the same sorts of scared white folks for registering minority voters. That was their greatest "sin". All else was manufactured for Fox consumption, much the way the "immigrant threat" has been manufactured and amplified by the scared right fear monger machinery. ACORN was targeted for violence much the same as the hispanic community has been scapegoated and targeted by the scared white right.

ACORN was acquitted of all charges unlike the Minute(tiny)men movement, and never incited violence like the Minute(tiny)men have done. With non-white births surpassing white births in the US for the first time in hundreds of years, reactionary groups like the Tinymen and ACORN assassination squads will only grow more scared and more violent as they seek scapegoats.


http://www.truthout.org/acorn-permanently-shut-its-offices57898
"That investigation, as well as several others conducted over the past several months, concluded that the three ACORN employees featured in the videos did not break any laws.
Indeed, earlier this month, Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes, whose office spent four months probing the matter, said the "investigation is now concluded and no criminality has been found."
Morover, a federal judge ruled that a bill passed by Congress to "defund" ACORN in response to the highly edited videos was unconstitutional because it singled out a specific organization. But by then the damage had already been done as ACORN's finances began to dry up."
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 Strings6
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Posted: 3/26/2010 2:29:33 PM
Earthpuppy,you are too funny sometimes...if they ever come up with a surgical procedure that can change your race i'm sure you will pawn your sandals to get it.
 Got Trance
Joined: 5/23/2007
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Posted: 3/26/2010 6:28:21 PM
There is no mention of The Minute Men in this article......http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/us/17penn.html?_r=3&hp

This is a story about a FORMER Minute Man member.........http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705313477,00.html

Also about another FORMER member ............http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/09/14/nativist-group-founder-admits-contact-with-forde-hours-after-slayings-in-arizona/
About a person not affiliated with the Minute Men.......http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009471018_webbush15.html

Of course the person writing the article has an agenda.....http://immigration.change.org/blog/view/after_issuing_a_call_to_arms_minuteman_group_disbands After digging a bit deeper you will find this .........http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/03/19/armed-mcdc-to-forcefully-engage-border-criminals/ The Minute Man have patrolled with weapons before.

This article ........http://messageboards.aol.com/aol/en_us/articles.php?boardId=551411&articleId=440145&func=6&channel=Member+Guided+News&filterRead=false&filterHidden=true&filterUnhidden=false Is about the e-mail that is also in the above article. Again someone with an agenda can put a lot of spin on a story.

This story.....http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/08/18/arizona-sues-minuteman-group-leader-alleging-property-tax-scam/ is is 7 months old. Where is the follow up.

That was a pretty lame attempt at showing how BAD and EVIL The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps is.

FAIL

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 Strings6
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Posted: 3/26/2010 7:43:11 PM
They do know...that's why they are behind them 100 %...110% in Earth puppy's case.....one is motivated by one world,multi cultural utopian fantasies and the other just hates whitey.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
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Posted: 3/26/2010 7:50:09 PM
I remember hearing the two founders of the group being interviewed on CBC when they were starting this group. They were both adamant that they were going to weed out any yahoos who wanted to join so they'd have an excuse to go hunting Mexicans. Their goal and focus was very much non-violent and simply spot-and-report.

It sounds like they feel that the political situation has gotten worse and that they could no longer ensure their goals were going to be pursued. And maybe that their group was being used for purposes they couldn't defend.
 SAguy_06
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Posted: 3/27/2010 2:18:56 AM
Lets be clear...the minutemen lasted a minute, and didnt effect any change in immigration law or policy.

The minutemen Exploded from the inside out...thats what happens when you get a bunch of HOA presidents together...they choke on their own by-laws and lawsuits.

all the did was play Army... tried out their new Night Scope equiptment and walkie-talkies, and pissed off Texas land owners. There are no more standing Minutemen units on the border of Texas and Mexico. All they have are reinactments of their glory days and pending Lawsuits.

A yahoo with a firearm is not a Patriot.
 barbee1970
Joined: 12/29/2008
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Posted: 3/27/2010 2:49:22 AM
The illegals say they want work, the American dream and all that good crap, but foreigners are moving here, most end up on welfare.
 barbee1970
Joined: 12/29/2008
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Posted: 3/27/2010 2:53:58 AM
They say we're all immigrants, that's bull! I am a Euro mutt! So many nationalities it isn't funny. My Grandpa cam here from Italy, did it the right way. My sis still has his passports. Grandpa worked the coal mines 12 hours a day with NO coffee breaks.

Give me 4 hours I garantee I'll be hollering for a coffee break!
 Strings6
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Posted: 3/27/2010 4:20:31 AM
Frankster,conquest has been going on since time began,Indians fought Indians for hunting rights and land,there are no good guys or bad guys ,only human history.I find it amusing that in this day and age so many feel the need to pass judgement on people who lived long ago in a world they know noting about,judging them by today's standards of comfort and security and lack of struggle,in the right time,place and circumstance you would probably do what you needed to do to survive...you're a young man and the way things are going it's possible that your high ideals and standards will be tested some day to see if there is anything to them other than talk.
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 3/27/2010 5:59:42 AM
"They do know...that's why they are behind them 100 %...110% in Earth puppy's case.....one is motivated by one world,multi cultural utopian fantasies and the other just hates whitey."

Ummm...I'm considered pretty white, of German Swiss and Norwegian immigrants in the 1890s. The Norskies received their share of discrimination in that wave of immigration as did Italians, the Irish and others moving into what were considered established territories for certain ethnic groups. They were considered "guests", men doing the most physical jobs, women working as servants, and pulled to these shores by a labor shortage in the US, much the same as los Indios from the south fill the labor void today. O. E. Rolvaag's "Giants in the Earth" documents that Norwegian immigrant experience in the Dakota Territory, where my people tried to make it on cheaper, harsh lands, many turning back to the steep hills of the Coulee Country. TTOE was correct in the assessment that certain parts of the US are far better suited for First Nations' concentration camps/reservations.

It's not a matter of "hating whitey" as strings tries to define it. It is a matter of basic human decency and being a member of the human "race". It's an empathy for real humans doing what they must, and my upbringing that finds racism offensive. Some folks refuse to understand the motivations, needs, and sacrifice of our southern brethren as they take the journey to fill a labor void and feed their families. I doubt that the racists here could survive a 3 day walk through the desert or would even have the courage to do so, even if their families depended on it.

For all the whining on "taking our jobs", the immigrants and migrants are filling jobs that most racists and nativists would be too proud, too lazy or too weak to do. I have done many of the jobs that are being filled today by southern immigrants filling the void. On our old farm, Byron cannot find local kids willing to do milking and other basic farm work and now hosts two families willing to live through harsh northern winters, sending most of their money home to extended families. I did the fruit picking, seasonal canning industry, meat packing plants, migrant hoe dad tree planting, foundation and stone work, framing and roofing, and many other trades that are now becoming dominated by the work ethic of the new immigrants. Working in the trades yet, I can attest to the aging white work force and the extreme difficulty in finding help from the younger white, lazy generations with an over-inflated sense of privilege, lack of reliability or sense of pride in workmanship. Most white American folks under 30 now consider physical labor beneath them.

This is all about racism, the fear of inevitable multicultural America, after a brief history of white domination. You don't see any sort of Tinyman movement with armed patrols on the northern border. While the economic situation to the north is far better, and most Canadians would consider it a backwards move to head south, I have hosted a couple of "frostbacks" in the past, helping them financially for a few years until they could get legal status.

There will be a growing wave of economic and environmental refugees crossing borders in our over-populated and degraded world. Great Britain is going through a similar reactionary racist change as immigrants and migrants come for jobs and opportunity. Australia is having it's own troubles with the same. Most white colonies' and empires' cultures will have to go through an adjustment as global demographics change. We can either accept that this is the way the world is and has always been but for a burp in history and adapt accordingly, or become violent reactionaries, hiding in our enclaves, armed, scapegoating, and fighting tooth and nail against the new reality.

The Tinymen have been slashing water stashes, done their share of violence thus far, forced immigrants and migrants to cross in harsher environments, upped the death rates of crossings by orders of magnitude, and not wished to address the real policies both here and south of the border that will continue the immigration. It will probably come down to military patrols and ultimately armed drones indiscriminately raining death from the air for those who dare to cross. We could grow up and address the real issues and face the realities of life in this new world disorder. It's easier though for some to have an enemy to scapegoat and play Alamo. "yer either for us whiteys or agin us."

Some history...for those so inclined.
http://www.houstonculture.org/hispanic/conquest.html
Growing death toll on the border.
http://www.eastcountymagazine.org/0809borderangels
 Got Trance
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Posted: 3/27/2010 7:38:43 AM

For all the whining on "taking our jobs", the immigrants and migrants are filling jobs that most racists and nativists would be too proud, too lazy or too weak to do.


Earthpuppy, Do you know the difference between an immigrant and an illegal alien?
An immigrant is here legally. A migrant worker is here legally. If they stay past their allotted time they then become criminals and are here illegally.



The Tinymen have been slashing water stashes, done their share of violence thus far, forced immigrants and migrants to cross in harsher environments, upped the death rates of crossings by orders of magnitude


The Minutemen have done a great job of patrolling our border. When they see an individual or a group of people crossing or have crossed the border they call U.S. Immigration.
Once a person crosses the border into America illegally they have become a criminal. Setting out water for them to drink and giving them a place to stay is aiding and abetting.


the Minute(pr. Mine-oot as in tiny)men


The Tinymen

Another bad attempt at making fun at or discrediting something you do not like.
Do you even know about the Minutemen from our history.
Let me help you.
http://www.ushistory.org/people/minutemen.htm
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 3/27/2010 8:24:09 AM
Comparing today's border vigilantes to the original Minutemen is every bit as ridiculous as comparing todays "Tea Party" nuts to the original Boston Tea Party. It's a nuts and apples comparison.

From their websites, the Minutemen, as you call them, use the terms, "migrants", "immigrants" and "illegal aliens" to describe who they are targeting. These groups have been successful in demonizing latinos, hispanics and indos as THE major cause of economic hardships for workers in the US. That is why we see incidents like those in Shennandoah, Alabama, and around the US where browner people are targeted merely for race.
http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2007/05/agent_says_militia_targeted_hi.html

There have been murders and violence by your movement despite attempts to disown your own, like Forde, after the fact. One of the reason cited for disbanding the unit was because of the fear of violence incited and the legal consequences for the leadership.
 Got Trance
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Posted: 3/27/2010 9:41:44 AM
I was not comparing them. Just debunking your lame attempt at making their name something it is not.

Minute(pr. Mine-oot as in tiny)

By the way, you should look things up and make sure you are correct before you post.
mi·nute (mī-nōōt', -nyōōt'ut,)


There have been murders and violence by your movement

Can you show us any articles that The Minute Man Project is responsible for murders?
Not Former members. Not a member acting out on his own. But the group as a whole.



the Minutemen, as you call them

I call them that because that is the name they have chosen for themselves.
 Strings6
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Posted: 3/27/2010 10:24:11 AM
Earthpuppy,empathy for "real" human beings doing what they must...you tell on yourself again.I suppose Americans like the Minutemen are not real human beings doing what they must to keep third world misery out of their country.

I suppose they are not real human beings who know full well that picking apples will not pay the mortage or the light bill,or send their kids to College...perhaps Granola,tofu and sandles don't cost much but most people have to have a living wage to live.I suppose only real human beings are ignorant enough to beleive that lanquage and culture do not matter...real people and extreme environmental fanatics.

I suppose only real human beings live in jungles and villages,beat their clothes on the rocks and pee in the same water they drink...and "overpopulate" the world by breeding at ten times the rate of unreal human beings...let's hear for all the people who are keeping it real.
 cupani67
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Posted: 3/27/2010 11:36:16 AM
That's okay, they're probably getting ready to meet up with Mike Vanderbeogh over in Virginia for the April 19th "Restore the Constitution" party he's throwing. The scope of it is to meet at Ft. Hunt National Park, Northern VA. and then convoy by boat up the Potomac River to Gravelly Point. Anyone want to be that they will be fully armed with their weapons?

Gravelly Point Park is right on the Potomac, about a mile from the National Mall in DC.

Scope:
4-19-10 rally at Gravelly Point Park, Virginia 10:30AM to 5 pm, although park hours are from 8 AM to dark. Gravelly Point is, based on research so far, the closest carry-legal location to DC, although Ft. Hunt will need to be the initial staging area and rendesvous point. Participants can arrive at Ft. Hunt as early as 9AM to get started, and the main speaking program will begin at 10AM, as the convoys begin going back and forth between Ft. Hunt and Gravelly Point.

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpps/news/dpgoh-mike-vanderboegh-urges-protesters-to-throw-bricks-fc-20100325_6741726
Mike Vanderboegh Urges Protesters to Throw Bricks

Updated: Thursday, 25 Mar 2010, 11:15 AM EDT
Published : Thursday, 25 Mar 2010, 11:15 AM EDT

(CANVAS STAFF REPORTS) - Encouraging people to throw bricks through Democratic Party office windows could bring Alabama blogger Mike Vanderboegh just what he wants: the chance to spread his anti-big-government views.

The blog – which claims to take a "strict constructionist, libertarian point of view" – encouraged readers to throw bricks at the windows of Democratic headquarters across the country, the Montgomery (Ala.) Advertiser reported .

Vanderboegh, 57, is taking credit for someone throwing a brick through the glass doors at the Democratic Committee's Rochester, N.Y., office either late Saturday night or early Sunday. The brick had a note attached that quoted Barry Goldwater's famous statement: "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice."

"I guess that guy's one of ours," Vanderboegh told the newspaper .

His call for brick-throwing is aimed at getting the attention of Democrats before the country breaks into civil war, according to the newspaper.

"If it takes a few bricks and broken windows for people to understand how close we are to widespread violence in this country, then the bricks in the windows will have been worth it," he said.


http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1200904
Right-Wing Militia Leader Advocates Brick Vandalism
In addition to taking responsibility and advocating vandalism, Mike Vanderboegh plans to hold a rally in Virginia on April 19th, the same day that Timothy McVeigh carried out his attack. Certainly nothing wrong with holding an open carry rally, but choosing April 19th while advocating vandalism has the American public wondering what their motivation really is...

http://restoretheconstitution.wordpress.com/about/
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 3/27/2010 2:12:16 PM
xxxDinoxxx
Good points. I am not sure where the $113,000,000,000 annual pot trade from Mexico plays into those figures though, if at all. Because of prohibition in the US our demand is driving the cartels to provide most of the pot in the US and most of the violence across the border. Then there is the Ethanol mandate that US cars run on food that has driven up food prices in Mexico, favored giant Agribusiness and driven yet more farmers off their land there and to the Norte.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/08/12/10945

I also would not count on the littlemen, militias or teabaggers to be content with mere sign holding. While they claim it's all about legal vs, illegal immigration, it's pretty easy to tell from their rallies that it's just really about race, scapegoating and inciting violence as a fear tactic. Dobbs was up in Pennsylvania stirring things up 20 miles away shortly before Ramirez was fatally beat.
http://www.civilrights.org/publications/hatecrimes/escalating-violence.html

minutepeople..keeping it real..good vids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LCL2IqgjSc
teapeople..no differnce.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S38VioxnBaI

BTW..strings..I don't eat granola, hate tofu, and have never owned a pair of sandals (sandles)(more of a steel toe boot at work and hiking boot at home kinda guy, never been a hippy, got my land ethic from real farmers, own guns, and don't fit into your attempts to pigeonhole and label. Nice try though. You illustrate the problem nicely.
 Got Trance
Joined: 5/23/2007
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Posted: 3/27/2010 2:30:10 PM
Man, you are really reaching in deep and scraping the bottom of the barrel to try and make a point.
This video....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LCL2IqgjSc ................
is not The Minutemen.
You think it is cause the videographer used the word.
You are one of those people that will say and use anything you can to make your opinion heard. No matter how far fetched or ridiculous it is.

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