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 bucsgirl
Joined: 5/13/2006
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I don't think there could be a Robin Hood that could top the Kevin Costner version. For so many reasons, the screenplay, the characters...the music.

That was almost 20 years ago, I remember when I saw it the first time. I love the Mel Brooks, Robin Hood Men In Tights, rented it today actually again. And the Disney version, watched it so many times with my kids when they were kiddies.

I do wonder, when it's another remake of...a story we all knew and read. Another movie remake, I bet if I googled, there would be lots of pages of all the Robin Hood movies that have been made.

So what's the deal...are there no scripts...noone writing a script off the many bestseller lists? Yes I'm partial, the Robin Hood with Kevin Costner...that's the best, my personal favorite. Not because it was Kevin Costner..he's been in more than a few movies that are unmemorable.

I never watched, rented or bought the DVD of a movie because...eww Kevin Costner was in it. I just don't think that whatever the studio is who's underwriting this, I don't think it'll be a summer blockbuster. At best it will tie a record to going to DVD. Not the good record.

If any of you own stock in the conglomerate that's financing this bad deal....SELL!
 OMG!WTF!
Joined: 12/3/2007
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Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/9/2010 9:30:44 PM
Maybe sometimes directors "resurrect" old, previously worked stories when they become more applicable to what's happening "in the news" today. Like people are feeling a little pissed that Bernie made off with their retirement funds, or that ceo's get huge bonuses for failing corps. and that bailing out industries seems a little unfair for the average Joe. Maybe Robin Hood will be even more well received now than the last one.

Or sometimes it seems like these old movies are redone to show them in their truest form. Like "Bram Stoker's Dracula", not Copolla's Dracula. Or "Mary Shelley's Frankenstein" not some other woman's version. Or Branaugh's version of Hamlet called "William Shakespeare's Hamlet". All of those film's were redone in the true to the original concept with a slight hint of "never before told in its original form" as I think This Robin Hood movie is intended. The subtitle is "The Untold Story of How The Man Became A Legend".

If an adaptation really gets it right the first time, maybe like "Apocalypse Now", you likely won't see a new and improved version or a "Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness" any time soon even though it would be easily applicable to today's news. Some art is untouchable even in Hollywood.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
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Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/9/2010 10:02:57 PM
I thought the Kevin Costner version was really bad, so the OP and I aren't going to agree.

However, there was another Robin Hood movie that came out the same year with Patrick Bergen and Uma Thurman that was terrific. I think it was Uma's first movie - she played Maid Marion. It had a much smaller budget and unknowns in the cast, but it was a great movie.

Anyway, the recent one is getting slammed by the critics, so I'll wait for DVD. My fave was the one with Sean Connery and Audrey Hepburn. I'm holding out for the movie version of Rocket Robin Hood. But they would have to use the original theme song or I'd picket the movie.
 nipoleon
Joined: 12/27/2005
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Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/10/2010 3:07:41 AM
Nobody's ever topped Erroll Flynn's classic " Adventures of Robin Hood ". It's still the best overall Robin Hood movie ever made.

Unlike Mallory's, " L' Mort dArtur " about King Arthur, there has never been a definitive Robin Hood book. The story of Robin Hood is more just a collection of myths and tales borrowed and expunged over the centuries.
While there really was a 5th century British commander named Arthur, no one has ever positively connected Robin Hood with any real historical person.

I personally believe the myth of Robin Hood originated as an early form of the " boogeyman ". He was that ill defined, monster-man used to scare children and wealthy people from going out alone at night.
" Don't go riding in the forest alone, or else Robin Hood will get you and steal your money ".
When ever a rich guy got robbed the peasants would unanimously claim Robin Hood did it.
 Ezzee
Joined: 7/26/2004
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Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/10/2010 7:23:50 AM
Well, I'll always be the most partial to Mel Brooks "Robin Hood: Men In Tights," but that is probably because I love satire and movies that aren't afraid to take shots at "taboo" stuff. One of the reasons why "Dogma" is probably one of my favorite movies of all time.

But I do agree, I don't see the need to remake movies over and over and over again. It is kind of ridiculous. It makes me think of all the remakes they have done of Titanic. Seriously, how many times are they going to make a movie about it. We all know how the movie end. The ship sinks. Robin Hood, any version thereof, is probably going to end the same way too. So why make it?
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
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Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/10/2010 11:20:18 AM
I've been going through this for years now - it's generational. I started noticing classic horror remakes started coming out for movies I liked from the late 60's and most of the 70s. I'd say only 2 or 3 were worth watching to me - they either changed the story altogether and I felt like they betrayed the movie or they did a carbon copy and it was a lesser version of the original.

Then I just realised that as I was coming of age - everything that happened in that time, including music, movies, fashion and television shows were going to be the best ever to me because of the actors, the singers, the feel and the era. All entertainment around you when you hit puberty is just brilliant to you, even though at the time the hormones made you angsty and you thought you hated everything.

Once I realized that, I then remembered my mom and her friends making fun of things I liked with my friends when I was young - which were at that time all recycled things they liked from their childhoods. I specifically remember hearing quite a few times, "that song's been done before/they remade that from some black and white film in the 50's" and sure enough they'd dig up some old footage or song we thought was brand new.

OOT I never did like Robin Hood in any form including the Disney Version, and I wasn't a huge fan of Peter Pan either, so they can remake em all they want. But

*shrug*
 Lint Spotter
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Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/10/2010 1:48:35 PM

If any of you own stock in the conglomerate that's financing this bad deal....SELL!
I agree with you wholeheartedly... and I'm a Crowe fan in a huge way! I just see no reason for the film industry to keep milking dead cows... very, very tiring...
 FL CO
Joined: 12/23/2008
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Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/11/2010 7:20:04 AM
As a bow hunter, I'm interested in seeing it simply from an archery point of view. I'll have to wait for reviews before deciding if I'm going to see it in theater or not. Of course I never went to see Avatar in theater and it got great reviews.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 9
Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/11/2010 8:36:57 AM
OP, you're being a critic without even having the benefit of having viewed the movie yet. Like with all other critics, I pay no attention and draw my own conclusions from my own personal observations of things. I will with this too.
 Bookbelle
Joined: 10/24/2008
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Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/11/2010 3:49:51 PM
Meh, I thought the Kevin Costner version was OK as a nice family film, but I am picky about its flaws. Like casting an actor who couldn't do an English/northern accent to play Robin Hood himself. Or why, if Robin comes up to Nottingham from Dover, he detours tens of miles up the country to Hadrian's Wall before going back down to Nottingham. (Doesn't make sense geographically, especially as they were on foot.)

I've not seen this new Robin Hood, so I can't really comment on it.

One thing I must say though, is when is someone going to make a film of Robin Hood that actually fits with the book? You know, where Robin doesn't marry Marion, and shoots an arrow and says to bury him where it lands. A film doesn't have to have the classic "happy ending" to be good, you know.
 bucsgirl
Joined: 5/13/2006
Msg: 11
Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/14/2010 7:35:31 PM
I'm not a "fan" per se of any particular actor/actress. I have my own favorites, only because I've watched many of their performances, body of work, per se. But I can tell someone why if there's a movie they're in, I'd tend to watch it because I admire their talent.

Pick anyone, I'll assume that you read or see interviews, even Oscar winners...directors...they have films they're not that proud of.

There are films that Russell Crowe has appeared in that I LIKE! I own Gladiator, it was a great film and he gave a rave performance. There have been other films that Russell Crowe starred in...I don't get it when someone says about an actor...."I just don't like him/her".

Like them...you don't know them, I am also a creative person, educated, trained in many venues, and I have my personal tastes, as everyone does. I put that aside, and I can recognize and respect talent. It's not personal.

I've had people I've worked with and for, that well...I wouldn't want to ask them out for a drink or invite them to a cookout at my house, but I respect their abilities.

I read this thread again, and sincerely I thank everyone who posted. If we all liked the same things or thought alike...it's be a pretty boring world to live in!

I'm not a "fan" of Kevin Costner or Russell Crowe, as many actors, they've appeared in films that...well laid a lump of coal...haha. I posted this topic, because from what I saw, this will be that lump of coal for RC...and I do read the news. Cannes film festival, his interviews, not trying to prevent anyone from going to see it...but RC got so ticked, he walked out on an interview. The film has been panned, I'm like most of you, I don't pay attention that much, I'll scan the reviews, but if I want to go see a movie, I'll go SEE the movie! And make up my own mind.

As to tanking the stock...geez, that was a JOKE. Don't sell your stock, but it's not looking good for this movie. If I bet, which I don't...ehh often, it'll be in video before July.

The Kevin Costner Robin Hood, I did think about it, and there are memories associated with it. That may have something to do with why I favor it. I DO think that, whether it's a movie, a song...they trigger memories, we remember where we were, who we were with...personally it does do that.

I won't bore you with it...my kids know. So, not a movie critic at all, and not dissing Russell Crowe at all, Ridley Scott...crap, I admire his work. Just like any one of us, there are days we go to work and thinkgs we may "produce" that we're not that proud of. For most of us, it doesn't make headlines...or is something anyone can google.

That's the thing about creative people (myself being one...) when you put it out there as your work, for anyone and everyone to see, it's extreme exposure.

Dustin Hoffman "laid one"...how fast did "Ishtar" go to video, and who rented it? Didn't tank his career. CRAP, it's just a movie.


 NotGorshkovAgain
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Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/14/2010 8:40:38 PM
Alan Doyle, the lead singer/songwriter for Great Big Sea, is playing Alan A'Dale. That by itself means it's going to be a good'un.

Newfies ROCK! :-)
 Tah,
Joined: 11/18/2008
Msg: 13
Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/14/2010 9:07:10 PM
Cate blanchette is so going to own this!!!!
Ridley and Russel will be inspired to do there best work to keep up with beautiful Cate!

If anyone's expecting a traditional storytelling, please look away now.........shall be a traditional ridley scott's looking underneath the myth or even threw the Myth.........
 cotter
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Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/14/2010 9:10:26 PM

Nobody's ever topped Erroll Flynn's classic " Adventures of Robin Hood ". It's still the best overall Robin Hood movie ever made.

Sorry, but no, no, no ... the animated version with Robin as a fox and Maid Marian as a Vixen was the best ... sigh.

Robin Hood, any version thereof, is probably going to end the same way too. So why make it?
For the same reason that oldies music is often revived with a totally different
singer (or musician). It never gets old and just as we have different strokes for different folks, different actors/actresses
appeal to different folks.

We all know how Romeo and Juliet ends, but the Leonard Whiting (Romeo) and Olivia Hussey (Juliet) version
just can't be topped.

If the OP likes a certain version of the Tale of Robin Hood ... she's entitled to her opinion. I've seen
every version of Robin Hood that's mentioned in this thread and we all saw what my opinion was.

I'm sure I'll find someone to go see this version with. I don't like to go to the movies alone because if there's a scary scene, I have no one's lap to jump into ...

Of course, what would I know? I probably read "Little Women" more than 200 times and only like one version of the movie made ... the one in which June Allyson played Jo March in 1949.
 Stray__Cat
Joined: 7/12/2006
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Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/14/2010 9:38:46 PM
I just can't take men in tights seriously.
I like Russell Crowe as an actor and have seen most of his movies.
But...
A previous girl made me sit thru the Kevin Costner Robin Hood.
So I think I've suffered enuff and paid my dues.
I can take a pass on this one.
 bucsgirl
Joined: 5/13/2006
Msg: 16
Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/14/2010 9:41:56 PM
"Cate blanchette is so going to own this!!!!"

I'm very much an admirer of Cate Blanchette. So many great performances, and in films that werent' that commercially successful.

Cate can't "own" this....she'll just get through it, it's not her film, her script. You have no clue what you're talking about, the impetus was the bank IE MONEY is on Russell Crowe and Ridley Scot...don't you read anything.

It's a tank, it's been panned, thumbs down. Google it, it will be in in in video before the end of July. Frankly, from what I've read, there is nothing positive about,. considering the source, which are the independent critics, that's the only record the movie may have the possibility of setting. Of straight to DVD, funny I wasn't the first to say so.
 Tah,
Joined: 11/18/2008
Msg: 17
Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/14/2010 10:04:28 PM

You have no clue what you're talking about

Its irrelevant if i do or do not(and i possibly dont) but what is relevant is I didnt throw out personal insults and uneducated narrow minded style judegements towards a poster i didnt agree with!

On Russel crowe ever see romper stomper? your type of mentality perhaps?
 Bookbelle
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Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/15/2010 6:36:57 PM
I saw this Russel Crowe version this week. Great action film, awesome soundtrack too in my opinion. It just worked.
I did get slightly annoyed when the King was killed on the battlefield in the though... slight historical inaccuracy, as he was actually poisoned.

But yeah, I enjoyed it. And this one's apparently just a prequel.
 Super Ryan
Joined: 9/15/2007
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Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/15/2010 7:53:03 PM
The legend of Robin Hood is such a great story that will, and should, be told for eons to come. Just because you like the Costner version (which was good but had a shitty soundtrack), is no reason to not make another one.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing this version as it has a different take on the "stealing from the rich, to give to the poor". Unlike all other versions I have ever seen, this version makes the stealing from the rich about the Magna Carta and how the peasants were finally given rights the were only offered to the rulling class before.


I did get slightly annoyed when the King was killed on the battlefield in the though... slight historical inaccuracy, as he was actually poisoned.


I don't know where you are getting your information, but King Richard I was killed by an arrow to the shoulder, causing gangreen. He did live long enough to forgive the boy who shot him, and rewarded him with 100 shillings and his freedom.
Maybe you are thinking of Hamlet's father?

As for the people who think this will be a box office bomb and be on DVD by July.
I seriously doubt it. It's Robin Hood, people love that story and will flock to the theater to see, regardless of what the critics think. And because it is Robin Hood the critics will be harsher on it, since they have tons of movies for direct comparison.
I expect this will be the number 2 movie for the summer behind Iron Man II.
Remember, most people don't go to the movies to critique the acting or directing. They go to be told a story and be distracted from their own lives.

And just for you Halftime:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MfisiGqtEM
 Bookbelle
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Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 5/15/2010 8:27:20 PM

I don't know where you are getting your information, but King Richard I was killed by an arrow to the shoulder, causing gangreen. He did live long enough to forgive the boy who shot him, and rewarded him with 100 shillings and his freedom.
Maybe you are thinking of Hamlet's father?


Whoops, sorry about that. It's been a long night with 2 fire alarms... yep, Hamlet's father was probably what I was thinking. Tiredness does stupid stuff to my brain.
 IgorFrankensteen
Joined: 6/29/2009
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Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 6/1/2010 9:13:03 PM
As long as we're correcting historic misunderstandings, the Magna Carta wasn't anything to do with PEASANT rights either. It was about RICH GUYS having rights relative to royalty.
I liked the movie pretty much. I'm a Robin Hood fan from way back, having lived in London as a child, and gotten my first taste of that story from it's homeland. Zorro is the same story, "Spanishified. " The same thing as Tarzan, when you get down to it.
I also still like the old Errol Flynn one from the 30's, even though it was only BARELY not a cartoon, and had horrible anachronisms throughout. I was excited by the IDEA of the Costner film, but hated the product. Too much of an effort by the script writers trying to put a new twist on the old story WITHOUT ever bothering to crack a book.
Someone who was of a mind, could do a Graduate paper or even a book on the evolution of Robin Hood films and stories, and how each version, including the original story itself, was a reflection more on the times it was created during, than of the true facts of the days it was ABOUT.
 Stray__Cat
Joined: 7/12/2006
Msg: 22
Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 6/8/2010 9:16:14 PM
Well I'd like to see Mr Crowe do a sequel to "Master and Commander".
Damn good movie and historically accurate in the time period.
No guys wearing tights or skirts in it either.

It was based on a series of books written by Patrick O'Brian(now deceased)
Great books and he wrote about 18 in the series.
so it would be plenty of movies to make.

I mean geez, Hollywood is so brain dead as to writing original stuff,
they are now making movies on comic books, and doing remakes of movies based on remakes of comic books.
Lame.
 canoga77
Joined: 5/25/2008
Msg: 23
Russell Crowe's doing Robin Hood. I know it's a great story, classic literature.
Posted: 6/10/2010 5:16:16 PM
I think Russell Crowe is an overrated and arrogant actor. I read that in the film he plays Robin Hood with an Irish accent. I don't care to see his performance.
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