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 just-here-to-chat
Joined: 7/4/2011
Msg: 1
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My soon to be 11 year old daughter has mental illness history on her father's side. The biggest issue for him was sleep, my ex could sleep forever.. However he decided long time ago not to be involved with my daughter. We haven't heard from him in 8 yrs.. His side of the family also don't have much to do with us either.. On his mom's side there is alot of mental illness including his mom whom passed away 3 yrs ago. I always had an open door to my ex and his family but most times dealing with people who are mentally not all there is very stressful and at times I did have to stop contact. Especially with his mom, altho I wanted a special bond with grandma and my daughter, she made it very difficult at times.. I believe alot of the mental illness in that family was caused by the enviroment they were raised in..

My daughter has had no contact with my ex in 8 yrs like I said, and no contact with no one from his side in about 3 years. Part of the reason is we moved to a different province...

My biggest concern is she ssleeps like my ex, always has.. She can sleep and sleep.. School days, I need to give her 1hr and a half to get up and moving, weekends she'll go to bed at 930 and I'll wake her between 11am and noon!!! Sometimes earlier depending what our plans are.. I have took her to doctor, they aren't too concerned.. So should I worry? Anybody else have mental illness in their family?
 808md
Joined: 5/24/2010
Msg: 2
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Posted: 7/14/2011 2:21:24 PM
This is not the place to seek medical advice. If you are concerned, get a second opinion from a heath care professional. Also, try to get a better understanding of the alleged metal illnesses on the paternal side of her family.
 statesborocookie
Joined: 7/8/2011
Msg: 3
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Posted: 7/15/2011 8:50:52 PM
OP...I think you are wise to keep an eye out for any red flags since mental illness runs in the family. I'm not sure what illnesses you are referring to. Anyway, be observant but don't try to find a problem that isn't there. In most cases, there are multiple things going on if someone is experiencing a mental condition. If being able to sleep long hours is the the only issue present and she seems fine otherwise (socially, motivationally, eating normal, etc.), then I think the doctor is right about not being concerned. However, if you start seeing other signs that something could be going on, then take her to the doctor again. Just be careful not create a problem that isn't there. Hope that helps!
 cardesi
Joined: 8/5/2010
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Posted: 7/15/2011 11:51:53 PM
If I were you I would be very persistent most doctors will not be afended if you seek a second opionon and see a specialest! you will have to do home work as well surf the net and find simular symtoms and ask for a specialest to look into it i had a friend that was like this and it will be very hard to carry on with school ect!!! there is deafenetly something wrong that can be treated most doctors think people are just plain lazy and tell you to tuff it out when it can be treated and cured with something like proper diet some foods are toxic to the system in alot of young kids and you would be amazed! or it could be a few other things that can and should be looked at!
 808md
Joined: 5/24/2010
Msg: 5
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Posted: 7/16/2011 1:04:46 AM
If I were you I would be very persistent most doctors will not be afended if you seek a second opionon and see a specialest! you will have to do home work as well surf the net and find simular symtoms and ask for a specialest to look into it i had a friend that was like this and it will be very hard to carry on with school ect!!! there is deafenetly something wrong that can be treated most doctors think people are just plain lazy and tell you to tuff it out when it can be treated and cured with something like proper diet some foods are toxic to the system in alot of young kids and you would be amazed! or it could be a few other things that can and should be looked at!



Now this is solid advice. Google the symptoms yourself because most doctors are plain lazy.
And yes, hereditary diseases are caused by food…that’s why we call them hereditary.

But what do I know? I get “afended” easily and tell everybody to “tuff” it out.
 cardesi
Joined: 8/5/2010
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Posted: 7/16/2011 4:00:00 AM
88md==Now this is solid advice. Google the symptoms yourself because most doctors are plain lazy.
And yes, hereditary diseases are caused by food…that’s why we call them hereditary.

But what do I know? I get “afended” easily and tell everybody to “tuff” it out.. ..... Okay Dr mouth! I came here to address the OP! not you some pretend half wit!!! i dont care what you have to say! i came here to help the poster out and you come here to run your mouth! do you think it makes you look good to me your just a punk coming here cause your to chicken in the real world next time you address the OP not me because i dont care what you think !!! if you have something to say to help the OP then go for it! if you want to act like you know everything and every one else dont! then you are a true coward human slug! to make this about you! when a child needs help! come on get over your self!!! getting a second doctor wrong!
 just-here-to-chat
Joined: 7/4/2011
Msg: 7
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Posted: 7/16/2011 11:12:37 AM
Thanks guys... The main illness that is in that family is Bi Polar, and persanality disorders. To be honest my ex was diagnosed with everything from sizophriena to borderline personality disorder.. The sad thing is he has several doctors who change their minds and diagnose him with something else.. So I don't really know what he truely has..

My daughter always been a good sleeper, at 5 we found out she had an under active thyroid which was making her tired and not hungary 24/7 since then he has been on a pill that produces whatever hormoness she needs for her thyroid ad shes not tired 24/7 anymore.. But if I let her she will sleep from 930pm til noon .. She always been a sound sleeper..
 carolann0308
Joined: 12/9/2006
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Posted: 7/16/2011 11:52:03 AM
Find a pediatrician that specializes in thyroid issues, make sure she gets plenty of exercise and is on a healthy diet. I would limit chocolate, caffeine and any junk foods. At her age allow her what her physician advises for sleep and no more.
Do not allow her to decide how long she spends in bed daily, and talk to her teachers about her lack of self motivation at this stage you can correct this.
 just-here-to-chat
Joined: 7/4/2011
Msg: 9
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Posted: 7/16/2011 2:45:23 PM
We were just at the her specialist, and her dose is fine according to him, she is growing, her weight is at the normal weight for her height and size.. I am a small lady, 5ft 1 and 120lbs. She's 4'2 and 67lbs.

Once she's up and has her bath she's fine, she's very active, she played baseball this past spring, she is in swimming, she bowls and loves to be outside on her skateboard. It's just now its summer and even before on weekends she can sleep through a bomb or a wild party.. I wake her up on school days at 7 to get her up and ready for 830, he just needs that time. On weekends and now its summer if I would allow it, she would ssleep till the afternoon!! Which usually I don't allow, 10 am is the very latest I will let her sleep in. It just worries me because her bio Dad was the same way. .. He could sleep for days..

I was smart and sswitched her swimming lessons to the morning so sshe has to get up.. She will have Fri-Sun to sleep in if I let her..
 casey0413
Joined: 10/27/2009
Msg: 10
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Posted: 7/17/2011 4:38:21 PM
"And yes, hereditary diseases are caused by food…that’s why we call them hereditary."

No...we call them hereditary because they are genetic in origin.
 808md
Joined: 5/24/2010
Msg: 11
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Posted: 7/17/2011 4:49:23 PM

And yes, hereditary diseases are caused by food…that’s why we call them hereditary."

No...we call them hereditary because they are genetic in origin.


I hope you are the only one who missed the sarcastic nature of my reply.
 casey0413
Joined: 10/27/2009
Msg: 12
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Posted: 7/17/2011 6:35:21 PM
Hahahaha!!! Oops. I clicked on your profile and read that you are a pediatrician. Apologies.

We are having a discussion in another thread about the miscommunications that happen online because of the difficulty in conveying sarcasm. I use the rolley eyes smiley if I'm being tongue in cheek because that makes it pretty clear. Of course, not everyone is into the smileys. :)
 LoveYouNaples
Joined: 7/1/2011
Msg: 13
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Posted: 7/21/2011 6:40:18 PM
As the son of a mother with mental illness, I feel compelled to respond to your post. Since I was a young boy (11; I am 45 now), I knew about my mother's issues. Thirty-plus years ago, particularly for an 11-year old, mental illness was a character defect. People were ostracized, like divorce. By the way, my parents divorced at that time. So how do think an 11-year old with a "crazy" divorced mom felt?

I will get to the point. For the last thirty years, I have been awaiting the time when I would go "crazy". It hasn't happened. I have focused on every little bought of sadness thinking this was the depression of manic depression that was my mother's gift to me. But if I look back objectively, my bouts of depression were really warranted. Bad things happen and we have the right to be upset about them.

Do not label your daughter and do not let your child label herself as being mentally ill just because your ex is mentally ill. Get an opinion and a second opinion like the good doc suggested, or even a third opinion.
 singleinok
Joined: 7/25/2009
Msg: 14
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Posted: 7/22/2011 9:12:50 PM
I read somewhere that kids need between 10-12 hours of sleep anyway, so I wouldn't be concerned. Mine can sleep like that too, but we get up at 6am during the week and they go to bed at 9, fall asleep by 10 or so. On the weekends if they wanna sleep longer, I'm cool with it. Long day for little kids
 RubyWaxxx
Joined: 10/23/2010
Msg: 15
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Posted: 7/22/2011 9:29:42 PM
^^I agree, 12 hours sleep for an 11-year-old is certainly not excessive, but it's up there.
I'm assuming your ex slept excessively when he was in the depressive stage of his mental illness. If this is what is worrying you, then watch her mood swings.
Also, look at her diet. It's so important at any stage, but even more so in childhood and adolescence. Are you giving her plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables? Is her sugar intake too high? This all plays a part in depression.
Another reason for her sleeping too long could be that she has sleep apnea. She's waking up a lot during the night - maybe just for a few seconds - but it's disturbing her sleep patterns. Does she still have her tonsils?
 Easygoin68a
Joined: 5/17/2011
Msg: 16
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Posted: 7/25/2011 7:27:55 PM
808md - solid and prudent advice....

so many factors affect a mental illness. a medical professional, who has the resources to take a thorough history and physical, along with additional assessing tests - will be the best person to take direction from... taking advice from here - would be like accepting treatment that was written about in the Reader's Digest...

I have my fingers crossed for you, and hope for the best for you and especially your little one:)
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