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 kohavah
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I think it may be possible that some of the challenges face individuals in communicating with others may be that the same words can have different meanings to different people. This can make it hard to come to a meeting of the minds on various topics when we are thinking of more than one meaning to the same word.

Can anyone give me in their own words, the difference between the words philosophy, science and religion?
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
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What Is The Difference Between A Philosophy, Science and Religion?
Posted: 2/18/2012 6:35:13 PM

Can anyone give me in their own words, the difference between the words philosophy, science and religion?

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 kohavah
Joined: 12/31/2011
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Posted: 2/18/2012 6:44:10 PM
I tried to put a thread about unjust law enforcement but it got aborted. I think this one should go through abortion too. I am already bored by it.
 nipoleon
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What Is The Difference Between A Philosophy, Science and Religion?
Posted: 2/19/2012 1:20:07 AM
If life were a football game then philosophy would be the game strategy, science would be the technique of playing the game, and religion would be the fans devotion to a particular team.
 Tah,
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Posted: 2/19/2012 1:35:33 AM
I can describe science and religon as both are very similar..religous leaders have the use of bibles down to a fine science to achieve there aim..

Science is itself a religous beast as the scientist uses faith and belief in his methods to achieve what he seeks to...

but philosophy is something again and i fail at this point to relate it to this subject...
 MikeWM
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What Is The Difference Between A Philosophy, Science and Religion?
Posted: 2/19/2012 3:22:26 AM
Perspective

A religion can be both a science and a philosophy to somebody

A philosophy can be seen as both a science and a religion by somebody

And a science can be treated as though its a religion and a philosophy


So depending on the person they can be pretty much a holy trinity of inseperable parts of a whole

Darwinisn, Atheism, Eugenics, Creationism, Eugenics, Scientology, socialism, communism and even capitalism are all just some examples where people merge all three into one
 shepk1
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Posted: 2/19/2012 4:35:54 AM
Philosophy is the school of thought that seeks to answer the big questions about why we're here, etc. It's seeking the answers to metaphysical, epistemological, and ethical questions.

Religion is a comforting thing for many people, giving them so called answers to the questions that philosophy asks.

Science is probably the most misunderstood of the three. Science is nothing more than a process by which we can observe and define the natural world around us. It is a process of observing natural phenomena, gathering data about said phenomena, developing hypotheses from that data, and then testing the hypotheses in controlled environments. When a hypothesis tests successfully against a large number of experiments by a number of different scientists and sometimes different scientific disciplines, it becomes accepted as a scientific theory, e.g., gravity, the theory of relativity, quantum physics, evolution, etc.
 part deux
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Posted: 2/19/2012 8:40:44 AM
Philosophy is how you feel about something, science is what you can observe about something, and religion is what you believe about something despite what you observe or feel.
Science adapts and changes in light of new information, it is never dogmatic.
 kohavah
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Posted: 2/19/2012 12:00:51 PM
From my understanding , a philosophy is an individual's personal system of ideals and beliefs. It is a compilation of what they believe at that particular moment in time. One's philosophy has give to it, meaning that it has the ability to transform and change as one's experience and wisdom guides the mind in a better and more perfected path.

A science from my comprehension is merely a study, a course of instruction in a particular area. Such as economic science or learning, domestic science or learning, ethical science or learning etc. Therefore a science is merely a field of study.

Now religion, is where I have been taught a different meaning than most. From my instruction one's religion is merely their philosophy(personal system of beliefs)or ethics in action, or what they would desire if their personal philosophy and ethics were allowed to be in action, or alive.This is natural or wholesome religion.

A natural church or sanctuary is where ever you live. You are your own personal instructor in ethics. This is not the responsiblilty of anyone outside of your elders and peers. This is not the responsibility of the governing body, the social club(current churches)or the education system outside of your own personal kin or friends. This is known as self governing, self control, self respect for one's self and for ones kin and friends.

The situation today has turned philosophy, ethics, science, justice, education and religion into counterfeits who wrongly identify themselves with these natural names, and which are merely dangerous mafia business enterprises. In the un natural world, these words stand for perverted systems of unjustified punishment and obscene reward systems. Every crime imaginable is now done in the distorted names of philosophy, ethics, science, justice, education, science and religion, whose natural and wholesome applications are the opposite in meaning to what they have been identified with in this world.
 FrogO_Oeyes
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Posted: 2/19/2012 8:52:24 PM
"A" philosophy is a particular set of methodologies and assumptions made in order to answer greater questions or arrive at some form of universal "truths".

Science is a particular philosophy which attempts to arrive at cause and effect relationships for the natural world, by observing, testing, and ruling out explanations which are demonstrably impossible.

Religion is a body of beliefs held to be true regardless of objective evidence [though not necessesarily contrary to it], and associated practices. In these respects, religions are philosophies - provided one pays more than lip service to them.


From my understanding , a philosophy is an individual's personal system of ideals and beliefs. It is a compilation of what they believe at that particular moment in time. One's philosophy has give to it, meaning that it has the ability to transform and change as one's experience and wisdom guides the mind in a better and more perfected path.

A science from my comprehension is merely a study, a course of instruction in a particular area. Such as economic science or learning, domestic science or learning, ethical science or learning etc. Therefore a science is merely a field of study.

These would seem to be more or less valid definitions - just not the definitions implied by the original question and thread topic. The thread topic implies a comparison of broader and more inclusive definitions, not a comparison-by-specific-example. For instance, a science is not a science because it is a particular field of study, but because of the methodology applied to that study. It's only science if it proceeds to explanations by gradually eliminating the impossible.


Now religion, is where I have been taught a different meaning than most. From my instruction one's religion is merely their philosophy(personal system of beliefs)or ethics in action, or what they would desire if their personal philosophy and ethics were allowed to be in action, or alive.This is natural or wholesome religion.

I don't think this is correct. It sounds like a confabulation of faith (which is personal belief), and religion (which is an organized doctrine).


The situation today has turned philosophy, ethics, science, justice, education and religion into counterfeits who wrongly identify themselves with these natural names, and which are merely dangerous mafia business enterprises. In the un natural world, these words stand for perverted systems of unjustified punishment and obscene reward systems.

I don't think you have any idea [or substantiation] of what you're talking about.


Every crime imaginable is now done in the distorted names of philosophy, ethics, science, justice, education, science and religion,

Has something changed? This has ALWAYS been true. Ever heard of Emperor Nero? The Sheriff of Nottingham? MacBeth?


in the distorted names of philosophy, ethics, science, justice, education, science and religion, whose natural and wholesome applications are the opposite in meaning to what they have been identified with in this world.

"natural and wholesome" - completely subjective point of view.
philosophy and science - objective fields, especially the latter.
ethics - a very subjective field, but one with a fair amount of objective agreement
justice - presumably objective by definition, somewhat subjective in practice, and potentially highly subjective in some situations.
education - far too variable for me to be comfortable generalizing. In the secular West, I would generalize as objective. In religious circles, I would characterize it as some combination of objectivity and subjectivity. Very hit and miss.

All in all, none of these fields really have any relation to the characterization of "natural and wholesome". That characterization is no more appropriate [or inappropriate] now than in past. Subjective characterizations have no relevance to objective pursuits, while fields like ethics and justice should be immune to your characterizing if they are to be functional. That is, applying some arbitrary concept of natural wholesomeness to science, philosophy, ethics, or justice would have the effect of destroying what each of these pursuits is intended to achieve. You wish to be supreme censor for all that is "good". If education is supposed to lead to learning and increased awareness, knowledge, and understanding, then applying an arbitrary natural wholesomeness to education has the effect of stifling all of these goals. Oops - can't let you learn about THAT because it isn't wholesome.

Don't smoke the glue.
 CressB
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What Is The Difference Between A Philosophy, Science and Religion?
Posted: 2/19/2012 9:07:35 PM
^^^^^^^good post
 kohavah
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What Is The Difference Between A Philosophy, Science and Religion?
Posted: 2/19/2012 9:28:43 PM
"There is no teaching until the pupil is brought into the same state or principle in which you are; a transfusion takes place; he is you, and you are he." This statement was last recognized by an author by the name of Ralph Waldo Emerson, even though I am aware of many versions of this statement long before his arrival

The point being that it is quite impossible to have a meeting of the minds until the minds have had the same education and experiences. At least that seems to be the only way that the people on this sphere learn. It is not my choice for teaching others, but it appears to be the best way for individuals to learn and understand in this world.
 FrogO_Oeyes
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Posted: 2/19/2012 9:39:00 PM
That's not teaching. It's indoctrination. A student need not parrot the teacher, nor learn all that the teacher offers, in order to learn and be educated. All that is required is that she learn SOMEthing. The very fact that the vast majority of students learn from MANY teachers, not just one, means they will always be highly unlikely to be "brought into the same state or principle in which you are". More importantly, if all a student does is copy the teacher, then society as a whole does not progress, since no new information will be brought to light this way. Only by exceeding what has been taught by one teacher can progress be made.
 kohavah
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Posted: 2/19/2012 10:19:44 PM
Frog you did not understand the meaning of what Emerson and others was attempting to explain. He said that sometimes others have to walk in the shoes of the teacher who has suffered, because they could not be instructed by mere words alone.

Sometimes it takes personal suffering because we are hideous snobs, who find pleasure in being discourteous and disrespectful to others as we pretend to know so very much, in order that we may hide the fact that we know so very little.

Including something which should be so simple, and to which we can not even agree, the meanings of the words philosophy, science, and religion, which will help us to understand the differences between the three.
 60to70
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Posted: 2/19/2012 10:28:04 PM
this then goes without any further remark. What teachers offer you is the material. What you do with the material does matter. What you know collides with your monetary resources and what you know is held close to your heart, your soul. What then happens is a liftetime of achieving not greatness but a substantial understanding that knowledge is indeed power but reality is a measure of where your bank account resides. After that education is only valuable in the fact that it gives you the knowledge of reading, writing and arthmetic...or mathematics. Knowing is not always an insurance that "by one teacher can progress be made." You can be very well read and unfortunately economically bare naked strapped. But...so what, eh? I never felt the educational system identified where my true talents resided. And parents...well....they were too busy raising children, working and wondering in their eighties why the frogs are disappearing, while the mother prayed. Fathers never bought into religion until the very bitter end. Philosophy, Science and Religion were there in a nutshell. And it also mattered what school district and region you originated from. Some were pretty friggen bad. ahow.
 veevee
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Posted: 2/20/2012 1:31:41 AM
Well, a philosophy is you talking to yourself about things.
A science is when you ask others to examine your thoughts.
A religion is where you ask for invisible guidance and sometimes imagine that they responded in your head alone or decide to follow rules that a group has put together as your "last stand".
Each type can ask for outside discussions but those are the basics.
 Kings_Knight
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Posted: 2/20/2012 6:08:06 AM
@ Nr 1 ...


" ... Can anyone give me in their own words, the difference between the words philosophy, science and religion? ... "


Of the three, religion is the costliest.
 david_e87
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Posted: 2/20/2012 7:52:42 AM

Can anyone give me in their own words, the difference between the words philosophy, science and religion?


Philosophy when broken down literally means "The Love of Wisdom".

To me, Science is the Study of that Wisdom.

And Religion or Spirituality means the Practice of that Wisdom.
 kohavah
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Posted: 2/20/2012 8:10:41 AM
Dremmett, I really like your how your definitions are short, simple and full of Wisdom.
 david_e87
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Posted: 2/21/2012 11:56:03 PM
Thanks kohavah
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Posted: 2/22/2012 2:37:00 AM
I was going to write a book about the meaning of life...but then I died.
 part deux
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Posted: 2/22/2012 7:24:10 AM
Science is the study of the observable, therfore it cannot be the study of philosophy.
 david_e87
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Posted: 2/22/2012 11:57:56 AM
Observing is how one gains Wisdom.
 veevee
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Posted: 2/22/2012 2:27:36 PM
Observing is how one gains Peeper status.
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Posted: 2/22/2012 2:46:41 PM
Wisdom is also gained by listening, experiencing,reading etc, not only by observing.
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