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 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 4
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I remember when candidate Obama said he would go after Obama even if he was in Pakistan. Every Republican said that this clearly demonstrated that he was unfit for the job. To even suggest such a thing was blasphemy. So it's clear that with a Republican in the White House, bin Laden would still be happily reading porn in his compound.
 red_fir
Joined: 11/21/2011
Msg: 7
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Posted: 4/30/2012 6:25:35 PM
bin Laden would still be happily reading porn in his compound.


Umm...do you have any evidence this is not the case?

Just being devils advocate ........
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 4/30/2012 6:46:22 PM


Republicans are liars and worst

Don't be silly I watch fox news and listen to Rush everyday and they speak nothing but the truth . I start preaching it after i hear it on fox.


LMFAO at tdh ...


Every Republican said that this clearly demonstrated that he was unfit for the job.
Anything President Obama accomplishes is considered a "failure" ... because it shows the Republicans have failed at obstructionism ... it means they have failed to make the president look bad.

I don't think we should celebrate OBL's death, but I do think it's fair to point out that this president got the job done without killing any Americans ... without having to "shock and awe" anyone ... without having to drop any "dirty DU bombs" ... without having to invade a sovereign nation.
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
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Posted: 4/30/2012 7:33:25 PM

without having to invade a sovereign nation.


You don't consider Pakistan a sovereign nation? Landing commandos by helicopter in another country without its permission to kill someone is an invasion of its territory in plain violation of international law. Pakistan would have been foolish to use force against the invaders, even if it had known about them. But it still would have been completely within its rights. Or maybe you overlook that kind of thing as long as Jews weren't behind it.


Why shouldn't President Obama take advantage of one of his greatest achievements since taking office.


He should, by all means. He has so few of them that he needs to use this small thing for all it's worth. When the Supreme Court strikes down his plan for socialized medicine and snubs his attack on Arizona in a couple months, he'll wish he had more bullets in the gun. I never dreamed a president could make that national embarrassment B.J. Clinton look good, let alone that earlier embarrassment Jimmy Carter, but Barack Obama has done both. When the presidential historians make their rankings years from now, all three have a shot at making the Ten All-Time Worst list. Take out Warren Harding and Andrew Johnson, the only president other than B.J. to be impeached, and there'd be no question.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 11
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Posted: 4/30/2012 7:36:20 PM
Every President knows that Carter lost the Presidency because he authorized a raid to rescue the Iranian hostages and it went badly. There was no political downside to not doing anything. As far as anyone knew, bin Laden was unreachable. There was enormous political downside to authorizing the raid. If it failed, he'd be a one term President.

But it was the right thing to do, and the tough decisions are what the President has to make.
 Kings_Knight
Joined: 1/20/2009
Msg: 13
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Posted: 4/30/2012 8:17:24 PM
Democrats playing POLITICS with bin Laden's death ... ? The hell you say. Why, EVERYone knows that they have SO much more to run on than ... oh ... wait - no, they don't. Can't run on lower unemployment ... can't run on closing Gitmo ... can't run on securing our borders ... can't run on his 'staunch support' for Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East ... can't run on a booming economy ... can't run on the success of 'green energy' after Solyndra et al ... can't run on successful diplomacy after 'The Un' got caught on open mike telling Medvedev to 'give him some breathing room 'til after he was re-elected' (HA!) ... can't run on getting us off of foreign oil when all his policies make us more dependent on the 'tender mercies' of hostile foreigners and unable to exploit our own natural resources - and telling Brasil he wants the US to be its 'best customer' ... Hmm ... Looks like all they got IS bin Laden's death - and even THAT was made possible by the foundation put in place by BUSH ...
 Kings_Knight
Joined: 1/20/2009
Msg: 16
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Posted: 4/30/2012 8:29:22 PM
@ Nr 18 ...

It's so refreshing to read the 'replies' of the Progressive / Socialist / Statist types ... lots of heat, but little light ... it's all about emotion and screaming to shout down anyone who dares disagree with their attempts to control the conversation ... Note that none of 'em ever bring facts to replace the 'feelings' and 'emotion' they value above all else ... If they ever get an original idea, they should take care to treat it well, 'cuz it'll be a long way from home.
 raxarsr
Joined: 7/10/2008
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Posted: 4/30/2012 10:24:45 PM
i'm sorry......but if everything......EVERYTHING that has gone wrong since obama took over is bush's fault........then by golly....at least half the credit for getting bin laden goes to bush too
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
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Posted: 4/30/2012 10:51:47 PM
^^^^Direct hit, right in the wheelhouse.
 Kings_Knight
Joined: 1/20/2009
Msg: 21
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Posted: 5/1/2012 12:43:02 AM
@ Nr 20 ...

So much heat, so little light ... other than the usual Denial, Deflection, and Delusional response techniques utilized by any good Progressive type, there are no facts ... but there is, as usual, much Prevarication, Posturing, and Pedantry in this ... umm ... 'response' [sic]. What this ( ahem ) 'rebuttal' consists of is heapin' helpin's of Imagination, Ignorance, and Illusion all wrapped up in a Giant Taco of Opinion and Obduracy (you can look that one up). No facts are detected, and the supposed 'facts' (actually numbers of dubious value since no sourcing is provided) regarding the 'increase' in oil production are just numbers in a columnar list. The real story is that oil production is NOT up as you claim, but has gone steadily down under the 'loving care and concern for the environment' of 'The Un'. Should you doubt this, I've provided (with attribution) a recent statement by the House Natural Resources Committee Chairman for your reading pleasure. You will read it, won't you ... ? Thought so ...

http://naturalresources.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=284987

WASHINGTON, D.C., March 15, 2012 - House Natural Resources Committee Chairman Doc Hastings released the following statement after the Energy Information Administration, the non-partisan data collection branch of the Department of Energy, released updated data on federal energy production. The data shows President Obama’s anti-energy policies are starting to take effect as total fossil fuel production (oil, natural gas and coal) dropped by 7 percent since President Obama took office and is down 13 percent since 2003. From 2010 to 2011, total federal oil and natural gas production is down 14 percent and 11 percent, respectively.

The reported decline in federal energy production reveals America’s increasing reliance on oil and natural gas production from state and private lands. This increase can be attributed to regulations, red tape and President Obama’s policies that are driving production off of federal lands, which Bureau of Land Management Director Bob Abbey recently admitted is happening.

“These non-partisan statistics show federal oil and natural gas productions are declining as President Obama’s anti-energy policies catch up with him. President Obama has been more than happy to take credit for his predecessors’ actions to advance energy production on federal lands, however, we know that while brining federal oil and natural gas production online can take the better part of a decade, slowing production can happen relatively quickly.
 IgorFrankensteen
Joined: 6/29/2009
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Posted: 5/1/2012 4:38:39 AM
What? Politicians are accusing other politicians of playing politics?

Call Guinness!!!!

The world must be coming to an end!

Run about, scream and shout!

Folks on the Right, are trying to pretend everything that's wrong is the fault of the left? Folks on the left are trying to say the Rightists caused it all to go bad?

OMG!!!! Let me set up my recording device to catch this unusual event!
 Kings_Knight
Joined: 1/20/2009
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Posted: 5/1/2012 7:59:27 AM
^ ^ ^

This 'reply' illustrates my point perfectly. Emotion, opinion, and no facts ... and it's anti-Semitic, too ...
 IgorFrankensteen
Joined: 6/29/2009
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Posted: 5/1/2012 2:49:37 PM
Dear mr self-righteous "Complete etc." You are using a stolen picture to misrepresent yourself. Nothing you can say when you are presenting yourself as you have, can possibly have any bearing on a serious discussion of any kind.
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 5/1/2012 9:46:59 PM

... can't run on his 'staunch support' for Israel ...
When or why is staunch support for Israel ever a reason to vote for a candidate?

... the only democracy in the Middle East ...
... historic and violently abusive and predatory treatment of non-Jewish citizens living inside Israel or its non-Jewish subjects hanging on in the West Bank and Gaza.

Israel has no constitution and no bill of rights. Its history of legislating apartheid, unequal civil rights, privileges and access to public funds make a disqualifying mockery of the definition of "true" and the concept of "democracy." The truth is there are no true democracies in the Middle East.

Looks like all they got IS bin Laden's death - and even THAT was made possible by the foundation put in place by BUSH ...
... Bush laid no foundation for going after OBL. He did what he does best ...he runs away! That wasn't new to anyone ... he ran away from going to Vietnam as well, but I guess that's okay if you're a Republican ... right?
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
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Posted: 5/2/2012 11:55:54 AM
You are using a stolen picture to misrepresent yourself.


I wonder if that's within the rules of this site. I doubt that commenting on the homosexual appeal of another poster's photo is. The object of these comments didn't seem to be flattered.

As for Mr. Obama, I hope he trumpets away. Let rip! The more he tries to bask in the glory of this, the less presidential he appears. His best move would have been to honor the other people involved and brush aside attempts to give him any of the credit.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 36
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Posted: 5/2/2012 2:07:24 PM
It's also important because Mitt said he wouldn't go after Osama if he was in Pakistan. He's desperately trying to backpedal. But it was recorded. So this is one way the candidates are different.
 IgorFrankensteen
Joined: 6/29/2009
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Posted: 5/2/2012 2:35:31 PM
Fundamental Political Procedure, used by all organized political groups:

If the opposition fails in an endeavor, run around and around it, shining lights on it, and pointing to how they did bad.

If the opposition succeeds at something, and it is unassailable as a positive accomplishment, and they actually want to TALK about it, dress up in your best three piece suit, and self-righteously proclaim that they are "playing politics with serious and important issues."

This should be declared to be as non-news news as can be. Unfortunately, the age of TV News Anchormen with the stature needed to speak out, and put this waste of air to rest, has been over for some time.

If the Democrats weren't such inept lummoxes, they would simply respond to the GOP accusations with a multi-page list of all the times that the Republicans "played politics" in exactly the same manner. They wont call them on it, though, because they plan to use the same accusation next time the GOP is in the catbird seat.

Ho-hummmmm. Wake me if something significant comes of any of this. I'm sure I'll get a good long nap.
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
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Posted: 5/2/2012 2:41:39 PM

I refer you to the stuffed codpiece "Lookit Daddy, I landeded a faghter jet (But not really) on a aircraft carrier, just like you did! Ah'ma hero!" embarrassment that was Geroge W. Bush and his "Mission Accomplished" moment.


I don't recall that President Bush ever claimed to have landed that plane on the carrier. In fact I remember it was made clear he did not, as makes sense--that's not something they let even the navy pilots try without a lot of training. But I understand he was a skilled enough pilot to fly the F-102, which was a supersonic interceptor.

I've always thought it was outrageous, though, that President Kennedy used Old Man Joe's pull to get command of a PT boat, so he could zoom around in the South Pacific playing rum runner, just like Dad used to be. Imagine any son wanting to do something even remotely like what his father had done!
 whiskeypapa
Joined: 5/19/2008
Msg: 39
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Posted: 5/2/2012 3:16:11 PM
It is unbelievable that so many people are treating the "I Killed Bin Laden Hoax" as if it really happened.

Bin Laden died of pulmonary complications brought on by kidney failure in December of 2001 according to the Egyptian paper, Al-Wafd. The story was also carried by Fox. People who listened to radio transmissions reported that Bin Laden was no longer heard after 15 December 2001.

How long can a man in a cave last on dialysis? Why did Bush give up the hunt for him so soon? It seems a coincidence that the hit team all died shortly afterwards. Where is the body? It seems if the hit really happened they would still be parading it around taking it from city to city like the Stanly Cup.
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 5/4/2012 2:15:09 PM

Now, if you'd like to take a look of what unwarranted basking in undeserved glory looks like, I refer you to the stuffed codpiece ...
C'mon "Blade" ... that's not fair. We all know that's not how it went. As I recall, it was more like the following:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/cs/georgewbush/a/bushlanding.htm
"In response to the escalating violence in Iraq, President Bush is delaying the return home of 25,000 troops and will actually add reinforcements to the south. Then in a symbolic gesture he pulled down the mission accomplished banner, put on a flight suit, walked backwards to a jet fighter, and flew it in reverse off an aircraft carrier." —Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update"


No wait ... I think it's more like this:
"Democrats are very upset that President Bush flew onto that aircraft carrier dressed as a fighter pilot. They said it was just a campaign stunt. But I don't know. Before that he visited that Boeing plant and put on a construction hat. And then he went to his ranch and put on a cowboy hat. Then last week he met with cops and put on a motorcycle hat. I think he's trying to join the Village People." —Jay Leno
 MrLove45
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Posted: 5/4/2012 4:58:04 PM
your right fella everything that went wrong since Mr. Obama took office isn't all bush's fault. Yea g w bush ( and the w stands for worst ) handed Mr. Obama a triple sh itburger with those 2 unjust wars founded on lies and to line the pockets of the cheney's haliburton. Not to mention that the deregulations on the financial industries which lead to the 2008 financial crisis under bush contributed heavily on why things went wrong during Mr. Obama's 1st term.
But everything that has gone wrong since president Obama took office has been a result from those unamerican, anti-american primative, knuckle dragging, republicans in both houses of congress as well as those 5 activist repugnican supreme court justices.

Mr. Obama should remind the people who will vote in November 2012 not only about those republicans who don't give a damn about the 0ther 99% .Mr. Obama should not only point out that his administration killed osama bin laden but also point out that the republican party and alot of their members should be happy for this ( hell they should give our president 100 percent support but they wont because of their hypocrisy and we all know the other reason why they wont support the president even if before he leaves unemployment dips to the 5% level..........

well guys it's been a minute but it is good to see some of your faces and even those same ole sheep blindly vomiting republican dribble too
 vlad dracul
Joined: 4/30/2009
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Posted: 5/5/2012 1:32:24 AM
well we just had council elections in the uk and the coalition of cameron/clegg (conservative/liberal)
got a pure kicking to labour.

although the turn out to vote was roughly 30%. folk are fed up with the fakes and phoneys.

although the labour party were the main winners its not really much to yodel about. the lib dems
were giving a shoeing everywhere and in edinburgh pentlands ward a geezer dressed as a penguin beat
the lib dem candidate lol

the snp never done as well as it should have in scotland. so all you obama worshipers dont think
its a stroll in the park.

nationally over here the con/dems are only trying to sort out the mess left by labour yet the folk
forgot and voted liebour anyway

so dont kick mitt the dog in the balls in celebration yet, he might still turn around and bite your arse
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 5/5/2012 10:14:57 AM
ye gods (or sciences for the non believers) i actually agree with the oy meister.

politicians are oppertunists. they do anything for votes. how many times you see a poor bairn
snatched from the mother to get a slobbering politician grabbing a photie shoot.

the thing is politicians promise much and deliver little. its ALWAYS the previous admins fault
even years after being elected.

they should have boxes next to their promises and they should be ticked off when achieved.

another thing is they should not be allowed to waffle what their oppents are going to do or not do
i want to know what THEY are going to do.

in every debate or live on tv and radio they should get 3 strikes. cut off at each mention of what the opposition
may or may not do and after the 3rd time they get cut off completely.

im sick of windbags who will not tell us what THEY propose

folk are jaded and sick of the duplicious rodents.
 IgorFrankensteen
Joined: 6/29/2009
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Posted: 5/5/2012 1:30:28 PM
I saw a little science fiction movie a long while back, that has a tiny cool scene. It took place on an independent space colony, which had to decide what to do with a nuke. Anyway, they held a televised debate, following which they were all to vote on the decision. What was cool was that as each side spoke their piece, language and rhetoric computers ran a text line below their faces, which explained what sort of emotional tricks they were trying to use to sway people, and which gave up to the minute verification of any "facts" they claimed applied.

These days, we occasionally have people like "factchecker.org" or whoever, doing POST-debate checks, but I would love to see something more. Things such as:

All candidates REQUIRED to attend and respond at a set of debates.

Moderators supported by language arts verifiers, and fact checkers, so that as soon as a candidate made a claim, they could be called to account for the truth of it, as well as for how they tried to slant things using tortured language debate tricks.

No one permitted to claim to speak for the opposition, only allowed to quote them verbatim. Full context required on the spot.

Any accusations, suppositions, predictions etc must be immediately supported by factual documentation, or immediately withdrawn from the discussion.

This will not likely happen in my lifetime, because, at least in the US, the candidates are all members of the power structure elite, and will NEVER vote to require themselves to be held responsible for their words and actions.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
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Posted: 5/6/2012 10:49:54 PM
I always thought Carter was in the Coast Guard. Don't know why.

Anyway, the optics of it isn't that Reagan got them out, but that he cut a deal to keep them there until after the election. The Iran part of the Iran-Contra scandal would seem to bear that out. He owed them.
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