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 TabithaMorrison
Joined: 10/4/2012
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For the moment, I'll refrain from stating my feelings on chiropractic treatment, but I'm interested to hear the opinions or experiences of others. This would include comments on the chiropractic branch of "upper cervical adjustment" as well.
 billingsmason
Joined: 2/3/2012
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Is chiropractic treatment quackery?
Posted: 10/9/2012 4:23:56 PM
I would like to know too.

Asked one once.... he said there are bad mechanics out there, so bad chiropractors too no doubt.
 KittenCatt
Joined: 6/11/2011
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Posted: 10/9/2012 4:24:43 PM
Nope. I've had it for over 5 years now because one day long ago I couldn't even move because my back was so messed up.

I've even grown a half inch since then from my spine getting slowly straightened out.

I store emotions back there too, including from decades ago, and the manipulations have slowly purged lots of those old painful ones stuck there too.

I do think who you go to matters though, GREATLY....mine is a sweet, patient, kind, angel. I went to one before that who pushed their services on people like a cult.
 BLACKX21
Joined: 1/18/2010
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Posted: 10/9/2012 6:03:46 PM
I don't think it is 3 years ago I tore my shoulder (rotator cuff) the first thing my doctor suggested was surgery to repair it I wasn't too found of that idea. A friend recommended going to a chiro he went to the guy was great stretched out my shoulder and found the pain talked to me well over an hour about baseball players suffering from the same injury and showed me how to stretch it after workouts and gave me exercises to get muscle over the tear my shoulder feels better now then before
 onlydateIF
Joined: 11/15/2011
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Posted: 10/9/2012 6:19:13 PM
your premise/foregone conclusion are pretty clear. 'Quackery' is strong language, OP .
 Paddy_o_Lantern
Joined: 5/24/2012
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Posted: 10/9/2012 9:03:51 PM
I had chiropractic treatments from over 10 different chiropractors ( who all came highly recommended by others they had helped ) from the time I was 13 to 30.

I gave up seeking treatment at a chiropactor and accepted that they were not helping my problems with my back. When I had a ct scan on my back after a skiing accident 8 years ago and they discoved I have an instable back due to a genetic defect - one the of first things the sports medicine doc who knew my history said was " I can see why chiropractic medicine never helped you.

The funny thing is why were none of the chiropactors I went to during all those treatment able to deduce that my particular back problem was not suitiable for chiropractic treatment. Makes me wonder if they really had my best interest at heart.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
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Posted: 10/9/2012 9:29:35 PM

The funny thing is why were none of the chiropactors I went to during all those treatment able to deduce that my particular back problem was not suitiable for chiropractic treatment.


Chiros do not have the same type of diagnostic training as MD's do.
Their field of study prepares them to treat a narrow array of musculo-skeletal problems
even though most of them advertise treatments for nearly every form of ailment of the skeletal/muscle systems. They have virtually the same prescription for nearly everykind of problem; that is, a manual adjustment!


Makes me wonder if they really had my best interest at heart.


there are some honest chiros out there who know where to draw the line; and advise medical evaluation if the condition doesn't respond in a few quick sessions, yet others will drag it on and on; as they are financially motivated in doing so. Another good example is with motor vehicle accident victims who have ongoing aches and pains that go to their chiro for "adjustments" week after week; even years after their accident took place!
Is chiropractic treatment quackery?
Posted: 10/10/2012 2:40:54 AM
Never had one help me, but had offers to do uninsured treatments............Hmmmmmmmmm

Physical therapy and getting a tens unit for home use has been pretty remarkable if I do not do anything stupid using my back.


I do think who you go to matters though, GREATLY....mine is a sweet, patient, kind, angel. I went to one before that who pushed their services on people like a cult.


^^^^^ same here.

I also find being stressed can make you back hurt.
 Paddy_o_Lantern
Joined: 5/24/2012
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Posted: 10/10/2012 8:55:24 AM
Chiros do not have the same type of diagnostic training as MD's do.


Yes they have different training than GP's or other specialists. Thier training is much more focused on back problems - and they recieve plenty of training in diagnosis and treatment by thier methods -as such if they are a competent professional they should be able to diagnose back related problems and know the limits of thier form of treatment and be the first to suggest the patient recieve alternative treatment or advice if what they are doing is not working or is inappropriate for the ailment or they simply do not know to properly treat the problem.
 IgorFrankensteen
Joined: 6/29/2009
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Posted: 10/10/2012 3:04:08 PM
I enjoyed the treatments I had. They felt good at the time, but didn't fix anything. I still have an intermittent problem that goes back to when I was twenty, and accidentally picked up a television that I should never have attempted to pick up (it was disguised as a portable, with a handle on top, but actually weighed over a hundred pounds, and was an unbalanced load as well. The designer who put the handle on the top should be drawn and quartered.).

As for back problems, one thing that should be taken into consideration, is that for many back pain ailments, absolutely nothing works. I know directly, or have read about lots and lots of people who have tried chiropractic treatments, pain pills, special exercises, and even surgery, and still not had relief.

Given that, the fact that chiro doesn't always help, isn't quite as much of an indictment.

So I would go with, give it a try, and if it helps great, but if it doesn't, then stop doing it, and try something else.
 Island home
Joined: 7/5/2009
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Posted: 10/10/2012 3:48:40 PM
I don't believe chiropractors are quacks
but they are more likely to cause damage than a osteopath or physiotherapist

I have had most success with osteopathic treatments especially ones that practice myofascial manipulation techniques.
 Dancing_4_You
Joined: 1/21/2006
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Posted: 10/12/2012 12:47:29 AM
there are many different chiropractic methods and trainings. add to that, it depends on the person just like md's. even PT is getting that way. i've had good ones and bad ones. you must be sure whichever method that is used, that they don't just crack bones, but focus on muscles. my dr. sent me to his chiro for treatments because he does not prolong visits. he says he gets fixed every few months in just one visit. after three attempts, the chiro told me to see an orthopedic person and get an mri. he was not able to order me one and felt my md could, but needed a specialist. the ortho i chose was also focused on the spine and is not surgery happy. but, this was after the physical therapist also drew the same conclusions. so, i've had the x-ray and now the mri. all three practitioners were on the same page, including my physician who is also btw a homeopath. in this area, people tend to mix and match traditional medicine with holistic.

my boyfriend sees my old chiro up in silicon valley. he saved my life when on iv treatment for lyme. my boyfriend has seen all the surgeons who could not help him. the chiro relieves the pain but he goes every two weeks. his inurance does not cover weekly treatments or he'd go. the PT's he saw were not good, and he cannot come down here to see mine during the week--too far!
 Peppermint_Petunias
Joined: 3/30/2012
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Posted: 10/13/2012 9:52:02 AM
Kitten.Was that decompression therapy?

I adore my physical therapist.

Made great strides in core strength training, got the tens unit for me with my Drs rx and he has this needling "thing " he does that he finds the sorest part of the back with his finger then puts in a fine needle into it and irritates the muscle until you have to cram a pillow in your mouth to stop from screaming **** in frt of everyone.

He enjoys doing it and my praise of his wonderful needle LOL

It only lasts a few seconds, but BOY does it burn intensely for a little while and then you are sore maybe 30 minutes.

After about an hour its amazing the relief you feel.It can last days.
I looooooooooooooooove him..

I do not think C is quackery, but as said.
You have ones that care and ones needing to pay for their expensive equipment as the order of business.
That runs the gamut of any profession that is to treat/cure/fix.

Ever go in with a throat issue and have them try and talk you into being put to sleep and examine your stomach by running a tube and camera down in there and then why dont we just go on up your bum and check that too?

Dentist can be just as bad or worse.

Deep root cleaning( 900 dollars) takes 20 minutes.
Please.

Reminds me of people that sell eggs from"vegetarian chickens".
Last one I saw was chewing a ham bone..uh huh.
 jaqi
Joined: 2/2/2008
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Posted: 10/19/2012 3:12:49 AM
I use an Osteomyologist and he is totally fab. I recommend him whole heartedly to all.
 Skyr
Joined: 3/30/2008
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Posted: 10/20/2012 7:07:17 PM
I've had very little experience with them, but they do some strange things and take funny xrays.
 DrSnore
Joined: 12/28/2015
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Posted: 4/24/2016 2:42:33 PM
Absolutely not! They go through a rigorous educational process, and their knowledge of anatomy and physiologe is second to none. I remember hobbling into a chiropractors office like I would fall any second, and walked ot a half hour later, standing upright and finally out of pain.

By the way, I went directly to his office after spending five days in the hospital, in traction for the problem!.

And, I am a doctor.
 chinook1111
Joined: 4/1/2016
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Posted: 5/1/2016 8:54:12 PM
They can indeed help at times.I find they do not address the role muscles play in the neck.For most people they need to be strengthened.
 caballerosiempre
Joined: 12/5/2015
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Posted: 5/2/2016 12:44:37 PM
most that I've ever encountered are HARD sell types..makes one wonder..
 2beetoo
Joined: 4/20/2016
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Posted: 5/4/2016 9:31:01 AM
The truth is, most doctors are worthless when it comes to back treatment and some are dangerous.

(1) Some people do benefit from Chiros in that they feel better after treatment . . . usually though it is a temporary fix. But that might be good enough. Most back issues resolve on their own within weeks or months of a problem. Chiros are often superior to medical doctors because their treatment is non-invasive and since they do not prescribe medication, they don't get people hooked on narcotics.

(2) Most medical doctors can do nothing but prescribe medications. Again this may help you get to the period where your back heals itself.

(3) Some doctors are qualified to inject medications, corticoids, whatever. These intense doses of anti-inflammatories can lead to long term relief. It quiets down the inflamation and allows the back to heal.

(4) for intractable back pain, or more serious issues like drop foot . . where there is significant pressure on a nerve, demanding immediate treatment lest the nerve die, surgeons are the ones to see. Neurosurgeons are generally superior to Orthopaedic Surgeons in this arena. They are better trained in issues dealing with the nerves, and usually better surgeons and smarter than the orthopods.

But . . . surgeons tend to think surgeries cure all. With a herniated disk merely causing pain . . .much better to give it time rather than a discectomy or an invasive fusion. Far too many unnecessary back surgeries in the country, and if the surgeon does not get it right the first time, you will be left with a bad back for the rest of your life. Rarely do more surgeries after the first help.

So YES. Chiros help . . . and if they can keep you away from medication or surgeons . . unless absolutely necessary . . . so much the better.
 ThatGirlNamedAlli
Joined: 12/28/2013
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Posted: 5/4/2016 8:47:43 PM
I'd be really interested to see a chiro to have a look at my hips. I've walked with a cane for about 20 years now. With my limp, I'm almost certain it's a nightmare in there by now. It would be interesting to have a look and see if any alignment would be beneficial.
 CHIR88
Joined: 3/18/2016
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Posted: 5/11/2016 4:47:16 PM
Thank you DrSnore, Chiropractic has only been in existence for 120 years. Medicine has been around for 1000's. There are several factors that cause negative remarks, but it's mostly the uneducated public that doesn't understand Chiropractic that makes comments not based on fact. Who's to blame for that? Chiropractors!! I've heard the same comments for 15 years, and it makes me angry at the Chiro for not explaining/educating his patients on how the body works from the CNS to PNS, reasons for multiple treatments sometimes, etc. Unfortunately, several of these patients are correct. There are crooked Chiros just like in any other profession. People please do your research. Please ask the Dr. questions. It's not only your right, but your responsibility, especially when it comes to your children's health. Good to all and feel free to ask me any questions you like.
 CHIR88
Joined: 3/18/2016
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Posted: 5/11/2016 4:57:05 PM
Pretty much nailed it!! :)
 Skyr
Joined: 3/30/2008
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Posted: 5/14/2016 3:50:14 PM

Thank you DrSnore, Chiropractic has only been in existence for 120 years. Medicine has been around for 1000's. There are several factors that cause negative remarks, but it's mostly the uneducated public that doesn't understand Chiropractic that makes comments not based on fact. Who's to blame for that? Chiropractors!! I've heard the same comments for 15 years, and it makes me angry at the Chiro for not explaining/educating his patients on how the body works from the CNS to PNS, reasons for multiple treatments sometimes, etc. Unfortunately, several of these patients are correct. There are crooked Chiros just like in any other profession. People please do your research. Please ask the Dr. questions. It's not only your right, but your responsibility, especially when it comes to your children's health. Good to all and feel free to ask me any questions you like.


Chiropractors are not trained in 'how the body works' at all. There is no anatomical basis to their back 'adjustments' and make believe 'subluxations'.

This is a good example that has been doing the rounds on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IU9emzBDRA

Talk about woo!
 chinook1111
Joined: 4/1/2016
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Posted: 5/14/2016 9:11:15 PM
So the fact that you can view a subluxation is not enough proof?

Hump backed old ladies?
 Skyr
Joined: 3/30/2008
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Posted: 5/14/2016 10:32:32 PM

So the fact that you can view a subluxation is not enough proof?


A subluxation is an anatomical displacement, not to be confused with the imaginary 'subluxation' that chiropracters diagnose all their patients with.
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