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 qedeshim
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The overly-flexible use of key terms that define the reality and potential of our political and economic systems has arisen from the institutions that benefit from a marginalised, dumbed down and fragmented public.

Terms used to analyse the nature of politics and the economy were introduced by intellectuals/academics and therefore the true definitions lie in their writings if we're willing to look. The masses tend not to read this stuff and therefore the definitions get dumbed down, glossing over all the subtleties and complexities that were introduced over the course of history.

The setting up, and result of false dichotomies, (e.g. "capitalism vs socialism"), skewed perceptions of reality, is the result of the deliberate manipulation and implimention of language by idealogical forces which control the media and actively seek to destroy informed debate, and the false illusion that there is "no alternative" to the current system. Propaganda (which is now called "PR") and dumbing down is essential to keep the public as spectators rather than participators in democratic societies.
 IgorFrankensteen
Joined: 6/29/2009
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Posted: 1/31/2013 6:31:05 PM
While I don't disagree with you for the most part, I think there's both more, and less to this than you express here.

Basically, opportunists have, and always will, take ANYTHING that is at hand, and try to misuse and exploit it to benefit themselves. When it comes to words, concepts, desires, and labels... the worst of the politicians and other power brokers have always, and will always ignore the original intent of those who designed the concepts and terms, and instead will use them to gain additional influence and power. Commercial people will use whatever the latest "hot lingo" is being bandied about, to try to get those who like it, to buy more of their stuff.

It's not something you can fight in a general way, it's instead something you have to point out each time it comes up, in specific ways.

"Oh look! That guy is pretending he understands and sympathizes with the newly noticed/imagined block of Hispanic voters, by using a few bits of Spanish lingo to say something inconsequential. Notice how he only wants you to help him get more power, so that he can then IGNORE what you actually want for your family?"


That sort of thing.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
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Posted: 1/31/2013 8:47:36 PM

Propaganda (which is now called "PR") and dumbing down is essential to keep the public as spectators rather than participators in democratic societies.


fraid its not always that straight forward!
Whether or not a voter is educated in the issues at hand often matters little
if the politicians on the ballot(s) are heavily influenced by consortiums; conglomerates (aka: Big Business)
At the end of the day; these public servants will do what their benefactors have dictated on to them
regardless of whatever position or platform they ran on;
if by chance that platform also lies within the interests of these entities then it will be allowed to live
if not then it will be snuffed out like a camp fire whose cinders have burned out.
A good example of this was the fight to implement Universal healthcare pre-Obama

But I understand where you are going with this
however, this is not new to the ages
At the moment, we have the Gun control issue that has polarized the masses
both sides unfortunately are employing said strategies to bolster their points.
 privat33r
Joined: 2/8/2009
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Posted: 1/31/2013 8:55:23 PM
Terms used to reveal understanding were coined by people looking for the clearest and most accurate ways to convey their message, and the message of their opponents. Intellectuals and academics aren't well known for their requests to dumb down the message.

Nevertheless there is a pervasive and growing tendency to control the message and the language. The art of enforced doublethink and doubletalk is alive. Internet and mass media enabled it. The pipeline of intellectual converse runs through a moderally controlled ara. With legally controlled language through 'hate crime' legislation and the ubiquity of internet communication its possible to tune the discussion to exorcise many types of revelation. Its illegal to host challenging discussions. Nevetheless- I prefer it as it is. I'm not uncomfortable with plastic and transparent lies.
 motown_cowgirl
Joined: 12/22/2011
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Posted: 2/1/2013 6:58:13 AM
institutions that benefit from a marginalised, dumbed down and fragmented public.

what makes you think those institutions never existed because stupid people always did?? neither one is going away.


the nature of politics and the economy

is defined by the nature of the people who define and then affirm it. "it's not rocket science".
 RussArtLover
Joined: 5/13/2010
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Posted: 2/1/2013 11:17:20 AM
If I remember right, my first grade teacher held a class discussion one day about "What would World War 3 be Like?"
At the end she said The US would only fall from within.
That use to haunt me in the 80s and 90s as music and TV became more and more permissive \ radical. Looking back it seems more innocent but who knows. They're might have been an agenda. Sad all the money they wasted. Everyone sleeps and gets up the next day refreshed. Reboots :)

The Pied Piper will always be a threat but there will always be good nights sleeps too. So pfffft!
 Kings_Knight
Joined: 1/20/2009
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Posted: 2/1/2013 11:17:28 AM
In Public Relations 101 (a/k/a 'Agitprop For The Masses'), we learn that it is virtually impossible to provide enough evidence to move someone from 'negative' to 'positive'. The best we can hope to achieve is to move them to 'neutral'. Unfortunately, the innate truth of that statement is observable in everyday life ... esp. in 'forums' like these. If you've seen anyone on either side of any issue change their position one-hundred-eighty degrees, raise my hand.
 Kings_Knight
Joined: 1/20/2009
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Posted: 2/1/2013 12:49:24 PM
Seriously ... ? That's the best you got ... ? A 9/11 'truther' YouTube video ... ? Lame.

I win.
 relaxingwithyou
Joined: 12/2/2012
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Posted: 2/1/2013 1:20:48 PM
You really think the masses could handle it if we did move away from deception? For example it's common knowledge goods produced in China frequently involve torturous if not slave working conditions for the laborers. Go to your nearest Walmart or Target or Sears and watch people buying T.V.'s. They want the bigger better one and choose to be in complete denial of the blood and ruined lives that went into manufacturing their new big screen. Obviously child and other labor laws only count if it's within your own borders. Anyone else is fair game to sacrifice for whatever you want.

There's solid evidence that the 1000's of people incarcerated for practicing Falcun Gong, a form of Tai Chi, are picked off in the labor camps as involuntary organ donars. On the spot when a foreigner shows up for a transplant surgery, the innocent gets pulled off the line, scrubbed, and with minimal anesthetics and no pain killers the organ is harvested and the body usually still conscious then gets thrown into an incinerator. Worse than the dam Nazis and yet foreigners including Israelis flock to China for livers and kidneys and whatever else you want to buy.

How about the scores of religious zealots littering the planet with their self-centeredness? Think they deviate far from their doctrines which are technically cult mentality? Would their leaders get with the program or feel threatened by the empowerment of the little guy?

Some of us would absolutely flourish if big brother was demoted or erased. It would be interesting to see if the masses could maintain the integrity.
 frank2007
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Posted: 2/5/2013 12:32:58 AM
I think that you have something there gedeshim; re: The setting up, and result of false dichotomies.... . Yes there is a definite plan to decieve and promote false beliefs in a progressive fashion so as to keep people interested as followers rather than particants.
 RyanohRyan
Joined: 11/12/2012
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Posted: 2/5/2013 1:46:20 PM
OP, reading your post was like candy for my brain. Great vocabulary.
 RussArtLover
Joined: 5/13/2010
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Posted: 2/5/2013 8:48:28 PM
Regarding slave labor in China or here or where ever... If you can't bring yourself to push the button and nuke them, what are your alternatives? Maybe do business, give them a taste of MORE. Then what? Negotiate? Black Ops? Art? (inspire)

I was a nuclear missile tech. It's not as easy as it sounds.
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