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 CureCurious
Joined: 1/15/2013
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So I want to find out if anyone here has ever 'astral projected' or done any remote viewing etc.
I've never experienced it, but I hear people can manipulate their own brains to get into that state.
Scientists say it's simply an alteratin in awareness, there is no such thing as an 'astral plane' -- which i also would tend towards. But even so, i still find it fascinating.

What's your views on it? Can you do it/did it? How was it?
 Ochema
Joined: 1/12/2013
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Posted: 2/8/2013 10:20:24 PM
I remember having this dream, when I was a kid, where I floated around the house in a sort of ghost form. That's what comes to mind for me when I hear talk about astro-travel.

I haven't had this dream for a long time now.
 CureCurious
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Posted: 2/8/2013 10:30:50 PM
Must've felt awesome, yeah? Or freaky?
 RussArtLover
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Posted: 2/9/2013 3:50:39 AM
I think it's like a near death experience, very dangerous for a novice.
A few years ago engineers were trying to develop brain connectivity to computers, probably still are. Once that is perfected computer aided mental processes could then make it safer for your average thrill seeker to do things like that. Programmers could easily design a virtual dreamscape to practice.
If we do, I wonder if there would be any telltales of a person doing it. If some goof was viewing you would you know?
:)
 CureCurious
Joined: 1/15/2013
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Posted: 2/9/2013 4:42:00 AM
and this was 4 years ago :)

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16267-mindreading-software-could-record-your-dreams.html

I'v tried to astral body a few times.. one time i was close... i think.... but damn brain got scared and i woke myself up.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
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Posted: 2/9/2013 4:15:53 PM

Eventually the projects were shut down after yeilding no results.


This is what they are telling the public
If they did ever get any positive outcomes
you certainly would not have expected the Kremlin or the Pentagon to make it public

This was 1st undertaken by the Germans in WW2, as many Nazis were occultists
After the war both the US & USSR pursued it in the same way they did with ballistic missles

few if any of these files have ever been de-classified.
 RussArtLover
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Posted: 2/9/2013 6:55:01 PM
They did get results, but the participants suffered horrible mental dissorders. Thought they were seeing monsters n'sht. I'll keep looking, I copied the text to a file but can only hope it's on an old drive I'll have to search. From one of the support staff and a few quotes from an almost sane participant.
 Aries_328
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Posted: 2/9/2013 7:22:49 PM
I've had strange dream type things that I could see how they could be called this.

One that happens several times in mylife is an extreme feeling of vibration. Sometimes after this occurs I see images of places. One time was really dramatic as I was flying toward a very bright light. I then made a turn and found it was the sun. I then ended up at a friends house and slammed into their window. ouch ...

I wouldn't call these things astral projection or remote viewing. I can only go as far as to call them dreams.

I remember all the way back in high school trying to match dreams with a girl. It was fun. I told her one day that I saw her at a 7-11 late at night. She confirmed it. She then told me that she saw an old women looking through photographs with her feet in a foot bath massager. My grandmother was visiting and had taken the room next to mine. She brought her own foot massager. One of those things you fill with water and its jets to create bubbles.

I don't call these episodes anything more than dreams with the likelihood of wishful thinking and confirmation bias.

So, do I believe these things. I don't know. DO I have experience. I don't know. Do I attribute magical and mysterious things to my own experiences. I try not to. Was it fun... yes.

Could I reproduce it in a lab. No. so I don't claim it as real.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
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Posted: 2/9/2013 7:37:03 PM

What's your views on it?

That what we perceive is based on complex chemical reactions, and those levels can be changed by an outside influence or meditation, as it is possible to obtain an altered state and or out of body experience.

The amount of DMT that is released can take a simple dream to an altered state and what you will see is the path to the other side. Though what you may learn is, the other side is only a path and not a destination.

That big dose of DMT you will get when you die will just send you on an adventure that will never end, though it will only last but a few moments, as they do not call it the spirit molecule for nothing.




Can you do it/did it?

Not at will.




How was it?

If you are the type of person that enjoys the trip more than the destination, you will enjoy it.
 melodyof_k
Joined: 5/2/2012
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Posted: 2/9/2013 8:03:47 PM
I have not had anything like that.
the only thing I did have were flying dreams...
a lot of them
where I flew over my neighborhood and over clouds.
I thought it was odd to dream that way because I have read that a person can only
dream what they have experienced. and believe me I have never flown!
But now,...I feel as if I know what it is like to fly ,....from the memories of the feelings in my dreams.
 Ochema
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Posted: 2/10/2013 1:51:47 AM
I remember hoping to get that flying dream tonight. It was a very pleasant experience.
 ForumFiona
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Posted: 2/11/2013 12:38:48 PM
I think I did once when I was 15 years old and had to leave my 17 year old brother behind at a party because I had curfew. I was really concerned for him as he was getting quite intoxicated when I left.

It bothered me all the way home and into the evening when I retired, and it didn't seem I was asleep that long when I found myself back on that farm in that huge metal building where that party was. I found him sitting at one end of a long table there talking with some people and I was sitting with my back against the wall at the other end of the table, actually on the table in lotus position. When I thought someone recognized me, I "left" ...

And found myself sitting up in lotus position when I woke up, with no idea how long I had been sitting up like that in bed.

I have not had a dream like that since, especially waking up in lotus...lol.
 RussArtLover
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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:33:06 PM
I've had a few flying dreams. They usually start pretty tame out in the woods, then I fly over a castle, then it gets spooky. I can't seem to land, I just start going higher and higher and wake up. Eeek

I dunno what Astral is. I'm guessing it's like Space. Or the ocean. But created / manifested by the mind like an alternate universe?
 Aries_328
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Posted: 2/12/2013 8:50:34 AM

The flying dreams I've had all end up the same way: as soon as I start thinking wow, I can fly! I can't and I'm ground-bound once again trying to fly like "The Greatest American Hero" :)

From what I know of astral projection, it doesn't occur when you're asleep - those are dreams. I think AP is just a trancendental experience called something to make it more cool. Many trancendental meditative practices exist and fairly well documented. AP is likely just another name for what 'Whirling Dervishes,' very devout religious people praying, speaking in tongues, etc. are doing.

Actually flying dreams are more of an expression of real world helplessness. The expression of flying in a dream is the achievement of special power/privilege/exploration that is unattainable by the dreamer.

Also, astral projection being awake is not accurate. It is a form of Hypnagogia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia

Mental phenomena that occur during this "threshold consciousness" phase include lucid dreaming, hallucinations, and sleep paralysis.
 Dokkodo
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Posted: 2/14/2013 10:24:34 AM
Astral projection is a phenomenon similar to near death experiences and drug trips.

When under extreme stress or extreme relief the mind produces chemicals, these chemicals can give you all kinds of crazy experiences. There's an incredible and inconsistent range to these experiences, which include seeming to be out of body, thinking you're talking to God (in the case of a Native American friend of mine who did peyote, he talked to god through his ancestors), and it's all just things your brain fooled you with.

As Richard Feynman once said (and I'm paraphrasing), the easiest person to fool is yourself.
 ssf714
Joined: 2/10/2013
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Posted: 3/2/2013 11:55:01 PM
Astral Projection is real. In Buddhism this is called "dream yoga".. Ive been practicing everyday for the last 2 years.. It took me three months to get my first experience, now I have 3 or 4 a week..

It isnt a make believe part of your mind.. You can verify things, like seeing a shoe on top of a roof in the astral, and then when you are back in your body, go and verify that the shoe is indeed on top of the roof..

You do it by going to sleep very concentrated on your breath, or repeating certain mantras, very focused and not distracted by any thoughts.. In short, you remain "awake" while the body goes to sleep..

You feel intense vibrations throughout your body when it starts. Sleep paralysis is part of the process when the vital/astral body splits from the phyisical body.. Though in a few moments you do gain control and movement in the astral/vital body..

The ability to astral project is an atrophied ability we all have.. Like a muscle that has never been used, it takes time to strengthen and be functional again.

The purpose, and use of this, is to explore the mysteries of life, reality and get first hand experiences about the spiritual dimensions and beings which are guiding humanity..

There are sinister beings in the astral plane that really just want to scare you back in your body. They cant hurt you, nor can they cut any "silve cord" or possess your body.. What they want to do is keep you asleep from exploring the reality of life.. They are pretty powerless though, because , all you have to do in the astral is sincerely pray to God for protection, or to dispell the entity, and it will go away.. You should know several prayers such as the our father, and other, and also have a clear conscious and knowing you are doing the right things in life, and most importantly of those things is your sexual conduct, not only physically, but psychologically.

Out of your body, in the astral plane, you can get direct guidance from spiritual beings, that want to guide you on the spiritual path, which is the very reason we are alive..

The astral plane, is the world of dreams. We all go there everynight, and always return to our body. There is no danger. The only difference with astral projection is that your are conscious there, rather than being unconscious like how most everybody dreams.. Though your dreams, are projections of your ego, your subconscious, and you create a world of mental matter over there.. In the astral plane, your thoughts become living things. So most people in the astral plane when dreaming are submerged within their own little worlds, and look like drunk people lost in a daydream ..

When you astral project consiously, it is important to be very present, in the moment, and aware of your senses, because any daydreaming done there, will start the process of falling into a dream and losing the experience..

In the astral plane, there are fewer laws that govern. Thus you can float, fly, stretch your limbs and go through walls, things like that.. Also can go to the moon, other planets, and investigate other parts of the world, etc..

It is very real. Though what Im trying to relay is almost like trying to tell you what some exotic fruit tastes like.. I can tell you all day how great this fruit is, but you will never truly know how it tastes until you take a bite of it yourself..
 CureCurious
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Posted: 3/3/2013 12:46:25 AM
Green? lol... I'm wrong aren't I?
 CureCurious
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Posted: 3/3/2013 1:11:52 AM
Well if i knew how to astral project this would've proved something.. all i've proven now is i'mm ordinary like majority of people.. which is a shame... was i close though?

Hot pink!!??!!
 Aries_328
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Posted: 3/3/2013 8:13:13 AM
Tell me the colour of the shirt I'm wearing right now and I'll believe you.

Sorry, it is mostly blue. I am absolutely positive.
 Thor_the_Great
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Posted: 3/3/2013 11:57:41 AM

Tell me the colour of the shirt I'm wearing right now and I'll believe you.


How about I tell you to take your left hand off your face instead?
 Aries_328
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Posted: 3/3/2013 12:24:06 PM
Sorry. Boy, you guys aren't building any credibility here LOL


I was just kidding. It's cold out, it is a saturday and you are at your computer. That pretty much means you may be up for the day but you hardly give a crap and don't have many plans for the rest of the day.

I would say sweat pants and a white t-shirt since you probably have the heat on. You may be getting ready to do some crap outside because i'ts been put off long enough so... some form of solid color green jacket with gloves in your future.

haha
 Albvs
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Posted: 3/3/2013 2:05:12 PM
I totally believe in astral projection and remote viewing... as does your military.

http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/answers/crvmanual/CRVManual_FiredocsRV.pdf
 Aries_328
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Posted: 3/3/2013 3:44:37 PM

That is the closest any of you have come to accuracy yet (except it's a sunday... epic fail)


It's the negative energy you are projecting. It is interfering with my chi. My vision is clouded by your tinfoil hat.
 CureCurious
Joined: 1/15/2013
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Posted: 3/3/2013 4:49:44 PM
trailsman


That is the closest any of you have come to accuracy yet (except it's a sunday... epic fail).



Bahahahaha, the ONLY verifiable fact was the day of the week, and he got that one wrong bahahaha.

Though, for me it's a Monday afternoon. :)
 gogogo66
Joined: 2/4/2013
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Posted: 3/4/2013 7:19:43 AM
Its real to the ones that have experianced it,and yes i have.
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