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 Hearton64
Joined: 12/18/2012
Msg: 1
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Ok ladies,

Since the stats claim that 75% of us CAN NOT orgasm by penetration alone,with NO clitoral stimulation whatsoever,and alot of men claim orgasms are all in our heads and that we need therapy for sexual dysfunction if we can't orgasm thru penetration alone,I am wondering who here can honestly say they are part of that 75%?

I, for one,am completely incapable of orgasming from penetration alone.

Who else here can't?

How do you most easily come during sex?

Clitoral or G-spot?

Oral or manual?

Penetration alone?

Oh...and just wondering also,who here has faked it in order to not bruise a man's ego?
 HeywoodJaBlowme2013
Joined: 3/15/2013
Msg: 2
Orgasms from penetration alone
Posted: 3/20/2013 10:22:49 AM
Just wanted to say that men can fake it as well. Like you said so as not to bruise our lovers ego.

Sex is like 90% mental and 10% physical. You have to be into it completely in order to completely enjoy it. Nothing worse than going thru the motions when your just not feeling it.
 sassybaby2013
Joined: 12/31/2012
Msg: 3
Orgasms from penetration alone
Posted: 3/20/2013 10:39:47 AM
I can only orgasm from penetration or use of fingers by my partner. I have no need to fake it. I love sex!
 Bebedeleau
Joined: 2/25/2013
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Orgasms from penetration alone
Posted: 3/20/2013 10:48:10 AM
Oh ... we so need this thread. I hope it has a long and educational forum life.

As far as penetration, that is the only way I can have a the big "O". However, there has to be some clitoral stimulation with the position (on top, missionary) for it to be good. I cannot orgasm just from penetration with no clitoral stimulation at some point (i.e. I've never had a 'real' orgasm from 'just' doggie style position).

I cannot come from oral, but I can with a finger to bear down on, but it's the internal stimulation that creates the orgasm, the oral part is just an added spark. I wish I could come oral. I suspect from the sensations I do get that it would be good.

I most easily orgasm from woman on top position. Missionary is a close second, and almost as good if it is the right angle and naturally includes clitoral stimulation in that angle. Reverse cowgirl hurts like h*** for me, but I have an inverted cervix (aka tipped uterus) so that's probably the reason. Any position too deep is painful. If you come at me with 6" or more I'm gonna back up, wince and cross my legs. 5 is optimal for me.

G-spot orgasms are newer to me. I like them, both with and without the waterworks., but prefer the deeper feel of a deeper penetration orgasm.

I've never 'faked' an orgasm, but I can make some noise when I get 'lost' in the feelings, and I can have several small, and different types, of mini orgasms leading up to the big one. Yes, they think those are all "orgasms", but they aren't "really". I only consider the big one 'the one'. I've heard the comment "boy, you came a lot" and didn't correct it, even though it was only 'one' and the rest was buildup, so in that sense, yes, I think some men are misguided but not corrected by women, in the least. I'm so honest that I often will say, well.... etc., but who wants a blow by blow play of what was what.

Bottom line: for me it's penetration with simultaneous clitoris stimulation for the best orgasm, and, penetration with some clitoral stimulation at some point to be able to orgasm at all (though doesn't have to be simultaneous)

I hope that's not too graphic, I feel like it's TMI, but I know what you are getting to here, and I think it's a good thing.
 Hearton64
Joined: 12/18/2012
Msg: 5
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Posted: 3/20/2013 11:00:09 AM
It may be "redundant",but so is the fact that too many men don't seem to understand our anatomy and want us in therapy to "overcum" our inability to come with them pumping away presumably so they don't have to go out of thier way to give US a clitoral orgasm and can continue to blame us for thier lack of knowledge.

If a man is too into his orgasm,I am more than capable of giving myself a manual orgasm while he's penetrating me.
I can get off many ways as long as there is clitoral stimulation.And....i refuse to give credit where credit isn't due so I refuse to fake it.

I want men to see just HOW women come and to stop making us feel as though something is WRONG with us because our anatomy doesn't allow a majority of us to orgasm without clitoral stimulation.

STOP assuming your d*ck is all we need to come.STOP saying it's 90% mental and 10% Physical.STOP forgetting that MOST of our ability to orgasm is OUTSIDE our vagina's.STOP saying you can make us come via penetration alone.STOP saying that we have not been with the "right man".Just stop already.LISTEN and LEARN.

http://www.alternet.org/story/94788/female_orgasm_and_the_need_for_a_new_definition_of_sex


The Hite Report on Female Sexuality research shows that 94 percent of women can regularly orgasm via self-stimulation (separate stimulation of the exterior vulva or pubis). So why not during sex with a partner? Because the stimulation is not done in the same way. The conclusion? The definition of sex should change to include such stimulation as a normal part of sex. This would also make sex more egalitarian, no longer exaggeratedly focused on penetration and coitus as the high point or climax of sex.

The Hite Report on Female Sexuality presents a large body of research showing that women can easily reach orgasm. The report documents, in women's own voices, how women reach orgasm privately through masturbation. The great majority of women can masturbate to orgasm and do not use penetration during masturbation. The report shows that women do not have a problem reaching orgasm, but rather that society does have a problem in accepting how women reach orgasm. Society insists that women try to have orgasm during intercourse or coitus, even though this is not the easiest way for them to reach orgasm. Clearly, they do not use vaginal stimulation or penetrate themselves during masturbation.

Of course, the vagina is a sensitive and pleasurable organ for women, given the right situation. My research does not deny that, but rather demonstrates that this pleasure does not lead to orgasm for most women. Many women enjoy intercourse as a kind of foreplay, then use specific clitoral massage to orgasm, done systematically and gently.

How should sex change? At a minimum, both women and men should get the stimulation they need for orgasm. Since women can easily orgasm via their own clitoral-area stimulation during masturbation, the same stimulation (usually by the hand or mouth of the partner) should become an equally important high point to intercourse and penetration in a new version of sex.


Notice...nothing was said about women needing therapy to make it possible to orgasm thru penetration alone.
What we need is men who care enough to get us off the way we can get off and not judge us for our methods as being lesser,dysfunctional,in need or therapy or a better man.



3ffervescent

but, my anatomy doesn't allow for penis in vagina orgasms without manual stimulation.
Personally, Cow-girl (forward or reverse) is the best position for me, as it allows for manual stimulation at the same time)
I can be 100% into it, and it still isn't going to change my anatomy...



Thanks for your input. :)

Maybe one day they will hear us.
 fieryredhead77
Joined: 12/17/2012
Msg: 6
Orgasms from penetration alone
Posted: 3/20/2013 11:00:29 AM
I don't and haven't that I can think of, faked orgasm.
As for having one, with just penetration it us very rare but can happen. I can orgasm pretty easily in general if I am on top (cowgirl) as there is clitoral stimulation.
 Hearton64
Joined: 12/18/2012
Msg: 7
Orgasms from penetration alone
Posted: 3/20/2013 11:04:27 AM
I hope that's not too graphic, I feel like it's TMI, but I know what you are getting to here, and I think it's a good thing.


It's AWESOME you can be so explicit.The details of how we all come are paramount to show the reality
that we are ALL so different and none of us orgasm incorrectly.


Bottom line: for me it's penetration with simultaneous clitoris stimulation for the best orgasm, and, penetration with some clitoral stimulation at some point to be able to orgasm at all (though doesn't have to be simultaneous)


HERE HERE!

Thanks for your input!



As for having one, with just penetration it us very rare but can happen. I can orgasm pretty easily in general if I am on top (cowgirl) as there is clitoral stimulation.



CLITS ARE US! lol
 Ray_1957
Joined: 12/11/2011
Msg: 8
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Posted: 3/20/2013 11:07:38 AM
Men can't tell when you are faking

Men that truly care and aren't all wrapped-up in themselves can 'indeed tell'...no if and or buts about it.
 Hearton64
Joined: 12/18/2012
Msg: 9
Orgasms from penetration alone
Posted: 3/20/2013 11:10:17 AM
I just found this....

http://www.lustability.com/facts.php

30. For 75% of men, ejaculation occurs within 3 minutes of penetration.

There has to be a correlation between this and the 75% of women who don't orgasm via penetration alone....lol
 wolftxusa66
Joined: 3/13/2013
Msg: 10
Orgasms from penetration alone
Posted: 3/20/2013 11:31:11 AM
I cannot tell when a woman fakes it, nor do I care. She shoots herself in the foot by giving me false feedback.

My last gf could come just from penetration, but it's rare. My guess is that most cannot.

I'm still envious about the 3-minute success. I can only achieve that by myself, otherwise I take forever or it doesn't happen at all. So what, it's still good. I used to joke that I want a premature ejaculation for Christmas. Still waiting. As long as you enjoy sex, neither stats nor technique matter. And orgasms are overrated. I prefer sex without one over masturbation every single time.

So as long as you are deeply satisfied and come from other stimulation, do you feel deprived or unlucky if you cannot achieve it a particular way? Women should consider themselves lucky. For many men, multiple orgasms means Tuesday, Friday and Saturday.
 OutMind
Joined: 2/13/2007
Msg: 11
Orgasms from penetration alone
Posted: 3/20/2013 11:37:02 AM

For 75% of men, ejaculation occurs within 3 minutes of penetration.


You're kidding me. I guess, all my 100 mile bike rides have ruined my sensitivity, since I can go on and on and on and on. I usually have a dry orgasm. Take a break, then go again for a while, then have another orgasm and then ejaculate.
 Hearton64
Joined: 12/18/2012
Msg: 12
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Posted: 3/20/2013 11:41:17 AM
I'm still envious about the 3-minute success. I can only achieve that by myself, otherwise I take forever or it doesn't happen at all. So what, it's still good. I used to joke that I want a premature ejaculation for Christmas. Still waiting. As long as you enjoy sex, neither stats nor technique matter. And orgasms are overrated. I prefer sex without one over masturbation every single time.


Well now,you are one man who might just understand what it's like to go without an orgasm during sex!

But I do appreciate your attitude and can agree that the overall act of sex without an orgasm is still better than an orgasm alone but I must say,orgasms are far from over-rated when you go without them most of the time during sex unless you get them for yourself.

My reason for starting this thread is in part to find out if I am "alone",to see just how other women get off,and to help men see just what they are 'up against" when it comes to the female orgasm and how we all differ and how none of us are dysfunctional in the way we achieve them and especially not in need of therapy to resolve our mental issues because we don't come via penetration alone.

Also,to make myself feel like less of an annomoly as I felt my WHOLE life there was something wrong with me because I didn't come thru penetration alone.Like I was broken and figured ALL other women came that way but me. :(


You asked to be a premature ejaculator for X-mas?

I have ALWAYS just wanted and hands/tongue-free orgasm for x-mas!
 Hearton64
Joined: 12/18/2012
Msg: 13
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Posted: 3/20/2013 11:44:03 AM

You're kidding me. I guess, all my 100 mile bike rides have ruined my sensitivity, since I can go on and on and on and on. I usually have a dry orgasm. Take a break, then go again for a while, then have another orgasm and then ejaculate.


My gawd....after all that I can imagine this "stat" also suits you! lol


32. The testes increase in size by 50% when a man is sexually aroused.
 Confident-Realist
Joined: 2/8/2004
Msg: 14
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Posted: 3/20/2013 12:14:09 PM

For 75% of men, ejaculation occurs within 3 minutes of penetration. There has to be a correlation between this and the 75% of women who don't orgasm via penetration alone....lol

Well the 3 minutes is a wild notion. Many articles have it from 10-15m. Some have 5-7. It all varies. If guys thought they were king-kong in bed by merely lasting 5m or more, you'd have a lot of big-headed guys running around in society!
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 15
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Posted: 3/20/2013 12:14:29 PM
1)the problem, at the root (pun intended), is yes, many guys hate to consider that their manhood ain't enough. Long before porn movies existed on the VCR. Kings blaming their wives for not bearing male heirs. Better to hold someone else accountable.

It does help if women come out of the Vagina Monologues learning their anatomy and taking some responsibility for their orgasms. I didn't say it would solve the problem, but it would help. finding sensitive men to be lovers would also help, except...see all the forum posts about sensitive men not getting dates :) lol

2)yes, improper bike seats apply stress to a man's groin. desensitize, sterilize, a lot of "ize" can occur.

3)hopefully more people will read this posting. I never understood people not wanting to learn about something that they enjoy. But then I found my curiousity from a young age about my surroundings was something few shared. Not every "pecker" "fits the bill". Some experimentation with angles of descent, approach is in order. try different positions. use the second largest sex organ you have (that's the brain, your skin is the first) to pay attention to a lover, learn what they like, allow them to feel comfortable to share that information with you. in the end:

4)you get what you invest.
 whippedboi
Joined: 3/12/2013
Msg: 16
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Posted: 3/20/2013 12:38:59 PM
how does one have penetration sex with "ZERO" clitoral stimulation? seems you'd almost have to TRY for experimental purposes, drive in but stop short 1/2" or more from your 2 bodies making contact?

in most positions there is naturally some clitoral simulation, from either the pubic bone grinding or the balls slapping..

it seems weird sometimes how people want to dissect/analyze every act, to me it takes away from the joy & spontaneity.

woman :" let me get my note-book, I have to write this down, I think I just had a 64.3% clitoral/15.7% G-spot/20% vaginal orgasm!"

maybe I should record the percentage splits between penis/balls/prostate/other for orgasms?

for the record, I cannot have a penis-only orgasm? I need my brain stimulated too!

it reminds me a bit of the over-eager, earnest English students dissecting every bit of literature, and Ernest Hemingway's retort to such analysis of "The Old Man and the Sea"

"the fish is just a fish, the man is just a man"

plus these statistics get repeated and I think exaggerated and accepted as Gospel after a while.. odd , statistically that MOST of the women I've ever been with can orgasm MOST of the time from penetration (and yes, I know)..if the 75% is valid..

often times such stats are from ONE study that MAY be flawed but it is repeated over & over & accepted as Gospel

probably a study from at least 50-60 years ago, e.g. Masters & Johnson, which have been shown to be flawed.

if true it's a wonder the human race has survived, with women really not enjoying penetrative sex..I wonder why they have not mostly gone lesbian yet?

prior to the past few generations, sex was pretty much ONLY "penetrative"..I really doubt oral sex happened much before the advent of indoor plumbing, showers, soap, etc..

back in the day when settlers were lucky to bathe once a month I doubt much oral happened.!
 lostinalostworld
Joined: 2/2/2013
Msg: 17
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Posted: 3/20/2013 12:42:09 PM
I've known several women that cum from entry alone. Then multiple orgasms for the rest of the ride. Sweet for both of us. Also a few that could never cum at all. I still feel sorry them. Each end of the bell curve, so to speak. Guess which "end" I look for..........lm"a"o!
 whippedboi
Joined: 3/12/2013
Msg: 18
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Posted: 3/20/2013 12:47:03 PM
plus "God' really f'd up then, for those who believe..if he created woman so she pretty much could not enjoy the sex act that results in babies being created, perpetuating the species. (and is thus less motivated to indulge)

or if no God, it would be rather weird how we evolved and a crucial gender in the species' survival survived without the ability to enjoy procreative sex. (?)

guys, your tongues & fingers might be 'awesome' but they are not going to create the next generation!

also, I think that if this stat comes from a flawed study that has exaggerated the percentage , those women who cannot orgasm from penetration latch on to it and repeat it over & over..

it is human nature to not want to feel 'alone" .. " see, it's not just me, I am in the majority, 75% of women cannot orgasm from penetration either! "


and for that matter, I frequently do NOT orgasm from penetrative sex (or any sex) either, not sure this is 'solely' limited to women ?

it's typically phrased as "Men will come within 5 seconds of penetration and the poor women never does.." while it may be a bigger problem for a larger number of women than men it is not so 100% one-sided
 OutMind
Joined: 2/13/2007
Msg: 19
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Posted: 3/20/2013 12:55:39 PM
I wish there was an answer to this conundrum. I known women, like my ex that would have to be stimulated and penetration for her to achieve an orgasm. Then she was able to reach them through anal. Then my ex, at first she could only achieve clitoral orgasms, then one time she had this cervical orgasm and from then on she would have one or two vaginal, and then one clitoral. My now gf does not have clitoral orgasms, she has them from penetration and can have 3 or 4 at the time.

I wish I knew what would work with every woman, but I don't.
 Bebedeleau
Joined: 2/25/2013
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Posted: 3/20/2013 1:04:20 PM

plus "God' really f'd up then, for those who believe..if he created woman so she pretty much could not enjoy the sex act that results in babies being created, perpetuating the species. (and is thus less motivated to indulge)


Ok ... since you went there. Could you imagine how painfully agonizing childbirth would be if all those nerve endings were INSIDE. It's painful enough, women still die from childbirth sometimes. "God" wold have been sadistically cruel to make the birth canal that reactive. Some men won't get STD testing because they don't want the little swab in the little hole, so use your imagine of how unrealistic that would be. The clitoris is even further protected with a hood, buried in a nook, and surrounded by protective body hair. It's not to difficult to understand. Yes, it's there to enjoy sex. "God" was just smart enough to know where to put it, IMO. It's also high up out of the way of messy mensuration issues, sorry for being so graphic, but that thing doesn't want a scrubbing every hour for 5 days. Again, that would be painful. He or She did the best He or She could, I would imagine.

I'm gonna regret posting these things, but oh well.

It's there, everybody knows what it's for, and honestly, any man who has learned anything knows too. It's just the guy guys and the sheltered ones who think constant drilling is going to get the job done. I think we all kinda outgrew that before the college days ended (at least, I hope).
 lostinalostworld
Joined: 2/2/2013
Msg: 21
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Posted: 3/20/2013 1:07:20 PM
^^^^Protective body hair? Another yuk moment.
 whippedboi
Joined: 3/12/2013
Msg: 22
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Posted: 3/20/2013 1:11:25 PM
so 'God' actually wanted men mostly to eat their woman out and use his finger(s) on her clitoris ?

well, maybe..

but if designing from 'scratch' and given your scenario, it would not be 'necessary' that the baby come out the same way the seed (sperm) went in ? we assume so, because that's the way it "IS" ?

OP., controlling much? I thought it was against the forums rules to conduct surveys

especially in the general forums , why not go to 'ask a girl' ?

especially to one gender only? Oh, well
does the OP "own" the thread"? I didn't know, sorry
 Hearton64
Joined: 12/18/2012
Msg: 23
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Posted: 3/20/2013 1:11:53 PM

the problem, at the root (pun intended), is yes, many guys hate to consider that their manhood ain't enough.


And isn't that a shame!? So both sexes walk around thinking they aren't good enough.


Hopefully more people will read this posting.


Let's hope together. :)
 Hearton64
Joined: 12/18/2012
Msg: 24
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Posted: 3/20/2013 1:16:47 PM
Whippedboi.............

This thread was made for women to compare notes on how they
orgasm and hopefully for men to get an inside scoop on our realities.
Stop thread jacking please.Thanks.
 salty_blumist
Joined: 11/26/2012
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Posted: 3/20/2013 1:24:17 PM
Hearton64,

You mean even men who have c0cks that could show up on a radar screen can't make many women cum just by penetration alone? I have troubles wrapping my head around that, as I'm sure I have made woman cum just by doing that (penetration). Damn, I must be truly gifted!!! However, I can boast having done it with my mouth and tongue as well as just by using my hand and fingers. I like to do all the oral and hand play usually in the lead up to penetration, and during the duration of sex.
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