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 ThisSpaceAvailable
Joined: 2/7/2013
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I know this is a loaded question, but with the internet full of photos taken by dogs, monkeys, and 3 year olds, I have to ask... is photography ART?

I suppose it can be broken down into 3 categories:
1. Capturing reality (a bird or sunset or something)
2. Photoshopping a basic photograph
3. Purposely creating a scene / mood with props/lighting and such for the shot.


Personally, I'd say #3 is ART. #2 could be... but hell, even I've gone around clicking different tools in photoshop and accidentally created interesting images, even though I didn't know what I was doing. #1 isn't at all (in my opinion); it's just copying reality and it takes very little (if any) skill.


What say all of you?
 motown_cowgirl
Joined: 12/22/2011
Msg: 2
Is Photography art?
Posted: 6/19/2013 9:20:24 AM
that's like asking if painting is an art when the internet is full of paintings made by cats and 3-year-olds and mental patients and monkeys and Jackson Pollock.

if photography can't be art, then why am I not every bit as admired and famous as Dorothea Lange or Walker Evans or Diane Arbus just because I picked up a camera and started taking photos of random anonymous people? point and shoot, right??? none of the people I named were at all skilled. bunch of hacks, really.
 import_from_UK
Joined: 3/20/2013
Msg: 3
Is Photography art?
Posted: 6/19/2013 11:34:31 AM

Is Photography art?


Yes. But like any form of art, not all work is good. There's art in capturing an image, whatever medium is used. Some use photographs, some use paint, pencils, charcoal, sculpture. Anyone with the skills to capture a scene and have it tell a story has produced art. Not all of us will like some forms. Not all of us will appreciate the same image.
 SpringsDiver
Joined: 11/26/2012
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Posted: 6/19/2013 12:17:47 PM
All three of your examples could be art. As for #1, it's not so much as what is captured, but how it is captured that will determine artistic merit. I believe some photographs (digitally altered or not) have more artistic merit than others. If someone dips the feet of a chimp in paint and the chimp walks around a canvas, is that art? If someone randomly throws paint from a brush or other object onto a canvas, is that art? Maybe it only seems random, but the person doing it has put tremendous thought into the process and has developed exceptional technique. That might make a difference when it comes to defining it as "art".

I think artistic merit could be found in any photograph, but I would not consider all photographs art. Someone else might consider the photos I dismiss as not being art as being exceptional art. It's the same with all mediums. The intent of the person taking the photograph or digitally altering it comes into play. The techniques used come into play. If someone uses a DSLR on full auto to take a photo of a child playing, is it art or a snapshot. What if they used creative composition or varied the depth of field for creative effect. That might result in a photo that could be considered art.


Yes. But like any form of art, not all work is good.


I agree with Import. To take it further, what one person thinks is good, someone else (obviously) might not appreciate. What is not appreciated in our lifetime might be appreciated by and considered art by future generations. How many artists are there whose work was never appreciated during their lifetime, and now is sold for millions of Dollars?
 Sweet_Danimal
Joined: 6/22/2012
Msg: 5
Is Photography art?
Posted: 6/19/2013 10:33:13 PM
Art is finding good composition in something you can show and share with others.

The difference between an 'artistic' photo and a basic snapshot can be as simple as tilting the camera slightly to change the angle or lighting. When I do group photos for friends and relatives and such, I find the best-looking, most natural smiles and expressions are always found a few seconds BEFORE people all face the camera and say, "Cheese."

I think some people feel photography - especially in the digital age - requires very little effort to produce, so people who don't need to work hard at 'earning' their composition get snubbed by those who spend hours, days and even years making the paint, clay, and steel do what they want. It's kind of like saying Soccer is not a real sport, because all you need are some shoes and a ball to play. We know damn well that Soccer IS a sport, and a damn popular one at that -- so recognizing photography - it's all it's glorious simplicity - as an art - should be easily recognized.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 6
Is Photography art?
Posted: 6/20/2013 7:42:04 AM
Is Photography art?

What is not art?




I know this is a loaded question, but with the internet full of photos taken by dogs, monkeys, and 3 year olds, I have to ask... is photography ART?

Yes and No.

Photography can be art, but also a photograph is not necessarily art.

As what something is, does not define it as art, its relation to other things is what makes it art.

Art is like porn, you know it when you see it.
 motown_cowgirl
Joined: 12/22/2011
Msg: 7
Is Photography art?
Posted: 6/20/2013 7:48:02 AM
of course, there is always good porn and bad art. i'm sure this will complicate things for the OP just a little.


I suppose it can be broken down into 3 categories:
1. Capturing reality (a bird or sunset or something)
2. Photoshopping a basic photograph
3. Purposely creating a scene / mood with props/lighting and such for the shot.

Personally, I'd say #3 is ART. #2 could be... but hell, even I've gone around clicking different tools in photoshop and accidentally created interesting images, even though I didn't know what I was doing. #1 isn't at all (in my opinion); it's just copying reality and it takes very little (if any) skill.


how many ways can i disagree with you just for sport???
#3 is not necessarily art because having the technical skills to set up a shot doesn't automatically lead to something that's art, just like being able to mimic 3-d space one dimensionally via the use of perspective, foreshadowing and vanishing points doesn't make anyone who understands those concepts and picks up a paintbrush the next Nicholas Poussin.

#2 is a technique, again techniques in themselves don't automatically lead to art.

#1 could be art even if it's completely unintended. art usually requires some sort of skill, but it never absolutely demands it.
 _babblefish
Joined: 9/23/2011
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Posted: 6/20/2013 8:40:21 AM


Personally, I'd say #3 is ART. #2 could be... but hell, even I've gone around clicking different tools in photoshop and accidentally created interesting images, even though I didn't know what I was doing. #1 isn't at all (in my opinion); it's just copying reality and it takes very little (if any) skill.


was Ansel Adams a copier of reality with little or no skill ?
 tickle_me_pank
Joined: 9/6/2012
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Posted: 6/20/2013 9:05:14 AM
What say all of you?

OP, is that ginormous metallic orb one of your works of art???
So what makes that "art"? I don't get it. Looks just like an overgrown ball bearing to me. Why would I want that out on my front lawn when I can go to Lowe's and buy those by the pound and sit around looking at them in a pickle jar on my desk all day?
 Hamilton12345
Joined: 3/29/2012
Msg: 10
Is Photography art?
Posted: 7/1/2013 4:21:29 PM
I am in the process of going through 3000 photo to determine which ones should be printed as a wedding present for my son and his fiancée. These are photo a family friends has taken of cityscapes, abandoned buildings etc. If I had my say, they would all be enlarged since they are all works of art.

It is amazing what a camera and a talented eye can do. So you photography is art. And not just when you set up the scene.
 soulfull47
Joined: 11/16/2009
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Posted: 7/20/2013 9:54:11 PM
Yes photography is art,

Anything creative is art, the tools to create it is what you seem to struggle with.
From a camera, to a computer, to a paint brush etc., all that is created from the "tools" is the art.
Talent is in how well you use them to create a beautiful art piece!

Chuckling over the question because I've seen it before. I create hybrid selective digital painting and photos, it is part photograph, part digital painting.
Is it a photo, is it a painting, is it art?

Peace!
 Space_Weaver
Joined: 11/27/2012
Msg: 12
Is Photography art?
Posted: 7/21/2013 1:06:26 AM
I myself would be considered an artist. I acknowledge that photography is art, yet just as art done from a computer, it is the most watered down medium. To me it is about having a vision from the mind put down by hand and creating life on something that was blank.
 Hamilton12345
Joined: 3/29/2012
Msg: 13
Is Photography art?
Posted: 7/21/2013 9:10:34 AM

I myself would be considered an artist. I acknowledge that photography is art, yet just as art done from a computer, it is the most watered down medium. To me it is about having a vision from the mind put down by hand and creating life on something that was blank


I guess you just don't see the vision that the photographer had. Put 1o people in a room with cameras and tell them to take pictures. If 9 of them are just people with cameras and the 10th is a photographer. You will get 9 sets of everyday picture and some true art from the photographer. Just because it is not the medium that you use does not make it art.

I design jewellery, (art), but am in total awe of my friends who can create art with the camera. No matter how hard I try and how many classes I take, I still just take pictures.
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