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 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
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Alberta election results see NDP's orange wave sweep Alberta in historic win

http://www.cbc.ca/news/elections/alberta-votes/alberta-election-results-see-ndp-s-orange-wave-sweep-alberta-in-historic-win-1.3062605

Jebus... this is big... The NDP just stomped the crap out of every right-wing party in Alberta... In Alberta...!

For the Americans... that's like Socialist Party candidates unseating the Republicans... in the State House and Executive... in Texas (it's not a perfect analogy but it will do)...

This hugely shifts the political landscape... not just in Alberta but nationally as well... for years to come...
 shirleywonton01
Joined: 4/30/2015
Msg: 2
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Posted: 5/5/2015 10:53:45 PM
Wow, that's huge. It'll be interesting.
 8inscrew
Joined: 11/17/2014
Msg: 3
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Posted: 5/6/2015 12:38:27 AM
I just hope no one feeds you joe... haha.
Quite, oh how you do bitter.

Bitters
Bitterness
*my fav* oh how you have bittered.


bitter Betty bitter bitch
stop trolling joe.
Staunch isn't a complimentary position.
 etourdi65
Joined: 8/20/2014
Msg: 4
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Posted: 5/6/2015 4:40:05 AM
Based on the posts of the Canadians who post on these forums the NDP victories are not surprising...I am sure the OP voted for them.
 2015cashmere
Joined: 4/16/2015
Msg: 5
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Posted: 5/6/2015 7:12:35 AM
^^^ The OP is from Ontario and can't vote in an Alberta election but nice attempt at a smack with no ooph behind it.

I'm not a fan of the NDP but at times a change is good. At most, its 4 years. The Conservatives obviously pissed off a lot of the folks that were tried and true Conservatives in the past. It was a resounding victory for the NDP, the Conservatives came in 3rd and the voter turnout was 60%. Interesting turn of events.
 Mz_Dressup
Joined: 11/15/2014
Msg: 6
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Posted: 5/6/2015 8:07:01 AM
If only PEI could have said the same thing after our provincial election this past Monday.
 tinkerbellcgy
Joined: 9/17/2005
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Posted: 5/6/2015 9:16:59 AM
I awoke this morning to see a bright orange sunrise here in Calgary as did the rest of Alberta. It was a glorious sight!

I am more of an Alberta Party and/or Liberal supporter than I am an NDP supporter but Alberta desperately needed to punt Prentice and his Cons and the NDP was a strategic and viable vote to facilitate that change. The people of Alberta spoke last night and they spoke loudly and with conviction.

Interestingly, when Prentice lost the election but won his seat he decided to not only step down as PC leader but also quit his riding seat before all the votes were counted even though at the end of the night he had won his riding. Talk about sour grapes of a quitter and taking his bat and ball and skedaddling outta the sandbox when he's losing. I guess that's how dictators act. Now, we need to get to work on ridding Canada of Harper.

Clearly, the Cons got conned by themselves in the Alberta election and it looks good on what's left of them.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
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Posted: 5/6/2015 9:26:14 AM
Finally! The Conservatives had become far too arrogant, especially with Redford and her spending sprees and figuring she didn't have to account to anyone, and her replacement, Prentice, telling the citizens to look in the mirror for HIS party's mismanagement (I guess it's half-azzed true - we kept voting the party in). In this case, it wasn't a matter of "better the devil you know". The NDP will have a lot to prove with their new power and that will hopefully equate to good news for Alberta citizens if they wish to retain their majority. Will be nice if they tax corporations the extra 2% they stated in their platform - not enough to over-burden business at the same time as not overburdening everyone else - as long as they can stay away from a Provincial Sales Tax.

I guess hell did freeze over...we have snow in the Capital today!
 overunity
Joined: 8/16/2014
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Posted: 5/6/2015 10:17:49 AM
I wish Ontario would wake up FFS.
 Dee4166
Joined: 6/16/2007
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Posted: 5/8/2015 11:05:40 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^

There IS hope....Look what happened here in Quebec.....

At this point I would vote the JANITOR in before Harper AGAIN....

Time for those bozos to do the 'fade out'.....
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 11
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Posted: 5/9/2015 7:30:50 AM
What's interesting is that Albertans elected a government that promised higher taxes. There's a recognition in the need for government and public services combined with the need to pay for them.

I live in a province with the lowest personal taxes in the country, and the lowest corporate taxes in North America. We can't build a frickin bridge here without a toll as a result. If you can't afford to build a bridge, then taxes are too low.
 Dee4166
Joined: 6/16/2007
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Posted: 5/9/2015 8:00:41 AM
Yeah...let's just keep that on the QT for now....

I'm planning on becoming a resident there in the next few weeks...and I'm looking forward to those low personal taxes....LOL
 tinkerbellcgy
Joined: 9/17/2005
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Posted: 5/9/2015 9:00:40 AM

What's interesting is that Albertans elected a government that promised higher taxes. There's a recognition in the need for government and public services combined with the need to pay for them.

As an Albertan, I personally don't have a problem with paying a higher tax to support essential public services such as health care and education which benefit the taxpayer. While I certainly cannot speak for all Albertans, I think what the election results did show was that Albertans are no longer willing to pay more in order for the corporations to reap benefits from the overburdened taxpayer. It is now time for the corporations to step up to the plate and pay their fair share of taxes too.

The good ol' boys Con government were in bed with the corporations and would never raise corporate taxes lest they lose their support - both financial and otherwise. The new NDP government is showing that it is a government for the people, by the people and intends to very moderately raise the corporate tax which is long overdue. There may very well be some minor fallout from this but I suspect it will be of little consequence.

I think the bottom line for * most * Albertans is that we don't mind paying for what we are receiving but we do object to paying for what we will never expect to receive or to reap the benefits from. I am also of the opinion that Alberta will see a sales tax imposed and, again, this will be necessary for Alberta to dig its way out of the sea of red that the Conservatives have burdened the taxpayers with for the benefit of the corporations.
 CharminC
Joined: 2/19/2011
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Posted: 5/9/2015 9:26:17 AM

Now, we need to get to work on ridding Canada of Harper.



.....taking Clark of BC with him
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
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Posted: 5/9/2015 9:50:14 AM
Personally, I think our whole political system in North America and the people in it, has gone completely sideways. As individuals, we have to look at our values of today, and then look in the mirror at why we vote the way we do. We listen to the shiat that the politicians of today throw at us, and then vote accordingly to that shiat. How phucked are we? And how phucked is a system that rewards those that can generate enough money to get that shiat to us, and make us believe the shiat?

How come it took 44 years in Alberta? 44 years??????????

That is at least a little scary, isn't it?
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
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Posted: 5/9/2015 10:23:26 AM

How come it took 44 years in Alberta? 44 years??????????

That is at least a little scary, isn't it?

Yes... and no...

Alberta WAS dominated by the Social Credit for near 40 years (anyone remember what year it was before the airlines stopped having to cut off liquor service over Alberta?)... In that light even the PC were a step up...

And with so much of the oil industry having been dominated by transplanted Americans... mostly from very conservative locales... like the US south/south-west... It isn't really surprising...

But yes... it is a bit scary...

But hey... this new change is likely to dramatically change the national conversation regarding climate change, energy policy and social policy... The feds really don't have much to hope for in terms of provincial support on those fronts anymore...
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 17
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Posted: 5/10/2015 5:44:57 AM

But hey... this new change is likely to dramatically change the national conversation regarding climate change, energy policy and social policy... The feds really don't have much to hope for in terms of provincial support on those fronts anymore


Fingers crossed and hoping for sure!!!!

I was hoping common sense alone would have opened peoples' eyes there but, I guess it was just the little "crash" that got them thinking a bit? The free for all that they have been living is/was, far from sustainable. I'm looking to the sky that this election day gives me and others a little bit of hope for those living on the other side of the mountains.
 bryincalgary
Joined: 2/25/2015
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Posted: 5/10/2015 7:01:38 AM
Don't anybody book a Magical Mystery Tour just yet.This is the Alberta brand of the NDP,they understand things have to make sense for the oil patch and the economy.Let Quebec and Ontario march on with their green plans,Quebec can destroy their James Bay dams and return the land to the natives and the caribou if they are serious .Harper has been the best PM in a generation but you still have people feeling oppressed when they can't buy their fave sex toy in the color of their choice before noon on a Sunday fcs.
 _babblefish
Joined: 9/23/2011
Msg: 19
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Posted: 5/10/2015 10:22:33 AM
i hope bill c-51 Harper pooped his depends over this election
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