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 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 1
Mr Trump... Build That Wall...!Page 1 of 9    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9)

Donald Trump's first policy paper calls for U.S.-Mexico wall
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The eight-page paper on immigration threatens the government of Mexico, the business community and millions of families living in the U.S. under uncertain legal status.
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He would triple the number of U.S. immigration officers; end jobs visas for foreign students; defund so-called sanctuary cities that shelter undocumented migrants; detain and deport undocumented migrants; suspend the granting of green cards until more unemployed Americans enter the work force; and, in one of its more controversial proposals, end automatic citizenship for babies born in the U.S.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/donald-trump-s-first-policy-paper-calls-for-u-s-mexico-wall-1.3192960

The "bones" have been "tossed"... and the "good little puppies" are in full "fetch" mode...

The teabaggers have their "white knight" for sure now... Goodbye Republicans... While all the "good little puppies" are off "fetching the bones"... the Dems are walking away with the store...

Good planning there guys...
 LLove2LaughToo
Joined: 3/5/2011
Msg: 2
Mr Trump... Build That Wall...!
Posted: 8/16/2015 12:31:46 PM
I think Trump is digging his own hole. America is not Nazi Germany.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 3
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Posted: 8/16/2015 12:38:08 PM
Looks like he wants to destroy the American economy.

Take just one thing there: suspend the granting of green cards until more unemployed Americans enter the work force.

It's not exactly easy to get a green card now. Most green cards are issued to people who have skills that are in short supply in the US. So, someone who wants to build and staff a technical research facility will do it offshore. There are highly specialized professions that go into the design and construction of these things - there are enough Americans to do it, but they work in a global market. Half of them are working on contract in Norway or Indonesia. And there are Indians and Czechs brought in and issued green cards to do the work in the US.

Same thing happens once the facility is built. The best people are recruited all over the world.

There won't be another auto plant built in the US if this is introduced, as an example.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 4
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Posted: 8/16/2015 12:43:28 PM
Its ironic that Randall Paul was supposed to be the teabag favorite.

George Will, self proclaimed spokesman of the William F Buckley part of the GOP, is concerned about what Trump's popularity says about the GOP and its status for the near future.

meanwhile, anyone who's ever had a vegetable garden, knows what happens when that wall goes up--immigrants will "go Cuban" and swim around it.
 funchesf
Joined: 6/27/2014
Msg: 5
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Posted: 8/16/2015 1:00:12 PM

meanwhile, anyone who's ever had a vegetable garden, knows what happens when that wall goes up--immigrants will "go Cuban" and swim around it.

or go "El Chapo" and tunnel under it
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 6
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Posted: 8/16/2015 1:23:49 PM

or go "El Chapo" and tunnel under it

Oh please... I'm sure he's already got that one figure out... hi-tech sensors... mine fields... automated gun emplacements... trenches filled with live rattlesnakes... and don't forget the "patriot militias"...
 BialaPolska
Joined: 5/20/2015
Msg: 7
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Posted: 8/16/2015 1:32:11 PM
Trump is far from a " Knight". Not quite a page , however , he brings up a good subject. When can deportation and interment camps for the felons begin?
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 8
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Posted: 8/16/2015 4:21:18 PM
Funche and Biala-

I would like your take on Black Sisters for Trump.

Is it a spoof or evidence of the undercurrent that got B. Clinton the nomination


On another note:
Wasn't there an illegal walkout in California and nothing much happened to the local economy?
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 9
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Posted: 8/16/2015 4:30:21 PM
If Trump were to convince congress to build a southern border wall at the cost of about $7.5 to $15 million per mile for the entire 1,933 miles of southern border it would be an amazing feat. Should that happen I'm sure that Trump would go back to his general contractor roots and hire illegals, again, to perform the work at lower than minimum wage. And after completion he would staff the wall with more illegals in order to keep costs down.


Wasn't there an illegal walkout in California and nothing much happened to the local economy?


I'm trying to figure out if you're says illegals engaged in a work stoppage...or there was an illegal work stoppage...do you proof read what you write?


Black Sisters for Trump


I don't know how they can use the plural for sisters when there's only one.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 10
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Posted: 8/16/2015 4:37:37 PM

And after completion he would staff the wall with more illegals in order to keep costs down.


Based on his previous business dealings, he would never do that without declaring bankruptcy first.
 BialaPolska
Joined: 5/20/2015
Msg: 11
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Posted: 8/16/2015 5:03:44 PM
Based upon previous political deals. Anti Whites should love the Don. Billy Clinton and him were buds , remember when? The wall is nice ; machine gun turrets are nicer. What exactly is it that anti white posters like Irish fear from Trump? A better job market for our young ?
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 12
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Posted: 8/16/2015 5:18:37 PM
ROFLMAO

Trump hired illegals to build his casinos and then stiffed the creditors 4 times when he didn't want to pay the debt service...as a president how can we expect him to lead our country any different then he's run his buisness.

Teapuppets don't understand that Trump plays to their angry hatred and has no ability nor intention of following through on his "promises"
 8inscrew
Joined: 11/17/2014
Msg: 13
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Posted: 8/16/2015 7:06:50 PM
Illegals refused to work for a day, Irish. It was bigger than just CA.
Problem was Dee, very few did.

Too many other ones would have taken their jobs after they were fired.

They tried to strike like a union, but turns out.... they are the scabs.



He could make them build the wall, or do support work before deporting them.
Maybe a year of hard labor would give them pause before returning.
He could make second time offenders do two years, and so on.....

That would keep costs down.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 14
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Posted: 8/16/2015 7:30:26 PM

He could make them build the wall, or do support work before deporting them.


If Trump were truly smart (or astute) about this; he would stop talking nonsense about building a wall, and instead talk about using Drone technology to monitor the border. We already this technology up and running, and is far cheaper than building a wall and staffing it. The drones can pick out the most minute images of those in motion heading towards the border and relay this to border control dispatch; who then can summon an intercept force with multiple capabilities at the site of entry. If the 'illegals' are armed thugs transporting contraband, then they can be engaged(with or without back-up); or if they are plain peasants they can be caught and sent to a processing center [where medical care can be given if needed] and from which they can be sent to a designated transport facility for re-patriation. This is likely the most efficient & most humane way of dealing with the problem of illegal entry. We would need more technology & man power to carry this out!

Unlike years past, I believe underground tunneling can now be detected by sensors.
Arrival by boat can also be detected by air surveillance and can be intercepted before they come ashore.
 villabolos
Joined: 7/24/2015
Msg: 15
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Posted: 8/17/2015 1:41:06 PM
Israel has a wall with barbed wire laced on top on their border.
Hungary is building a wall on their border.
China has a wall on their border with North Korea.
Those countries just did it. They didn't look for approval.
For some unknown reason, it won't work for the United States.
If a wall laced with barbed wire on top will force them to build more tunnels, by all means force them to build more tunnels.
A lot fewer people can go through tunnels than walking across a border.
Make it harder on them, make it much, much harder on them.

There is nothing that is going to be 100%. A wall with barbed wired laced on the top is a pretty good start.

Prisons use walls with barbed wire on top. Very, very, very few escape from them.

What we have now is an utter disaster. Doing nothing except criticizing and saying it won't work because el chapo escaped does not a fix or help fix a problem.

Drones are a pipe dream in solving the problem. The floodgates are open.

You have to start somewhere. A wall will be a huge first step.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 16
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Posted: 8/17/2015 1:46:49 PM

For some unknown reason, it won't work for the United States.


Probably because the vast majority of illegals that are in the USA came over the boarder legally and as such building a wall would be beyond stupid.




Drones are a pipe dream in solving the problem. The floodgates are open.


When you understand that the US boarder services currently has more assets than most countries have for their entire military and for the most part very few are coming across illegally you will well on your way to understanding.
 funchesf
Joined: 6/27/2014
Msg: 17
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Posted: 8/17/2015 1:49:08 PM

Posted By: mungojoe_
Oh please... I'm sure he's already got that one figure out... hi-tech sensors... mine fields... automated gun emplacements... trenches filled with live rattlesnakes... and don't forget the "patriot militias"...

and webcams hooked to hungry feral cats for a new desert reality show "The Apprentice 2, hunting illegals"


Posted By: deetristate
Funche and Biala-

I would like your take on Black Sisters for Trump.

their race and/or gender shouldn't matter ...er...well as long as they are not Mexican or Rosie O'Donnell, but the Sisters for Trump do tend to rant on and on about nothing which might explain why they are for Trump



Is it a spoof or evidence of the undercurrent that got B. Clinton the nomination

every election bring these type of horrors....,examples are Billy Beer, Obama Girl, Joe the Plumber ...and the worst of them all... Sarah Palin


Posted By: Yule_liquor
If Trump were truly smart (or astute) about this; he would stop talking nonsense about building a wall,

I'm surprise he hasn't mention building a wall or reef around Florida


and instead talk about using Drone technology to monitor the border.

that would play right into Rand Paul hands when once upon a time Rand Paul was trying to push the Obama Administration into some type of strange arrangement that Drones wouldn't be used domestically against American citizens ...which is inevitable
 BialaPolska
Joined: 5/20/2015
Msg: 18
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Posted: 8/17/2015 2:09:11 PM
Troops need to be pulled from elsewhere and re stationed at the border. Dr. Duke called for this 20 yrs ago. Our first duty is border protection. 1 in 4 mexicans now resides in mexifornia. Obonga will never become enough of an Alpha to use troops ; some say he is complicit in genocide. Consequently , the break off of the New America will begin with a hispanic annexation of the Western States. Blacks flee to the Southeast or cities. Leaving the left and east coast for anti Whites. So called "Red State , Fly over America" remains White and Christian. Controlling food , water and hydro. Balkanazation has started. Look at the numbers. The population of the Smokies has exponentially increased. All Whites. The Ozarks , as well. Organically. Sans legislation , not judicial and not gerrymandered. White folks voting with their feet ; the result of forced immigration , forced assimilation and forced integration. My favorite story takes me to a small town boasting a non white population of 5. A mexican restaurant. Crimes reported last year ; 0. 3 cops. Now ,substituting as maintenance workers for summer vacation. Tax money ; well spent. Red State America ; gotta love her.
 villabolos
Joined: 7/24/2015
Msg: 19
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Posted: 8/17/2015 2:11:18 PM
I love how people from Canada are illegal immigration experts.
Your words are big, but they have no depth or substance to them.
Where do you get all your information, planned parenthood press releases??

I do agree with an earlier post that said you are a hired hack of this web site.
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 20
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Posted: 8/17/2015 2:33:48 PM

I love how people from Canada are illegal immigration experts.
Your words are big, but they have no depth or substance to them.
Where do you get all your information, planned parenthood press releases??

I do agree with an earlier post that said you are a hired hack of this web site.

Do you know what I love...? Seeing the utter stupidity that teabaggers are so good at... Makes me "bust a gut" every time...

And then wonder how they managed to survive into adulthood... One would expect that their parents... would have "forgotten" them on vacation... rather than spend their lives having to shrug their shoulders and say... "I don't know whose he is. Sure as hell ain't mine."... and then try to sneak him to the car before anyone notices...
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 21
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Posted: 8/17/2015 2:58:35 PM

I love how people from Canada are illegal immigration experts.
Your words are big, but they have no depth or substance to them.
Where do you get all your information, planned parenthood press releases??

I do agree with an earlier post that said you are a hired hack of this web site.


What ever you do, make sure you do not actually refute anything said, just go full derp.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 22
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Posted: 8/17/2015 3:23:33 PM
Villa-

You may find this interesting.http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/immigration/2015/03/24/canada-faces-dramatic-drop-in-citizenship-prompting-concerns-about-disengaged-immigrants.html
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 23
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Posted: 8/17/2015 6:07:44 PM

You may find this interesting


I did find it interesting. In fact I read the whole article rather than just the headline.

From your article:


Citizenship and Immigration Canada spokesperson Johanne Nadeau said Canada has one of the highest naturalization rates in the world, “as 86 per cent of eligible permanent residents for Canadian citizenship decide to acquire it.”
She suggested the Griffith is misinterpreting the data because “he is not taking into account those (permanent residents) who are not yet eligible to become citizens because they haven’t met all of the requirements needed to begin the citizenship process.


But, what's the cost of removing all illegal aliens?


In March, American Action Forum, a center-right policy institute led by former CBO director Douglas Holtz-Eakin, estimated it would take between $100 billion and $300 billion to arrest and remove "all undocumented immigrants residing in the country, a process that we estimate would take 20 years," the group said.

Once those undocumented immigrants had been removed, it would take another $315 billion in higher enforcing costs to keep them from coming back, according to AAF.
That estimate includes just the hard cost of removing undocumented workers; it doesn't take into account the economic impact that would result from the removal of some 11 million people from the labor force and the resulting loss of consumer spending.

AAF estimated the removal of that many people would shrink the pool of U.S. workers by 6.4 percent, which means that 20 years from now the U.S. economy would be nearly 6 percent cent smaller. That works out to a loss of $1.6 trillion in lost wages, spending and other economic activity.


from CNBC
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 24
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Posted: 8/17/2015 9:12:27 PM

I did find it interesting. In fact I read the whole article rather than just the headline.

From your article:

Ah... but Irish... you left out the better part... Even though the effect may not be as large as predicted... there is one there...

And why is that effect there...? He explains quite clearly...

TLast year, Ottawa twice raised the citizenship processing fee: from $100 per adult, to $300 in February and $530 in December. Successful candidates must also pay another $100 “Right of Citizenship” fee to actually become citizens.
....

“When you make it more difficult for some communities to become citizens, you are going to create issues with their engagement, attachment and identity of Canada,” said Griffith.

What that is saying is... Any problems with "their engagement, attachment and identity of Canada"... were much less of an issue... UNTIL the conservative gov't started "playing with" the immigration rules to create it...

In other words... this "cultural disengagement" is the direct result of right-wing "solutions"... to a partisan-created "immigration crisis"... The "tough immigration rules" are creating the very problems they were IMAGINED as resolving...
 BialaPolska
Joined: 5/20/2015
Msg: 25
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:17:58 AM
^ Once the "old amierika" has been totally balkanazied ; anti white cuckholds will be able to raise brown babies in various inner city environs.
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