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 DessertTray
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Turkey Shelling into Syria; Directly Attacking Syrian Arab Army and perimeter of Russian Base in Latakia
FIGHTING HAS BEGUN !!!!

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/886

It appears that World War 3 is beginning right now. This morning, Turkish Artillery began shelling positions outside of Azzaz, Syria. Those positions are held by the Syrian Arab Army (legitimate, duly-elected government of Syria) and are NOT being aimed at ISIS terrorists! These are direct attacks by Turkey upon the lawful government forces of Syria.With their rebel pals falling to the legitimate government of Syria, Turkey has now begun shelling into Syria to aid their Rebel forces and ISIS Terrorists!

Sources on the ground inside Syria tell SuperStation95 that the Turks began a furious artillery barrage at about 6:00 AM eastern US time today. Turkey is attacking the Kurdish YPG .

It is unclear at this time, whether the YPG is pro-Bashar Assad and his duly elected government, but it is clear that YPG directly engaged and destroyed ISIS in past battles. So on the surface, it appears that YPG are the "good guys" and Turkey is attacking them!

It is not known if Russian air forces will engage the artillery firing into Syria because to do so would mean attacking those forces located inside Turkey. If Russia were to attack them - even though they have lawful cause to do so -- it is clear that Turkey would cry to NATO that they had been "attacked" and try to invoke Article 5 of the NATO self-defense agreement. That would require NATO to come to the defense of Turkey, thus engaging Russia directly.

One intelligence source in the US, who must remain anonymous - told SuperStation95 "This has disaster written all over it."
 caballerosiempre
Joined: 12/5/2015
Msg: 2
Turkey Shelling into Syria
Posted: 2/14/2016 4:24:57 PM
Yes it appeared to start in ~1991 as well, first Gulf War..many times since

THE SKY IS FALLING!

some people love drama..?
 vlad dracul
Joined: 4/30/2009
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Turkey Shelling into Syria
Posted: 2/15/2016 3:52:52 AM
Syria explained.

"President Assad (who is bad) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the rebels (who are good) started winning.

But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State (who are definitely bad) and some continued to support democracy (who are still good).

So the Americans (who are good) started bombing Islamic State (who are bad) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels (who are good) so they could fight Assad (who is still bad) which was good.

By the way, there is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight IS (which is a good thing) but the Turkish authorities think they are bad, so we have to say they are bad whilst secretly thinking they're good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter.

Getting back to Syria. President Putin (bad, as he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks including that nice Russian man in London with polonium) has decided to back Assad (who is still bad) by attacking IS (who are also bad) which is sort of a good thing?

But Putin (still bad) thinks the Syrian Rebels (who are good) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans (who are good) who are busy backing and arming the rebels (who are also good).

Now Iran (who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons and bomb Israel are now good) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad (still bad) as are the Russians (bad) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria.

So, a Coalition of Assad (still bad) Putin (extra bad) and the Iranians (good, but in a bad sort of way) are going to attack IS (who are bad) which is a good thing, but also the Syrian Rebels (who are good) which is bad.

Now the British (obviously good, except Corbyn who is probably bad) and the Americans (also good) cannot attack Assad (still bad) for fear of upsetting Putin (bad) and Iran (good / bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS (who are super bad).

So Assad (bad) is now probably good, being better than IS (no real choice there) and since Putin and Iran are also fighting IS that may now make them good. America (still good) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr Putin (now good) and that mad ayatollah in Iran (also good) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS (still the only constantly bad group).

To Sunni Muslims, an attack by Shia Muslims (Assad and Iran) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War, and the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as good (doh!).

Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal (might have a point) and hence we will be seen as bad.

So now we have America (now bad) and Britain (also bad) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels (bad) many of whom are looking to IS (good / bad) for support against Assad (now good) who, along with Iran (also good) and Putin (also, now, unbelievably, good ) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started?

This should clear it all up for you. Almost"
http://www.702.co.za/articles/6301/syria-situation-explained
 DameWrite
Joined: 2/27/2010
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Turkey Shelling into Syria
Posted: 2/15/2016 6:36:07 AM
The Kurds need their own country. A 3 state solution?
 caballerosiempre
Joined: 12/5/2015
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Posted: 2/15/2016 7:55:26 AM
^^

Why must borders be defined by hazy concepts of "race" or "ethnicity"??

Can't we all hold hands and sing Kumbayah??

why not One World Government? Or no government?

We are all sisters and brothers under the skin..much more similar than different. .
 caballerosiempre
Joined: 12/5/2015
Msg: 6
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Posted: 2/15/2016 7:56:23 AM
Good people /neighbors don't need fences..nor national borders..amirite?.
 DameWrite
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Posted: 2/15/2016 8:40:45 AM
GOOD people and those that have enough, have regained trust, aren't busy bodies or fearful and those that are themselves trustworthy, will not want borders or fences, as they won't need them, (fences just get in the way of helping each other out and jumping a fence, trying to cross borders into safety, or getting "handled" isn't fun), but until EVERYONE has enough and we can start trusting each other...it seems that those who are afraid of being ousted, bombed, "invaded" want their own country. You can thank the "religious" for no small part in that.

Peace and sharing the wealth will take time. (especially when so many fight it all the way). Until then, the option of sharing land mass with others, (instead of bombing for territory) seems like a better option.
 caballerosiempre
Joined: 12/5/2015
Msg: 8
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Posted: 2/17/2016 3:33:10 AM
^^

Yes, peace and sharing worked out so well in the Socialist People's Utopias of USSR, PRC, DDR, DPRK, et al.

Whenever "The People" become more important than actual people, human persons, human beings..

It means that some "bosses" have taken over to decide what's good for The People, they being too dumb to know for themselves.

We need more kind, generous mass murderers to lead The People.. Kind Leaders like Josef Stalin, Mao Tse-Tung, Pol Pot, Kim Jong-un , and Kim Jong-il, etc..

Note how so many Socialist People's Democratic Paradises are so lovely they must ban their citizens from ever leaving, legally..or use threats and armed force to keep them within, as slaves to The State ( err, The People)

The DDR - German Democratic Republic was such a Paradise that they built a great Wall to keep people in East Berlinz complete with guard towers and machine gun nests to shoot anyone trying to escape..The Socialist Paradise of Cuba had people risking, and often losing, their lives in leaky small boats to escape.

But of course anyone trying to leave was a sick, mentally ill Counter-Revolutionary.

They only needed to be re-educated ( tortured and/or killed)..

Life would have been a little tougher not being a Party Member, especially of The Inner Party.

"Everyone is equal..but some are more Equal than others"- those doing the Divine Work of The Party..
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 9
Turkey Shelling into Syria
Posted: 2/17/2016 5:19:25 AM
It is not fear (overused,meaningless now) as much as self preservation and concern for what your kids will live with.

If people in Syria were concerned for their kids, there would have been no "rebellion" against Assad.

Sometimes a benevolent dictator is better than what is left. See Iraq, eqypt, etc.

Of course turkey is bombing. They want a religious state., which is different from religious freedom
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