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 memtoo
Joined: 6/2/2016
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There is so much coming out on Donald Trump being a fraud, that he deserves his own fraud thread. I wonder if there is a possibility they will indict the **stard:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-charities-fraud-laws-224510
 duracell_bunny_one
Joined: 1/21/2015
Msg: 2
Donald Trump is a Fraud Thread
Posted: 6/27/2016 11:18:22 AM
Good luck with that then....
be sure to let us know how it turns out.

 kj521
Joined: 9/20/2015
Msg: 3
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Posted: 6/27/2016 11:20:52 AM
And those that so desperately need a safe place to vent need this thread.

Releasing all that pent up anger is cleansing to the soul. :)



And for goodness sakes! Forget fraud....even worse.....Donald could be the AntiChrist for all we know!
So far the Evangelucals are mostly sure he isn't but I'll keep you posted. ;) ;)
 memtoo
Joined: 6/2/2016
Msg: 4
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Posted: 6/27/2016 11:35:13 AM
Those who open their eyes know he is a fraud. If the antichrist is defined to be someone who ushers in the destruction of civilization, and trump had his stubby short fingers on the nuclear button, I suppose he could qualify there too. Although I personally believe he would simply be a do nothing president who Congress will keep in check.
 kj521
Joined: 9/20/2015
Msg: 5
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Posted: 6/27/2016 11:41:53 AM
Personally...I think both Trump and Hillary are criminals.

Both should be arrested by the fashion police....him for his hair and her for her pantsuits. Not kidding. :/


Now with that said....did anyone else notice what a cutey Paul Ryan is with a few days growth of facial hair? Or is it just me? :D
 memtoo
Joined: 6/2/2016
Msg: 6
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Posted: 6/27/2016 11:57:51 AM
^^^ its just you . . . but then I'm not attracted to guys with power. He has all the right ingredients for the women though.
 duracell_bunny_one
Joined: 1/21/2015
Msg: 7
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Posted: 6/27/2016 12:06:49 PM
Grief - his finger won't be anywhere near 'the' button
have you no idea how this stuff works?????

 memtoo
Joined: 6/2/2016
Msg: 8
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Posted: 6/27/2016 12:10:12 PM
^^^^ why don't you explain it? Tell me how the US President has no authority to use the nuclear codes to launch a nuclear attack.
 HawkingJr
Joined: 4/16/2007
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Posted: 6/27/2016 1:25:51 PM
“Although I personally believe he would simply be a do nothing president who Congress will keep in check.”

Oh, he’ll do something. At the very minimum embarrass the United States many many times with just his rhetoric alone, as he has done with the Republican Party for months now, not to mention start numerous international incidents by insulting both our enemies AND allies. I also have no doubt after this weekend that he’ll be too busy opening golf courses and casinos for The Trump Organization to actually do much of the governing he’s supposed to be doing, though that could be as much of a positive as negative, but you do have to wonder just how many deals he’ll make as president for the sole purpose of financially benefitting himself (not that that would make him any different than W. Bush; Obama not being a businessman has had the unexpected side benefit of him largely making decisions without concern of how it would financially benefit him or his friends, but I’m not about to sit here and tell you Clinton is more similar to Obama than Bush or Trump in that respect).
 kj521
Joined: 9/20/2015
Msg: 10
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Posted: 6/27/2016 1:52:10 PM
I'm curious......has anyone heard where The Donald intends to hang the....Trump Whitehouse....sign? :D



 memtoo
Joined: 6/2/2016
Msg: 11
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Posted: 6/27/2016 2:03:58 PM
^^^^^ Obama covered that in the 2015 Obama Correspondence Dinner:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4

See about 3:30

 flman2015
Joined: 10/3/2015
Msg: 12
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Posted: 6/27/2016 2:04:36 PM




At the very minimum embarrass the United States many many times with just his rhetoric alone, as he has done with the Republican Party for months now, not to mention start numerous international incidents by insulting both our enemies AND allies.


... and a few other things that should concern those who believe they would be better off with a Cheeto Jesus presidency.... the following non-partisan study

http://crfb.org/papers/adding-donald-trumps-campaign-proposals-so-far

shows that under Cheeto Jesus the public debt would grow from the current 75% of GDP to an estimated 129% of GDP by 2026. Other studies held by other non partisan organizations have reached pretty much the same or very similar conclusions.

Cheeto Jesus will make public debt great again!

But, at this point, I do have to give Cheeto Jesus credit for one thing... he proclaimed himself the "King of Debt"... for once he wasn't deluded and was actually telling the truth.




has anyone heard where The Donald intends to hang the....Trump Whitehouse....sign


In Scotland :-)
 Maleman999
Joined: 2/14/2010
Msg: 13
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Posted: 6/27/2016 2:05:34 PM
I can hardly wait for him to say he's going to make America great again while he's at his new golf course in Scotland. employing Scottish people. and helping the local Scottish economy. But I guess making America great again doesn't start until he moves into the White House. Up until then, America is on its own. It's too bad they didn't build a wall to keep him out.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 14
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Posted: 6/27/2016 4:28:36 PM

his finger won't be anywhere near 'the' button


How right you are! It looks like he'll get a record pasting in the general election and never get near "the button!"
 dwmitch
Joined: 12/31/2009
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Posted: 6/27/2016 5:08:24 PM
I always get brushed off as a "conspiracy theorist" when I mention this, but I think this is actually an evolved version of the McCaskill Gambit. Whether Trump is a co-conspirator or the unwitting buffoon is yet to be seen.

In 2012 the McCaskill campaign spent $2,000,000 in advertising declaring Akin "too conservative for Missouri" during the primary. I don't know if it was an attempt at reverse psychology, counting on people saying "if McCaskill doesn't want him in the general then he's the one who can beat her," or if she was honestly trying to appeal to moderate Republicans to keep him from getting to the general election, but it was clear that she was trying to choose her opponent in the general election.

Despite Akin's apparent lead before his little slip-up it's almost guaranteed that she would have had an "October surprise." You don't spend $2,000,000 advertising in the opposing party's primary without being prepared to deal with all possible outcomes. If Akin was her chosen opponent it was because she had something on him that would guarantee his defeat if he wouldn't have pretty much gift-wrapped the election and served it up to her on a silver platter. She probably had things on all of the primary candidates just in case the "wrong guy" got the nomination.

And now we've seen it on a national scale. No matter who the front runner was at any given point all of the attention was on Trump. Ben Carson was actually the front runner for a period of time late last year but not many people know it due to the coverage.

During the primaries the media portrayed Trump as an unstoppable juggernaut while constantly attacking him. Even though Trump is far from conservative, they were basically doing the "too conservative for Missouri" routine. They were counting on the right's disdain for the mainstream media to get him the nomination. They were basically saying "we hate this guy. Give him the nomination." They essentially picked Clinton's opponent for her much in the same way you would pick a difficulty setting for a child in a video game.

In the best case scenario the primary/caucus voters gave in to the media's obvious manipulation. Hell, they're probably laughing off camera about how easy it was to herd the "rubes in flyover country" toward the one contender Clinton actually has a shot at beating.

In the worst case scenario Trump is in on it. Now I may be the suspicious type, but I do not trust a man who changes political parties more often than a square dancer changes partners when it comes to the presidency. He may be registered as a Republican, he may be running on the Republican ticket, but if there aren't any antics at the convention that keep him from getting the nomination it wouldn't surprise me at all if he spent the next four months trying to alienate his supporters to lock in Clinton's election.
 chinook1111
Joined: 4/1/2016
Msg: 16
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Posted: 6/27/2016 7:38:25 PM
All wrong buddy

It is simple.Hillary will do the bidding of powerful people.Who owns the papers that attack Trump the most vicously?

You guessed it.
 Doremi_Fasolatido
Joined: 2/14/2009
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Posted: 6/27/2016 8:07:16 PM
#15.... Yes, all attention is on Trump. Small wonder as during the Rep. nominations he said one stupid thing after another. Of course, this just so happened to keep his fat doughey face in the limelight and if he wasn't saying something stupid, racist or unfactual he was making fun of handicapped folks or just insulting his opponents simply for free air time.......

And, by golly it looks like it worked so far because he's hornswoggled his way into the hearts [and, the nomination of] all of the Republican party. They love him, they chose him, and if you claim him you'll go straight to hell right along with him brandishing the same six six six brand on all of your foreheads.... Or, maybe not... But it might just feel that way if this nut gets coronated.

I'm just glad I had no hand in supporting this guy because he just ain't right.
 IgorFrankensteen
Joined: 6/29/2009
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Posted: 6/27/2016 9:09:39 PM
I think that one thing that Trump has consistently shown, is that more than anything else, he is well versed in how to manipulate the complex, arcane and entirely rigged rules and regulations of Americanized capitalism, in order to extract profit from failed endeavors. So I doubt that anyone will be able to make any accusations of outright fraud stick. American capitalists of all sorts, have been successfully ripping off customers and clients alike, using fine print, and sneaky interpretations of the words in contracts, for over two hundred years in this country, and so far, only the ones stupid enough to say explicitly that they were defrauding people, have aver been convicted of crimes.

The Supreme Court just let another one go this week.

As for why Trump won the primaries, that has almost nothing to do with clever Democrats, or even with clever Trump. I suggest that it is entirely the logical and direct result of the carefully crafted and consistently executed grand strategy of the Republican Party, in their effort to win elections and their majority status in Congress that they have.

That strategy, since Watergate both angered and inspired them, has been to refuse to admit to even HAVING any plans to help America, and instead to win elections entirely by gathering as many angry people together as they can, and tell them that what they are angry about is because of Democrats. Past that, they have actively discouraged all thought, instead calling for repeated loyalty oaths from their proposed candidates, and attempted to overturn the voters choices as often as possible, through pushing scandals to the forefront, again, rather than proposing any actual solutions.

Trump is THE candidate of the mindlessly angry. He is THE candidate of the people who the Republican strategists encouraged to come to the fore, by trying to beat Obama with the myth of Kenyan birth, and to beat Clinton with the faked Whitewater scandal, and tried to impeach and remove him from office for screwing around on his wife. Trump came along and affirmed that EVERY paranoid rant that the GOP had been making up for decades was absolutely true, and declared further, that he, unlike all the other Republican candidates, would actually follow through with those fantasies.

In short the Republican Party trained their voters to vote in favor of anger, of paranoia, and of careless, self-righteous bravado. And that is what Trump is the king of.

Remember who the Republican primary voters came closest to nominating INSTEAD of trump? Canadian born Ted Cruz. The same Ted Cruz, who led the purposeful effort to destroy America's international credit rating, simply to thumb their nose one more time at Obama. And HIS supporters like HIM, for the same reasons: he talked angry, made short-sighted decisions, and sneered at whoever was on the GOP Enemies List.
 kj521
Joined: 9/20/2015
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Posted: 6/27/2016 9:16:52 PM

"Trump is THE candidate of the mindlessly angry."



Wow! I can honestly say.....I expected more from you, Igor. My bad. :/
 IgorFrankensteen
Joined: 6/29/2009
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Posted: 6/28/2016 3:59:50 AM
kj:

"Trump is THE candidate of the mindlessly angry."



Wow! I can honestly say.....I expected more from you, Igor. My bad. :/


Okay, I'm open to fact based debate. Which of Trumps proposals is based on careful reasoning of all factors, as opposed to making extreme statements? The Wall? Eliminating ALL interaction with foreign Muslims? Spying on ALL Muslim places of worship?

When he was first beginning his push for the nomination, I supported what he was saying, because he was the first Republican in decades, to say out loud, that in order to make the changes that the Party wanted, that MORE government, and more expensive government was required. But from there he proceeded to insult one American ally after another, and to alienate everyone except the North Koreans, who have interestingly enough, advocated in his favor.

Now. I don't happen to believe Trump is as serious as he, or his moist eagerly propagandistic opponents would have us believe. He is famous in all his endeavors, for making dramatic and over the top claims and statements, and then follow with relatively mundane actual actions. His classic negotiating style has always been to make wild demands at the start, without really intending to hold to them, in order to push his opponents into altering their offers.

His followers, however, genuinely think he means to build a wall, and declare every one of the Muslims in the world persona non grata the day after he takes office. THAT requires an angry refusal to think.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 21
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Posted: 6/28/2016 4:05:28 AM
""""It is simple.Hillary will do the bidding of powerful people.Who owns the papers that attack Trump the most vicously?"""""

That.

She is in the pocket of those who run the USA and the financial markets world-wide. It is QUITE simple.

Even if she were to lose,they will do the same thing that the anti-Brexit people are doing-
-----contend that the vote was "ignorant" (or angry or paranoid, you know, Psych 101)
---- or that they don't have to follow it
-----or make up a "petition" for re-vote
-----or have a"recount" until it goes their way.
-----or the Supreme Court will declare her president ( see how both parties are the same?)

And we will just murmur among ourselves and take it.

(Trump supporters are not showing up at rallies of other candidates to fight them, berate them or prevent them from hearing their candidates. Again, Psych 101 and reverse psychology to pretend that THEY are the "violent and angry" ones.

Trump's appeal is that he is saying OUT LOUD what others are doing anyway, including Obama, but are pretending not to do or that they haven't done because it is PC.
The Wall is already half built ( or fence, if you mince words rather than consider purpose), and they are already spying on Muslims places of worship. And no one said to end ALL of anything with ALL Muslims.)
 kj521
Joined: 9/20/2015
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Posted: 6/28/2016 4:39:08 AM
"Okay, I'm open to fact based debate."


Are you? Are you sure? Your words suggest otherwise.....that was kinda my point.

Why so angey? :)
 flman2015
Joined: 10/3/2015
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Posted: 6/28/2016 5:17:22 AM



IgorFrankensteen



Okay, I'm open to fact based debate


A very reasonable proposal.... except for expecting facts



Are you? Are you sure? Your words suggest otherwise.....that was kinda my point.

Why so angey? :)


which has been turned down with a beautiful smile but... all is not lost... you learned you're angry... LOL
 HawkingJr
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Posted: 6/28/2016 7:01:57 AM
When Mark “hanging out with his mistress in South America” Sanford questions the suitability of Trump to be president, that’s when you know the world has turned upside down:

“Along with Kirk and Vance, several House Republicans have taken the extraordinary step of refusing to back the presumptive nominee of their party. Some are retiring at the end of this term, but most are not. All are straying from the tradition of supporting the top of their party’s ticket to protest Trump. Among them, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the Cuban-born congresswoman and most senior member of the Florida delegation, said she won’t vote for Trump or Clinton.
Fellow Florida Republican Rep. Carlos Curbelo won’t back Trump, either, saying it is ‘not a political decision—that is a moral decision.’

Illinois Rep. Bob Dold told a local radio station Trump’s comments about Hispanics, women, and POWs made it impossible for him to vote Trump, while Rep. Mark Sanford of South Carolina (remember him?) told The Wall Street Journal that Trump didn’t pass his test for planning a constitutionally limited government. Rep. Richard Hanna of New York was the first to tell the Republican caucus he would never go for Trump. He told Syracuse.com, ‘I want someone to be president that my children can look up to.’ In an open letter, Rep. Scott Rigell (R-VA), who is retiring, called a Trump presidency ‘nothing short of catastrophic.’ Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) is off the Trump train, and if Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) had to vote today, he said he wouldn’t vote for Trump, either.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/28/mutiny-ahead-for-trump-train-as-republicans-head-for-the-hills.html

Again, these are REPUBLICANS saying these things. Hardcore, elected officials of the Republican party. “I want someone to be president that my children can look up to.” “It’s not a political decision – that is a moral decision.” “Trump’s comments about Hispanics, women, and POWs made it impossible for him to vote Trump.” I don’t understand how some of the Trump supporters in this thread (particularly those I respect, or once respected) can’t see this in him – these guys aren’t condemning him to save their hides, they’re doing it because they think he’s (at least acting like) a horrible human being. Even if some are supporting him for reasons other than “being angry,” how can you not see that he’s saying racist, xenophobic and repugnant things and pandering to the lowest common denominator? If you don’t think you’re angry, if you don’t think you’re racist, if you don’t think you’re xenophobic, I think you need to take a long look at yourself and ask, what kind of man am I so enthusiastic about and truly why?
 chinook1111
Joined: 4/1/2016
Msg: 25
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Posted: 6/28/2016 7:38:47 AM
@Hawking
The MSM forms your opinions. Trump made comments about illegals and a Chicago born judge who awarded a scholarship to an illegal immigrant over other qualified candidates.If a woman wants to trash Trump she can expect it coming back.Fair enough?

Xenophobia is common to all races dude.Why should Americans wish to start speaking Spanish and put up with Muslims that actually hate the west?I live in Canada and have played along with plenty of them.

Psst.They don't like you.
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