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Joined: 6/17/2015
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Oh that 2 post rule drives you nuts, no wonder the forums are dead.
I don't believe anyone, male or female should settle for less than they want, some will because they consider it preferable to be alone, I'd rather be alone. I don't see that attitude as misogynistic but was accused of something similar myself for not appreciating all the obese blokes who message me.
Online dating has changed hugely in ten years so comparisons are pointless.
It is what it is, deal with it or look elsewhere. You might be better off looking at "Meet up" groups in your area.
Joined: 12/4/2013
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Posted: 9/6/2016 5:48:25 AM
Well I run one of those meet up groups and it is successful in getting people together. Ours is just a social group but that means people can get together and to know each other over a period of time. I can think of half a dozen people who have set out on relationships through the group in the last six months. Mind, I also see lots of people turn up, look around, don't see anyone they fancy and they're off. That's the real life equivalent of a "Hi" message on here. Pointless.
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Posted: 9/6/2016 6:02:05 AM
If the group you joined is full of flakey people, there are plenty of other groups out there, join another.
I think it's a better way of meeting people as hopefully you'd have a common interest.
Or as Chap says maybe you're not putting yourself out there.
I dunno find a group with an activity you enjoy and just do it lol.
Joined: 8/8/2014
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Posted: 9/6/2016 1:26:28 PM
"For god's sake".....I do know what you're all saying about me in your cyber huddles.".not bloody bonds!!! ...billy snake-hips bonds, a crass, socially inept.. buffoon from the hills. Granted, when it comes to geo-political prognostications Bonds is the poster to go to for when one is trying to make sense of this wretched world of pain and pleasure. He simply has within him that rare grammatical ability to see clear through the prism of socialism. The most evil conspiracy ,against the working class, that the elite and their Useful idiots have wrought. He out of a wanton and feckless noblesse oblige kindly furnishes the humble no responses layman with what he needs to know to meet the morning that is coming to our lovely earthy world, hopefully not this year though".

"But allowing him to opine on matters of , dating, epic bottom thrusting and the nuts and bolts and blood it takes to kindle, fan and ignite sweet, enduring and nurturing relationships. Absolutely not. Keep ..well away from this man , for he is a moron, par excellence...... Outstanding."

I do have feelings you know.

Anyway op, basically we have too much debt ( north of $230 trillion.. in dollar terms.......that McKinsey figure is now two years old..).and not enough profit or income or spare change we have to add or ..create...more debt to get more profit or growth which after eight years, we are empirically not getting. Alas, profits are not terribly synonymous with the concept of global insolvency. Economic scarcity ensues and desperate people look to weird moustachioed men for bold simple solutions to their hunger.
 Forrest Grump
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Posted: 9/7/2016 1:05:57 PM
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Oh that 2 post rule drives you nuts, no wonder the forums are dead.

If you think that the forums are dead because of the 2 post rule……. I despair.

Do you not think that it might have something more to do with the fact that this is YET another
thread on the subject of getting no replies, a subject that has been DONE TO DEATH.

How long are we going to have to put up with redundant threads?
Joined: 8/8/2014
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Posted: 9/7/2016 1:38:54 PM
^^^^^It's bunny territory but..... I will venture that if you were to fill up your third post in ten with many denunciations of socialism in all its unearned greed You will find you can post until your heart is contented. Did anyone know that the federal reserve is now America's biggest landlord. It's communism , isn't it? I mean that's the trend, these central banks are buying or nationalising everything. We just haven't got the lifestyles. You know the lifestyle where people joined queues for hours in the hope that they could buy whatever was at the end of them in exchange for the paper the party had given them . Socialism equals empty shelves. Just look at Venezuela a one crop economy that socialised the "crop" for the people in 2003 and now has its people eating zoo animals.

Ps I do like the no reply threads especially when they go on and do a part two.
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Posted: 9/8/2016 1:32:46 AM
The forums are dead because no one knows they are here, in the UK at least.

Dave for President!
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Posted: 9/8/2016 2:33:04 AM
Well if the forums are dead because the threads are all of a similar vein, they'd be non existent without those threads.
No one knows the forum is here isn't true either, some of us manage to find them and wonder why we bothered looking.
Joined: 1/21/2015
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Posted: 9/8/2016 3:42:13 AM
Thanks Billy (I think)
Internet dating has changed dramatically in the ten years or so that I've been here.
Fish was fairly unique & consequently attracted a lot of interest
& with that 'Forumites'.
Today, Match virtually own the dating world by virtue of buying everything
they could, in an attempt to bulk 'click' harvest from a diminishing pool.
Where we all go from here I don't know - if I did I'd probably sell it
to Match..........

and to keep on Topic - no one replies because no one cares........ there..........

And I didn't mention Brexit, Fiat Money or World Debt..........

 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
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Posted: 9/8/2016 4:54:43 AM

He simply has within him that rare grammatical ability to see clear through the prism of socialism. The most evil conspiracy ,against the working class, that the elite and their Useful idiots have wrought.

There must exist some sort of "parallel Universe", where the "elite" have conspired to inflict socialism on the masses, because it certainly has never happened in the Universe which I inhabit.

In fact, I think you're conflating the many "conspiracy theories" which exist, into one.

You seem to think that the banks, and the city, and the insurance companies, and the wealthy landowners, and all the other 'financial institutions', have somehow 'conspired', to inflict 'socialism' on the masses.
-As if that would somehow, be greatly beneficial to those at the 'top' of society.
The reality is exactly the opposite.

It's truly delusional.
And yet you have the temerity to describe all 'socialists', as "buffoons".
I think I'll 'pass' on any financial advice given by you.

I don't know which version of 'socialism' you've been reading about, or where.
The kind I support simply feels that;
A. Everybody has a "right" to exist on this Earth, without having to pay an "existence tax", decided before their existence. Nobody "owns" the Earth, any more than it's possible to "own" the air which circulates above it.
B. Everybody has the "right" to the full value/benefits of their own work.
Nobody has the "right" to contribute absolutely nothing, but to take far more than anyone else, simply because of who their parents were.
C. We achieve far more, when we all work together, towards common goals, which will benefit ALL of us.

It's just basic common sense.

But without ideals, we are directionless.
We may never actually arrive at our ideals, but at least it gives us a direction, to move towards.

Say you're taller, and hold some fish.
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Posted: 9/8/2016 3:39:40 PM
No, thank you bunny. I noticed the grafters and the specialists on this esteemed forum , I only hope I explained clearly the 3456789 in ten rule .

It' s 2013 again!! and jo has come out fighting for his beliefs. Buffoon eh.....that got the old blood pumping :)
Truly delusional , it's a compliment to me you know.

Let us call socialism, statism. Government intervening for the common good. You obviously believe in the goodness of the state and fair enough you could point to a lot of good it does and the vast majority of humanity would support you because it does sound so nice for many people. It's good politics too as people will tend to vote in that general direction. Like you , I want a better country and world for the all and yet I seem to to be diametrically opposed to everything you hold dear.

Why is that ? Fundamentally you want everyone to come together for the common good and leave no one behind, we are all special human beings and selfishness is wrong. While I think, this is the well where all the needless evil in the world comes from. When we put the collective good over the individual good we all lose eventually. It is this that is the fundamental issue between us.

I've been watching Question time tonight , I like Jeremy Corbyn, I suspect you like him too. I can't stand Owen Smith, he's a**** Do you feel that way? I don't think these men are real or serious though. So I do look elsewhere for a sense of reality and seriousness because that is important in a world that is both pleasure and pain. I think most people, judging from the on topic forum invest too much of their time in these buffoons.

We don't have money Jo. This has been the case since 1971. We don't have capitalism . We don't have price discovery. What we have is a command economy . Yeah, these particular pigs in the farmer's house are talking about the common good too. We don't have money Jo.....just a seemingly limitless debt based credit creation system . Worldwide too. We don't have money Jo.. This fiat currency is designed ....designed Jo, man financiers,not the market,to lose value it doesn't store a human beings' labour Jo . So by the Process of the inflation tax, mass inequality follows. This never gets debated, do you believe that inequality is a consequence of inflation? Most people wouldn't. I'm pretty thick but I do know that inflation wouldn't exist in a sound money system. We simply don't have money Jo, I hope you investigate that because it's of societal import.

Consequences ... Famine ..half the population of the world wiped out? Remember that key philosophical difference. People like you Jo and you are in the majority.... love ordering people about for the common good and making them feel bad for being themselves . Leave them alone . that b in your list regarding them keeping the value of their work is a good one and if we had money we could address it tomorrow.

House prices only go up Jo in a fiat currency system , stock markets too. The global bond markets are in a very big bubble, a thirty five year bull market. Watch the ten year Japanese Treasury that's probably, very sadly, the blue touch paper. Gold only goes up too , it's a fact Jo it's because we don't have money jo. Granted Gold as measured in fiat dollars is in a five year bear market dropping from $1900 an oz down to $ 1050 all though it is now at $1300 dollars. But stand back from the clowns Jo and see for your self . Gold only goes up against fiat currencies it's wink wink a certainty. So why has gold come down in recent years and the dollar up. Well insanity can persist for a long long period. Simply put A recovery meme was put in place , Qe was to be ended and unwound and interest rates would be normalised. Gold fell in anticipation of these Sunlit uplands of an economic nirvana. But Interest rates have not risen they are going negative , negative interest rates are an oxymoron, and Global Qe is now $200 billion a month. And so here we all are sitting by a crumbling cliff, It will all be so obvious with the benefit of hindsight. We will never learn Jo you have the best songs ... ;)

On topic a seven foot two tub of fish paste should allow you to prevail on all fronts op
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Posted: 9/8/2016 5:28:43 PM

Seems I have something completely weird about me that I'm just totally missing

Allow me to give my 2 cents. Don't put yourself down like that OP. I didn't see your original profile but your current one reads okay to me. Still needs some work but at least it's positive.

How do you word your messages? Do you make reference to the lady's profile? Do you ask her a question? You indicated you're not too happy with your photos. Well put some new ones up is my advice.

Just another quick thing......listing yourself as separated is notoriously a turn off. Separated for how long? A week? A month? Five years? Is one reluctantly testing the waters out there to see if something "better" comes along? In my opinion the better term to use is single.

Best of luck to you.
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Posted: 9/9/2016 8:33:10 AM

People always do things they they shouldn't dating when you shouldn't be is no different to having a few too many down at the pub one night or driving over the speed limits.

come again? :)

OP, just stop it! no one really knows why you aren't having any luck. Could be you are a crashing bore when messaging back n forth, I know I am.
Your pics are averagely ok, so I'm surprised you don't get some feedback.
Everyone it seems is fed up with online 'dating/relationship-seeking'
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Posted: 9/9/2016 2:30:05 PM
I would rather no reply than some random late night chat with a guy, decide I like him and then he never messages again. Here is the message I sent to such a chap recently which I think sums it up:

Ah so... I was a one night POF stand. Chat for a while and then bother off. So many around and to be honest its quite common and quite sad. I do wish people met up like they used to and met and had the inclination and incite to get along and build a meaningful relationship but instead, they move from person to person thinking they can do better and in the end; all are unhappy and lonely. I hate internet dating. It has demolished relationships and left us with a world without love and a lot of lonely old aged people x Good luck friend
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Posted: 9/10/2016 5:05:41 AM
I have to say that I strongly empathise with the OP - I've been here maybe 6 weeks, and found it really different to 10 yrs ago as well, so I realised I needed to do some more research - I've read lots of all the "dos and don'ts" articles and videos and restructured what I was doing - result? No different. I religiously read the person's profile, pick out a couple of examples from it to start a conversation and ask an open question inviting a reply, I'm polite, I (try to) use humour, I start with hellos, et cetera... still nothing

So I empathise with the OP because after receiving no feedback from messages and therefore being completely unsure what to do in order to effect a change in these circumstances, you become somewhat disheartened the next time you see someone who you genuinely think might really be a good match, someone who you feel you could have a positive impact with.

So what is the answer? How do we cross that seemingly impossible chasm, if women are receiving hundreds of messages, and some or many are from ogres or one-line messages. How do those who are genuine stand out from the rest?
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Posted: 9/10/2016 6:36:01 AM
Ten years ago we were both young(er), the 'pool' was bigger
& there were women looking......
I was chatting (in real life) to a lady yesterday who said that her daughter
was active on Ti**der & was out with a different bloke
almost every night...
I won't comment on the health risks, but I will say that
said daughter is all of 23.....speaks for itself, really.

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Posted: 9/10/2016 8:49:09 AM
I'm at a loss as to why you don't get any feedback at all. I personally respond to various types of messages, some serious, some cheeky, some nice, some naughty, some with pics, some without etc. So I can't imagine theres a 'one size fits all' for any woman on here.
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Posted: 9/10/2016 10:25:41 AM
your profile is much improved :-)

now stop moaning and lighten up... it's supposed to be fun.

pof is not a place for people who are seiously looking for a partner - it's a sweetie shop of commitment phobes looking for a bit of interaction and confirmation of their attractiveness. nothing wrong with that imo... im one of them 😁

op you have been on dating sites for years by the sounds of it... it hasn't worked for you so far, and given that you already know its a lot harder nowadays, why do you still think it will work for you now?
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