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Who uses using blackmail, assassinations, and terror to deter any opposition to its global expansion plans. Please excuse the length but this abridged picture attempts to explain a new revised global game in play, which we are all paying and will continue to pay for. You can get more detail from the web, which includes gives the framework of the game now in progress and will last a decade or few.

Africa began participation in China’s “Belt and Braces Initiative” with South Africa in 2015 and Egypt in 2016. Also included were Angola, Kenya and Tanzania with the Republic of Congo, Ethiopia, Nigeria, Morocco, and Mozambique to follow. China has established 75 overseas economic and trade cooperation zones in 35 countries and regions. These also helped create up to 950,000 jobs by the end of last year.

Construction works involve high-speed highways. One such highway goes across Algeria from east to west. In 2016, Chinese and Algerian companies agreed on the construction of the largest port in the country to become the northern sea hub of Africa. Chinese specialists are constructing another highway that will stretch across Algeria from north to south. At the end of 2016, was the successful completion of a fifteen hundred mile long tunnel. A merged Eurasian-African economic space will result in creating the largest free trade zone in human history. China constitutes the largest trading partner of the African continent. This foreign economic engagement comes with few demands.

In contrast, the United States has urged African governments to acknowledge democracy and human rights — or lose out on U.S. business opportunities. U.S. government regards the China’s “Belt and Braces initiative” as incompatible with its own interests. The United States concentrates on wars, China wants economic prosperity. Just look at what is happeing on the ground over the last decade, fact speaks louder than Propaganda.

The Pentagon is calling for an increase in the US military footprint in Africa, where there are over 6,000 troops currently stationed. in 53 of the 54 African countries. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said the war on terrorism is “morphing.” Some question the US’ only answer to terrorism is violence against violence, which is like trying to eradicate diseases by killing patients

A report released under the Freedom of Information Act shows the US has been simulating an invasion of West Africa in response to an imaginary terror attack on American soil. This project was designed to train those who will manage future American wars. After Libya was smashed up, the result was a generation of new terrorism and the training of new terrorists in that part of the world which costs 80 times more human lives today than it did in the year 2000. The main creator, today of terrorism, is ‘the war on terror’ – it is not terrorists, but the ‘war on terror’.
The only answer the American military and political people have is unending violence against violence. When the US goes somewhere - it gets resistance. Starting the Iraq War, destroying Libya, conducting secret operations for five-six years in Syria.

Muammar Gaddafi was murdered, joining a long list of African revolutionaries martyred by the West for daring to dream of continental independence. His hometown of Sirte had been occupied by Western-backed militias, following a month-long battle during which NATO and its ‘rebel’ allies pounded the city’s hospitals and homes with artillery, cut off its water and electricity, and publicly proclaimed their desire to ‘starve the city into submission’. The media across the world celebrated this as a triumphant snuff movie. This WAS the opening salvo in a new war - a war for the militarily recolonisation of Africa.

2009 was a pivotal for US-African relations. First, because China overtook the US as the continent’s largest trading partner; and second because Gaddafi was elected president of the African Union. The decline of US influence on the continent could not be clearer as China was quietly smashing the West’s monopoly over export markets and investment finance. Africa no longer had to go cap-in-hand to the IMF for loans, but could turn to China - or Libya - for investment. If African countries would no longer come begging for Western loans, export markets, and investment finance, the next option was for them to be put in a position where they would come begging for Western military aid. When AFRICOM - the US army’s new ‘African command’ - was not a single African country would agree to host its HQ; instead, it was forced to open shop in Stuttgart, Germany. Gaddafi had led African opposition to AFRICOM, and US pleas to African leaders to embrace AFRICOM in the ‘fight against terrorism’ fell on deaf ears.

Gaddafi, had explained to Hillary Clinton in 2009, North Africa already had an effective security system in place, through the African Union’s ‘standby forces,' on the one hand, and CEN-SAD was a regional security organization of Sahel and Saharan states, with a well-functioning security system, with Libya as the lynchpin. The sophisticated Libyan-led counter-terror structure meant there was simply no need for a US military presence. The job of Western planners, then, was to create such a need.

NATO’s destruction of Libya simultaneously achieved three strategic goals for the West’s plans for military expansion in Africa. It removed the biggest obstacle and opponent of such expansion, Gaddafi himself. With Gaddafi gone, and with a pro-NATO puppet government in charge of Libya, there was no longer any chance that Libya would act as a powerful force against Western militarism. Quite the contrary - Libya’s new government was utterly dependent on such militarism and knew it.

Secondly, NATO’s aggression served to bring about a total collapse of the delicate but effective North African security system, which had been underpinned by Libya.

And finally, NATO’s annihilation of the Libyan state effectively turned the country over to the region’s death squads and terror groups. These groups were then able to loot Libya’s military arsenals and set up training camps at their leisure, using these to expand operations right across the region.

It is no coincidence that almost all of the recent terror attacks in North Africa - not to mention Manchester - have been either prepared in Libya or perpetrated by fighters trained in Libya. Boko Haram, Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, ISIS, Mali’s Ansar Dine, and literally dozens of others, have all greatly benefited from the destruction of Libya.

By ensuring the spread of terror groups across the region, the Western powers had magically created a demand for their military assistance which hitherto did not exist. They had literally created a protection racket for Africa.

Research by Nick Turse showed how the increase in AFRICOM operations across the continent has correlated precisely with the rise in terror threats. Its growth, he said, has been accompanied by “increasing numbers of lethal terror attacks across the continent including those in Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Côte d’Ivoire, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Ethiopia, Kenya, Mali, Niger, Nigeria, Somalia, South Sudan, and Tunisia. Data from the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism at the University of Maryland shows that attacks have spiked coinciding with AFRICOM’s establishment. In 2007, just before it became an independent command, there were fewer than 400 such incidents annually in sub-Saharan Africa. Last year, the number reached nearly 2,000. This demonstrates AFRICOM’s massive failure.

This is the Africa policy Trump inherited. A policy that is in reality, just a protection racket. Viewed from the perspective of the protection racket, it is a resounding success, with US military power smoothly reproducing the conditions for its own expansion. To put it bluntly the US has made a strategic decision to drop the carrot in favor of the stick. Given the overwhelming superiority of Chinese development assistance, this is unsurprising. The US has decided to stop trying to compete in this area, and instead to ruthlessly and unambiguously pursue the military approach which the Bush and Obama administrations had already mapped out.

To this end, Trump has stepped up drone attacks, ramping up of civilian casualties, and consequently of the resentment and hatred which fuels militant recruitment. It is unlikely to be a coincidence, for example, that the al Shabaab truck bombing that killed over 300 people in Mogadishu. A detailed study by the United Nations recently concluded that in “a majority of cases, state action appears to be the primary factor finally pushing individuals into violent extremism in Africa.” And so the cycle continues: drone attacks breed recruitment, which produces further terror attacks, which leaves the states involved more dependent on US military support. Thus does the West create the demand for its own ‘products.'
Endless war is the whole point. For not only does it force African countries, finally freeing themselves from dependence on the IMF, into dependence on AFRICOM; it also undermines China’s blossoming relationship with Africa.

Chinese trade and investment in Africa continues to grow apace. Chinese-African trade, meanwhile, topped $200 billion in 2015.

China’s ‘One Belt One Road’ policy - to which President Xi Jinping has pledged $124 billion to create global trade routes designed to facilitate $2 trillion worth of annual trade - will also help to improve African links with China. Steve Bannon, said “Let’s go screw up One Belt One Road.” The West’s deeply destabilizing Africa policy - of simultaneously creating the conditions for armed groups to thrive while offering protection against them - goes some way toward realizing this ambitious goal. Removing Gaddafi was just the first step.

So welcome to the blindingly obvious US policy you just might not have realised was happening…the point being "Screw China", and smash up the world in the process, while in true Capone style, blackmailing Nation States into paying for protection….Brilliant!

Its so funny, so hilarious, if not somewhat infantile on one hand, but DEADLY SERIOUS on the other. So when any Politician or President states they want Peace, its is really a piece of the action, and the personal profits they personally gain, and anyway these people have no real worth, so their extermination should be celebrated.
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Is this a just fairy story about a rogue state, out of control
Posted: 11/4/2017 12:46:21 PM

Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq (by Stephen Kinzer)

"A fast-paced narrative history of the coups, revolutions, and invasions by which the United States has toppled fourteen foreign governments -- not always to its own benefit"

"Regime change" did not begin with the administration of George W. Bush, but has been an integral part of U.S. foreign policy for more than one hundred years. Starting with the overthrow of the Hawaiian monarchy in 1893 and continuing through the Spanish-American War and the Cold War and into our own time, the United States has not hesitated to overthrow governments that stood in the way of its political and economic goals. The invasion of Iraq in 2003 is the latest, though perhaps not the last, example of the dangers inherent in these operations.

In Overthrow, Stephen Kinzer traces American intervention, in the form of regime change from the time that the Hawaiian Queen was toppled by Americans in 1893 through Iraq. These represent a part of American history that does not always fully comport with American political ideals. It tells the stories of the audacious politicians, spies, military commanders, and business executives who took it upon themselves to depose monarchs, presidents, and prime ministers. He also shows that the U.S. government has often pursued these operations without understanding the countries involved; as a result, many of them have had disastrous long-term consequences.

In a compelling and provocative history that takes readers to fourteen countries, including Cuba, Iran, South Vietnam, Chile, and Iraq, Kinzer surveys modern American history from a new and often surprising perspective.
Joined: 6/16/2007
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what rogue state, the only one to use nukes, you mean?
Posted: 11/4/2017 2:28:19 PM
See, Trumpanzees, this is EXACTLY the reason liberals know they are smarter than you!

Liberals have told you, FOR DECADES, that America, yes, that same America you wish so desperately to make great again...does crap like this. But when liberals take a knee to demonstrate about it, you don't want to hear one word of it, you claim we hate America. But when its time for you to bemoan the Deep State, which existed since WW2 and the beginning of the CIA with the end of the OSS and fighting covert wars against Communists like Operation act you honestly believe you discovered something new.

You deplorables are so far behind in knowing WTF is going on, you really should start listening to liberals so you can catch up and save the working class from another Great Depression. You might just learn why "they hate us", on top of it all.

As Yemen sends a ballistic missile over Saudi Arabia (wait to see how that unfolds), let's have some fun as the original Orangeman bemoans what's happened to his Grand Old Party...another retired Republican who finally found his balls:
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