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 Viper1j
Joined: 2/6/2015
Msg: 1
Samantha Bee is Wonder Woman.Page 1 of 12    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12)
https://www.cnn.com/videos/cnnmoney/2018/05/31/samantha-bee-ivanka-trump-c-word-cnnmoney-orig.cnn/video/playlists/late-night-host-samantha-bee/

People will whine about what she said, and she has apologized..

But has anyone examined whether or not what she said was true? I think not.

Ivanka IS a "feckless cvnt" that uses her pussi to control her daddy.
 Whisky_River
Joined: 10/14/2017
Msg: 2
Samantha Bee is Wonder Woman.
Posted: 6/1/2018 9:21:41 AM
Well...I feel this sort of talk is unnecessary to get your point across...she should be fired.
She was wrong to say it...whether some people think it or not.
Words matter....I never heard of her before this...truthfully.

We can not let bad morals/manners to become the norm...just because there is a vile man in the WH.
I don't care for her but I don't know her(Ivanka)...I feel bad for her if anything.
She was raised in a bubble....she didn't choose her dad.
jmo...
 Viper1j
Joined: 2/6/2015
Msg: 3
Samantha Bee is Wonder Woman.
Posted: 6/1/2018 9:34:03 AM
How many times has Donnie apologized? For ANYTHING?
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 4
Samantha Bee is Wonder Woman.
Posted: 6/1/2018 9:34:09 AM
I'm sure Samantha Bee and her network will further feel the ramifications of her choice of words. I'm equally sure Ivanka has heard her own father use it a number of times, just not directed at her. I suppose this is what happens when a large portion of the population say they are tired of such a PC society, vote in someone who is the total opposite of PC and a "tell it like it is" (isn't) guy whose major claim to fame is seeking fame, and then wonder why things become politically incorrect. The pendulum swings.
 Viper1j
Joined: 2/6/2015
Msg: 5
Samantha Bee is Wonder Woman.
Posted: 6/1/2018 9:54:21 AM
It appears some people can't handle the truth.. ;D
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 6
Samantha Bee is Wonder Woman.
Posted: 6/1/2018 10:06:34 AM
In Trump's world, the truth likely makes them physically ill.
 Viper1j
Joined: 2/6/2015
Msg: 7
Samantha Bee is Wonder Woman.
Posted: 6/1/2018 10:54:48 AM

Well...I feel this sort of talk is unnecessary to get your point across...she should be fired.
She was wrong to say it...whether some people think it or not.
Words matter...


Wouldn't you say that children matter more?

While she's posting cute little Eskimo kiss pictures of her with her son, over 1500 children have been "lost" by her daddy, and most likely are being sold to the highest bidder as I type this.
 HawkingJr
Joined: 4/16/2007
Msg: 8
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Samantha Bee is Wonder Woman.
Posted: 6/1/2018 12:16:43 PM
One big difference between Samantha Bee and Roseanne is that Bee’s bosses actually approved her saying what she said before it aired (hence TBS also apologizing whereas ABC did not have to), whether that was wise or not – her show is not live but recorded in advance and the censors let it go through (I mean, because it violates FCC standards, they bleeped it out on cable but uploaded it uncensored to YouTube). So they can’t fire her unless they fire themselves. Roseanne was acting entirely on her own without network approval (and God knows they wouldn’t have approved it).

I’ve been watching Bee since her early “Daily Show” period and she’s been saying stuff like that for years across both networks she’s worked for... not unlike the case with Roseanne. In fact, I can pretty much guarantee you that had Bee said that about anyone other than Trump’s daughter (or someone else he feels defensive about), nobody would be paying attention to this, and in fact, nobody besides her fans did pay attention to it when she previously used such words to describe other people. The timing was REALLY bad, too – one day after Roseanne was fired and her show cancelled, so Fox News and the like were just looking for a “whataboutism” to prove liberal hypocrisy since they were actually unable to defend Roseanne (even Hannity and “The Five” nuts condemned her), and Bee foolishly delivered it to them – now I’m not certain when her show is recorded, but if it is the day of like most such talk shows, then she made a serious error for her cause, because she should have known there was already blood in the water and chosen to swim somewhere else. If she recorded it Tuesday around the time of Roseanne’s firing or earlier, then maybe I’ll give her a pass. But Trump and the rest of her enemies won’t.

My personal point of view is that what Roseanne said was worse, because it was just outright racist with no other redeeming quality – like I said, when Fox News Trump worshippers can’t even justify it, then you know somebody went a mile over the line. Had Samantha substituted almost any other word for the one she used (“feckless b*tch” even), then she would have been making nothing more than a slightly rude political statement about the president’s daughter. But for whatever reason, she decided she had to use what most would consider the most obscene word to call a woman. And undoubtedly Trump has used it many times to refer to a woman himself. But why give him and his worshippers unnecessary ammunition, Sam? I’m far more disappointed in her strategy here than I am in what she actually said. She took a situation where Trump was clearly in the wrong (unwilling to condemn Roseanne’s racism and acting as usual like a spoiled 10-year-old child asking for an underserved apology) and elevated him into a position of someone close to him being in a sympathetic position and created an almost defensible cry of “liberal hypocrisy.” Because the reality is, from a distant view, it is almost the same thing, and Roseanne got fired but Samantha will probably keep her show. And that’s just annoying to be put in a position to have to defend that situation with someone I like and generally agree with. (Full disclosure: I’m also a fan of “Roseanne” the show, more the original run than the revival, as it was about as realistic example of blue collar life as you're going to fine on sitcom TV, and annoyed with Roseanne that she got it cancelled, but I have never been a fan of Roseanne the person – her supporting cast and the writing makes that show more than she did, though she had her moments during the original run – her acting in the revival was really wooden.)
 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 9
Samantha Bee is Wonder Woman.
Posted: 6/1/2018 12:40:27 PM
^^^^^ actually, calling a guy a c^nt is worse than calling a woman a c^nt....but I can think of at least three women from this site I think of as c^nts...and at least one guy.

I think it is a good word for conveying just how vile a person is, and Trump has so lowered the standard for civil discourse that just about anything goes. I don't think she made a mistake for what she said, she just shouldn't have apologized for it.
.that makes it seem like she did something wrong.
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 10
Ivanka leaves all women wondering
Posted: 6/1/2018 1:26:14 PM
1) the timing is terrible. If you don't believe that, think about HOW MANY Republicans working for Chump have labeled the Prez an f'ing moron. What's the fallout been for each of these white men who have slandered the POTUS? but, the libs went after Roseanne and now the other side's gonna want a head, too. And they ain't gonna be wrong, if Roseanne had labeled Cheslea Clinton a FC, we'd complain too.

http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/trudy_rubin/roseanne-george-soros-chelsea-clinton-trump-twitter-20180601.html

2) using the C word is poor taste. I suspect any woman who thought Ivanka was a feminist just b/c she's cashing in on Daddy's position, is upset to find out she's all about the money, honey. which results in the anger expressed.
 Viper1j
Joined: 2/6/2015
Msg: 11
Ivanka leaves all women wondering
Posted: 6/1/2018 3:42:15 PM
The biggest difference between what Roseanne said, and what Samantha said, is that Roseanne was painting an entire group with a very large brush. Whereas Samantha directed her comments at one person alone.

And I'm still waiting to see if Donny ever apologizes for anything. If he did, the earth would probably stop rotating on its axis.
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 12
Ivanka leaves all women wondering
Posted: 6/1/2018 4:03:09 PM
The YUGE difference between Roseanne and Samantha Bee is that -
1) Samantha Bee said a swear word
2) Roseanne said a racist remark

Samantha Bee nailed it. I think her father is a feckless cvnt too.
 ja6425
Joined: 1/16/2018
Msg: 13
Liberals can say whatever they want and it's a-ok...NOT
Posted: 6/1/2018 8:11:18 PM
Ahhh, it is so funny(not) that the wacko liberals in here will approve of Bee. What barr said was absolutely terrible. And the liberals above me posting, they think Bee is just a "swell" liberal. She gets a pass. You kids are not believable in any thing you say and guess what, you will see the results this november and 2020. Like I said before in a post, whether you care for the president or not or didn't vote for him, many people are going to change their mind next time. Majority of people do not care for congress, no matter the party. Do you actually think that is going to bleed into november and people getting fed up with the staus quo??? I think it will. Keep on marching pelosi out as a leader(thanks nance) and keep marching corrupt hillary out there and what do you get? You get a party that is sinking fast!!!
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 14
Liberals can say whatever they want and it's a-ok...NOT
Posted: 6/1/2018 8:18:47 PM
^^^ Its odd how you didn't seem to mind Pelosi and Hillary when you voted for Dems twice under Obama. You probably thought both were wonderful.

Samantha Bee swore. Many Liberals AND Conservatives swear.
Roseanne made a racist comment. Typical as all racists are generally, mostly, damn near always conservative.

BTW, I hope the Dems pick someone different than Pelosi, not that I don't like her. They need another Obama. Hell, Biden could run for President with Obama on the ticket for Vice. That would be cool. Finally get some class back in the White House.
 ja6425
Joined: 1/16/2018
Msg: 15
Liberals can say whatever they want and it's a-ok...NOT
Posted: 6/1/2018 8:28:22 PM
Class? Oh please 47, you are delusional!!! And there ya go again, replying to my posts when you said you would never reply to them again. Let's wait and hear the BS reason....5....4....3....2...1.....GO!!!!
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 16
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Liberals can say whatever they want and it's a-ok...NOT
Posted: 6/2/2018 1:23:49 AM
Using that word is putting all women down. If Ivanka is a cvnt, then your mother is a cvnt and your sisters, your aunts and grandmothers.

This is the disintegration of society by democrats to think it's acceptable. Some democrats say they don't need religion in their lives, and then this is what you get, no class, no manners and no morals. This is not who I want in my circle of friends or who I want to live around.
 gingerosity
Joined: 12/10/2011
Msg: 17
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Liberals can say whatever they want and it's a-ok...NOT
Posted: 6/2/2018 2:10:25 AM
^ I don't know about the Ivanka thing, but in Australia we only call people we especially like and respect 'dicks' or 'cunts'. The pillars of our civil society are generally esteemed as both massive dicks and fucking cunts. These words may be considered insults in some other cultures, but why would central parts of our humanity be deemed insulting? By your analysis it seems to be a legacy of religious repression...??
 Llove2LaughToo
Joined: 4/14/2018
Msg: 18
Samantha Bee is Wonder Woman.
Posted: 6/2/2018 2:13:44 AM

Msg: 16
This is the disintegration of society by democrats to think it's acceptable.


As you should be well aware, this is not unique to democrats.


This is not who I want in my circle of friends or who I want to live around.


And yet you voted for, and still support a misogynist clown who disrespects and has always degraded women.

The problem with making this type of assertion is that right wing conservatives give Comrade Trump a pass that they wouldn't give Trump's opponents.


Donald Trump Has Called Women ‘C*nt’ for 30 Years

Trump himself has been accused of leveling the same language at three women over the span of more than three decades, most recently in author Michael Wolff’s blockbuster book Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House. In Fire and Fury, Trump is reported to have used the oath in reference to former acting attorney general Sally Yates, whom Trump fired after she reached the conclusion that an executive order banning people from seven majority-Muslim countries from entering the United States was unconstitutional.

Wolff notes that while the president was facing off against the entire Justice Department, “to Trump, he was just up against Sally Yates, who was, he steamed, ‘such a c*nt.’”

After reporter Jennifer Lin, then a financial correspondent for the Philadelphia Inquirer, wrote a story about Trump’s attempts to underbid shareholders for increased control of an Atlantic City casino project in 1988, Lin received a call from a Trump Organization secretary asking her to “hold for Mr. Trump.”

“There was no hello. But there was yelling, lots of yelling,” Lin wrote of the exchange in 2016, five weeks before the presidential election. “The word ‘shit’ was used repeatedly as a noun and adjective. I had shit for brains. I worked for a shitty newspaper. What sort of shit did I write.”

Before she could reply, Lin wrote, Trump hung up on her—and then called her editor, who “was treated to the same Trumpian wordplay, but got an added treat.”

“Trump referred to me as ‘that****’” Lin wrote, a word she would later tell CNN was, “in my opinion… the worst word in the English language to refer to a woman.”

Jessica Leeds, now 76, was one of the first women to publicly accuse Trump of sexually aggressive behavior during the presidential campaign

In December of last year, Leeds told NBC’s Megyn Kelly Today that three years after the incident, she ran into Trump again at a charity gala in New York City.

“I knew, and I recognized him, immediately—he’s the guy on the airplane,” Leeds said. “But he stands there, as I’m handing him this table assignment, and he says, ‘I remember you. You were that…” Leeds paused, indicating a missing word, “...woman from the airplane. He called me the worst name ever.”

Asked by Kelly to give the audience a hint, Leeds confirmed that the word began with a “c” and ended with a “t”: “It’s the worst one, it really is.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/forget-samantha-beedonald-trump-has-called-women-cnt-for-30-years


#VoteRepublicansOut2018
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:24:48 AM
Ginger, I know in the UK, everyone is a cvnt or a twat as normal terminology. In the states, C is used as a very derogatory word.

Love, the problem is, everyone wants to be overprotective with a knee-jerk reaction when their party's person is attacked. If people talked normally (dems started being civil), then maybe republicans would express themselves if they had any issues with Trump. Whoever voted for him can't like him all the time, same goes for dem politicians. Everyone was completely happy with Hillary? What if Bernie won? Everyone would have been happy with him too, which would be unbelievable since they're not interchangeable.
 billybonds
Joined: 8/8/2014
Msg: 20
Samantha Bee is Wonder Woman.
Posted: 6/2/2018 4:52:41 AM
I'm aware of her from the daily show with jon Stewart who could be amusing, I recall him beating up on John McCain which was only right for the creep would invade canada given the chance. She was hit and miss like John Oliver a very very modest comedian. I don't care. Roseanne whose shows I have never watched clearly is an idiot. John Oliver really???

America's u3 unemployment figure came out yesterday and it has dropped to 3.8%. I think I'm right in saying that you can only hang about for 4 weeks on this dubious barometer of American economic health. The new jobs created were 223,000. What a President you have. Because he's responsible for the rain, right. Inside these numbers is something called the birth..death model. Which is an analysis of businesses dying and businesses being birthed, it's as far as I can tell, guessed at. That figure was 215,000, 96% of the new jobs.

I think there are over 40% of Americans on food stamps. In the 1930s these would have been soup kitchens along the road. In 2017 there was 60,000 opioid overdoses. Real unemployment is 22% which is a depression era level. Inflation is measured to understate it , hence the lost of purchasing power is worst than propagandise and what weak growth America has is therefore overstated.

America was the biggest creditor nation in the world in 1980 by 1987 it was a debtor nation. It's now the biggest debtor nation in history. It's boring but yeah racists voted for Trump, but, they also voted for Hillary. In short racists vote. What's important though to understand is that the people who voted for Trump voted for change. Not to be confused with the Obama change which was rhetoric and a continuation of the whittling away of America's future. In short they wanted the country restored to the 1950s . Maybe Trump would then turn his hand to g.r.o.a. ....Viz, get racism out of america.

So if Donald is trying to get the jobs back into America he's only doing what his voters or America want him
to do. Call him old fashion but he's trying to keep his campaign promise. So you snowflakes and racists who
voted for Hillary should just butt out and let him strut his stuff.

Will he succeed? In the long term I don't know. In the next few years he's going to have to fake it to make it.
But it seems to me the " liberal " (not really liberal) Will be his best friend. Because if they keep up the
irrational knee-jerk ill-considered opposition to all things Donald, his supporters may just conclude President Trump has done something in connection to bringing the jobs back that congress and sucessive presidents gave away at the behest of wall street, and reward him with four more years if he wants it.

For the record the world's worst currency is the world's reserve currency . We are where we are. The world economy needs dollars. There is about 15 trillion dollars of emerging market debt that needs servicing. When the dollar is strengthening as it's doing now the cost of that debt begins a world of pain as it drives down emerging market currencies. The fed is also increasing interest rates which also gives the dollar a bid and of course it's a perceived safe haven which increases its allure even more. In short the world needs Donald to destroy the dollar's value so they can eat a bit.

I'm one of those that expects the dollar to go to zero in the denouement. We are 97% of the way there. But that last 3% is all we have. And I implore everyone to enjoy it while they can by standing as close as possible to the printing press. So hurry up Donny drop those interest rate rises and fire up the helicopter money.


It's Derby day today. I swear some people dress in the dark .

Vvvv ghost ....they were not tax cuts.....they were financed through debt...it's a dwindling short term boost..both parties are at it....
Trump might win again but also America may elect it's first socialist....
 Viper1j
Joined: 2/6/2015
Msg: 21
Liberals can say whatever they want and it's a-ok...NOT
Posted: 6/2/2018 4:54:26 AM

This is the disintegration of society by democrats to think it's acceptable. Some democrats say they don't need religion in their lives, and then this is what you get, no class, no manners and no morals. This is not who I want in my circle of friends or who I want to live around.


I didn't know Donny was a Democrat.

Or did you forget that he's said much worse? Remember that thing about Megan bleeding out of her "whatever"? Making fun of a disabled reporter? Refusing to let a reporter in because her plastic surgery bandages came off and she was bleeding? Who was it that declared all Mexicans are rapists? Who was it that declared that all nonwhite countries are "sh@thole countries"? Grabbing women by the ****? But that's right, they that you do it, if you're a "star".

Walking backstage while TEENAGE (a.k.a. children) beauty contestants are naked, and changing clothes?

Who is the real "disintegrator" in the room?
 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 22
Liberals can say whatever they want and it's a-ok...NOT
Posted: 6/2/2018 5:02:00 AM
Billy you get lots of this so surely you get trump through his tax cuts has made things that much worse? No chance trump is any sort of savior.
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 23
Samantha Bee is Wonder Woman.
Posted: 6/2/2018 5:12:21 AM
BB, you may enjoy Robert Reich's economic history book from years ago, "The Next American Frontier". I'm only up to the 1970's, but he raised interesting points about how America gave the world the idea that business management should be a study all its own--instead of factories run by engineers who created the business, its run by managers who play with numbers. That by the 1970's, corporations focused not on adding to the surplus of goods, but lawsuits, mergers, and paper profits and tax dodges. None of which employed blue collar workers. When Japanese business had a problem in the 1980's, it got its engineer-based managers to solve the problem, but American management would hire a PR firm to cover it up. and of course, what shareholding has wrought.

Liberals and socialists have tried to get the attention of the American worker since the 1920's strikes, pointing out the inbalance of haves and have nots, and in the 1990s brought up the WTO and other global deals. But they wanted to throw out the baby with the bath water, and the Tea Baggers didn't want to get rid of the capitalism that creates the Establishment and keeps it in power. But they won't mind changing the Constitution and stacking the courts to change the form of government that does.

Speaking of the 1920's, Chump's attempt to return jobs with a trade war, might just repeat history. Making metal expensive just as production is ramping up to meet an increased world demand, well....
 Looney_TTT
Joined: 2/1/2016
Msg: 24
Samantha Bee is a Hero
Posted: 6/2/2018 7:58:21 AM
#12 -

The YUGE difference between Roseanne and Samantha Bee is that -
1) Samantha Bee said a swear word
2) Roseanne said a racist remark

Yep - that's it in a nutshell. Swear word VS. racist remark - can't be compared.

Also, you have to remember that what Samantha said is true and what Rosanne said ISN'T true. Truth VS. lie - can't be compared.


Samantha Bee nailed it. I think her father is a feckless cvnt too.

 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 25
Liberals can say whatever they want and it's a-ok...NOT
Posted: 6/2/2018 8:00:12 AM

Using that word is putting all women down. If Ivanka is a cvnt, then your mother is a cvnt and your sisters, your aunts and grandmothers.

This is the disintegration of society by democrats to think it's acceptable. Some democrats say they don't need religion in their lives, and then this is what you get, no class, no manners and no morals. This is not who I want in my circle of friends or who I want to live around.


Uh, Samantha Bee swore
Roseanne said a racist comment

Why is it that you closed minded conservatives have a problem with swear words but you don't have an issue with blatant racism or bigotry? Why is it that the conservatives don't have a problem with blatant racism, bigotry, sexual harassment, sexual assault, denigrating POWs, grabbing women by the puss!, making fun of the disabled.....all coming from your President - you don't have an issue with it, you don't call him out on it at all. Donald Trump is, IMO, a feckless cvnt and anyone who does stand up and call him out on the things he does like I listed - is also a feckless cvnt.

So Liberals swear - Call the fcking media
Bigots, racist, homophobes - All Conservatives. And feckless cvnts.

The denigration of society began with people like Trump giving voice and a platform to the degenerates...all Conservative.
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