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 Justanotherchap
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Oxford and Cambridge are being accused of being so socially exclusive that they recruit more students from eight top schools than almost 3,000 other English state schools put together.

The Sutton Trust social mobility charity says the leading universities are failing to attract a wide enough range of talent.

Trust founder Sir Peter Lampl said all young people needed a "fair chance".

Oxford University said they are "very aware" that they "must work harder".

The study examined Oxford and Cambridge admissions data between 2015 and 2017 and found a handful of schools, mostly private, disproportionately dominating the number of places awarded.

The Sutton Trust says pupils from eight schools filled 1,310 Oxbridge places over three years, compared with 1,220 from 2,900 other schools.

These 2,900 schools were those with historically few admissions to Oxbridge - and accounted for about three-quarters of secondary schools.

In the last three years, Oxford and Cambridge admitted a total of 19,851 undergraduates, with the remainder of places coming from other private schools and top performing state schools and colleges.

The charity was using anonymised admissions data - but it says it believes most of these eight places were private schools plus a couple of big state sixth-form colleges.

Using published figures, among the schools and colleges with the highest number of Oxbridge admissions are:

Westminster School, London (independent) - an average of 70-80 pupils each year have been offered places at Oxford and Cambridge in the last five years, the school says
Eton College, Berkshire (independent) - in 2014, 82 students were accepted to Oxbridge. The following year 68 were accepted
Hills Road Sixth Form College, Cambridge (state sixth form college) - an average 60 pupils receive Oxbridge offers, the school says
St Paul's School, London (independent) - 53 students went to Oxbridge in 2016 and 41 in 2015
Peter Symonds College, Hampshire (state sixth form college) - an average of 48 students received offers from Oxbridge over the past three years
St Paul's Girls' School, London (independent) - an average of 45 students went to Oxbridge each year between 2015 and 2017
King's College School, London (independent) - sent 48 students to Oxbridge in 2017
Magdalen College School, Oxford (independent) - 44 students went to Oxbridge in 2018
The research also found that high achieving independent school pupils were twice as likely as state school pupils to apply to Oxford and Cambridge, even with the same ability and predicted grades.

The report shows the imbalance in admissions:

7% of all UK pupils attend private schools
18% of those taking A-levels are at private school
34% of Oxbridge applications are from private school
42% of Oxbridge places go to private school pupils
The study says there are some parts of the country where particularly few young state-educated people get places.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 12/7/2018 10:11:38 PM
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"Oxford and Cambridge are being accused of being so socially exclusive that they recruit more students from eight top schools than almost 3,000 other English state schools put together.

The Sutton Trust social mobility charity says the leading universities are failing to attract a wide enough range of talent. Trust founder Sir Peter Lampl said all young people needed a "fair chance".

Oxford University said they are "very aware" that they "must work harder".


That piqued my interest mate. So i had a wee nose on the t'interweb. What i found was no surprise. Look at the figures about mp's and it is no wonder they have not got a clue about the lives citizens lead................

"Who are the people we elect as politicians? And how do their backgrounds influence what they do when elected?

Income and wealth
* The basic annual salary for MPs is £74,962, not including expenses, while the UK median pre-tax full time salary is £27,600. MPs earn more than the bottom 90% of the country.

* Less than 2% of UK adults are millionaires, while at one point two thirds of David Cameron's cabinet were millionaires. Theresa May's cabinet was similarly unrepresentative.

Education
* Just 7% of children go to private school in the UK, but 48% of Conservative MPs, 17% of Labour MPs and 14% of Lib Dems MPs were privately educated.

The average cost for a place at a private school in the UK is £16,119 a year. St Paul's (which George Osborne attended) and Westminster (attended by Nick Clegg) costs £23,481 and £28,200 respectively for day students.

Compare this to how much most people earn in the UK and you can see how exclusionary this is.

* Cameron was the 19th out of 54 prime ministers to have attended Eton. Attendance at Eton currently costs £37,062 a year.

Only nine (or 17% of) prime ministers have been educated at non-fee paying schools, and many of those were selective grammar schools. Both Jeremy Corbyn and Theresa May attended grammar school.

* Less than 1% of the population study at Oxford or Cambridge universities, compared to 75% of all the UK’s prime ministers and 26% of MPs.

* In 2014, an estimated 9% of MPs studied just one subject at one university – Philosophy, Politics and Economics (PPE) at Oxford.

The chart below shows how an education in social studies, law, history and philosophy dominated parliament in 2014, and how science and many other fields are absent or under-represented, which will affect which laws and policies are pursued.

Profession and class
* Only 2% of the adult UK population are landlords, while in 2016, 39% of Tory MPs, 26% of Scottish National party MPs and 22% of Labour MPs were landlords."
https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/ed-jones/these-figures-show-how-out-of-touch-uk-politicians-are-from-everyone-else


"This briefing paper provides data on the gender, age, ethnicity and educational backgrounds of MPs elected at the 2017 General Election and how this has changed over time.

Age
52% (339) of MPs elected in 2017 were aged over 50. Following the election, the proportion of MPs aged 70 and over increased to 4% (28). 14 MPs aged under 30 were elected (2% of the total).

Education
82% of MPs were graduates and 24% have attended Oxford or Cambridge. 29% of MPs attended fee-paying schools.

Parliamentary experience
87 MPs elected in 2017 had no previous Parliamentary experience (13%). 551 (85%) had been MPs in the 2015-17 Parliament and 12 were re-elected having served as MPs further in the past.
https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-7483

But class is something our political elites ignore. Identity politics rule..............

"The representation of women and ethnic minorities in Parliament has been on the increase in Britain over the last few years; however, the representation of other social groups, particularly the working classes has been declining.

This was bought into sharp focus following the 2010 British General Election, when the coalition cabinet was almost entirely composed of millionaires and contained more (rich) ethnic minorities and women than it did people from working class backgrounds.

The situation on the Labour side of the house is hardly any better – with recent concerns openly expressed among some backbenchers that the party has been ‘high jacked by a metropolitan elite.’

The Figure below depicts the changes that have taken place in the social background of Labour and Conservative MPs over the last 50 years.

Although never high compared to the proportion of the working class in the population, the number of MPs with a background in manual work has fallen dramatically.

In 1964, 20 per cent of MPs had a working class occupational background, but by 2010 just 5 per cent of MPs had such a background.

This decline is almost entirely due to changes which have occurred within the Labour party, who were traditionally expected to represent working-class people.

In 1964, Labour was not just a party for the working class, but was also a party that was substantially comprised of the working class, with over 37 per cent of the MPs coming from manual occupational backgrounds.

By 2010 this fell to just under 10 per cent."
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/the-rise-of-middle-class-politicians-and-the-decline-of-class-voting-in-britain/


And yet our political class cannot see that it is not us, the citizens who are out of touch. It is they in their nice cozy career politicians club who have caused untold misery to vast tracts of working class areas in the uk.

Pity we were not like the french. Have mass protests. Look at the damage brexit has caused them? The power is in our hands but the globalists hold all the aces.
 Justanotherchap
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Posted: 12/8/2018 6:10:05 AM
the trouble is Vlad that this Tommy Robinson you seem to like is being bank rolled by right wingers in America. And we've that other right wing dritt sek Steve bannerman getting involved here too. There are far too many rich bustards influencing our polls via the media. We need to get a grip such that people are limited to the amount of money they can donate to a political party, £100 maximum I would suggest with instant gaol time for breaches of that. And we need to get rid of so called think tanks who are nothing more than paid influencers. And get the rich media barons off our backs. Shoot them if necessary. We need democracy and we are not going to get it while rich people have so much power.
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Posted: 12/8/2018 7:12:38 AM
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"the trouble is Vlad that this Tommy Robinson you seem to like is being bank rolled by right wingers in America. And we've that other right wing dritt sek Steve bannerman getting involved here too."


When i first heard about tommy robinson was not long after mental islamists abused troops parading through the streets of luton. Feelings were running high. Now it is just a fact that most working class folk either know or have known someone who has been in the forces.

Then a group in luton organised a protest about the islamist hate preachers who stand in luton town centre calling for the destruction of the west.

Then came the edl. They were putting thousands out on the streets in englandshire. There was no organisation to the edl. The sight of so many working class out protesting scared the shite out of the political establishment and the lying press.

They couldn't understand that many millions of citizens are quite proud of their country and their flag. And that troops being abused and called child killers pissed them off. Then the burning of the poppy on remembrance sunday by islamists (who were protected by the polis while they burnt it) pissed them off even more.

When robinsons book Enemy Of The State came out i bought it. Robinson has a cousin who was groomed. She appeared at her folks door one day with her groomer. He told them to say goodbye to their daughter because they would never see her again. And they haven't.

The edl was always going to implode. Thousands of working class gathering together meant trouble of some kind would happen.

He has a drug conviction. So what. Blairs son was caught with drugs as was jack straws son.

He was convicted of fraud. I refer back to the political elite and the defrauding of the public purse.

He's a convicted football hooligan. And? How many bombs did lutons hooligan firm drop on islamic nations?

His book is interesting when he speaks of jail. Put in muslim run jails. Locked in a room with three convicted islamists who were caught as they drove to bomb an edl rally.

Ask yourself this chapster. How can that one laddie, who by the way has FIVE osman warnings, meaning credible threats to his and his families lives, draw so much support?

There are millions of citizens who are sick to the back teeth of hearing about 'muslim outrage' 'muslim fury' etc etc.

And yes i know about the finances backing him. It's not something i would want to be part of.

But then you have george soros bank rolling united against fascism. Yes the same mugs who share platforms with extreme conservative islamo fascists.

Then we had 50,000 working class demonstrating against islamist violence. The democratic football lads alliance.

Maybe if the elitist fvckers in westmonster had got a grip on islamo fascist violence 50,000 folk would not have been on the street.

As for the two marches tomorrow. The brexit betrayed one and the soros funded other one. Which one will have the most working class taking part?'.............

"If Tommy Robinson is a monster, the left is his Dr Frankenstein
Time and again, the left’s failings have fuelled the Tommy Robinson phenomenon."
https://www.spiked-online.com/2018/12/07/if-tommy-robinson-is-a-monster-the-left-is-his-dr-frankenstein/


Have you heard of the bbc lassie stacey dooley? She done a show from her hometown of luton. She went to the same school as tommy robinson. It's worth a watch to hear the abuse and see the hatred the islamists have for her.........

"Stacey Dooley Investigates Luton"
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3cjs5v


"There are far too many rich bustards influencing our polls via the media. We need to get a grip such that people are limited to the amount of money they can donate to a political party, £100 maximum I would suggest with instant gaol time for breaches of that."

I'm in total agreement. £100 is too much. I would say £20.................

"And we need to get rid of so called think tanks who are nothing more than paid influencers."

Gasp. You are not trying to say our incorruptible political class are not squeeky clean are you?..............

"And get the rich media barons off our backs. Shoot them if necessary."

And use them as land fill?................

"We need democracy and we are not going to get it while rich people have so much power."

We need more brexits. More yellow vests. We need change.

Maybe it's no your cup of tea but i can send you a copy of Enemy Of The State by email. Then you can read his side. Something the lying press will not make you aware of.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 12/8/2018 7:54:20 AM
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Just as a matter of interest do you think that tommy robinson is 'far right' 'extreme right' etc etc?

If you do what makes you think that? The nonsense being written about ukip now being 'far right' in the lying press because tommy robinson has joined them is unhinged.

What do you think makes someone 'far right'?

The same lazy journalists also say Marine le Pen and her party are 'far right'. Yet their heartlands are the former communist strongholds. Mitterand said their manifesto was virtually 'communist'.

In italy 5 star and the League are also apparently 'far right'.

In poland, the government elected overwhelmingly by polish citizens is 'nearly' 'far right'.

The sweden democrats? Yep 'far right'.

And the bogey man himself. Viktor orban in hungary. 'Far FAR right'.

Yet orban paid off the IMF then threw them out of hungary. FORCED banks and utility companies to pay compensation to hungarian citizens whom they robbed.

Funnily enough they all have one thing in common. They want to look after THEIR nations citizens. They all oppose globalisation. They all think that allowing cheap exploitable foreign workers to arrive in their hundreds of thousands is detrimental to the working class in their nations.
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Posted: 12/8/2018 10:12:35 AM
I’ve bought the vodka, beers and munchies.
Surprise!!
(Is it his birthday?)
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