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 justinelle
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Influential Zionist historian Benny Morris, professor of the Middle East studies department of the Israeli Ben-Gurion University of the Negev, has foreseen a bleak future for the Zionist establishment.

"Already today there are more Arabs than Jews between the sea and the Jordan. The whole territory is unavoidably becoming one state with an Arab majority," said Morris in an interview published by the Israeli Haaretz newspaper on Thursday.

"Israel still calls itself a Jewish state, but a situation in which we rule an occupied people that has no rights, can not persist in the 21st century, in the modern world. And as soon as they do have rights, the state will no longer be Jewish," added Morris.

Morris, who was injured by an Egyptian artillery shell in 1969, was discharged from the military to eventually become one of Israel’s influential historians. Describing himself as a staunch "left-winger" and "Zionist," Morris is part of a controversial group of Israeli revisionist historians, openly admitting to and defending events like the 1948 expulsion of Palestinians that is today remembered as the Nakba Day.

"A Jewish state would not have come into being without the uprooting of 700,000 Palestinians. Therefore it was necessary to uproot them. There was no choice but to expel that population," said Morris in an interview with Haaretz in 2004.

Today, however, Morris believes Israel faces a bleak future considering Arabs' non-integration in Israel and their larger population.

"The Palestinians look at everything from a broad, long-term perspective. They see that at the moment, there are five-six-seven million Jews here, surrounded by hundreds of millions of Arabs," the historian said in the Thursday interview.
"They have no reason to give in, because the Jewish state can not last."

Morris further envisions how an Israel dominated by Arabs will slowly disintegrate.

"The Arabs will demand the return of the refugees. The Jews will remain a small minority within a large Arab sea of Palestinians,” the historian said.

"Those among the Jews who can, will flee to America and the West [to avoid persecution]."
Many Jews, however, have rejected the Zionist concept of Israel being a legitimate Jewish state, dismissing Morris’s understanding, which pits Jews against Arabs.

Some say the propaganda of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has tried to convince world public opinion that Iran's call for the liberation of Palestine is synonymous with genocide.

Iranian officials have, however, refuted those claims, stressing that Iran prefers a peaceful solution for Palestine, calling for a referendum where Palestinians can decide the fate of their territory.
 platitude545
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Time and experience influences an influential historian
Posted: 1/18/2019 6:58:54 PM
"I feel sympathy for the Palestinian people, which truly underwent a hard tragedy. I feel sympathy for the refugees themselves. But if the desire to establish a Jewish state here is legitimate, there was no other choice. It was impossible to leave a large fifth column in the country. From the moment the Yishuv [pre-1948 Jewish community in Palestine] was attacked by the Palestinians and afterward by the Arab states, there was no choice but to expel the Palestinian population. To uproot it in the course of war.

"Remember another thing: the Arab people gained a large slice of the planet. Not thanks to its skills or its great virtues, but because it conquered and murdered and forced those it conquered to convert during many generations. But in the end the Arabs have 22 states. The Jewish people did not have even one state. There was no reason in the world why it should not have one state. Therefore, from my point of view, the need to establish this state in this place overcame the injustice that was done to the Palestinians by uprooting them."

No, Zionism was not a mistake. The desire to establish a Jewish state here was a legitimate one, a positive one. But given the character of Islam and given the character of the Arab nation, it was a mistake to think that it would be possible to establish a tranquil state here that lives in harmony with its surroundings."
 Million_Reasons
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Posted: 1/18/2019 7:04:46 PM
"Iranian officials have, however, refuted those claims, stressing that Iran prefers a peaceful solution for Palestine, calling for a referendum where Palestinians can decide the fate of their territory."


Irianian citizens would beg to differ.

Who you gonna believe? Officials or citizens?


Seems to be the problem of the entire World. Nobody listens to the people.


Can you hear them now? No? How about now? No?

Soon....you will.
 platitude545
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Posted: 1/19/2019 5:01:42 AM
^^^^oh come on, ot is the iranian goverment calling for the destruction of israel...not necessarily its people.
 justinelle
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Posted: 1/19/2019 3:07:15 PM
Does anyone read the whole of the post or are the fanatics just too impatient to discuss the post, and have to redirect it, to their own narrow viewpoint. Beware of ideological fanatics wherever theya re as its a state of the human psychologicl structures, similar to Masochist's desire for self flagellation. We all know that western relogions are based on gult, and the desire to seek redenption, which is also the traditional refuge of the closet masochist. Its so predictable....YAWN!!!
 BBEisBack
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Posted: 1/20/2019 5:46:54 PM

Does anyone read the whole of the post.


TL;DR
 daynadaze
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Posted: 1/20/2019 7:10:45 PM
LOL. Yes, we all just jump in and make stuff up and plagiarize....
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