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 DDSearle
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I have my doubts about such conditions
It may be that, in the U K, 'attention-deficit disorder', 'autism', 'dyslexia', &c are concocted syndromes that serve the interests of pseudo-scientific physicians or psychiatrists, not those of a healthy or efficient society. And welfare-savvy parents are pushing to have their children diagnosed with such a condition, in order to gain extra benefits and to register themselves as a government-funded 'carer' of the said offspring. Additionally, the afflicted are given various benefits in school etc. Probably, the seriously sick are being relegated to the back of the long (NHS) queue
 johnfromzelie
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Posted: 2/1/2019 2:40:48 PM
not sure if the conditions are connected nor how much is exaggerated but around here, it is common practice to have kids 'tested' for a.d.d. because of the s.s.i. payments.
 Inicia
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Posted: 2/1/2019 3:52:40 PM
It is real- however- organic or a mix of organic/nurture, idk, and whether we need see it as aberrant to be fixed- or adjust society IDK... I imagine it would be extremely stressful and difficult for the parents-for the child it might not be as stressful if they were not labelled aberrant and needing fixing.. We want children to connect-yet for many yrs any entertainment that did not involve other humans has been the goto solution for overburdened parents. People can't even call each other- we have text speak- talk about no connection!! maybe producing offspring that do not respond to human connection is the next evolutionary step...
 IgorFrankensteen
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Posted: 2/3/2019 1:33:07 PM
I think you meant "affectation."

Autism is one among many LABELS which have been concocted to provide a word to us to talk about VERY REAL recognized conditions, that previously were labeled with older words that were recognized not to fit them.

As with many labels, once they are in place, some people will flock to declare that the conditions they are confused by, belong under the label as well. Not everyone who is thus labeled, will actually fit as well as others.

This is especially true of all identifiable PROBLEMS, which don't (yet) have any physiological elements that can be used to absolutely confirm them.
Many people to this day, insist that there is no such thing as homosexuality, because we have yet to have found a simple physical test to accurately identify it.

Many people today still think that ALL mental differences and challenges are similarly "affectations," because no physiology has been identified to be intrinsically linked to them.

Nevertheless, most of us do recognize that these conditions or characteristics are very much real.

But all it takes politically, for people with real problems to be declared to be fakers, is for some people to resent anyone who gets help or special allowances, that can't be proven physically.
 DDSearle
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Posted: 2/3/2019 1:47:56 PM
No
I mean affection
 Inicia
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Posted: 2/3/2019 6:51:51 PM
So you are stating autism disorder is an affection for diagnosis and monetary assistances? Thats what can be discerned from your post- Please define the area you apply affection-affection is a warmth fondness for something? Or maybe without you clarifying any symptoms of Autism you do understand autistic symptoms include an inability to connect with other humans?
 feirene
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Posted: 2/4/2019 3:39:34 AM
Autism is a syndrome and a developmental disorder.
Syndrome means a collection of symptoms have been given a name, so if someone has the required amount of symptoms in that collection they can be diagnosed with that syndrome, this means no syndrome isn't real.
The brain structure in autistic people is different to usual. So it seems likely to be real affliction just going off that alone.

If we add the behaviours of autistic people and how they can't cope with certain things or are unable to understand stuff then we can see this is how they become disabled and maybe need extra help to be included in society, and this is where the benefits payments come in handy because disability tends to come with extra costs.

People with aspergers tend to have a higher IQ than someone considered retarded, but still tend to have problems functioning in society because of sensory processing, inability to understand cues, inability to understand social norms. So they'll still need help too.

Of course people aren't going to turn down any extra help for their child, whether from welfare, school, or specialised services, but this doesn't mean they are faking anything or don't need the help.

Carers allowance is £65 a week, not a very good wage especially as you have to be a carer for someone for at least 39 hours a week, this is lower than minimum wage and a government paid carer would get a lot more. Someone needing 24/7 care
should have at least 2 carers but sadly only one person can claim they are a carer for an individual and so it's hard for them and tough luck really.

It is thought a lot of children diagnosed with ADD/ADHD are given a wrong diagnosis just because they are a problem/causing problems, but i have seen children with this disorder and they are very real.

The NHS is picking up a lot of the slack for other welfare services because those services are being underfunded. Our NHS and welfare services were there for preventative care, because stopping people from becoming more ill costs less money than treating them when they became more ill. Now this government doesn't really care and would love all welfare to be gone, but while we protest that they continue to keep it but also underfund it so everyone is struggling more.
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