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 triplebp
Joined: 10/6/2005
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hmmmmm

I just had a triple by pass and the care I received was beyond excellent. It must be this hospital and not Ontario as that is where live and I received this top notch service.
I actually was amazed that these people have so much compassion to care for people at their worst. There are not enough words or actions of appreciation that I could ever conjure up to even come close to repayment of the care I received.

I guess this happens but it was not my experience. I just wish I could remember all of the people that I came in contact with to personally thank them.

They are true compassionate heroes.
 justjazz
Joined: 9/8/2005
Msg: 5
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Posted: 1/17/2006 8:49:46 AM
You need to contact the hospital administration immediately! The total lack of care and professionalism is beyond words. Call, write, visit...do something please
 justjazz
Joined: 9/8/2005
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Posted: 1/18/2006 1:55:46 PM
A friend of mine lives in Canada. He told me his dog could get an MRI sooner then he can....is that true?
 PrincessNaughty
Joined: 11/4/2005
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Posted: 1/31/2006 4:48:31 PM
I work in a hospital and my best advise is to complain! If something is not right complain about it! We have a patient advocate here at are hospital that comes to solve issues like these. Most hospitals want you to want to come back, word of mouth is important to hospitals! So if the immediate staff is not treating you well go above them. Get the care you and your family deserve!
 2 can chew2
Joined: 1/30/2006
Msg: 19
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Posted: 4/2/2006 3:38:01 PM
a friend of mine, In December 15 He was diagnose with liver and pancreas cancer and a tumor on the pancreas that is pushing against the colon and prevent him having any bowl movement, the doctor told him there was nothing they couldn't do, the cancer was to far gone and them could not give him chemo. Instead they told him to go home with a patch of morphine and fix his paper. he had 2 months to live. He started drinking this health product the next day. The first day he drank a full bottle of juice 30zo and the same amount of water the next day he said, he was not a horse, that he would not drink all that liquid. The next day#2 , he drank 2oz of juice and half a litre of water same for the next week and some day he would not drink any juice. The recipe for cancer is one bottle a day for 4 days and half a bottle for the next4 days and 10 oz for 30 days. This went on till march he never had anything to eat since December and had gone from 180lb to120lb and the nurse told his ex wife and family he had a week a day or less. His daughter walked in the kitchen and busted in tears when she saw her Dad, he was gray with death in his eyes. That when I told him that he was a selfish man and told him that you talk about how much you love your kid and your grandchildren and yet your not doing nothing to save your life, you selfish moron , ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS DRINK 4 GLASS OF JUICE A DAY TO SAVE YOUR LIFE . That when he said OK, I will drink the juice. He started on half a bottle 16oz every day. He started to have red color in the face but still losing weight, but still drinking lots of juice more then the recipe asked for. The 24 of April during the night he puke and shit himself in bed he made a hell of a mess. I got there they said that they ere bringing there dad to hospital they will install a hose from the mouth into the stomach, if he was to be sick they would plug the hose to this suction and the liquid goes in a big 5 litre jug, hanging on the wall by the bed . I told them that his dad did not have a bowl movement since December and now he had a bowl movement all by himself, he's getting better. I told them. The throwing up is natural, the cancer has to come out somewhere, the ex wife insisted to bring him to the hospital. The first day they connected the hose though the mouth into the stomach and they suck up 5 liter of liquid from hi stomach, which was the juice and water he drank before outside. The nurse took the jar from the wall and dump it in the toilet rinse it and put it back on its rack and plug the hose. that night his Daughter wanted to stay overnight with his dad. next day when I got to the hospital the nurse was getting ready to remove the jar again from the wall and again she drop it in the toilet and back on the wall. That when I ask the nurse if, she monitor the intake of the liquid he consume and the amount of liquid they trow in the toilet it did not match, after that they were monitoring the liquid. I would bring him to drink the juice outside drinking 3/4 bottle of the juice and smoking grass, When he got back to his room his ex wife insisted to plug the hose . The juice and water that I made him drink that after noon went in the dispenser jar. Day 4, the nurse came over to change the nidle for the morphine in the other arm, they could not find a vein. That when I told the nurce, that they were killing this guy ,you are sucking him dry. The nurse was piste at me and the ex was in bad term with me, because he smoke grass. and by now he had lost the ability to walk and losing weight at the eye site. Then the ex wife said no more Juice, to stop giving him the juice, and two days before he thank me for saving his life. no more juice the ex said and three day later he died.

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IT would have been nice when my friend went to the Doctor for his result and was told there is nothing they couldn't do with the chemo, but we could prescribe a natural product that will help the cancer with no side effect. Hhmmmmmm but the Canadian doctor wont read on it and it was in their 2003 edition Physicians Desk Reference and still today why $

my friend lived for 5 month on morphine and water and juice not any juice, if he would not have gone to the hospital to get the hose shoved down his throat and still was able to drink the juice after the bowl movement then he would have eaten and regain his normal weight and would have beaten the cancer naturally with just a juice

I was with my friend every day from December to the end I know what cancer can do and also how you could fight it
The nurse did not have a clue of what happening in these five month he was hospitalised three times and was release. One nurse suggested to have the hose installed through the stomach instead of the mouth so he could eat daaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

from the day the started drinking the juice his morphine was controlled, when he did not drink the juice he would have to press on the Burton or additional shots
 lynney
Joined: 3/16/2006
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Posted: 6/4/2006 6:56:14 PM
when i had my surgery, everyone was very competent, but i can't say that they had any empathy!

i had warned the entire staff that when i woke up, i would probably cry non stop. i knew this because they put me under for my wisdom teeth, and that's what i did when i woke up - it's just the effect that the drug has on me.

so, needless to say, when i woke up, i started balling right away, and the nurses actually yelled at me! they also wouldn't let my boyfriend in the room for more than five minutes TOTAL, even though they'd told me that he could be there as soon as i woke up, until i left. they had stuffed three of us into the same recovery room, which was very small.

i was not impressed. i was very happy with my doctor, but not with his staff.
 Buh-Bye!
Joined: 10/21/2006
Msg: 31
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Posted: 10/29/2006 2:17:59 PM
Lots of problems in hospitals, but can't say they've been nurse related.

the whole medical profession is at a loss, they are all underpaid and over worked.

They are human, and you are going to find as many incompetent people in hospitals as you would a grocery store, a restrauant, a gas station, a library, with a plumbing company, a law firm, the police station and schools...no one is safe or immune.

that's life and you have to stand up and watch out for yourself just like you would anywhere else.
 Buh-Bye!
Joined: 10/21/2006
Msg: 32
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Posted: 10/29/2006 2:21:27 PM
jezebella

You are totally wrong...
if ya cant move it ,...then it's broke...

keep your ignorant nonmedical self posts to yourself.
you're practicing medicine without a license.

it needs to be examined,duh.
 Buh-Bye!
Joined: 10/21/2006
Msg: 33
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Posted: 10/29/2006 2:26:19 PM
Jojobeans
msg 29

I don't think nurses in the US love their jobs any more than the ones in Canada do.
it's a hard, thankless position wherever you are.
 beerchen
Joined: 5/9/2007
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Posted: 12/10/2007 9:48:16 PM
I'm saddend by what you had to experience while your mother was in the hospital.
I do know the other side, the nurse side.

Having 14 patients to a nurse is absolutely rediculous in an acute care facility. I am by no means making excuses for anyone, but we have to remember that the nurse only have 2 hands and 2 feet also.

As far as the competence of the nurses, that is just plain sad. You actually have yourself a nice reason for a law suit just from your mother suffering consequences from being served the wrong breakfast. * at least in the US. * ( i believe it falls under a med error as a diet is doctor ordered).

I would have pulled my mother out asap, ok. within reason of medical stability and ability to transfer.

I work in an acute care rehab center and we have very ill patients. The most I have ever had under my belt is 4 patients with the assistance of a Nursing Assistant who would have 10 patients all together.

I must say though that the old man who fell should have had a urinal by his bedside, and not tried to walk on his own. It does happen though as some elderly are confused and forget they are not supposed to get out of bed for any reason.

As for your situtation, complain to all departments of health you can find, and the hospital itself.
 NurseJulie
Joined: 12/1/2007
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Posted: 12/15/2007 5:52:22 PM
Thanks Meowgrrr, amen sister, you tell it. I don't think I could have said it any better. We have a lot of non compliant patients that eat what they want and do what they want to do. Family will bring in meds and food even though we have clearly asked that we provide those to the patient. Plus, if your mother is a diabetic, surely she should have known what she could and could not eat. I also agree with the infection part. Nothing like an infection to shoot a blood sugar up. Also, about the man that fell, did he Call with his light, or scream out to the hall like he might do most of the time, because he's confused and getting on the other patient's nerves. Nurses are NOT stupid, and it is a job that is hard and without thanks most of the time. I have been spit at, pinched, bit, cursed, slapped, kicked, punched, and even been told what a fat ass I am. I have NEVER done harm to a patient, nor will I ever. Not that we haven't joked about a pillow treatment every now and then. The majority of my patients love me because I joke with them and try my best to make them feel better.
I have patients that the only reason they are there is because they want drugs, they will argue with you every time about when they last had their medication. I'm sorry your mother had to wait for her Demerol, but nurses are human too. We read armbands and we look at the chart and match them up. That nurse might have given the other patient "Their" dose of demerol and not your mom's. That is a common narcotic that is abused frequently. Sometimes I might give a person their med, and then give another person theirs, and get busy, (which happens a lot), and think it's not time, but look up and realize that the hours have flown by. I do Not ever deny a patient pain meds, simply because if I assess that patient and know they can handle them and they are whining, I will give them the med just so they will shut the hell up. Most of those patients are very ungrateful anyway. But, I'm sure that was not the case with your mother.
As a nurse, I will tell you this. Our HANDS are tied a lot of the time. We would love to be your mother's personal nurse, but usually we have another group of patients that might be more time consuming. Here in Alabama, we have no laws regarding patient to nurse ratio, and having up to 9 patients is very stressful. Especially if we have a new admit, one coming back from surgery, one asking for pain medication, one falling out of the bed, one bedridden with pressure ulcers that has to be cleaned and turned, one that is on isolation (and every time you go in the room you have to put on the gown, gloves, and mask), one that is having a seizure, and one that is in resp distress, USUALLY ALL AT THE SAME TIME, and finally, the one with the family member that has no clue what is going on with the patient, but they come up to the hospital and demand to **** out the nurse because they didn't get the full and correct story from the patient. (most of the time, if the nurse and the family will talk to the patient, the truth comes out eventually). Oh, I did forget one, the one that gets neglected, the patient that is your best patient. You go to their room as much as you can when the other patients aren't crashing and burning, and you tell that patient, "I just want to thank you for being my best patient today, I have some really sick patients that have kept me very busy, and I just want you to know that I'm still here for you and if you need anything at all, just call".
For the most part, I love my job because I can make a difference in the lives of the people I care for. I am very smart and I try to make sure that my patient and their family is educated about their condition, what could cause their condition, and what they can do to live with it. I also try to let the family know that I am there for them also. Being in the hospital is a trying time for the patient and their family. It is very stressful to everyone involved. Also, please understand that nurses are very busy and that no we can't give information over the phone, so please tell your 20 relatives and friends not to keep calling the desk.
With all that being said, a bit of advice that will get your mother or loved one the best care possible is that if you work with the nurses to help with your mother's care, your mother will recover faster, and the nurses will appreciate you and your mother even more.
 kasandroid
Joined: 3/22/2006
Msg: 45
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Posted: 12/18/2007 6:46:29 PM
^^^^Ok could you care to explain why women are being denied PAIN MEDS after surgery or for a disease like Endometriosis? Yeah what's up with my friend having her ovary and tube removed and only getting ADVIL? Or an eldery patient breaking her collarbone and not getting some lousy T#3's?

Care to explain why men get handed pain pills like candy when women with ongoing Pain problems have to go on the streets to get some lousy T#3's their so called caring specialist won't prescribe? Care to explain why a man gets a hundred T#3's a month and drives a motor vehicle and his doctor knows but we women have to SUFFER and beg and plead for relief? Cause of someone else's stupid addiction? Care to explain why Street people get treated better then women with no history of shooting up or other bad addictions?

Care to explain why I've been referred 3 times for a bunion with bursitis on my foot and still have no appointment almost 3 years later?

Care to explain why someone who has tendinitis in their hand and a throbbing vein that pops out after drawing/writing can't even get a referral or some test? Am I suppossed to chores by mouth as well?

Care to explain why DOCTORS can't READ a letter of DIAGNOSIS and treat you like a mystery when you have all the signs and symptoms of bloody endometriosis? When you were diagnosed with it in the first place? CRIKEY

On and on the stories go, Ontario is in a SAD state of affairs when it comes to the HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. I am sure the medical people are caring but us PEOPLE aren't seeing a WHOLE LOT OF PROOF. Are we all suppossed to just put our lives on hold and drop like flies until this sad state of affairs IMPROVE?

This is why people have bad attitudes. How about the Health Care Pro's start listening to us instead of scoffing at us, or saying condescending things, or acting like we don't know our own BODIES. It's quite obvious if someone is in BAD PAIN, and they are just being IGNORED or DENIED MEDS THAT HELP, it's TIME for A WAKE UP CALL.
 kasandroid
Joined: 3/22/2006
Msg: 48
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Posted: 12/18/2007 8:33:18 PM
Well golly gee they are so many sick and needy PATIENTS who are being IGNORED and they are suppossed to thank everyone who went to medical school while they ROT AWAY waiting for someone who gets paid to listen, actually LISTEN?

Ya ya nurses and doctors should get respect but not the patients, no we are last on the list because I guess golly gee we are all a bunch of whiners and our suffering is just for attention, cause golly gee we can't think of better ways to WASTE our time then 5 to 8 hours (or more) for a visit for another useless trip that got us nowhere.

Bla bla, and who should some young man thank when he's puking up food and ensure and can't be seen for months and months? Or he can't drink ensure or milk? And is off work and can't get immediate help? So if and when he he is just skin and bones who should he THANK?

Ya ya thank who? Thank the stomach specialist who won't see me again cause I need another referral from a family doctor and I don't have one anymore? Thank who when I CAN'T EAT properly and no one gives a damn?

Gotta go throw my steak in a blender now............no need to worry about me being obese and developing problems because of that.

Hey maybe that's a new healthcare plan?
 kasandroid
Joined: 3/22/2006
Msg: 50
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Posted: 12/19/2007 11:01:22 AM
Where in this thread does it say CANADIANS cannot participate? Wasn't POF created by a Canadian? Yeah writing about it even if it comes off whiny or complainy is another action of doing something. Those who aren't feeling up to par aren't gonna be going around WHISTLING DIXIE.

Again if health Care Pro's listened and helped people wouldn't go around B1tchin about them. Again if certain Doctors could read maybe their Patient could get some VALIDATION.

I am sure your a nice person and good at your job. Even if a person is mad or dissapointed with Health Care People it doesn't mean they hate them or want to sue everybody. The sick people don't actually want to ruin medical people's lives. But hey if they can't have a life due to incompetance or whatever goes on in each case, then guess who's not helping them with their lives? Isn't there a Hippocratic Oath to follow?

Ok I am going to kidnap some Family Doctors today and bring them to this town, anybody got a car? There's my action of doing something then. LOL
 kasandroid
Joined: 3/22/2006
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Posted: 12/20/2007 6:41:35 AM
It seems someone has a real chip on their shoulder against Canadians participating in THREADS and of course if they aren't medical people any opinions/experiences they have automatically is invalid and is a personal attack on anyone who is in healthcare.

Funny too when this thread was started by a CANADIAN, so there. LOL, again certain reading skills blows me away. JK

No point in learning why folks have a chip on their shoulder "EH", no instead just call them IGNORANT and what not.

Well I gotta go put on my snow shoes to walk my dog now and add some finishing touches to my igloo, god help me if I get Frostbite and have to see a medical person after what I posted here...........Disclaimer: THAT IS A JOKE
 kasandroid
Joined: 3/22/2006
Msg: 57
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Posted: 12/20/2007 9:20:34 AM
Hey yeah I hear Whale Blubber is very healthy, hmm I dunno never had it before, and beer I can only have a good day. Oh what the hell I'll bring my BLENDER and mix it all up! WHOO HOO, oh yeah it'll be a party!

 kasandroid
Joined: 3/22/2006
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Posted: 12/20/2007 8:59:40 PM
Oh please you think people who are sick and visit doctors and the hospitals want to volunteer there? You think they are allowed even?

Think I'm going to volunteer at the same place where I can't even get A BUNION removed till I'm 90? Or what I already blabbed about?

Yeha that would be the last place I'd want to volunteer unless it's with the sick kids. Least I could be their CLOWN and get them giggling.
 NurseJulie
Joined: 12/1/2007
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Posted: 12/25/2007 10:53:05 PM
hey kasandroid. I don't know if this will help, but I did a travel nurse job in California last year. There's a doc there that will validate your pain with the endometriosis, and give you kick ass meds to boot. While I was there, we had people from all over the US and other countries come to see him and have surgery. It sounds as though you have a lot of the same problems these other women had. He has a website if you would like to look him up. http://www.drcook.com and he's a nice guy to boot. good luck with your problems, and I wish that you can get the care you need.
 Steve_Sandy
Joined: 3/19/2006
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Posted: 12/28/2007 1:52:49 PM
some are pretty good, but had to undergo surgery late at night once, woke up to find some tard had tied a ribbon and bow around an apendage that was not being worked on, if they had simply taped it out of the way, would not be concerned,

lots of antibiotics and the 3 inch deep and long wound in the leg was not responding, looked sort of brown, felt really warm and so went to the local health food shops and got 5-10 mils of lavender and tea tree oil to use as a massage. local nurse was visibly relieved that had self medicated with some essential oils, was quit sore going into the wound, but it healed up nicely, stopped the swelling very quickly as well :)
 kasandroid
Joined: 3/22/2006
Msg: 71
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Posted: 12/30/2007 12:28:58 AM
Hey sweet Nurse thanks I will look that up!

And hooray I finally have that BUNION appointment!

Actually it's not nurses that I get Grumpy about..........
 i like cats
Joined: 10/28/2007
Msg: 77
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Posted: 2/9/2008 11:39:47 AM
^^^ Well said, nicenurse and London Lass....quite accurate indeed!!

Apparantly, the general population and even some coworkers (other surgeons & physicians) think it's ok to physically and/or verbally abuse nurses to get what they want.

I don't get it. Nurses didn't sign up to be abused. They are people in professions like anyone else. The grocery store clerk, the plumber, the mechanic the attorney....they don't commonly get hit, bit, scratched or yelled at when their clients are unhappy!!

I really wish things were better for nurses.... Hugs to all of you that do it!!
 dawnskey
Joined: 6/10/2007
Msg: 84
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Posted: 12/1/2008 8:09:52 AM
I know I'm like 2 years behind, but I just found this thread.

Canada has a healthcare program provided by the country as a whole. Unlike that of the US. To each their own. The healthcare in the US is by far better. We as a people hire who we want to care for us. As far as hospitals and nurses, well, you can see it both ways. I've seen nurses that just don't care, I've seen nurses that bend over backwards for their patients. As for me, a previous patient care tech, found that caring for deathly ill patients very cumbersome. SOme more than ever dependent strictly on the nurse and assistants. Like they are unable to do anything for themselves. True?

Some nurses are strictly in it for the $$, which is unfortunate. But I know there is a shortage of RN's and they are pretty much able to choose where they want to work.

Sadly but true, if the RN is in it for the $$, you're somewhat screwed. If the RN is in it for the trade, you'll experience a truly amazing experience.
 professora
Joined: 7/28/2008
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Posted: 12/23/2008 8:21:52 PM
kane stays-
I am a nurse and now teach at the university to student nurses.

The nurses are understaffed and forced to care for too many patients. California mandated by law that each nurse must have no more than 5 patients. If the other states do this, the nursing care would improve and substandard care would diminish. It is sad that nurse give poor care because there are so few nurses.

It is a tragedy that a nurse is expected to provide quality care to 6 , 7, 8 , or 9 patients at a time.
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