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 SelfSufficient
Joined: 12/14/2005
Msg: 4
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I thought class ware fare was the topic?

If so it's just one of the many createed distractions like: drug warefare, poverty warefare, the war on this and the war on that to distract us from the fact that the real enemy is the government.
 SelfSufficient
Joined: 12/14/2005
Msg: 6
Class Warfare
Posted: 6/24/2006 4:49:38 PM
Well if government is the tool being used by the enemy then government becomes my enemy. I don't know about you but ANY entity that rapes, steals, and takes away feedoms is my enemy.

I think you are trying to put the blame on big business. I don't see it. Without an out of control government (too big, too powerful) big business would be totally impotent and have to rely on the free maret to accomplish anything.


I will agree that what we refer to as "capitalism" is extremely corrupted and more closely resembles merchantilism. The answer in my book is to get closer to a free market than the mess that we now have.

I soundly reject any form of socialism mainly because it is immoral. I have nothing against voluntary socialism however. The nuclear family is a good example of a voluntary socialist unit.

Forms of government that are not vountary tend to worry me. I agree with the Austrian economists (Mises and Rothbard) that freedom in economics is not only he correct and moral thing to do it is also the method that works. http://www.mises.org/articles.aspx

And to get back on topic class warefare (including getting people mad at big business) is just one of the ploys of government.
 dogar2007
Joined: 5/24/2006
Msg: 7
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Posted: 6/24/2006 5:52:12 PM
Government, business, and religion should be separate entities, not in bed with each other. As long as political parties are collecting money from big business and other interest groups to finance TV media blitz campaigns, the politicians will be corruptly beholden to these interests. As long as churches can maintain their tax-free status and still tell people who to vote for, politicians will kiss their butts just like Sen. John McCain did down at Jerry Falwell's church recently.

Public (yes, taxpayer) financed political campaigns are the only way to end this cycle. No more gifts or trips from lobbyists - none - period. If somebody wants to discuss business with my Senatort, they can go to his office in Wsahington. They don't need to rendezvous in the Bahamas to talk about a string of factories in California. One tool of potential use here is the FCC licensing renewal process. Use of the airwaves is a licensed privilege, not a right. If a station will not contribute so many prime-time minutes per year to candidates running for office, they don't get renewed - period.

They might have to pay Jerry Seinfeld $950,000 an episode instead of a million, but I can live with that, if it gets my Congressman off the take.
 thetangypanda
Joined: 3/14/2006
Msg: 9
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Posted: 6/27/2006 10:19:20 PM
There are few things that keep the working classes from rising up. The religious idea of a 'reward' after death, the idea of the 'American Dream'... which I assume Canada might have some version of....the ideals beaten into societies heads that says free market always equals good, socialism always equals bad, lack of education and perspecitve among the masses...

If these things were to crumble, America would be an interesting, if not chaotic, place.
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