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 airmech1993
Joined: 3/24/2006
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Love and Hate are highly-charged emotions, sometimes separated by a very wide, fuzzy grey line in the sand. But they are, in fact, opposites.
 flsoldier
Joined: 5/28/2006
Msg: 3
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 3:48:43 PM
I'm not sure I'd say it's entirely the opposite. I think it depends on the context in which someone is using the word, "love".

There are many ways to define it...it would stand to reason there are as many opposite definitions, other than "hate".

Colin
 itsmeinco
Joined: 5/18/2006
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what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 4:05:55 PM
^^^^^

I second "indifference."
 borhan9
Joined: 6/3/2006
Msg: 6
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 4:08:13 PM
I was going to also say hate but i think indiference is well said.
 *KD*
Joined: 7/18/2006
Msg: 7
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 4:08:53 PM
The feelings I have for my ex


Love is total emotion, so the opposite would be absolutely no emotion.
 roadspur
Joined: 5/17/2006
Msg: 8
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 4:14:07 PM
all in favor of the opposite of love is "indifference" say 'aye'

all opposed say 'nay'

the "ayes" have it, motion approved.
 Greeneyezz
Joined: 2/26/2006
Msg: 9
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 4:32:16 PM
^^^^ kdblue06 msg:7


Love is total emotion


Love is something that we "do & show" - it's expressed thru "action/s". It's not a "feeling based on emotion/s".
 airmech1993
Joined: 3/24/2006
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what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 4:33:05 PM
I can agree to that.

My original line of thinking was simply "what other highly-charged emotion is opposite of Love?". I never thought of "opposite of highly-charged emotion is lack of emotion" bit.
 DrewBond007
Joined: 6/27/2006
Msg: 11
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 4:38:50 PM
the opposite to love is indifference
 montanadharma
Joined: 7/15/2006
Msg: 13
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 5:03:11 PM
FEAR.

Shalom,
Robert
 sddude
Joined: 11/4/2004
Msg: 16
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 5:07:17 PM
opposite mybe being repulsed instead of loved is the opposite.
 montanadharma
Joined: 7/15/2006
Msg: 17
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 5:14:21 PM

No...if you're a functioning human being, fear is a PART of love


If you "love" someone you don't fear them do you? Fear inhibits love.

If you fear losing love then it's not love, it is attachment. Love does not desire to possess. If your love possesses then you've only taken someone hostage.

I guess in order for the original question to be answered we must have a definition of love.

To me if I love it is independent of what that person thinks of me. It is independent of what that person does to me. My love is a personal thing and seldom invoked but once it is then it does not die, nor does it fade.

The Greeks had different types and names of love, kind of like how the Eskimo have many names for snow. Perhaps there is someone here that knows of the many names but I know of at least 2. There is Eros - the kind of love that lovers have, and there is also Agape - the kind of love one has for their children. I hope I got that right. Anyway, fear is the one thing that will destroy love, its solvent as it were.

Shalom,
Robert
 singleguy64
Joined: 5/27/2006
Msg: 19
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 5:25:18 PM
Hate is the opposite because love is the want to make someone feel good and happy and hate is when you want someone to be unhappy and suffer.


Ah, but many times when you, for instance, say you hate your ex-GF because she cheated on you, the reality is that you hate *what she did*, because of how much it hurt you. And the fact that you hate her so much, is actually because you still have those strong love emotions entangled in there.

For instance, my ex-GF *hated* her father, never had a single good word to say about him our entire relationship. But underlying that, the pain of it for her was that when she desperately needed him, as his daughter, to love her, he wasn't there. The underlying cause of the hate was that she really wished that he had loved her as a child.

Hate is a very strong emotion, and many times its "underlaid" with the fact that the person is someone you used to love. After all, if you didn't feel love, how could you be betrayed to the point of hating someone?

The opposite of both of those is indifference. I don't hate you, I don't love you, I never felt anything for you at all, and it doesn't matter to me what you do. (ie, when you 'hate' someone and they do something to piss you off, you 'hate them more' - you're still emotionally *bonded* to that person. If you are totally detached/indifferent, you just look at them and say 'boy are they stupid' - and walk away, with no emotions involved).
 montanadharma
Joined: 7/15/2006
Msg: 22
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 5:37:48 PM

It's a scary situation that leaves one vulnerable


And what is it that is scary about being vulnerable? It is the fear of being hurt. When one is in a state of fear there is no room for love because fear is the over-riding emotion.

In what you state, you’re not thinking about love, your thinking about you. Loving isn't about you, it's about someone else. Not to say you can't love you, it should be a prerequisite to loving anybody else, but again, you limit your love by focusing on yourself and your fears of what MIGHT happen. It's a whole lot of projection and removes one from a state where one can love.

As stated in a previous post, apathy does not work out logically.

Shalom,
Robert
 EarthMother1
Joined: 7/2/2006
Msg: 24
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 5:47:00 PM
~~And what is it that is scary about being vulnerable? It is the fear of being hurt. When one is in a state of fear there is no room for love because fear is the over-riding emotion.

In what you state, you’re not thinking about love, your thinking about you. Loving isn't about you, it's about someone else. Not to say you can't love you, it should be a prerequisite to loving anybody else, but again, you limit your love by focusing on yourself and your fears of what MIGHT happen. It's a whole lot of projection and removes one from a state where one can love.

As stated in a previous post, apathy does not work out logically.~~

Vulnerability, if truely in that place is scary. The reason and definition of the word! To be vulnerable is to be in a place physically or emotionaly to be hurt and/or taken advantage of. Opening ourselfs and being vulnerable is scary if you've ever been hurt. The matter of love, is that you make a consious choice to allow yourself to BE vulnerable. Being in a state of fear is one thing. Locking yourself there is another. You are not allowing into the equasion of your logic the expression of free will and choice. You are tossing out black and white logic in a world full of shades of gray.
 *KD*
Joined: 7/18/2006
Msg: 25
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 5:49:17 PM

Love is something that we "do & show" - it's expressed thru "action/s". It's not a "feeling based on emotion/s".


You do have to show your love for them and you do have to do things. You also have to feel it, somewhere inside there has to be something that makes you do all those things and show all those things.

"Looking down at my young daughter in her crib, curled up with her blanket. Her eyes half open. She reaches her hand to me and with her soft voice says'I love you daddy'. I softly move her hair out of her eyes and kiss her on the forehead. 'I love you too sweetheart, sweetdreams."

Not sure how anyone else would take that, but man I felt it something fierce. I didnt have to do anything except love her back.

So that's where I get the impression that love is emotion in it's purest form cemented with actions and words but beginning with your heart.
 aj7676
Joined: 6/13/2006
Msg: 26
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 5:50:11 PM
ITS INDIFFERENCE.
 montanadharma
Joined: 7/15/2006
Msg: 27
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 6:41:28 PM
I guess this is basically off-topic though not really....

I just look at us here as the micro and take a step back and look at the macro.

The US is most definitely not coming from a loving place. How is it that we avoid coming from that place? By sending constant propaganda of fear to the populace. We must fear the terrorists, we must fear the enemies of democracy, etc etc. So what do we do? We bomb the crap out of everybody, close off our borders i.e.; lose our vulnerability. This leads to isolation and spiritual death.

So back to the micro, we do the same sorts of things in relationship. Sure it hurts like hell to have someone you love walk away from you but you don't die from it. What is it we're afraid of? To live is to feel.

Sorry C, didn't mean to tell you how you are because I have no idea. I didn't mean to presume. Again, apologies.....

Shalom,
Robert
 JoePAMN
Joined: 6/5/2006
Msg: 28
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 7:42:43 PM
All the folks who said indifference have my vote. Love is an active emotion; so is hate. Indifference, not so much. I don't know where she is, or what she's doing, or whether she's happy or sad, and I don't care that I don't know. That is certainly the opposite of love.
 montanadharma
Joined: 7/15/2006
Msg: 29
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 7:50:06 PM

I don't know where she is, or what she's doing, or whether she's happy or sad, and I don't care that I don't know. That is certainly the opposite of love


Again, we're trying to talk about the opposite of something so we must know what it means. I would bet that as a good brother you love all your sisters out there in the world, in other words plutonic love. Perhaps not, just another ideal I suppose but so is the ideal of eros.

But love as a general term, without getting into if you’re talking about your love for pizza, your love for your SO, your love for you mom, has an opposite. That is, something that stands in opposition to it. Thus my opinion of FEAR.

Shalom,
Robert
 MotleyGrrl
Joined: 7/8/2006
Msg: 30
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 7:51:57 PM
i'm with indifference.
 Greeneyezz
Joined: 2/26/2006
Msg: 31
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 7:52:51 PM
^^^^^ kdblue06 msg:25


Love is an action, an activity, a continually shown expression of willingness & giving. . .Genuine true love implies commitment, devotion and the exercise of "wisdom"... love is the will to extend oneself & sacrifice oneself for the purpose of nurturing one's own and another's spiritual growth...true love is an act of will that transcends short term feelings of "being in love and just the simple investments of mental, physical & emotional energy in another person..." the desire to love is not love itself nor a feeling... it is correct to say, 'Love is as love does'...

And again, most people will read that "Love is an action" and say "Hey, I've loved someone, I took her to New York”, “I bought her flowers”, “I gave birth to his children, I put food on the table, etc. etc..." This is not the type of action showing "true love..."

Love exists wherever and whenever we will it to exist... and this is where love as action comes into play... "the will to love IS the action…"

and just as Forrest Gump's Mom said: "Stupid is as stupid does"... therein lies the truth of the statement "Love is as love does"... Real & true love is a decision/choice, it is a continual effort... Real love is not something you feel, or that just happens or that is handed to you, it's not a "given" in all relationships or from another person - it takes serious effort... Love is not easy... it does not come easy and it does not remain without effort & willingness... It means devoting & extending ones spirituality to another - not just physically/materially, mentally & emotionally - yet also continuously...

Romance and love is percieved all too often as a feeling one gets from intimate/sexual encounters & in our Disney-inspired culture as Hallmark cards and Teleflora bouquets. But real authentic love is about a will to be there in all aspects for another - spiritually, mentally, emotionally, and physically and sometimes under enduring conditions – even if it is never asked of you...

We have all experienced that moment when you question a relationship... you've fallen in love, several months pass, you think you've found a soul-mate and then one day you wake up, roll over, look at the person, and wonder "WTF am I doing here?"... it is at that moment that the will to truly love comes into play… or it doesn’t and you discover that you don’t have real love for that person & at that moment - you make a choice... do you have the will to truly love and is it "true love or not?"

To truly love someone is a radical way of living in the world, of being part of this world. To love authentically stakes a claim on what matters most in this life, and it runs counter to much of what we experience day-to-day in a society obsessed with objects rather than objectives.

True love is, again: "love is as love does…" willingness to show true love, and to truly love someone = repeated pure/sound & shown/expressed actions time & time again, and it doesn't run away or quit when times get tough or there's bad within a relationship/marriage... Within "reason" anyway!

 mizbex
Joined: 7/14/2006
Msg: 34
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 9:20:33 PM
It is indeed. indifference.
 Bohemiandreams
Joined: 2/19/2006
Msg: 35
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 9:35:21 PM
I've found that the oposite of love is indifference. When you no longer care enough to hate someone, you know you don't love them anymore.
 *KD*
Joined: 7/18/2006
Msg: 36
what is the opposite to love?
Posted: 7/22/2006 9:38:07 PM
The opposite to love is indifference.




@greeneyezz msg 31

Very articulate. The reference to forrest gump was oddly out of place but perhaps has inner meaning in the context of the statement.

Unconditional Love, no rhyme nor reason. I want to love that person. It is a effort to show that love to another, to say it, to act upon the impulses and instincts that society has dictated for that definition.

Love is a word, it is so misused and abused. With that one word, a whole relationship is built. It is an action to speak that word and it is so often spoken without understanding.

I do not will to love my children, my actions are done out of the love i feel for them. Perhaps the love was born from an action but it is sustained from an emotion. To say that my love will no longer exist if I am unable to show that love, may be true in some cases but not with true love such as i have for my daughters.

If I were to never see them again.To never again hold them, or show any of the gifts that my love gives them, i would still love them. I will love them as long as I have emotion in my body. No will, action, effort or attempt makes that happen it is indeterminable and unexplainable but it is real.

I'll agree with you for love and that it is an action, whether conscious or sub-conscious. Unconditional love such as a parent to a child is an emotion and actions do not dictate the emotion. The emotion influences the actions. Hence to myself, Love in it's purest form is an emotion.

Edit: pure love is not just restricted to a parent child but is also evident with other forms up to and including two individuals.
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