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 corleo
Joined: 8/22/2006
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i have a rotteweiller/bull mastiff cross **** who i have had since she was 4 weeks old( she is now 5 yrs old), you couldnt ask for a more loyal and gentle natured dog.. but saying that i wouldnt leave any dog with a child that young, i have got friends who have jack russells and they are the most snappy dogs i have ever encountered.. at the end of the day its down to the parents and owners of the dog to have some common sense and not leave them alone together..as much as i trust my dog i wouldnt leave her alone with a child..cats can be just as dangerous as dogs i.e smothering... parents have a responsability to their kids..
 pantsonfire
Joined: 7/19/2006
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Posted: 9/25/2006 6:59:13 AM
Just heard on the news that the dogs owner(the babies grandparents) has been seriously injured and his partner killed in a separate attack..What the hell is going on ...??? Now that poor couple have not only lost a baby they have lost a parent maybe even both....
 Stacey999
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Posted: 9/25/2006 2:23:18 PM
i am said owner of two adorable rotties, Tinkerbell and Bosley (entry from surfsup). Firstly my thoughts go out to the parents of the child, devastated. I have a 9 year old around my two and to this day they have never and i mean never snarled or shown any aggression to man or beast. i spent hours and hours doing repetitive training to ensure that they know who is boss. Any dog can be vicious, fortunately mine or too stupid to be vicious. i will now have to spend the next 6 months unable to take them off the lead, even though they are the most sociable and love to play with other dogs. It truly does come down to the owners and in this case those who left their baby around dogs that only understand protection. At this moment Tinkerbell is upside down on the sofa with her head on a pillow, wow really scary. Bosley is watching television as normal, i have to restrict him to 2 hours a day.
 Stacey999
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Baby dies after Rottweiler attack
Posted: 9/25/2006 3:09:32 PM
you are talking out of your a***
 pantsonfire
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Posted: 9/28/2006 9:30:43 AM
Basically any dog is capable of attacking anyone and the only reason the Rottweilers are in the headlines is because the babies death was so horrific and therefor deemed newsworthy, that it has been leaped upon by the media who manoeuvre and manipulate us ignorant public into starting up lynch mobs.....
Dog's have been unlicensed for over 20 years because it was too difficult to police, and It's really up to every dog owner and every parent to ensure that children are kept safe from dogs..
I have two german shepherds who I adore but they NEVER have access to my children EVER and I only walk them late at night when young children are less likely to be around therefor minimising any risks... they are pets first and foremost with no aggressive training but they are big buggers and that should never be forgotten...
 earthmuvva
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Posted: 9/30/2006 2:01:52 AM
As a dedicated Rottie owner and devoted mother to two beatiful children Ive read this thread with interest.

Im not gonna sit there and judge the parents or the dogs........its not my place to do so. What happened is tragic, tragic, tragic, and it would be really easy to sit there and approportion blame just because I can but who am I to judge?

The only thing I can say is what I know from personal experience. Having had dogs all my life, I brought Coco into the family after a lot of research and soul searching. Sure these dogs have a protective nature, after all, they were originally bred to guard and their fearlessness is a characteristic of the breed. However, they also have a lot of other traits, including compassion, loyalty and an endless amount of love, as do all dogs.

As a single parent living in a metropolitan area where the crime rate is high and still rising, I wanted a dog that was loyal and, ultimately would be seen as a deterrant rather than a dog that would be trained as an attack dog. She is a part of my family and has been appropriately trained. She is superb with my children, indeed with all children as she has been thoroughly socailised with them from puppyhood.....I took her to my daughters nursery as a puppy and juvinile..........his had the added bonus of children, who may not have had exposure to dogs having the opportunity to have contact. This was very beneficial to all parties. She was also socialised with my network of friends. When new friends enter my life my dog is socialised with that person on a gradual basis. This places less stress on my dog and them (she is a big girl!!!)

However, no matter how loyal, loving etc my dog is I will never trust her 100% and caution my children to act appropriately around her. (ie: if she is lying down, leave her. Respect her bed and the surorunding area as hers and do not disturb her when she is in her area....after all, all dogs need somewhere that they can call their own, as do we all.)

It would appear that the dogs were not accustomed to the baby and that the parents were looking after the property and the dogs for the owners.

Basically what we need to remember is that all dogs, be they small or big, are sociable animals and live as packs naturally. As pack animals dogs will protect what they regard to be the pack in relation to their status within the pack if they feel the pack is threatened. The owners were away, people who dont usually live there had invaded their territory (from a doggie perspective). It is also important to remember that all dogs have the capability to turn just as any animal/human can (we only need to see the papers and news on a daily basis to see just how true this is)

I would like to think that I am a responsible owner AND a responsible parent just as Im sure that the parents of the baby are. Im not saying that Im perfect....far from it and Im sure that I have made one or two mistakes along the way,as have all new parents and dog owners. I am lucky in that any mistakes I may have made have not had such serious consequences.Its just a shame that, in this instance, the mistakes made have had extremely serious consequences.

Ultimately we were not there, so can only rely on the media to give us the exact details without sensationalising anything (and we all know thats not gonna happen). I just think that it sad that some people can take it upon themselves to vilify either the parents or the breed .

Im sorry if it feels as though I have gone on and on. Im sure that there are people out there who will want to pick this thread to pieces. Feel free. Im not on one side or the other, Im not going to vilify anyone. Im just trying to look at this objectively. If that offends anyone then I am sorry.

Love n light to you all Xx
 cuddlesno1_99
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Posted: 4/13/2008 9:57:56 AM
look all well and good everyone feeling sorry for the mother but was it not the mother who caused this
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1) not take her baby home to where she lived more consered about going clubbing
2) grandma thats where it happened she was busy getting her hair done grandad was fixing somones car
3) left in change was a 16 year old
4) the dog was kepted out side so how come the children had chance to get out to dog unsupervised that says to me
5) the mother or archy went cubbing arguing with grand mother cos she would not look after archy and she left in there not even giving him a kiss good by just like he was a inconveniance
6) just after archy died she was out clubbing the night she burid him as she was out laughing and joking i think it was 6 lassers gave her a good kicking for being so cold harted
it seems to me that this tragidy for losing a very small child and a lovley dog was subject to the people around them there owners in fact
grandmar and gandad had got the rottie when it was 4 years old i thik now to me that was wrong always best to bring them up for puppies with such a big dog u need a firm hand i have a rottie x and mine is just adorable he got trainded from a ealry age
the mother should have been more resposable so as far as iam concered it the mothers and grandma and grandas fault u cant blame the dog u cant belame archy you can only blame the people who were ment to be resposable
and how come police came out and shot the dog it took them three shorts marks men are more acrate then that the archy and the dog suffered at the hands of irrasposable people
give a thought to archy and the dog not the people who caused it
love bec
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