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Joined: 1/24/2006
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I am a huge vinyl cassette and cd buyer, but as i here it alot of even music junkies like me rely on downloading please tell me it ain't so! i mean the integrity of the music is so at stake, how do you get the collectors item? how do you get you favourite band to go platinum? do they start basing grammys on the number of downloads? do the even change the mvas to the itunes awards? please tell there are still the music enthusiasts out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joined: 4/17/2005
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Posted: 1/9/2007 3:49:28 AM
Hey, I believe I can answer this question for you. While I do like to download music onto my i-tunes player, plus I also have an i-pod, I still like to buy CD's from time to time because I don't wanna be one of the ones contributing to the death of the whole CD format. CD's are very important to our culture and I hope that people still appreciate them in the years to come.
Joined: 4/8/2006
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Posted: 1/9/2007 4:19:06 AM
"do they start basing grammys on the number of downloads?"
Don't be surprised down the road.

I still but a CD here and there but usually it is from second-hand stores.
Hit parade don't cut it for me.

Joined: 12/13/2006
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Posted: 1/9/2007 5:48:38 AM
Alaways buy cds.If i download something and like it, it eats way at me until i get a cd.The as soon as i get the cd, rip it onto my computer.Majority of my cds are mint.Oldest onesw probably about 6-7 yrs.(since i bought it, i mean)
Joined: 2/9/2005
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Posted: 1/9/2007 7:23:45 AM
Gawd! Never download and I only buy CDs when I can't find what I want on vinyl.

Digital does not contain ALL the sounds.

Some of you may know of the therapeutic effects of music. How, "It has the power to sooth the savage beast".

But it only works with Analog. Digital does not have the same effect. If you want to hear all of the music avoid the Digital and go with analog.
Joined: 10/13/2006
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Posted: 1/9/2007 2:22:03 PM
I still buy Lots of CDs. My collection is Xtremely diverse, although I do have a few favorite genres, & perhaps around 400 in count! Will Never stop, Im sure! Enjoy reading lyrics, too! & not on screen! Also have a couple cool vinyl collectors items being the original Lynyrd Skynyrd, Street Survivors with flames behind the band, only 6000 printed before plane crash & also Metallica, Master of Puppets picture disc! Rock on!
Joined: 8/4/2005
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Posted: 1/9/2007 5:07:13 PM
I'm still buying CD's and some LP's. For several reasons. One is I don't believe in depriving an artist of his or her ability to make a living off of their work. Free down loading does exactly that; when hamburgers, cars, houses and cable TV are free, I'll reconsider it. Two- I don't like the sound of compressed music. I'll put up with it in a car via an ipod or satellite radio because of the convenience factor, but when I am "listening" to music I want to hear all of it, not the ten percent that some compression algorythym thinks is important. Three- I want the opportunity to hear the songs in the order that the artist intended and not some crappy radio remix that was intended for the limitations of an ipod. Four- liner notes. I miss the art work and other information that went into making an album cover. There are some real works of visual art on some album covers.
Joined: 11/20/2006
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Posted: 1/9/2007 6:48:17 PM
I would say that I'm one of those last few people who still buys cds. I own a iPod Nano, but I only seem to use it for travelling purposes or if I'm out of the house instead of carrying around a heavy cd player that takes up too much space. I have a modest sized cd collection. I would say very close to 1000 now or maybe more. All original. Not ripped. It's nice to hear something that you're in the mood for if you have a large collection. I believe it's a different feeling when you actually walk into a store and pick up an album in your hands. I like having the little booklet inside etc. If there's an artist you truly love then I would say buy the album. Downloading is a double edged sword really. It can either hurt or really give exposure to a band/artist.
Joined: 7/27/2005
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Posted: 1/9/2007 8:01:58 PM
If vinyl was still the trend I'd still be buying it as well. I love the scratches you get over time. And the sound was much better.

Same with DVDs. The image is really crappy in those gradient areas. Analog will always be the way to go. But unfortunately money is what makes the world go round.

But, yest I still buy CDs. I may get an iPod eventually, but I doubt I'll get my songs from iTunes. I love listening to the band's whole album.
Joined: 10/15/2006
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Posted: 1/9/2007 9:05:22 PM
I would consider myself a CD buyer as I have a very large collection of them. I try to find a lot of rare ones that you can't get anymore or have been deleted from the computer system. On the other hand I also download music quite a bit onto CDs. The reason for this is that I like a lot of european metal and around here you cannot get the types of bands that I enjoy on CD. Either you can only get them in europe or special order them through HMV where you are paying through the ass for them. I try ebay quite a bit and sometimes find what I'm looking for because I am now boycotting HMV for their unbelivable prices. You can look at it this way, if someone likes a few songs that they downloaded from a band on the internet they are more liable to buy the CD for the music and the inserts that come with them then burning the whole CD off of the internet.
Joined: 6/13/2005
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Posted: 1/10/2007 6:50:10 AM
I have bought all 320+ of my CDs
I've got lots of 7" records and full length LPs
I uploaded all of my CDs to my comp so I could have a variety to choose for my ipod
that's a good point about awards being based on record sales
what about downloads that have the wrong band name down for the song? How will they base the Grammys off of that?
Joined: 2/9/2005
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Posted: 1/10/2007 7:00:27 AM
Ah but there are a few problems with downloads that I think many people forget.
First is, as Trevcda said:

the sound of compressed music.

Not All the Sounds are there.
But more so is, What is it that you own for your $$$? If your hard drive or iPod dies, where is Your Music now? If you did some backup and try to restore you'll find:

a message stating that the downloads I had purchased had four lives remaining

Meaning three more crashes and it is gone.
If you did No Backup at all, well, bye bye music.

At least with a CD I can hold it in my grabby little hands and know what I got for my $$$.

But now is the time to buy vinyl, while it is still cheap, the prices have been starting to climb and soon vinyl was be big $$$ as it gets harder to find.

But take heart there are a few producers who understand the quality of vinyl and are still putting them out.
 Cats pjamas
Joined: 6/26/2006
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Posted: 1/10/2007 10:00:41 AM
Yes. I still buy CDs. I then put them on my iTunes on my computer, and the CD will most likely end up in my car at some point. I don't download any music off the 'Net. I don't buy anything off the 'Net. And yes, I am a big music enthusiast !
Joined: 6/29/2006
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Posted: 1/10/2007 11:23:44 AM
I will buy cd's once in a blue moon. That's usually because I will download an album, and if there are enough tunes on it that I like, I will purchase it. Also, some hard to find stuff are no longer available for purchase. So what is a guy like me to do? Find it online, and then burn it to cd.
Joined: 10/23/2006
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Posted: 1/10/2007 12:55:50 PM
I buy cd's and I burn them as well, it really depends on the artist. I hate spending 20+ for a cd when I only like 3 of the songs on the album :P
Joined: 6/26/2006
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Posted: 1/10/2007 1:29:23 PM
ohhhhh theres so much crap out there in the music "industry" it just makes sense to download. im not going to go out and buy a cd ive never heard anything but the radio play tracks. i love music and i love the art. if a band or artist truly put talent and effort into thier music i will go buy the cd. but if theres one decent track on the album i tend to not even pay attention to that artist...if youre going to get rich every track better be have some effort in it. As for the integrity of the music i think it forces musicians to step it up a these days is so fake and plastic. Not to mention true fans want the album art. it may not be the most popular music but bands like tool that take the time to produce amazing packages get my money more then the half assed pop get rich quick albums out there.
Joined: 7/10/2006
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Posted: 1/10/2007 9:11:54 PM
I still buy CD's big time. 2500 and counting! I don't even own an Ipod. If I make Mixed Music I still use Cassettes.
I love the feeling of ripping open the cellephane to a new CD,mmmm That new CD Smell.
It's all about the packaging .
Joined: 12/22/2006
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Posted: 1/11/2007 1:42:42 AM
I always buy cds, so I can move from upstairs to car to cabin to truck and I also agree with the statement that the sound is not as good as vinyl and am considering going back, I wish I had never given them all away, I have over six hundred cds, and hate trying to find something fast, I have a player that reads and displays it hold 200 cds but I just hate changing them all out, trying to recall what is where... and putting them all back. When I move the next place will have a turntable and vinyl, cds are good for the car.
downloads seem to cut part off, skip or just not sound as good. I like my music loud and awesome. Since turning to cds, I just dont play as much... that is going to change
once someone puts out some decent music. I still listen to dark side of the moon, once in a while...
Joined: 12/20/2006
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Posted: 1/11/2007 7:36:53 AM
I still buy. I don't like downloading music.

I bought CD number 600 just recently. A group called "Magic Numbers", a Mama's and Papa's type bad. Great album.
Joined: 10/3/2006
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Posted: 1/11/2007 10:24:24 AM
I still buy CD's. I've never burned or downloaded a song in my life. Call me old-fashioned, I guess.
 Paulchino II
Joined: 8/16/2005
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Posted: 1/11/2007 10:28:08 AM
To me...there's only one good reason to download music...

...if it's rare and hard to find...
...oh and if the band records their live shows and sells them online ie Pearl Jam, C2B3

...I mean...modern production and CD's have killed sound quality as it you're getting compressed files from unknown sources...all the music I snagged off napster has been replaced with the actual albums....

...if the artist is creative enough...the whole and packaging is worth buying...
...gotta get extra shelf space...
 Mtn Leo
Joined: 1/2/2007
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Posted: 1/11/2007 10:34:38 AM
wildgreenwitch wrote:

its all about the art work rather than the packaging for me

I'm with you and others on this one. Security tape is annoying. I am a tactile individual, so it is a small pleasure to go through a unique presentation, and read up on who was involved with the project. One of my favorite past discoveries: Radiohead's Amnesiac - There is a small, art booklet sandwiched between the CD compartment and the case. Ironically I had been checking this area with some favorite artists for unknown print material for awhile, and was pleased to discover Thom Yorke thought of this.

Other CDs worth noting:

Tool: 10,000 Days - Awesome in its presentation and musical expression.
Beck: The Information - A DIY CD Jacket with stickers! Why hasn't this been thought of before?

I have to admit there is a downside for CDs. Dust. Jewel cases not only take up excessive space, but they collect dust, so I usually remove all the contents, and put the cases aside or give them away. I keep my favorite CDs and jackets in portable cases. 10,000 Days and the like are small works of art, which go on the bookself.

Joined: 7/20/2005
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Posted: 1/11/2007 12:31:28 PM
Yup I still buy CD's... I raely actually download tracks.. I think I have three downloaded tracks and somewhere around 400 cd's...

I have downloaded the odd song to see if I liked the sound... if I didn't like it, it get's erased, if I liked it, I buy the CD

...Not All the Sounds are there...

that really depends on how it was recorded. if it was recorded for cd format, then any "extra" sound you get on an LP is because you probably didn't clean all the dust off your record or needle :)

The CD really is theoretically the replacement for the LP...
Artists used to have alot of fun with their recod jackets -> this was lost for people who bought 8-tracks or cassettes (because they didn't get the full packaging).

Since most North American groups have released their albums as (in concept) a CD, any newer release on LP has been somewhat of an afterthought.
The only artist from the last decade that I can think of who has attempted to release their album as an LP (because they wanted it as an LP versus a CD) was Nine Inch Nails... I believe that 'the fragile' and 'things falling apart' were intended to be an LP release, and as a result the LP was a differnt mix and/or arrangement... for me to find a chain store that has new LP's in stock, is a complete oddity.

The Shoulder:
I will buy ... blue moon

yup, it's a misquote.. but it reminded me of a great label... that unfortunatly I can't find locally anymore. :(

On a related note, my pet peeve is some of the "anti-piracy" software on new CD's these days... some of them don't let me copy the music to my own computer... I mean I paid for the music, why can't I enjoy it??
The record lables really have always looked for a scape-gaot for "illegal music" - right now it's downloads via some online source...
If I notice that an older album that I want to buy is only available with the anti-piracy software, I'll wait till I can find it in a used CD shop (eg; olderversion w/o the software embedded) - so in the end, the record label is loosing my business by installing that software.
Joined: 2/9/2005
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Posted: 1/12/2007 7:03:50 AM
Ah Not True there JonathanUnruh. Digital music is a series of Nana second sized chucks of sound. We are not conscientiously aware of these tiny gaps. But unconscientionsly we are. Analog is a steady stream of sounds.
That is what I mean by all the sound. Not the dust on my needle.
How about a source with some authority:

(Neil) Young has steadfastly refused to release some of his earlier albums on CD - "I'd rather burn the tapes," he says, lest the warm "clarity of analog be blurred by the averaging nature of digital............

..........Preserving his legacy is a priority, yet Young finds the mechanics frustrating and unsatisfying. The problem, he says, rests in the music industry's self-destructive decision to switch from vinyl platters to compact discs.

Young dismisses music's creative and commercial slumps as mere byproducts of vinyl's extinction. He insists labels sold out quality 20 years ago and short-changed fans by pushing an inferior delivery system, the CD, into the marketplace.

"The videos that came along at the same time distracted us from the fact that music was literally losing its depth," Young argues. "A CD is a reconstruction of the sound. It's not even a clone. It's more like a toy or a robot, just a string of ones and zeros, whereas analog recording is a true reflection, like a pool or a mirror. Imagine telling Picasso, 'That's a nice painting; now we're going to fax it to the public.' There's no doubt in my mind that this is why the industry is failing."

There are also Medical Studies done on the therapeutic effects of Music, Digital does not have the same effect as Analog.
Joined: 7/10/2006
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Posted: 1/12/2007 9:12:57 AM
I love Vinyl, but it's so BIG! You can't listen to it in your Car, you can't listen to it at work. If my CD collection was converted into Vinyl it'd fill my house
CD's are so easy to handle, At the touch of a button you can instantly start on any song you want (without having to count Grooves). They need a CD/Vinyl Hybrid. Hopefully one day they'll be able to recreate an Synthetic Analog signal on digital equipment.
One Canadian Artist called C'mon Released their 1st Album on Vinyl a few years ago. Every album came with a "free" cd of the album. I definately can notice a Much Bigger sound on Vinyl. But I still listen to the CD more just because of the convienience factor.
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