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 howtosurvivechaos.com
Joined: 6/4/2006
Msg: 1
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.Page 1 of 17    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17)
My ex just came for a week of sex and put it to me bluntly:
No shaved pubes, no sex. I opted for the later and she split two days later. She had so many rules and demands that I am relieved that she's gone. What a ****ing headache! She expected me to jump at her every whim and rarely said "please." Nothing was ever enough. We originally broke up when I refused to get rid of my dog... She doesn't like dogs... I figured that if I were to give in...there would be another demand...and another... Little deaths until my self-esteem was totally destroyed. After taking all this crap I didn't want to **** her anyway!
How come american women have become so rude/shallow/controlling/manipulative? Have american men become so emasculated by the women that we haven't noticed, or even questioned it? As a result, women in this country have become a real pain in the ass! They have become an "energy deficit." (It takes more enery than they're worth!) They wonder why we import women from other countries...
To me, guys who shave their pubes are not very masculine. If this means that I won't get as much sex so be it. If women are this demanding let them go find someone they can boss around. That won't be me!
That's the great thing about being a single man. We don't have to take a lot of shit! And, yes, I still have my dog! And, my self-esteem!
I keep reading threads on shaving where no one has objected to shaving pubes. Am I the only man here that has the strength to say NO?
And, plentyoffish: remove this thread and I will quit participating. This is your site but I am expressing my FREE SPEECH. Censor me and I won't return.
 New-to-City
Joined: 5/17/2007
Msg: 2
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/2/2007 12:52:14 PM
I agree with alot of what you said, you should not have to change for someone to want to be with you, if they are not there because of who you are now then why be there at all.. Somethings will change change is a good thing.. but you do it because you want to, like stop smoking, cuz you know its healthier anyway, and your partner might just want to kiss you alot more.. and thats a really good thing...
As far as shaved pubic hair, well I do not think it has anything to do with masculinity. That is more a state of mind and the way you carry yourself.. I have tried shaved.. because a women I as with, because she thought it was a turn on, and personally I like to try and satisfy
her desires, and it was actually better as far a sensation , puts a whole new light on things.. lol..
 howtosurvivechaos.com
Joined: 6/4/2006
Msg: 3
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/2/2007 1:05:08 PM
Thanks for your support. Maybe I am off-center challenging the masculinity of guys who shave their pubes. It's just that I have never had this issue before this demanding woman put it to me. It's never come up in conversations with my male friends. Since this has happened I have asked male friendsn about shaving and they have cringed at the thought of a razor in such close proximity to their man-parts. And, the stubble. Anyway, since this woman split life has become much simpler. Besides, I get all the sex I want (with my self) and can fall asleep immediately afterward! God, I love being single!
 DAVE632
Joined: 6/17/2006
Msg: 4
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The FEMINIZATION OF THE PLANET
Posted: 6/2/2007 1:14:29 PM
OH Dude, Didn't you KNOW? Men are told they're stupid in school, encouraged to smoke dope and drink coffee (out of styrene cups) BOTH of which produce huge spikes in ESTROGEN production. We make but a dribble of the TESTOSTERONE we used to produce in "the good old days." In another 25 years the average male will be shooting blanks totally. Women will run the world through a series of committees and self-help groups. Guns will be banned and most meals will consist of some form of Tofu - another good source of estrogen. Male pubic hair will be removed genetically before birth. Women will be fined if they even have their pits!!!

If the "men" of today were the ones colonizing North America back in the 15th/16th centuries it would be all us honkies on sh!tty little reserves (but we WOULD own all the Casinos) way off in the sticks today. Our women wouldn't have allowed us to encroach on their land and we would have had to take classes in Culture Appreciation and Sensitization. The internal combustion engine NEVER would have been invented because it didn't smell pretty and was loud. That's the good news. The bad news is the whole of North America would be so over-run in Bison and Moose and Cougars, etc etc that you wouldn't have been able to drive more than 50ft without smashing into one. Another reason cars just never would have happened. No body could read or write because no one would be allowed to cut down any trees (too pretty and they feeeel) so no papers to bring bad news or be used by politicians to rile the pop up and go to war over whatever we have gone to war over in the past - well pretty much anything. Nope. Would never have happened. Women are perfect and would never have allowed any of our present problems to develop. NONE!!

The other bad news is that without engines and factories the next ICE AGE woulda hit about 1850 and we'd all be sitting either on or under 15,000 feet of glaciation.

Then you have the Muslims. If women get too uppity in those countries (like revealing their faces, looking out a window or being able to read - baaad stuff like that) they are taken out, stoned, beheaded and otherwise discouraged from, in any way shape or form, joining the human race.

I may be on drugs here but I think the human race could maybe one day settle for some kind of middle of the road compromise. Probably too much to hope for but just a thought.







 New-to-City
Joined: 5/17/2007
Msg: 5
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/2/2007 1:18:34 PM
LOL dude.. thats funny...
and yes it really comes down to personal preference, some like it some don't, each to there own I say..
 no_1_bby
Joined: 5/3/2006
Msg: 6
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I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/2/2007 1:23:05 PM
My preference is for a shaved scrotum and well trimmed everywhere else. I will ask, might even offer to do it for you, but would never make it a demand or ultimatum. Just know that with out all the extra fur, I'm more apt to spend way more time in that zone with my tongue then if it's au natural.

Oh.. and I always say please.

And OP.. at your age I wouldn't expect you to be up for trying something new.
 howtosurvivechaos.com
Joined: 6/4/2006
Msg: 7
The FEMINIZATION OF THE PLANET
Posted: 6/2/2007 1:28:55 PM
I guess that men are becoming obsolete. I remember way back .. when I lived in Kona. The two local guys who ran the pound never killed an animal that wasn't either sick, or dying. They found homes for all of them. The inHumane Society took over... All women... only one male employee. They made it so difficult to adopt a pet (a fenced yard was required) that they killed more animals than they adopted out. The sole male employee's job was to kill approx 50 dogs/cats a week by placing them in a "gas chamber" hooked to the exhaust of a truck.
Maybe there is a reason that Muslem countries oppress women so badly.
Maybe they don't want this happening to them....
 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 8
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/2/2007 1:31:28 PM
~OP~ I agree on the "I won't change" blah blah stuff, but the simple reality is: she wasn't asking you to donate a kidney. If you found her request de-masculating, maybe you should evaluate that ~ most professional body builders, swimmers, runners, and a few construction workers I know personally ~ prefer it the other way. Meaning, no one on the outside of your pants would know the difference, except YOU. Hey to each their own, I'm sure you held firm to your belief, and her leaving says she did to. Sounds like it worked out just fine.

~OT~ Sorry guys, for me, it's shaved or it's not happening. I have no interest in the whole chia-pet thing.
 howtosurvivechaos.com
Joined: 6/4/2006
Msg: 9
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/2/2007 1:55:40 PM
I am not saying that I won't change. I change continually, we all do. The ancient saying is: "you can't step in the same river twice." I have changed since I posted this thread. But, I would to be able to exert some control over this change, not have this change manipulated.
Maybe, if I had loved her, and her communication skills were better, I would have trimmed up. But the demands had reached critical mass and got to the point that I didn't care if we had sex again. Her credibility as a human being was lacking. I just lost interest. Many men have taken so much shit that they just don't care anymore. The "dysfunction" is the emasculation of the american male. Women can't brow-beat, or continually criticize, us and expect us to get it up on demand. We are men.
Besides, the stubble would bug good ol' Johny, my loveable chia pet. And..he might get a little chilly down there... And, I wouldn't even consider shaving my head (unless I was really drunk!).
Me, I could care less if a woman shaves her bush, armpits or legs. And have always thought that this expectation of women was grossly unfair and sexist.
 giggleparts
Joined: 10/23/2004
Msg: 10
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/2/2007 2:26:20 PM
Well, at least you proved that not all men are all about the heat seeking missile.

In reality, and consequently in most relationships, the woman sets the pace (in general this seems to be the case). They have most of the control whether we realize it or not(and there are some guys who try and fool themselves). This is proven time-and-time again. But, you stood up for yourself and actually showed that a man can become so disgusted with a woman's behaviors and attitudes (even one he finds sexually appealing, or they are a sure thing) that he gets turned off.

Bravo.

I am not the kind of person to be an advocate of the 'us vs. them' gender thing... I would much rather we could all get along and be honest and real with one another. It seems like people are too much into playing 'tag you're it' games with their relationships; whether they be romantic, family, or friends...

Some people might think this guy is just stubborn and crotchety... I doubt it, but I don't know him. It just sounds like he got fed up, because she let him down.

the giggleparts - I would shave more... but, when introducing sharp objects to that area... I start to shake and sweat a little too much.
 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 11
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/2/2007 3:04:02 PM
^^^^OMFG ~ Tiny, you kill me. That has to be the funniest thing I've read allllll day, maybe ever. I've often thought about that dog thing....but I would have NEVER posted it in public. ROTFLMAO

~OP~ Seriously, I have to agree with your subsequent post about communication. Obviously, I was being glib/sarcastic ~ because truth be told, it's not a matter of shaving ~ it's a matter of what works for both parties. She was demanding, you weren't budging ... maybe that's why we are ex-this or that.

Nevertheless, I have to agree with the ^^^ above (not about the dog thing...still LMAO ) but about the sensitivity factor. I'm a novice at this stage in life, by choice, but I have many men friends who don't do it for a women, they shave their little buddies for their own personal sensitivity factor. To each their own ~ it's what some like, some don't, and some require. Personal preference, much like everything else in life.
 Pronide
Joined: 4/7/2007
Msg: 12
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/2/2007 3:09:18 PM
[qoute]How come american women have become so rude/shallow/controlling/manipulative?[/qoute].....Of course another American women blah blah blah thread ,just because the women you allow in your life happen to be ones that are demanding ,energy deficit or whatever does'nt mean we're all from the same mold....personally reading this thread it sound's to me like maybe women's independance and change from year's of past bother's you.

By all mean's go get yourself an imported women ...hopefully she wont take you to the cleaner's and back once she picks up us American women's way's
 gizmosellschickens
Joined: 5/20/2007
Msg: 14
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I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/2/2007 3:15:20 PM
Its a waste of the bic razor, and women make those demands I be like, Remember were human and need hair to protect us from the elements.,
 New-to-City
Joined: 5/17/2007
Msg: 15
The FEMINIZATION OF THE PLANET
Posted: 6/2/2007 3:52:12 PM
LOL thats funny to.. Damn thats some reality you got going on there, damn I hope I am not part of that one.. lol...
 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 16
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/2/2007 4:51:10 PM

I knew right then that I was in trouble and that there was a lot I didn't now. OPie, I feel fer ya. Really, I do. I don't now about the whys or wherefores of her right to ask you to do that or your right to refuse. But I feel your pain.


LOL

^^^^Truthfully, I was shocked and wasn't quite certain what to do either. Then I did the unthinkable, the stripe...OK, small gesture, but HUGE for me. Then I slipped one day and ut oh, it had to go. Unfortunately, I had a dr. appt. that week. I went in acting like I had just jay-walked or hit and ran. I spent 15 minutes explaining to my long time physician (a woman no less) that I had tried the "stripe" slipped, etc. She was rolling. They've obviously seen it all. I was embarrassed for my dr. to see it bare....how silly. She did tell me something of value though ~ it's healthier. And to this day, I have to agree. And, being that I do nothing 1/2 way, I'm now a fiend. Arms, legs, underarms, coochie, you name it, other than my head, it's soooooooooo out of here.

In the past 7 years, I've only dated one man that was privy to the info that wanted hair ~ so sorry, my friend ~ never again. If it becomes "fashionable" again ~ I'll be the goober still spending days on hair removal. LOL
 Leeanne
Joined: 10/14/2005
Msg: 17
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I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/2/2007 8:13:30 PM
I like my man to look like a grown up - so um yeah no pubes is not something I like to see - but certainly trim and be neat!
I don't think it makes me want to kill dogs though!
 whothehellknows
Joined: 7/23/2006
Msg: 18
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/2/2007 8:39:48 PM
I would not shave for anyone.

Now closely trimmed, that is not problem at all.
 Ziggyo
Joined: 5/27/2007
Msg: 19
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/2/2007 10:01:27 PM
I keep it neat and trimmed..#1 guard on the clippers gets it just right..plus its a turn o for some women
 Rythmn
Joined: 1/21/2006
Msg: 20
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I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/3/2007 12:46:24 AM
this appears to be an age/cultural preference. until i became aware of it via my kids, i thought if you were shaved you were being prepped for surgery. in my day, the other option was that you were trying to look like a child for those who were not attracted to adults. but yes, i get it now that it is becoming the new fashion. i guess i never came accross someone who did not wash and smelled that badly to truly appreciate the benefits. but i would think that even shaved, that would be a problem.

i'll ask my manfriend to poll his men's group. i once asked a bunch of male friends after an al anon meeting and that kept everyone rolling for a couple of hours. the vote was split about 50-50. maybe this should be an added pof feature to aid in everyone's selection. you might even be able to conduct a search on it!

ps not clear about why you are having sex with an ex (poem) and don't think it's all that nice to generalize that your experience has to do with all women (therefore take away their civil rights), let alone not even consider that women may have the same concerns as you with respect to those resultant bumps.
 Avalon96
Joined: 9/1/2006
Msg: 21
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I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/3/2007 3:58:55 AM
I think that the shaving was just the straw that broke the camel's back,
or maybe the last straw. One of things we don't have to do is change.
If it's manipulation, or the just the lastest of a long list of demands,
it's difficult to be charming.
Long Live the Pubes.
 New-to-City
Joined: 5/17/2007
Msg: 22
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/3/2007 5:26:52 AM
Yes I have been told that by a former girlfriend also its healthier and cleaner.. but thankfully she didn't shave it all.. I'm sorry call me old fashion then I quess, but a little something down there is nice, when there is nothing well I think I might feel like I was sleeping with a 12yr old.. thats just a nasty thought.. lol...
 acgoat
Joined: 8/8/2005
Msg: 23
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/3/2007 6:58:31 AM
OP

Sounds like you and the [EX] had lots of issues.
Your choice not to shave,good for you.

I do shave/trim mostly because of being uncut and when the hair grows it can catch/trap that hair which can cause great discomfort to me when the random daytime erection happens.
 howtosurvivechaos.com
Joined: 6/4/2006
Msg: 24
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/3/2007 7:08:01 PM
WOW! Lot's of replies. I thank you.
I was a little harsh on the american woman stuff... It's just that the spoiled **** conplex has become an epidemic. I know that there are real human beings out there who don't base relationships on income/status/car/harley... ummmm. I am just talking myself out of here...
What the real issue is that we all want to be loved/accepted for who we are. That real inner being, the soul eternal. Conditional relationships are destined to fail. They have to be unconditional and we need patience for them to work.
Now, had she gone about this differently: Bought me an inexpensive clipper and wrapped it nicely with a little note "asking" me to trim up...with a sugar coated "please"... How could I have refused?
But when she refers to herself as a "princess" and makes demands. She's lucky that I remained calm/sane and refused to participate in an argument
 Marina3515
Joined: 2/22/2007
Msg: 25
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/3/2007 8:18:18 PM
I can see your point, but sometimes it's best to grant a small request and ask for a bigger one in return. Pick and choose your battles.
 hapeenurse
Joined: 5/5/2006
Msg: 26
I am a man and I refuse to shave my pubic hair.
Posted: 6/3/2007 10:35:23 PM
OP, the pubes are the least of your problems.

I'd be more concerned about the ex visiting for sex dealie but that's just *me*.

now back to the topic, everyone has their preferences, but they are just that, preferences. I cannot imagine giving an ultimatum to a guy like that! insane!
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