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 welshfuchsia
Joined: 12/20/2007
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For anybody concerned....do you think there should be laws against game players that trick you into sexual encounters and dress things up in deceit ...i personally have put up this subject on forums because i have many females net friends who more and more have been a victims of this sort of misleading un-savory behavior! and would like to hear peoples opinions on the subject????? do you truely think the act or practice of deceiving, concealment or deliberate distortion of truth for the purpose of someones sexual gain is duplicity that the law should protect??? and maybe should be seen as second class rape?? because lets face it tricking somebody into bed with lies and conning them with the promise of long lasting love and maybe more!! is kind of wrong! ,isnt casual sex meant to be a both party consented thing on both sides! shouldnt both parties make it clear to each other that it is just......(SEX) and nothing more... to spare ones inner dignity!! tricking sex out of people is so doggish in my opinion and very low life! whats your views?????????
 Luv Karla
Joined: 9/29/2007
Msg: 2
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:00:51 AM
I don't see how anyone gets tricked into having a sexual encounter.

No one is forcing you to do something you don't want to do.

If sex with virtual strangers poses a temptation for you,then stay at home.
 welshfuchsia
Joined: 12/20/2007
Msg: 3
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:05:31 AM
you missing my point karla and totally overlooking what im on about! what if a guy strings a woman along for months on the belief he loves her and she falls in love with him also and feels ok and ready to have a sexual encounter with him...but all along shes just a sexual conquest to him and nothing more! then dumps her when he,s had what he wanted!? i have many female friends who have been soul destroyed by this,, they wasnt forced into sex...the vital point is they were (TRICKED)
 97FLSTC
Joined: 12/26/2007
Msg: 4
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:07:14 AM
That would open a whole new can of worms, wouldn't it?
I agree to a certain extent though.
A law to that effect would also have to cover, unscrupulous sales people and politcians,
since they are out to s***w us too.
PS - as far as I'm concerned conning is just a breath away from coercing.
 venusfreak
Joined: 7/30/2007
Msg: 5
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:10:02 AM
Hate to say it, but you've just made yourself look extremely foolish. Are you kidding me?!!?? As far as I know, we are all able to say the simple words yes and no, we are all able to leave, get in our cars drive away, call a cab, walk to the bus station. This is where I really do have to take the other side because oops my clothes fell off and my legs accidentally spread has got to the most pathetic and stupid thing I've ever heard! I'm sure we've all made mistakes and have regrets but trying to blame it on someone else is absolutely retarded. I'm not sure if your friends are vulnerable, stupid or both. Rape is rape, and bad judgment is just that
 welshfuchsia
Joined: 12/20/2007
Msg: 6
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:10:55 AM
p.s.... as far as im concerned karla you,ve just justified the bad behavior of all game players! after all how do you know your trustee is a game player until you try them out...un-forcefully of course! im not on about anybody forcing i
anybody into bed! i opened this debate for those who trick people into bed with deliberate lies and false promises!!!! its completely different!
 packagedealx3
Joined: 2/4/2006
Msg: 7
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Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:11:28 AM
There are two problems with that, you are getting into essentially the legislation of people's personal lives which no one wants and also, who decides intent, whether an individual was intentionally leading someone on or if he merely thought he was ready for a relationship and then discovered he wasn't? Many people are bitter and react just as badly in the case of the latter as they do those that intentionally fool them when they have no intention of getting into a relationship but want someone to have sex with and talk to.

This is a risk we all take, or we choose to remain alone. You need to learn to look out for signs that someone is not who he claims to be without becoming totally jaded and distrustful.
 welshfuchsia
Joined: 12/20/2007
Msg: 8
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:17:42 AM
venusfreak!!... your doing the same as karla and missing the vital point here! im not on about forceful sexual encounters! read up what coercing means! there are people out there that emotionally intimidate people into bed on a deliberate promise of much more...and its wrong! example for you if a car sales man told you ..you can buy a car from him for 10 grand but really meant 20 grand after agreements have been signed n sealed would you feel conned....i rest my case! people should go around playing with other human beings dignity and emotions its terrible!
 poppabear
Joined: 10/7/2005
Msg: 9
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:20:57 AM
How in the world do you get "tricked" into that?? Imagine if word gets out!! I think it might be more useful to have laws against stupidity. (But then who'd be left to run the jails?) Getting "tricked" into sex is no different than getting "tricked" into going to see a new movie. If you feel you were misled by the promos, you get up and go home before it's over. If you're dumb enough to sit thru the whole thing, who else is there to blame?
 welshfuchsia
Joined: 12/20/2007
Msg: 10
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:23:12 AM
poppabear no hunnie fortunately for me it hasnt happened to me! iam emotionally mature enough to know a faker when i see one! but i do know many women that have been victims of being tricked with sweet talk!
 venusfreak
Joined: 7/30/2007
Msg: 11
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Posted: 1/4/2008 7:31:24 AM
I think you are missing the point.... do you think that because you dated for a few weeks or months that you should be tied to the person for life? good grief woman... if you have a problem with trickery, then save it till your married. Just because they leave you after getting what they want means just that, they got it and want a new challenge, or they have changed their mind and don't think you are right for them to date... geez .. is this the first time you've ever heard that men are dogs ? Women can do the same thing ... ! Again you are looking completely foolish. We are all adults .. and if we arent we shouldn't be haveing sex at all.
 Just_Jay79
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 12
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:34:46 AM
This is without a doubt the most absurd legal movement I've ever heard of! <img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0>

Aside from the obviously-dangerous precipice of involving the State in personal affairs, you are trying to establish a precedent that would open the gateway to legal repercussions on ANYONE that hurts another person's FEELINGs.

We're all adults here, and sadly some of us wear our hearts on our sleeves and are more easily read than others. There is NO WAY for you to PROVE intent to deceive unless your so-called "player" has left a video tape or dated-journal of his Machiavellian schemes to toy with your gal-pals' hearts, along with a step-by-step plan of attack and full legal confession...

The very premise you're suggesting is ABSURD, ludicrous, naive, pathetic and plain sad, for lack of other disparaging adjectives which fail to come to mind at the moment.

Pray tell: did your conned, hapless damsels actually ENJOY the sex when it occurred? If so, it sounds like you're proposing second-degree rape is applicable to any situation where a woman gets dumped after the fact, regardless of whether she enjoyed his company DURING the "relationship"...

How terribly convenient this hindsight-driven "law" would be for the female species...(**turns on sarcasm megaphone**) I can't POSSIBLY see it being abused to their advantage...
 HeartoGold50f
Joined: 11/28/2007
Msg: 13
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Posted: 1/4/2008 7:36:44 AM
I agree with this man totally~!
 HeartoGold50f
Joined: 11/28/2007
Msg: 14
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:39:16 AM
NOT THE MAN above me but AGREE with 97FLS!!!
 musubi02
Joined: 12/25/2007
Msg: 15
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Posted: 1/4/2008 7:41:30 AM
tricking someone into sex, that would be a interesting trick. More like you got convinced to say yes, and yes through lies and deceit. But you are the one who ultimately said yes. Granted that kind of behaviour is pretty low, but also remember women use the same tactics to get what they want from men as well. As for considering this rape. A con artist or player that says all the right things to get you into bed...it is still consentual, the only difference he hasn't been truthful in his motives.
 Lord Essex
Joined: 7/14/2006
Msg: 16
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:42:24 AM
Yes there should be a law.
There used to be a law about those who promised marriage and didn't come through.
Those who promise or pretend love/feelings/emotion - or at least a semblance of it - in order to score sexually, should be punished for it. Somehow they should be punished, because they are NOT human. They are predatory animals.
 Discofied
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 17
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Posted: 1/4/2008 7:42:40 AM
Here's a novel idea: People should take responsibility for their own choices and actions.
Maybe you need to find smarter friends. Just a thought.
 secret_scott
Joined: 12/17/2004
Msg: 18
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:42:52 AM
welshfuchsia....no disrespect but, try cutting back on the hair bleach...it's affecting your brain I believe...
 Gwendolyn2010
Joined: 1/22/2006
Msg: 19
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:43:18 AM

what if a guy strings a woman along for months on the belief he loves her and she falls in love with him also and feels ok and ready to have a sexual encounter with him


Oh puhlease!

Let's crowd courts with more frivolous lawsuits. Let's allow unstable women (and men, mustn't be sexist) to file lawsuits against men/women to get revenge.

If a woman, or man, allows her/himself to be strung along for months, that says as much about the stringee as the stringer. And what woman holds out "months" before having sex? If she can wait that long, she should insist on marriage.

That's it! NO SEX UNTIL THE RING IS ON THE FINGER. Then, she can get emotionally reimbursed when she sticks it to him in the divorce.

Ya know, people used to be able to sue over broken engagements and "alienation of affection." Let's bring that back!
 HeartoGold50f
Joined: 11/28/2007
Msg: 20
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Posted: 1/4/2008 7:43:21 AM
IN MY OPINION and OTHER QUALITY females opinions....VENUS is a FREAK...and not the type of MAN who cares about women...he just says MEN ARE DOGS and get used to it! Shall women or children or a few men get used to ABUSE too, just because it happens??

You're somethin' else and love having that tough boy image...but you won't meet quality women who are into males who are emotionally, verbally abusive...makes me wonder about your childhood and where your father was?!
 welshfuchsia
Joined: 12/20/2007
Msg: 21
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:44:22 AM
No tigerwoods i think both men and women who are tricked should be protected not just women! thats defamation of my character...to assume im sexist! but all you know it all,s.... seem to be mind readers and fortune tellers when it comes to the dating game eh!
 Stove Top
Joined: 12/9/2007
Msg: 22
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Posted: 1/4/2008 7:44:25 AM

conning them with the promise of long lasting love and maybe more!!

Anybody who "promises" long lasting love should never be believed. You cannot see the future, so why would you believe someone who "promises" anything that he/she cannot control.
Things change, people change, one day at a time is all anyone can promise.

I understand the premise of your opening post ~ that being misled is a b!tch but one has to learn by themselves who is sincere and who isn't. If we all learned to listen and take heed the minute our intuition tells us that words and actions are not adding up, then that is when woman/man will stop feeling that they have been taken advantage of.

I bet if you asked your friends who have felt they were deceived that after it was all over ~ all the signs were there that things quite were'nt adding up but they chose to ignore them because they wanted that particular relationship so much.

Granted, there are many in the pond that the garnering of a sex partner is their only goal.... That is when your radar needs to be fine tuned if that is not one's goal also.

One must remember as well, that not all relationships that end after first having sex are because one or the other party was just out to get laid. They end because the two were not compatible in that way. I think many posters who claim this, are just trying to heal broken egos by blaming.
 welshfuchsia
Joined: 12/20/2007
Msg: 23
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Posted: 1/4/2008 7:49:55 AM
secret scott... grow up this is debate! and a place for open opinions and views!!! not some place back in the days of the school playground where we all use personal insult and name calling...christ sakes! how stereotypical to judge me by my hair colour lol, grow the hell up! lol.
 edward1224
Joined: 10/29/2005
Msg: 24
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:54:48 AM
I think this is (Beep!)ing stupid! There are laws that protect against rape, but what you're talking about isn't rape. So, basically what you're saying is that if a guy (or woman since they do it too) lies and says that he's single when he's actually married or is rich when he's actually poor, etc. and the woman falls for it then he should be tried for rape. Ironically, you're also talking about mutual consent as well. No matter what a guy or woman says or claims, it's still up to the other person if they want to engage in sexual activity with that person. Maybe women or men should put more time and energy into deciding rather to have sex with someone first.

Ed
 FescheLola
Joined: 10/15/2007
Msg: 25
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Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:58:35 AM
Oh please.

Usually when its all over and you THINK clearly, you can see how and why you were played.

Consent is consent.Psst....you don't HAVE to have sex with anyone. If you took part in it you wanted it... Learn from it.
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