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 IndigoPanda
Joined: 8/27/2007
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On the Today show, Hillary Clinton said about Barack Obama. He may be an inspirational speaker, but he has not done the SPADEWORK necessary to become President. [/unquote]

Spadework??? I could see grunt work, but who talks like that? Is that a code word, that politicians like Bill Clinton use to call a spade a spade? Enlighten me.
 Internetdatingpariah
Joined: 10/17/2004
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Posted: 1/10/2008 8:46:32 AM
It's not an uncommon phrase and should not be turned into something it is not.
 IndigoPanda
Joined: 8/27/2007
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Posted: 1/10/2008 8:52:04 AM
Close your eyes and imagine if Bush or Cheney had used that word. Imagine the outrage and public lynch mobs hanging them in effige. What if Huckabee or Mitt had used "Spadework" in the same sentence as Obama. What if Sen Byrd had used that word? What if Trent Lott had used it?

What if Chris Rock had used the word? What if Michael Steele, former republican candidate for Maryland's governer had used it? What if Clarence Thomas had used that word?

Can you say double standard?
 badge3939
Joined: 8/10/2007
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Posted: 1/10/2008 9:16:18 AM
I actually have never heard the word spadework. Until this thread. Now I looked it up.

Thank you Clinton for giving me a new word.
 Internetdatingpariah
Joined: 10/17/2004
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Posted: 1/10/2008 9:23:23 AM
If you read some of mfrotyl's other posts you'd see where he was coming from.
Dumb thread and needs to be deleted!
 renaissanceme
Joined: 5/19/2007
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Posted: 1/10/2008 9:28:14 AM
all this racist bull really gets me. the most racist part of our society is the ones that complain about it the most (and you can figure out that race) ...oh, i know,,,i'm such a bad person for bringing that out..
 IndigoPanda
Joined: 8/27/2007
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Posted: 1/10/2008 9:28:58 AM
Al Sharpton has made a career out of it, so has the Rev Jesse Jackson. Are you preventing me from being like my heros?

Trent Lott and who was that other senator who wished someone a happy birthday got downsized for their innocent words. Remember words mean stuff. If Hillary and other politicians can not handle the heat, maybe they should get out of the kitchen. Says FDR, noted democrat and former President.
 badge3939
Joined: 8/10/2007
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Posted: 1/10/2008 10:00:41 AM
What really gets me is that all other people running for President are using their last name. What make Clinton so special that she is using her first name.
Is she going to be called President Hillary or President Clinton?
 MrWine
Joined: 1/1/2007
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Posted: 1/10/2008 10:18:02 AM
spadework is perfectly good English. I use it frequently in a business context

I guess people will next object to Hilary using words like blackmail, blackout, black market, dark age, dark horse .... or have black pudding with a black-and-tan for her lunch

 spitfire6844
Joined: 6/30/2007
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Posted: 1/10/2008 8:48:00 PM
Hillary Clinton is not a particularly gifted speaker. She uses odd language occasionally in her speeches and interviews. As far as this particular term "spadework"--it's odd, but there's no indication that it was meant to be racist or pejorative. I definitely don't think Hillary Clinton is cut out to be President (especially after her little crying session the other day), but there's nothing to indicate she's using language intended to be racist or that she's sending subliminal cues.

Judge her on her competence or lack thereof. Don't look for ticky-tack shit like an isolated term in a speech.
 TEXASBANDIT
Joined: 7/21/2007
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Posted: 1/10/2008 8:55:52 PM
If you actualy think a presidencial canidate would make even a veiled racisit remark, especialy Hillery, I can now see how Bush got voted in, get real here.

A spade is a card suit (now that does not fit), it's also a small shovel (now that sounds better). You vote in a two term president who could not talk his way out of a wet paper bag and you want to argue the semantics of using a very week analogy, at best Hillery is just not up on quaint Texas sayings like he's lower than a snake in a wagon wheel rut.

can we stop this thread for just plain dumb.
......"can we stop this thread for just plain dumb"..... if it can be dumb, I'm sure that it can be done, also comming from a black spade, oops.... I mean a hard working black spade worker, oops...... what I'm trying to say is that I agree 100% that this thread is dumb, and it's like a virus it's that dumb, and may be a little contagious.......... OK , I'll try this one more time before I lose all my brain cells, from staring at this thread, here goes , What I was trying to say is comming from a black mans perception I don't see where I fit in this picture, with SPADEWORK, being and defined as 1 : work done with a spade
2 : the hard plain preliminary drudgery in an undertaking, ........and I might add that with a name as well as a CB handle being Texas Bandit, I'm from Texas , and Ive never heard this type of BLACK SPADEWORK.......ooops , I mean Irony
 Janeysuz
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Posted: 1/10/2008 9:03:15 PM
look up Obama's main confidante and preacher at his Church: Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who preaches black unity via white antipathy
 TEXASBANDIT
Joined: 7/21/2007
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Posted: 1/10/2008 9:19:19 PM
I think Hilary meant he has not dug deep enough to be the next leader. Many critics will play the race card given its enormous popularity . Perhaps she should have said groundwork.

If the ****ing and complaining about this and many other statements continues to grow you have to ask ,What really matters here?

Politics is too important to be left to the politicians anyways. I suppose that is why the people should get involved.
Thanks Mr. xob I couldn't have put it more eloquently, but the fact of the matter is, that not only people of different ethnicity or targets of racially motivated acts, Hilary seems to have a few fans of her own. Glad that this issue was nipped in the bud and the cloud of smoke never got to thick where we all couldn't see the truth ....Good job people, lets not delete this topic, but instead use it as a wake up call, and my hat stays on to the creator of this foolish thread
 DemonLeather
Joined: 8/10/2007
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Posted: 1/10/2008 9:27:31 PM
Wolves-Lower said: "That is really the Kettle calling the Pot Black now isn't it?


I KNEW it!,.. That kettle is RACIST!! I think we should get the NAACP in on this, to start picketting and organize a boycott of anything the kettle is involved in cooking! Then, we'll bring in the ACLU to represent a class action suit for every pot in the country, and demand reparations for EVERY pot in the US! Then we'll have everyone who uses the "B" word tried for hate crimes against "pots of color". THAT should show those honkey White Cracker kettles!! Power To the POTS!
 TEXASBANDIT
Joined: 7/21/2007
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Posted: 1/10/2008 9:34:23 PM
Mr.OLT4U messge 45 thank you for just describing this thread
"Niggardly" (noun: "niggard") is an adjective meaning "stingy" or "miserly", related to the Norwegian verb nigle. It is cognate with "niggling", meaning "petty" or "unimportant", as in "the niggling details"...........These words especially describe it best "niggling", meaning "petty" or "unimportant", as in "the niggling details, thanks for clearing that up, and I guess some people have to catch up in the evolutionary cycle or maybe they just didnt relize they were being left behind ........ God help'em
 texerotic2
Joined: 12/9/2006
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Posted: 1/10/2008 9:40:04 PM
Hillary Clinton is a cold, heartless, manipulative, ruthless, Socialist...who is finding this primary process a battle, as opposed to the Grand Imperial Coronation of herself that she expected. But she is NOT a "racist." In fact, no politician in office these days is racist. People only toss that term around, because people do not even know what the definition of "racist" or "race" is.

And the term "black" does not denote "race." Most terms that are used today, to denote "race," are simply the hijacking of terms by politicians, and redefined for the purposes of strengthening and solidifying their power base.
 TEXASBANDIT
Joined: 7/21/2007
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Posted: 1/11/2008 12:29:15 AM
This is a reply to message 48 Mr.Demon who addressed mr. lower-wolf
............Wolves-Lower said: "That is really the Kettle calling the Pot Black now isn't it?.........Mr Demon Replied.....I KNEW it!,.. That kettle is RACIST!! I think we should get the NAACP in on this, to start picketting and organize a boycott of anything the kettle is involved in cooking! Then, we'll bring in the ACLU to represent a class action suit for every pot in the country, and demand reparations for EVERY pot in the US! Then we'll have everyone who uses the "B" word tried for hate crimes against "pots of color". THAT should show those honkey White Cracker kettles!! Power To the POTS!............................................And my efforts were unsuccesful but something good did result from it.....Texas Bandt................You know what Demon, that was a pretty good Idea, so I took you up on it, but instead of getting the NAACP in on this or start picketing or organize a boycott, or even bringing in the ACLU to represent a class action suit, instead I called the C.I.A direct connect/ speed dial and they told me that they were already aware of this Kettle and many others Kettles just like'em, but assured me that this type of Kettle poses no threat and was an antique, probably used back in the gold rushed days and hadn't change a bit, and that it's thought pattern was water lodged, and didn't work properly any more, and they also told me that under surveillance this particular Kettle if ignored would more than likely bore his own self and go back to sleep but if not ignored it would go days without sleep, and so I guess I'll let the old Kettle get some rest, and most likely the guy on the phone told me that in the morning that old Kettle wouldn't even remember this post he started, but unfortunately shows a pattern of waking up in the morning fishing and ranting on, even if some one doesn't sit him in front of a computer, rants that kinda sounds like "niggling", which I was informed by OLT4U message # 45 meaning "petty" or "unimportant", as in "the niggling details" which describes the kettles character in full details, and oh yea I mentioned to the guy on the other end of the phone about a boycott like you suggested, but the guy replied and said boycott against what, the kettle didn't even have a job that it didn't work any more and was out dated, and when I asked about a a class action suit like you suggested Demon, then he told me that he wasn't suppose to, but sense I seemed like a nice fellow, that he would go ahead and share some information with me, and the bottom line is, that it would probably cost more money to take the kettle to court being that the kettle was already broke, and the kettle didn't have anything worth taking, and so when I asked, well what should I do, he told me to pray for kettle and the pot of color, and so I said OK, and he thank me for my concern and he also said he would send me three bumper stickers, but sense I only have 2 cars and one boat, demon I guess I'll send one to hell ........ oops sorry I'm still a little brain dead from my first post, what I meant to say is Hell I guess I 'll send you one DEMON and I hope you don't mind me calling you by your first name.......Good night
 Rythmn
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Posted: 1/11/2008 12:53:59 AM
ok. my family is multi-"racial" and i am eastern european descent. never heard the term "spadework" before. is it a farming term meaning plow the soil or do hard labor? i "think" there is a phrase "black as spades" or something referring to playing cards and skin color both being "black"--but really i cannot take that conceptual leap myself to even know where this saying came from . so is this why you are saying this was racist? from that expression? is it used in a bigoted sense? i don't even remember where i heard it from, maybe a movie.

please clue me in on the racist implication, the term itself and how it is used in various scenarios. although i am voting for obama, i rather doubt that hillary who is backed by many african american organizations, will deliberately say something racist.

enlighten me please....
 TEXASBANDIT
Joined: 7/21/2007
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Posted: 1/11/2008 1:43:06 AM

Actually****tr..opps I mean cocytus He has a great point!! People are allowed to be RACIST because its OUR right to NOT like somone. Cant u ***holes get it? Its called FREEDOM look up that word because in your world you you would not allow freedom of speech at all. How can you make someone like someone they hate? How dare you and other people turn the word Racist or anti semite in to the modern day witch hunt. You are the people with a problem just digging as deep as possible to label somone when everyone of you live in glass houses. If any polotician is Racist its Obummer, His church is "Committed to Africa" .... lol stupid loser.
is polotician an exotic bird or a name brand shirt, oh I'm sorry you meant politician never mind
 Javan2
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Posted: 1/11/2008 5:33:46 AM
Alot of these guys are the same ones that raise heck about communism, yet they are ok with racism. It's true that one would have to have the ability to think to see the natural contraditions in this, but since they can't see it, all that's left is to smile on the inside. I guess being the generous guy that I am I'll give it a go......

If you're racist for religious reasons, you'd better not look in your bible to find Numbers 12. There you'll find that Moses (who looks like Charlton Heston) married a blackwoman and god himself wanted to destroy Moses' own sister for speaking out against that interracial marriage. So, go check God's position on racism there. Kick in the teeth one. Also, I've always found it interesting how some people in this country speak about the evils of communism (because they say that it's a collectivist ideology),
have no problem embracing racism (which is a tribalist collectivist ideology); So, what they do is they " Say collectivism is wrong on the one hand, while they embrace it with the other". And they seem to think that noone notices them doing it. This is funny as hell to me.
 TEXASBANDIT
Joined: 7/21/2007
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Posted: 1/11/2008 8:00:20 AM
Who is a racist? To the world now? Yea, I'm probably a racist. Am I? Not at all. Do I make jokes about other races? Damn right I do. Why? Because it's friggin funny! Most people today have lost their spine. Most people are some kind of "victim" now. Thats all you hear now days.

Oh my pee pee hurts...Whaaaah! I got called the 'n' word...Whaaaah! I got harrased...Whaaaah! I got ocdaddefg or even gfeddadco disease... whaaaaah! The man holds me back...Whaaaah! It's reverse racism...Whaaaaah! It's the Jews control the banks...Whaaaaah! Mexicans are taking over...whaaaaah! Oh shit! The Jews control Hollywood too...Whaaaah! Why people say Asians can't drive, me drive cheverray...whaaaah! I can't get a cab...Whaaaah! Why do men look at my tits...Whaaaaah! Muslims, Christians, and Jews..OH MY!....Whaaaah! Hey just because I'm wearing a really poofy vest with wires running into my pocket and my passport says I'm from Gizbackinstien does not make me a terrorist...Whaaaaah! It's somebody elses fault!!! WHAAAAH!

Oh, good grief. The reason that any person ever gets offended in todays world is only because the offended person puts hate into the words being spoken. Yes, I realize that hateful things come out of other peoples mouths. But if it doesn't offend you , it cannot be racist.


Actions happen all the time that many people try to solidify into reality. That only happens if you allow it to happen. If your feel your not welcome then go away. Believe me, it happens to all of us on a regular basis and not because of race. Everybody out there discriminates, that is a fact. But that in no way means that people are a "racist". Prejudiced? Hell yea! Everybody has prejudices against other people regardless of race. Racist? No.

YOU are the only person who gives power to the words YOU define as racist or sexist or demeaning or against your religion. When words cannot control you, you have peace.

Meanwhile, the japchapaisianese are taking over all the good buffets and nobody even says a word about them. But damn, I love that cantonese chow fun kitty.

Me? I'm not a racist. I don't have that much time to hate everybody.
Good call seaspot , I'll have to give you some points for being honest genuine and having some strong convictions and not to mention being true to your self and every body else on this thread,but what I have also noticed is that most people loose the ability to be genuine when they lie to there selves and that when addressing an issue like this one some people will adress the issue directly but at the same time indirectly offend others, but if you've been expose to this type of wittiness or nature of certain type of people which is quite out dated, that you relize it's a game to be played, and just like any other game if played enough you master it by the same rules it's played, and racist comes from being ignorant and not having the ability or not wanting to understand so with that being said CKECK MATE TO THE KETTLE
 TEXASBANDIT
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Posted: 1/11/2008 8:36:04 AM


Considering the person who posted this is one of your fellow "PC people are evil" complainers. You might want to take a second look at the argument. This is just a republican hack job, the OP essentially copies and pastes from Republican attack sites
Glad to see that we're not all sheep being lead to the slaughter, thanks for that insight FITMAN, I knew something was fishy about this one, most common people have learned to put there petty different to the side and deal with one another in a humane way, but it's those cowardly unseen powers who hide there faces, and promote separation who or the real enemy, wether it be aimed at a black man or a white woman who just happens to be a lady Senator and a Democrat, and the only spade being played here is the race card in which provokes thought to why if it didn't offend me being a black man or any one else of ethnicity why should this malicious attack or virus be allowed to be spread by a Caucasian in which I'm willing to bet that he doesn't even have many close friends that or black to base his premises, but just like in the game of poker YOU GOTTA NO WHEN TO HOLD AND NO WHEN TO FOLD ......I vote we delete this Republican conspiracy and send the republican conspirators a message, because I don't think they can accept the fact they lost, this game is over. and the Republican cry out us
 Steve_Sandy
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Posted: 1/11/2008 8:44:10 AM
looks like the OP sees racism where it not exists, or are we at the stage that not allowed to uses words that might however small have a reference to dark people that we can't use them for the possibility of causing offence ?
 spitfire6844
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Posted: 1/11/2008 9:40:03 AM
I'd be willing to bet that many of the posters here (the OP included) don't even know where Hillary or any of the other candidates stand on the Iraq War, immigration, taxes, or any other issue. Too many people gravitate to whatever "hot button" topic is being pressed at the moment, and there are few folks who can (or want to) debate and discuss the issues in depth.

The ones who react to this trollish nonsense are as bad as the idiots who push the buttons in the first place.
 h0ldfast
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Posted: 1/11/2008 10:17:42 AM
Hillary Clinton is just reminding the Democratic Party that if they pick Barack Obama to run for president, some voters might be influenced by considerations of race. She's too politically astute to come out and say it, so she slides in this little codeword. Of course she will deny any hidden message.

She'll do anything for power. When Bill was running, she feminized herself, handed out cookie recipes, ditched her old glasses and took his last name. In this campaign, she's crying on camera to win the women's vote and playing the race card. The Republicans better come up with someone decent to run against her, or America is in for the most calculating, cynical, ruthless president it's ever had.
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