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 Outdoor2
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Canada won't completely withdraw in '09....we just want some help in the south with combat missions. Considering it's a "NATO led mission", it's high time other members ponied up.
The Liberals want all combat missions to end in '09 and focus more on re-construction.

The Conservatives?...I guess we'll have to see the details of the motion...

The fact that Harper would use our military in such a way speaks volumes....

He's a right little weasel that one is.

(raises hand)...I second that motion!
 Outdoor2
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Posted: 2/7/2008 11:45:38 PM
Harper is clearly desperate for an election.

Today he put forth a confidence motion on the senates length of time to pass the crime bill. What a joke.

Also today, it's been revealed that the gov was given clear warnings regarding the isotope shortage on Nov. 22, not Dec. 3 as they claim....through media reports, to boot! Total BS.

They claim they were "kept in the dark" about the halting of detainee transfers because of abuses....(which pissed the military off royally)....as if they weren't told....more BS

If the government were to lose, it could plunge the country into an election.

For some reason(s) they are clearly attempting to engineer their own defeat.

He is going to be eaten alive when the next election does happen.

Harper knows that the longer his gov survives the more likely it is that he will loose the next election.
 HalftimeDad
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Posted: 2/8/2008 8:18:01 AM
It looks like the Tories want to go to the electorate on this issue, so the other parties will bring them down on the budget.

Harper figures he can win a majority if the Conservatives are the only party supporting a long involvement in Afghanistan as long as the other parties split the vote on the other side - they only need about 37% of the vote to win a majority if the Bloc, Liberals and New Democrats are all dividing up the other 63%. It's cynical, but that's what politics is about.
 martsie
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Posted: 2/8/2008 5:11:44 PM
I doubt Iggy is an effective leader, he would be polarizing, and i sometimes think he some "agent", like a Conservative in liberal clothes. Maybe he is a Russian spy deep undercover, you can't trust anyone(thing) anymore, not even your colleagues...
 Outdoor2
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Posted: 2/9/2008 9:14:38 AM

Liberal government who sent the Canadian military there without disclosing it to the public
??? (There was a "take note" debate in parliment)
Harper IS Bush Jr.

Most of the time, Canada is ruled by a party that Canadians are unashamed to call the Liberals. But now the new prime minister is Stephen Harper, leader of the Conservative Party. Dubya's gang has every reason to claim him as one of their own. Many of Harper's closest advisors adhere to the same Straussian philosophy that inspires the fevered manipulations of Karl Rove and company. Harper is against gay marriage, pro missile shield, is eager to scuttle Kyoto, and would have sent Canadian troops to Iraq. In fact, in 2003 when then Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien refused to join Bush's "coalition of the willing," Harper, then the opposition leader in Parliament, published a letter in the Wall Street Journal calling that a "serious mistake" and apologizing.

Here's just one sentence...

"Canada appears content to become a second-tier socialistic country, boasting ever more loudly about its economy and social services to mask its second-rate status."
http://www.tommydouglas.ca/news/2006/01/24/no-bush-please-were-canadian

Have you heard of Hill and Knowlton? It's a PR firm shared by both.

Here is a link to a long article showing how they share the same philosophy.
http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2005/11/29/HarperBush/

Their views on global warming, foreign aid, missile defence, and plans for corporate expansion into developing nations with trade pacts and massive deregulation are pretty much identical.
 Outdoor2
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Posted: 2/11/2008 5:43:52 PM
^^^Can you answer this.....
Why is it so blatantly obvious that Harper is attempting to engineer his own defeat?

BTW....the first N-C vote is tomorrow. Do you know what it is?
 Outdoor2
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Posted: 2/19/2008 12:18:57 PM
Harper is desperate for an election now in the hopes that he can get a majority because he knows full well the longer this parliment stays, the less likely a majority is achieveable.

Besides.....
<div class="quote">The US is poised to bid adieu to a failed and flawed president, and Canada is going to elect the northern version? I highly doubt it.
Harper knows this too, hence his desperation.

A desperate man attempting to engineer his own defeat is not what I would want controlling parliment.

He's well on the way to another minority.

Edit:
<<<I do not see the Liberals or Dion even having a chance.>>>

I agree.
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