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 Checkmate!
Joined: 8/31/2004
Msg: 2
Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child MolestorsPage 1 of 13    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13)
These monsters should be sodomized with the end of a broomstick. Then they should be buried alive with rats.
 Spirited_Wolf
Joined: 8/21/2004
Msg: 3
Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/19/2004 11:03:08 AM
If I was a mean person I say burn them...

But since I am not - take it away for which they stole.

Rapist who go to prison - very likely get out to do the same again.

Molestors do the same - or try not to - but still want to be near children.

Now they must be registered once they have been convicted - and some have been accused. But look at those who get accused and never go to trial.

There are medications for these people too - but look at where it gets them once they get off or do not take them - back to doing what they want.

So I say take it away - penis or whatever - just chop it off let them feel the pain - then send them to someone who has created a drug that takes away sexual urges forever.

nuff said
 Spirited_Wolf
Joined: 8/21/2004
Msg: 4
Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/19/2004 11:26:35 AM
it is known that molestors are raped in prison - but not a higher rate of rapist are raped in prison ... but life in prison - no they wont give that to them - but put some fire under the representatives in your area - yah never know...
 Spirited_Wolf
Joined: 8/21/2004
Msg: 5
Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/19/2004 12:03:52 PM
agree to a point ex - if you lobby you can get things done but first you have to pick a rep. that has this somewhere on their agenda - or better yet find an old rep. that use to have this as one of their priorities but changed his way of thinking ...

i know of many convictions because during none election year - but that was likely because they were looking for the off season vote for what was coming up in the next couple years...

mayors- and governors do it all the time ... in the US
 MasterBart
Joined: 6/20/2004
Msg: 6
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Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/19/2004 4:05:47 PM
an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure...

the #1 thing that people do immediately before commiting a sex crime is to watch porn. I believe that we are have increasingly larger numbers of sex crimes in this country, and that this overlaps with a plummeting of societal values about sexual activity. What I think we need is for this country to start having a more stable and responsible set of values.

I know that these crimes cannot be eliminated completely, but I'd rather see it prevented, than having the women and children raped, and (otherwise good?) people put through horrible punishment.

Solution? Outlaw all the "Adult Video" stores, outlaw internet porn sites, and do everything possible to drive this abomnible industry into the ground. No more strip clubs, no more nudie mags.

I say we should build a building with lots of plexiglass windows, and put the rapists and child molesters in there, in stocks and chains, naked, and flog/whip/cane them. And let everyone see (except the children).
 Ticketoride
Joined: 6/3/2004
Msg: 9
Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/20/2004 3:09:08 PM
Jail Time/Death Penalty, depending on the severity of the crime.
 brundle
Joined: 6/28/2004
Msg: 11
Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/9/2004 6:36:35 PM
Give them a choice- capital punishment or limb removal(all). Or we can put them in a room with the victims families for 10 minutes or so with the assumption that they can't purposely be killed. Give them blood transfusions so the next victims families can give it a go.
 mixtli
Joined: 9/1/2004
Msg: 13
Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/10/2004 5:15:13 AM
What these people have done could be worst than killing, so I don’t think any punishment to these **stards will be ever enough for the victim or victim’s family members. Instead of spending money to feed those worthless beings on jail, exterminate them immediately (same thing you do with rats and roaches) and spend that money on the victims.
 brundle
Joined: 6/28/2004
Msg: 14
Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/11/2004 12:00:44 AM
Cause it didn't work
 Ticketoride
Joined: 6/3/2004
Msg: 16
Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/11/2004 1:19:07 AM
Yup, so true, bluedeyedmr
Behind that is the intent to injure someone, and castration doesn't remedy that.
 jeliarra
Joined: 10/10/2004
Msg: 17
 Ticketoride
Joined: 6/3/2004
Msg: 18
What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/11/2004 2:06:11 AM
Although the Legal System is far from perfect, and I'm sure better changes could be made, it nevertheless empowers Juries to pass judgement.

Except for sentences being far too lax, I wouldn't change a thing of the existing Justice System.
 frogs66
Joined: 1/25/2002
Msg: 19
Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/13/2004 8:26:58 PM

the #1 thing that people do immediately before commiting a sex crime is to watch porn.


Your assertion is completely wrong. If you look into the Meese Commission on Pornographyt dconcerning porn which was during the Reagan years...remember this was the time of family values, Falwell had influence, and Tipper Gore began her quest to put ratings on our music. This was a 1960 page report that took aton of money and talented peoples time to come up with these final assumptions.


Two female members of the Commission, Judith Becker, director of the Sexual Behavior Clinic at the New York State Psychiatric Institute, and Ellen Levine, editor of Woman's Day, objected to "efforts to tease the current data into a causal link" between pornography and violence. Many social scientists believe that sexual attitudes are formed very early in life, and that pornography is "a symptom of deviant sexuality rather than a cause of it." According to Nicholas Groth, who worked with sex-offenders at the Connecticut Correctional Institution, such men get turned on looking at children's underwear ads in the Sears catalog (Stengel et al. 15).

Certain themes seem to be particularly harmful. Films which depict sexual violence in which the woman is shown to become aroused and eventually to enjoy it seem to result in the greatest affect on the attitudes of men who see them. Yet this research can be tricky to interpret. In none of the studies cited "has a measure of motivation such as 'likelihood to rape' ever changed as a result of exposure to pornography." Men who are already predisposed to violent attitudes toward women may be more sexually aroused by violent materials, "but there is no reason to think that exposure to violent pornography is the cause of these predispositions." The results of these studies indicate that exposure to violent pornography is not causing callous attitudes, but reinforcing preexisting ones (Donnerstein & Linz 57-59).

A point originally articulated by the women's movement and brought out by Murray Strauss, who was a witness in front of the Commission, is that "Rape is not so much a sexual act as it is a violent one. Rape is the use of sex to express aggression." Christie Hefner, president and chief operating officer of Playboy Enterprises, Inc., suggested that "If one examines countries that have serious problems of violence and abuse against women-such as South Africa, Iran, or the Soviet Union-you discover that these are countries that are not only politically repressive but sexually repressive" (27). Regarding images of bondage and rape in printed material, she pointed to Japan, where such images are much more prevalent than in this country, and yet the incidence of rape in Japan is one-sixteenth that in the United States. According to Hefner, the greatest public policy danger of the report is that "it misdirects sincere people's attention away from thinking about the real causes of violence and abuse" (29).

The Meese Commission's concentration on sexual materials, despite overwhelming evidence that violence is the main source of harm, has been compared to "a physician who examines a patient complaining of a cold and, during the course of a physical examination, discovers the patient is also suffering from cancer. The physician treats the patient only for his cold and justifies ignoring the cancer because the patient came in for treatment of a cold" (Scott 1159). Violence, as expressed in popular culture, especially the television programming to which young children are exposed, is the cancer in American society; and those who treat sexual materials as the scapegoat are ignoring the real malignancy.

Material above researched in a well respected report:
Politics and Pornography:
A Comparison of the Findings of the President's Commission and the Meese Commission and the Resulting Response
by David M. Edwards

So before you wag your finger at sex. Look at violence on Tv and Movies. Look at sexual education. And understand that pornography banished would most likely lead to a great increase in sexual crimes. I think a real positive that has come from the last 20 years of the evolving world of pornography is that violence is no longer used as a story line...like it was in the 70's. The involvement of Women in the business as directors and producers of pornography for couples and if you look at a magazine like Playboy...Playboy has been pro- womens -rights, against the subjectication of women as objects to be used. The magazine is actually a celebration of the female form as art and beauty. If anything look at the advisor column in Playboy....this advice for men column...has always been a proponent of treating women with respect and equality. Even in a way that the advisor has come across as a demanding school teacher answering men's faux paux's with a verbal lashing and then educating them the proper way.

So easy with your assertions...Pornography is free speech and is protected. And It only takes a handful of ignorant to erode our freedoms based on faulty basis of the causation of sexual crimes

on a lighter note this all reminds me of the premise in SouthPark: The Movie...which is Blame Canada!". Makes sense if you have seen the film.
 frogs66
Joined: 1/25/2002
Msg: 20
Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/13/2004 8:41:05 PM
And not that I need to justify my beliefs. i was a victim of a molester (stranger) when I was nine years old. Not only did he steal my ideal version of the world his act altered me in so many ways (fear of being hugged by parents to sexual repressiveness to sexual promiscuity, ). This guy wasn't watching porn before he got me...he was slowly circling schools and parks like a shark moving in for the kill. I forgave him finally when I realized that this is a sick part of him that he will never be able to hide from, And he has to live and die knowing he was/is a monster.
 Benny604
Joined: 10/6/2004
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Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/16/2004 5:07:44 AM
They should be shot, hung and stabbed. Not in that order of course
 Benny604
Joined: 10/6/2004
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Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/19/2004 3:52:58 AM
You know back in the History in British Columbia the death penalty was hanging. I think we should bring that back, it doesn't cost anything except a rope of course and fairly humane.
 ExplorerMedic
Joined: 10/17/2004
Msg: 23
What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/19/2004 9:09:14 PM
DEATH. Lots of sins deserve death. Good thing God is merciful first. That Rapist child molestor public school teacher in the N/W US would be dead-- of course that would have killed her unborn child too.
 bassplayer6
Joined: 10/19/2004
Msg: 24
Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/22/2004 1:38:45 PM
Hey, alura, would you cut off a woman's tits who f**k over her own son? Or maybe slice off her clit? It seems to me that the only peole who truly get to hear about - and deal with professionally - the atrocities commited by women on children are social workers and therapists (my former occupation). Hey, how about the woman who placed her 8 month old son into a pot of BOILING WATER cuz he wouldn't shut up? What punishment does she deserve? I got a million of 'em , folks!

There is a wealth of research out there - if you look - that will tell a sorry tale about the crimes commited by women towards children and youth. mutilations/infanticides/sexual predation/horrible emotional abuses... the list is huge!

An eye for an eye is emotionally satisfying, or so it seems, but...
 bassplayer6
Joined: 10/19/2004
Msg: 25
Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/22/2004 1:51:00 PM
Oh, one more thing... the research shows that woman have a tendency to abuse MALE children at a greater frequency rate than female kids... now whats up with that, eh?

I don't have answers to this sickness ... there are male AND female perps in on this planet and it makes me sick .. all I know is that find it difficult to live in a world where any one person can be considered disposable...
 bassplayer6
Joined: 10/19/2004
Msg: 26
Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/22/2004 1:59:42 PM
frogs66, you are an inspiration, my friend. (and, from one of your previous posts, apparently well educated, too).

Regards,

Dan
 Elephunk21
Joined: 7/20/2004
Msg: 27
Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/23/2004 4:27:53 PM
Governments should start practicing ancient Chinese torture methods, that was medi evil sh!t. Can u imagine coming out of like 3 yrs of constant torture. You wouldn't even want to look at a child or a woman. Death is too much of an easy way out.
 forthebeauty
Joined: 7/14/2004
Msg: 28
Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/23/2004 5:04:23 PM
The punishment that they get is nothing compared to what they have done. I dont believe that they could be reformed. I cant really say what I think realisticly they should get, but in my mind I think the chinese torture thing would work great, hang them by there tally whackers for a few years.

The victims/survivors not only go through the torture and pain of being molested or raped, but they have to live with the thoughts and scars of it for the rest of thier lives. While the devil that done it gets to go to prison, get an education while they r there, and free medical benefits, pretty much whatever they can find to do with thier time, right on hand for them. After they serve their time, they r free to go with nothing to worry about with it ever again. Sure they have to register, but how would u know if one lived right next door to u? How much trouble is it to mail in a letter to verify where u live?

My daughter was raped in March of 03, nobody paid for her visit to the hospital, or the therapists that she has to go see. No one gives her a free education.

He is in prison now, to serve 10 years. He gets credit for the time he served in jail, and only has to serve out 80% of his time. He plead down to 3 degree rape and sodomy, but not until the last minute. We were all in the court room ready to go to trial, when he decided that he would take a plea. So he will serve 7 years for something that he done on his own free will, and get out and carry on with his life as if nothing happened. My daughter will suffer for the rest of her life, because of something that she had no control over, and have the scars to prove it.

Why should they get to be in a different cell, so they dont get what they put out. So what if they get thier a** beat, and used liked they use thier victims? So what if they get killed? They made the choice to violate, why shouldnt they be violated?
 forthebeauty
Joined: 7/14/2004
Msg: 29
Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/25/2004 5:32:55 AM
Thanks for the thoughts joe. I agree. The state attorney asked my daughter and me if we would agree to it, but we didnt have to for him to accept it!!! So much for victims rights. My daughter agreed as long as he didnt get probated and not have to serve any of it. So that was the one and only condition!!!! He can be parolled early if they see fit. He is from panama and is suppose to be sent back over there after he serves his time but I am a little leary on that one happening. Sorry folks I think I need to vent about this stuff!!!! The hospital screwed up the evidence, and even though I seen it with my own eyes, the state attorney said because of the evidence and so many people calling wolf, that it would not be so easy to get the jury to convict. I always said I would killl some one if they ever did this to any of my kids(I wish daily that I would have or could have) but when I came in on it, all I could do was scream. Just goes to prove that u react differently in a time of crisis.

I am so sorry for ur friends loss. Did they get the guy? I would almost bet that it wasnt his first time.
 paddler
Joined: 9/29/2004
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What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/25/2004 12:35:00 PM
I've got a very simple answer
GENERAL POPULATION......believe me the problem will be solved within a few hours
 forthebeauty
Joined: 7/14/2004
Msg: 31
Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 10/26/2004 12:10:54 PM
Thank u for the concern and I to believe that what any of them get is a disgrace. My thoughts and prayers are with each and every one of u that has gone through any of this.
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