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 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 308 (view)
 
who pays
Posted: 2/12/2016 3:07:44 PM

Not literally perhaps.. But some guys are "dancing monkeys" for women..I.e. Always having the burden of having to "entertain" her, think of and do exciting things so Her Highness never ever has to suffer a moment of boredom..

Wouldn't that be the problem of the guy? If I'm not about to jump through hoops for a guy so he doesn't have to suffer a moment of boredom, why would a guy figure it's some kind of obligation for him to do so? If it seems to some men that "all" women are like that, they're obviously drawn to that kind of woman for other reasons and that comes along with the other aspects of her personality, whether that's old fashioned principals/expectations or a princess mentality. Look for women with less old fashioned principals or who aren't a princess. Simply don't keep doing the same thing with the same type of people and expect a different result.

As for the dancing metaphor, I'm thinking someone has to take the lead or it would be a virtual tug of war on the dance floor in a purely physical sense. In life's who pays aspect of things, there are obviously no set rules judging from the different answers you get from different people. If a guy feels less than manly if he doesn't pay, it's up to him to find a woman who likes to have him pay her way - if he doesn't, then he finds someone who's of a different mindset and the same goes for a woman. This "me man, you follow" attitude makes my eyelid twitch!
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 86 (view)
 
oohhh, my....Canada.....
Posted: 2/12/2016 10:58:45 AM

Obama has a secret program to buy them nice little lakeside Canadian cottages. We're hoping once there these inbreds will enjoy the scenery while cooking their crack (for Zero) and apply for Canadian citizenship.


They'll mistake each other for Sasquatch (and so will everyone else). The upside is they won't be able to run around all scared-like shooting at each other and everyone else because they'll have to leave their guns at home because your 2nd amendment is void in these here parts, eh.

vvv But what do you do about their odor?? Bathe them in tomato juice daily?
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 41 (view)
 
Is meeting your buddy more important than meeting your girlfriend's parents?
Posted: 2/12/2016 10:42:45 AM
You likely should have discussed with him first when he's open to meeting your parents instead of having them "schedule" a time two weeks in advance for him to just be there or he's a dud. Do they do that with everyone including their own friends?...just say you're invited on such and such a date and if the invitees have other plans they're a "dud"? I dunno, but I'm not in the habit of getting pissy if I have a date in mind for my kids to bring a new love interest over (and yes, four months is still new) and they say the individual has other plans on that date. I just say, "Give me some advance warning when you'd like to bring so and so over and we can see if it can be arranged - if not we'll get together at some point."

Yes, you're over-thinking this and your parents are most definitely over-reacting. Perhaps you've given him cause to think by this and other things that your parents would treat him like a bug under a microscope and he's backing off a bit because of it.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 32 (view)
 
Awwwww....Canada.....
Posted: 2/11/2016 2:59:12 PM

we give that to mules and goats when we want to kill them....

Let me guess, that's the reason there's a proliferation of gun ownership in the United Hates! To keep all those rabid mules and goats at bay!
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 22 (view)
 
Awwwww....Canada.....
Posted: 2/11/2016 12:50:23 PM

So is Sasquatch edible ?

You'd have to ask another Sasquatch...



Why do you pronounce Regina..."Ragyna" ?

Perhaps that's the way people from the Centre of the Universe (Toronto/Quebec) pronounce it - you need to explore more of the country than Quebec.



Is it still illegal for a Canadian to be rude to an American ?

I'll call you a sh!thead just to see if I get arrested.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 11 (view)
 
OOOOH....Canada.....
Posted: 2/11/2016 10:45:17 AM
There's no place for a Sasquatch to hide in Saskatchewan - it's too damned flat, so they all ran for cover in the mountains of B.C. It actually means "swift-flowing river".
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 27 (view)
 
What is 100% involved?
Posted: 2/11/2016 9:13:50 AM
I wouldn't use those phrases on anyone of 100% involved, 100% committed or all in. The furthest it's ever gone is an assurance that neither is seeing anyone else anymore some stage into the getting to know you stage. I like to "be" 100% in and expect the same though, when in a conversation with them or in their presence, i.e. don't be on the phone talking to them and constantly be distracted by something else going on around you, or be in their presence and have your nose stuck to an electronic device and continuously have to repeat something you just said in response to a "what was that?" I'm not a 24/7 relationship type of person and expect each of us to have our own interests but when we are together, that's when I expect the "all in" without it having to be stated.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 74 (view)
 
What will you compromise? Or trade off?
Posted: 2/4/2016 1:10:33 PM

But what do I know? I've committed many times...


...and yet they keep letting you out!...or is that back in?? Oh...you didn't say "been" committed...
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 19 (view)
 
My girl wont cum all the time...
Posted: 2/3/2016 3:35:05 PM
Funny how that works...my lawn mower won't start unless I prime it first either. If you don't take the time to learn how various things function in life, the blame is more to be placed on the operator instead of saying the equipment being used is defective. Educate yourself.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 10 (view)
 
sex and relationship issue
Posted: 1/27/2016 12:33:46 PM
Have to agree with you michelinman - given the logic that prompted your response, let's turn it around and say maybe the OP's partner had poor body self-image to begin with and his body has changed even more to add to his self-loathing and that's why the sex has dropped off even more. In that case, the OP is to be commended because, unlike these males who like to automatically shift blame on the female for the lack of sexual appetite on a males part, she's still interested in him despite his physical (made up) short comings.

Discuss it with him OP and go from there.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Ever Loan a Dating profile to a friend?
Posted: 1/27/2016 10:46:25 AM
It could be that someone she knows has stolen the pics and made a profile and is using it for nefarious purposes to hurt her somewhere down the line. There are so many possibilities... My question to you is: Why would you be so obsessed that you'd follow her not only here but track her to Facebook "for a few years", particularly when you see she's in a relationship? See?? - no telling why people do the things they do...
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 37 (view)
 
Rock and hard place, advice appreciated.
Posted: 1/25/2016 9:21:04 AM
Maybe you SHOULD stay over at her place on the weekends when the boy is supposed to be with the father, rather than the girlfriend coming to your place. He's not going to sneak over, break in and use her house as a hot box with his friends if the mother and you are there. If he needs to come home because his father is off doing his thing, he at least then would have a supervised home to come to. A lot of kids from broken homes start to run wild (even more so than two parent households) because no one seems to care - dad's busy in his own stupefied lifestyle and mom is busy being caught up in her romantic lifestyle.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 21 (view)
 
FBI Reportedly Ran Child-Porn Website
Posted: 1/22/2016 3:33:57 PM
Possession of cocaine is illegal - possession of child pornography is illegal. With cocaine, there are charges for simple possession and charges for constructive possession. The difference with child pornography is that the law doesn't generally find it on your person, in your luggage or in your vehicle or laying loosely about your home, but on computers. The only way to find it on computers is to first find the link to the persons accessing it. To my mind, there is no other way to hunt the abusers down unless you do a sting.

There's a difference between being curious about cocaine and having it in your possession and being curious about child pornography and snuff movies. All kinds of people are hurt as a by-product through the process of both trafficking and use of cocaine by varying degrees, however, in order to view child pornography, innocents are directly affected - there is no choice afforded them - there is no escape. They can't leave their caregivers like relatives and friends can distance themselves from cocaine users and traffickers.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 1126 (view)
 
Ted and Trumps not excellent adventure
Posted: 1/22/2016 11:43:41 AM
He comes from the school of W.C. Fields with the slimy used car salesman creedo (note I say slimy because there's nothing the matter with being an unslimy used car salesman) of “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.”
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 29 (view)
 
Diasppointing
Posted: 1/22/2016 10:37:44 AM

I seem to be getting attacked on here for the wrong reasons.. all I am saying is that maybe if I made my profile less straight laced and acted more like a whore then perhaps I would get replies... thanks for all your kind input..


Put a link to this thread in your profile and that should take care of it...
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 1123 (view)
 
Ted and Trumps not excellent adventure
Posted: 1/22/2016 9:53:43 AM

Sarah Palin blames Obama for her sons Domestic Violence. I wonder if she blames him for Bristol forgetting to use a condom….twice.


and also....HTF does blaming others for your own screw-ups, show leadership that America needs to be great again? What happened to the "buck stops with me"?


In combination with all the Trumpisms, this goes back to being disgusted by stupidity. The only "fear" involved is that something horrible must be in the water that has allowed there to be a following at all of Dumb and Dumber.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 23 (view)
 
Diasppointing
Posted: 1/22/2016 9:29:52 AM
Having self-confidence is a good thing, however, the degree to which one believes others will perceive them, just because of said self-confidence, doesn't necessarily equate to being perceived by others that way. Sometimes women will even go after men who are already in a relationship and have an affair with them, believing it must be because they are something greater than what they really are. In other words, you may not be as appealing as you have led yourself to believe.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 1095 (view)
 
TURN IT RED WITH TED!!!!!
Posted: 1/21/2016 12:18:44 PM

Palin certainly has many if you afraid.

Being disgusted by stupidity doesn't make you afraid...it just makes you disgusted.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 178 (view)
 
LADIES - A Question of Height...
Posted: 1/21/2016 12:00:20 PM

As in Nick Vujicic, he could have just been lucky to meet the woman he did meet.


We're all lucky to meet the people we wind up in relationships with, particularly good relationships - there is some form of action on our parts that creates that "luck". Nick Vujicic's money made by being a motivational speaker, his religious beliefs and facial good looks aside, he still wouldn't have found this relationship had he dwelt on being limbless, hung back in the shadows and used it as his excuse for not being lucky enough to meet that special someone. Luck very often has nothing to do with something falling from nowhere and presenting itself to you - you have to create your own luck. You don't win a lottery without buying a ticket and you don't get very many lasting relationships by sitting back not putting your best qualities out there that you do have, which very often have nothing to do with height or looks at all.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 159 (view)
 
LADIES - A Question of Height...
Posted: 1/20/2016 3:00:37 PM

Chameleonf: I knew that was going to be about Nick. I’ve been in no less than half dozen debates on this site in which that guy has been interjected. I’ll say the same things I said about him all the previous times: he’s considered extremely handsome by most women, he’s rich and famous (met his wife after he became such) and they’re both religious freaks, who operate on a different plane when it comes to disabilities and whatnot. If I had those 3 things going for me, we wouldn’t be having this discussion right now. (Not that I consider being a "religious freak" a positive attribute, but if I *was* a religious freak, there's no doubt I could find a somewhat attractive religious freak woman that would overlook my negative physical characteristics, because that's just the way religious freaks are. As should be obvious by now, I'm extremely anti-religious.)


Oh, I see. You still haven't got the message that Nick is attempting to get across to people like you, even though it's been brought up at least 1/2 a dozen times to you and you've had ample time to get that it has nothing to do with your physical attributes but with your personality. You don't see a glass half empty or half full - you prefer to see it as bone dry with self-loathing dust floating around in it.

What will your excuse be for men who aren't religious, aren't handsome and aren't rich who have had plenty of girlfriends and are now married. A friend of my daughter's comes to mind. You've got him beat by well over a foot. He's not religious, certainly not rich, definitely not good looking and he finally stopped dating around like most young guys eventually do when they stop soughing their wild oats, got married and now has two kids. His wife is 5'9". He has an abundance of personality, even though he's had his stature to deal from the day he became aware that he was never going to grow tall.

You say you have many female friends and you likely make good company as a friend but you also probably show a side of you that allows them to only be just a friend. I know plenty of people who I get along with as a friend but wouldn't want to be in a relationship with them because I couldn't stand being around 24/7 belly aching about whatever it is they always eventually get around to belly aching about. An analogy would be like being able to appreciate someone's toddler and interact with them but not wanting them as a steady diet because of the drawbacks which may be associated with them. In your case, you're making your life a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 154 (view)
 
LADIES - A Question of Height...
Posted: 1/20/2016 12:40:25 PM
Seriously!! Take a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3QezBvN1BE and then smack yourself upside the head. Maybe actually take the time to read some of his stuff and see if you're still whine worthy.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Boob Pics
Posted: 1/20/2016 11:41:55 AM
I'm just glad I don't have to ponder about this one for myself. At this age, never mind being not being able to hold a pencil under them, I'd probably be able to lose a heavy duty metal stapler beneath the decrepit gravity ravaged things. Fricking traitorous body!!
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 77 (view)
 
Teenaged son has a problem with my choice in physique in men and is rude to them
Posted: 1/20/2016 10:26:08 AM

"As I had said in the beginning it sounds like your son is protective of you and just looking out for your best interest. Perhaps he's seeing something that you're not/getting a bad vibe."

I sometimes wonder about this too.


I very much doubt your son has the capacity to determine what your best interests may be when he doesn't have the capacity to understand that you're his parent and he doesn't get to treat your acquaintances, you, and his acquaintances in the manner in which he does. If he has the capacity to have empathy for animals, he has the capacity to have it for people as well. He either has low self-esteem as the cause for putting down of others or delusions of grandeur unbecoming of someone of his age with lack of life experiences.

As far as his refusal to shovel your driveway as a self-described strong young adult male and leave that to you as a smaller, older female, it smacks totally of disrespect, which is a continuous theme to your story. He lacks respect because you have allowed it and it's now conveniently psycho babbly called oppositional defiance disorder. You're stuck between a rock and a hard place because, if family law where you live is like it is here, you can't cut off paying for his schooling until he reaches 21, but you can cut off everything else, aside from the roof over his head, such as cooking for him, doing his laundry and not allowing him any other privileges of living with you unless and until he gets a job that will both go towards him moving out and going a long way to teach him what the real world is like. Unfortunately, expect that to raise the level of his "oppositional defiance disorder" and if he gets a job, expect him to lose it for being willfully insubordinate and rude to his co-workers and you'll be right back to square one. I'd once again strongly suggest that you get some counselling yourself in order to deal with the situation because just communicating with him with no strength or determination to follow through on your part is going to have this man-child living with and controlling your life in a Norman Bates fashion for years to come.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 240 (view)
 
Thoughts on attractive men
Posted: 1/19/2016 10:21:40 AM

nearly always the guy behind the wheel of the hot rod and attention getting cars are shorter than average.


The joke, at least among many women, is the shortness referred to has nothing to do with height.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 47 (view)
 
Teenaged son has a problem with my choice in physique in men and is rude to them
Posted: 1/19/2016 8:11:27 AM
As stated, your son has no boundaries, whether it's due to how you have parented him to this point or whether it's some personality disorder that's difficult for you to manage. Regardless, you are clearly unable to keep him in check while he's a guest in your house but I doubt you have the strength of character to tell him it's time he live his life on his own. For this reason, I'd suggest you seek parenting counselling because you have a clear deficit in this area. You cannot have control over your son if you don't have control over yourself to parent effectively. You need professional assistance yourself in this regard.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 20 (view)
 
A Sentimental Rant
Posted: 1/16/2016 8:13:53 AM
^^^Happy BIrthday!!
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 24 (view)
 
be careful of JOY2678
Posted: 1/15/2016 2:32:45 PM

...we don't know if you are telling the truth

...and she's obviously not. The second sentence in the original post states "only to find out he is married, unemployed and no license due to a DUI". She made it sound as though she knew none of the above (highlighting by caps for emphasis even) when, in fact, she knew all of it all along. She then states he was talking to other females throughout the relationship - who knows, she could be assuming because she found him back on the site - the day they broke up - by checking him out. For someone who is interested in wanting others not to have anything to do with him, she certainly is going out of her way to keep checking up on him herself, right down to knowing he's sleeping on someone's couch. At this point, she should be wishing this post would have been deleted for naming names because it's not putting her in the kind of light she intended.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 29 (view)
 
wherewhitepeoplemeet
Posted: 1/8/2016 12:15:53 PM
I see something like this as being too concerned about what someone else does if it doesn't directly affect you or hurt others. It's a big "so what" to me. Even if it was exclusionary, which it doesn't appear to be but does sound that way by the title, why be offended? There are a ton of things in life that exclude a person joining. To me it would be like being excluded from Mensa if you have an average IQ and then whining about it or being offended by not being able to join a nurses group when you're not a nurse. So what!?
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 602 (view)
 
hot trolls? i missed them
Posted: 1/7/2016 8:21:37 AM
My daughter once had a rabbit that we named Stewie...
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Wallpaper. Good or terrible idea. Help needed please.
Posted: 1/6/2016 8:56:03 AM
If you're going to go ahead with it as you plan, make sure you put sizing on the wall you're applying it to first. We all think we'll leave something up for years and years but that doesn't usually happen. Sizing will make it easier for you to apply to flat paint on the walls (if that's what the existing paint is - you don't necessarily have to put sizing on gloss paint) and will make it easier to strip off if you ever want to take it down.

As walls are never totally plumb, you'll also need to hang a plumb line (string with a heavy weight on the end) to get your first sheet straight, otherwise, particularly when using a pattern with lines in it like brick, you'll wind up with the paper looking crooked.

Also get a seam roller (like a rolling pin but very small) to ensure your seams become as invisible as possible, and use a sponge to flatten the paper as you spread it rather than a cloth, otherwise you'll wind up with lines and dimples you'll never be able to get out.

There are all kinds of videos online that you can get excellent instructions from - I'd suggest that as well.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Fight For Her or Let Her Go?
Posted: 1/4/2016 12:43:43 PM

I'm moving on (or trying to. Definitely in better shape now than Christmas time) but can't stop thinking about her. If she still cares for me, should I make the effort to win her back? Or should I continue to separate myself and move on?


I can't stop thinking about a bunch of the fattening food I ate over the holidays, how good it tasted at the moment, and how I wish I could eat like that on a daily basis...but know it's not good for me. I vote for you to continue to separate yourself and move on. Good luck!
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 578 (view)
 
VolkanoKing here-this forum is effed up
Posted: 1/4/2016 11:34:55 AM

You guys are the pack that other poster referred to, have been all along with two others, right ouij and chamelon?

Eegads...is that supposed to be me referred to above? Why is it that a person can't speak for themselves without being thought of as belonging to a gang, strictly if there are opinions that are similar to someone else? It's either that or the actual poster who IS batshyt crazy is wracking it's beady brain assuming that those who haven't been deleted to this point yet must be part of a gang. Who knows...who cares, but these conspiracy theories are amusing nonetheless.

On another note, something I don't believe I have ever received before, which I received over the weekend, was an email to my personal email (not a message here) from POF wishing me happy birthday. Maybe I just never paid attention before - or, aside from me previously being oblivious, is it possible the new powers that be are starting some pleasant marketing?
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 32 (view)
 
Why do you believe or not believe that Climate change is taking place
Posted: 12/31/2015 8:24:16 AM
Apparently there was global cooling alarmism in the 60's and 70's. I can't remember what I ate yesterday, so couldn't begin to remember what I was taught in school at that time. See: https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/1970s-ice-age-scare/

And then, of course, there's stuff like this thrown in the mix: http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/12/09/its-a-chinook-leo-albertans-respond-to-dicaprios-climate-experience-while-filming-the-revenant
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Happy New Year
Posted: 12/31/2015 7:40:17 AM
Happy New Year! I resolve to procrastinate about any resolutions I may now or may in the future even think about.

vvv
"Jimmies on my chocolate sundae, or whipped cream?"

I'd halt the decision making problem by using both!
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 101 (view)
 
who pays
Posted: 12/24/2015 11:56:49 AM

"The divorce rate today makes perfect sense given the current world we live in at least here in the US."
Sounds great, except the difference orce rate has gone down significantly over the last few decades. Another theory busted.
It seems many of the divorced here assume the divorce rate is far worse than the actual facts.


The deduction made may not be accurate, being that there are fewer marriages, at least in Canada as per Stats Canada. So does that mean the divorce rate has decreased because the marriage rate has decreased? See below:


Legal marital status refers to the marital status of the person under the law (e.g., never married, married, divorced or separated, or widowed). In 2011, 46.4% of the population aged 15 and over was legally married, while 53.6% was unmarried—that is, never married, divorced or separated, or widowed—a widening of the gap first observed among the total population in 2001.4 In contrast, thirty years earlier, in 1981, 60.9% of the population aged 15 and over was married, while 39.1% was unmarried.

The provinces with the largest shares of the population aged 15 and over that were married in 2011 were Newfoundland and Labrador (52.9%), Prince Edward Island (51.7%), Ontario (50.3%) and Alberta (50.2%). The smallest shares of the population that was married were found in the territories: Yukon (37.6%), Northwest Territories (35.0%), Nunavut (29.7%) and in the province of Quebec (35.4%).

The decreasing share over time of the population that was married and the corresponding increase in the unmarried population may be related to a number of factors, including a higher average age at marriage and an increase in the divorced or separated population. In addition, a higher proportion of people live in common-law unions than in the past—either as a relatively shorter-term relationship prior to marriage or as a longer-term alternative, as well as a fairly large share of young adults who live in the parental home, most of whom have never been married.

The population pyramids of the marital status categories for 1981 and 2011 show not only the changing age structure of the population but also the shifting concentrations of marital states. Specifically, in 2011 there was a smaller population that was married in the younger to middle adult years combined with a larger population of middle-aged to older adults that was never-married, divorced or separated compared to 1981
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 73 (view)
 
Merry Christmas
Posted: 12/23/2015 12:22:08 PM

Women no longer have to slave over a hot stove or bother to cook the Christmas pudding weeks in advance. Turkeys and other fare come already stuffed and cooked and all in all life is easier.

For that very reason I have started a new tradition last year of nothing but horse's doovers - constant grazing for everyone and everyone gets to visit in the same room without someone (me) always being stuck in the kitchen. I cook a turkey breast only for the Christmas aroma and for "leftover" turkey sandwiches. No one has to juggle their visiting times with others to be here at a certain time. 40 years of Christmas kitchen duty seemed enough for me!
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 727 (view)
 
Trump for President
Posted: 12/23/2015 11:18:02 AM

male- the Native Americans were to busy to fight the white man because they were too busy fighting themselves for centuries.


Given that statement, it should make the States ripe for the picking pretty soon...
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 67 (view)
 
What does old-fashioned values even mean
Posted: 12/23/2015 9:46:00 AM

the OP himself acknowledges that he doesn't even want to open the dialog with the lady, even though it is important enough to him to discuss it with strangers on an internet forum.


Apparently the OP did attempt to open the dialogue with the lady:
I brought this up after date ten and she took offense, said it was too soon for me to start complaining.
...and was effectively told that dialogue wasn't welcomed, at least with respect to the topic at hand. While I totally agree with never regretting discussing something important to me directly with the person it affects, I think in this case the OP is getting a good warning sign of what to expect from his lady friend, both when it comes to her expectations and her unwillingness to communicate when someone draws something to her attention.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 6 (view)
 
Anger issues
Posted: 12/23/2015 8:23:57 AM
Nah. I don't think it has anything to do with people your (our) age. Crabby, biatchy young people just turn into crabby, biatchy older people. When they're younger it's called "being assertive"...pffft
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 59 (view)
 
What does old-fashioned values even mean
Posted: 12/23/2015 8:06:20 AM

gotta love the ole 'traditional and old fashioned values' one....


No kidding. If she's so traditional and old fashioned, give her an orange in a stocking for Christmas and see if she still feels traditional and old fashioned. Seems to me that traditional and old fashioned is used by many so called modern women, who have their own paying jobs, as an excuse to live off of men or to supplement their own incomes. Sorry (not really) to those women with "traditional and old fashioned values", but I find the mindset rather disgusting.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 666 (view)
 
Trump for President
Posted: 12/21/2015 11:05:42 AM
lol...00Spy...you didn't ask for a list of HRC "lies". As for being biased about Trump, what's to be biased about when the rest of the world, myself included, has heard the same lies out of the same mouth that were cited? It is what it is. It's not even subject to interpretation - expect when Trump "re-interprets" what he's said and lies again, after being called out on his off the cuff comments.

vvvAgain, wasn't me who mentioned being disqualified. Trump can stay in and receive the comeuppance that is surely coming his way before all is said and done.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 662 (view)
 
Trump for President
Posted: 12/21/2015 10:31:42 AM
00Spy - Who said it disqualifies him? You asked for a list of lies - what I posted is only the short list - a short list that easily shows he has no qualms about proving how little he knows, throws whatever out there he feels like, and yet his followers eat it up like a baby eats pablum, or water seeking it's own level, or stupid is as stupid does. Mind boggling!
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 658 (view)
 
Trump for President
Posted: 12/21/2015 9:42:10 AM

Half, you should list the Trump lies here.

I'll point you in the right direction for HTD: http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/11/catalog-donald-trumps-divorce-reality

1.On 9/11, he personally saw thousands of Muslims in Jersey City cheering.
2.He never said Marco Rubio was Mark Zuckerberg's "personal senator."
3.There are actually 93 million people not working and the real unemployment rate is about 40 percent.
4.The Obama administration is sending Syrian refugees to red states.
5.Climate change is a hoax invented by the Chinese.
6.He opposed the Iraq War and has dozens of news clippings to prove it.
7.Thirteen Syrian refugees were "caught trying to get into the U.S." (Actually, they just walked up and requested asylum.)
8.He never said the stuff Megyn Kelly accused him of saying in the first debate.
9.He will allow guns at Trump golf resorts.
10.People on the terrorism watch are already prohibited from buying guns.
11.Among white homicide victims, 81 percent are killed by blacks.
12.America has the highest tax rate in the world.
13.CNN lied when it reported that a speech he gave in South Carolina was one-third empty.
14.His criticism of Ford prompted the company to move a factory from Mexico to Ohio.
15.Vaccines cause autism.
16.The Obama administration wants to admit 250,000 Syrian refugees.
17.ISIS built a luxury hotel in the Middle East.
18.He was on 60 Minutes with Vladimir Putin and "got to know him very well."
19.He was never interested in opening a casino in Florida.
20.November 17: The United States only started bombing ISIS oil fields "two days ago."
21.His campaign is 100 percent self-funded.
22.Mexico doesn't have birthright citizenship.
23.The Iran deal forces us to "fight with Iran against Israel" if Israel attacks Iran.
24.We still "really don't know" if Barack Obama was born in the United States.
25.More than 300,000 veterans have died waiting for VA care.
26.The Bush White House begged him to tone down his "vocal" opposition to the Iraq War.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 6 (view)
 
Old, Angry, Bitter and Damaged Goods
Posted: 12/21/2015 9:32:45 AM
I think one word will kind of sum the OP up...pissant!
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 613 (view)
 
Trump for President
Posted: 12/17/2015 10:10:17 AM
^^^Ain't that the truth! Particularly after having been a participant in what created the problem to begin with by meddling with countries and in ways they had no business doing so in the first place.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 40 (view)
 
snogging in public
Posted: 12/17/2015 10:04:11 AM

The couple themselves of course are unlikely to care about what others are thinking or who sees nor should they, but for those who haven't had the luck I guess it can feel bad.


With this same mindset, people who have children should keep them locked inside, out of sight, so as not to make those who wish they had some feel bad. Everyone should drive a smoke spewing run down vehicle, so as not to make others who don't have something shiny and new...feel bad. No houses should be allowed either, so as to not make those who wish they had one...feel bad. You get the drift.

I have no problem with public displays of affection but, yes, there's a limit when you figure you're going to be witness to a porn show not of your choosing where more discretion needs to be shown by the love birds.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 610 (view)
 
Trump for President
Posted: 12/17/2015 9:39:16 AM
Is it at no expense to your country to set up camps and see to their daily needs for them in their own country, as some have suggested, where both they and those who are assisting them are so easily being subjected to the same treatment as that which they are running from?

While I agree that there needs to be better measures of vetting, I also believe your country needs to do better vetting of your own citizens because, to this point, your threat of violence seems to be more of a concern from within than without when looking at violence statistics perpetrated by your own citizens. But by all means, if you want to jump on the Trump fear mongering band wagon and close your borders to a certain group of people based on fear rather than good judgment, you do run a higher risk of creating animosity from those who held none to begin with, both inside and outside your borders.

vvv Great - vote for Trump and bring all kinds of trouble to yourself...and everyone else. TTFN
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 608 (view)
 
Trump for President
Posted: 12/17/2015 8:59:07 AM

U S A and no country has a duty to "help refugees" particularly where helping doss not benefit the USA.


If you volunteer in a soup kitchen or provide food to a food bank, do you do it as a desire to help your fellow man, or do you do it expecting to get something in return? Or do you simply not give of yourself because you are adamant that others should do for themselves, even if they are experiencing only temporary setbacks. Are you afraid if you help them and it starts them on the track of being able to be able to eventually fend for themselves, they will eventually take your job or do you hold the position that they maybe, just maybe, they may have something to offer down the road that will benefit others in a pay it forward kind of way?
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 455 (view)
 
VolkanoKing here-this forum is effed up
Posted: 12/17/2015 8:29:31 AM

I don't think it is your behaviour that is causing the problem (if it is even that, I could be wrong) so much as others around you and the perception that is being created/received. That's all I ment. Making someone more special/important than others can sometimes create resentment. JMPOV.


I get where you're coming from, Gina. It can be the only explanation for why so many good people get the boot. Some people are fond of each other and have no problem expressing it. Others are just as fond of certain posters and just think it without expressing it. However, I don't believe that they should be stifled from expressing it for the sake of those who aren't themselves specifically named in the same way. How sad is it that expressions of fondness for others is now being deemed as politically incorrect because you have some people believe, if they aren't named in the same fond way, they are "excluded" or isolated?? I would think a balanced person would read the fond comments of others toward each other and feel good about people able to get along so well, rather than effectively isolating themselves from the same fondness by griping about it.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 858 (view)
 
Womens laughter
Posted: 12/16/2015 7:23:37 PM
Ha! You think you have it bad. Try being here with the ones that don't leave and drive the same way as you describe, but on treacherously icy, snowy roads...
 
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