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 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 210 (view)
 
Dating Etiquette of 21 century ADULTS
Posted: 3/4/2019 10:41:50 PM

A woman owes no man a damn thing for accepting HIS INVITE.


The true arrogant response by a feminist who thinks all men are created evil!
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 138 (view)
 
Women always wanting men quite taller than them
Posted: 3/4/2019 10:27:59 PM
Women want men who are taller than them.

Men don't want women who are wider then themselves.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
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Spanking
Posted: 2/2/2019 11:12:34 PM
There are women who enjoy spanking. It would be best to have a long discussion with her as to her wants and needs. If she has real interest and you like her you may want to do some study on how to go about this.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
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Dating Etiquette of 21 century ADULTS
Posted: 2/2/2019 11:05:36 PM
Have a peculiar question. Looked but couldn't find a post on this particular subject:

As I get older women (over 60) seem to come away with the idea that once a date happens and a second was discussed it seems a long term relationship has automatically started. Perhaps it's how I come across. I try to show interest and I enjoy conversation.

At this point in life I'm not particularly interested in marriage but having an ongoing relationship with a woman would be nice. I'd state in my profile I'm not interested in marriage but wonder if most women will be turned off and assume I'm one who is only looking for sex which is not the case.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 77 (view)
 
Married Men -To date or not to date?
Posted: 1/3/2019 5:23:24 PM

Summation….a married man offers you SEX, kisses and hugs, at your place, in your bed, cozy and comfortable, getting all of your attention while they are with you, and you are giving them what is lacking in there marriage at home…..and you get…..SEX…. sweet deal for them!!!!


According to statistics from Psychology Today 91% of cheating married men are cheating with a married woman. That's 91 men out of 100. Either there are a few women seeing boat loads of men or that's a lot of unfaithful wives. I.E. wives are more unfaithful than society knows or will publish.

Forum responses ALWAYS point at the unfaithful husband. The unfaithful wife is, usually, forgotten about and gets away with the affair.

Likewise (according to Psychology Today) women become bored living with and sleeping with the same man after 10 to 20 years or more. Of course, statistics like this are universally ignored. It's always the man.

The next time you hear about an unfaithful husband keep in mind that 91% of the time there is an unfaithful wife seeing him.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
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How many good second dates have you gone on in the past 5 years?
Posted: 11/2/2018 8:32:18 PM
I've been divorced for 10 years. I'm, also, 67 years old. During this 10 years I've met for coffee with a number a women and dated 3 of them. Women accuse men of only wanting sex. One the other hand women seem to meet because the immediate goal is marriage.

I'm not saying marriage is bad but when that is the chief priority men will disappear on you ladies. Just like women disappear when they find out men only want sex. I'm at the point where I have refrained from asking anyone out because the conversation within a few dates turns to marriage.

Men should stop pushing early sex and women should stop pushing marriage early on.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 104 (view)
 
How many partners is too much?
Posted: 10/7/2018 5:57:50 PM
Not having one I can't comment directly. However it seems logical that the inner workings of a woman in this area are muscular and she should be able to latch onto her partner. Tightening up after an episiotomy I wouldn't think by itself is all that is necessary.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 255 (view)
 
SEX AND WOMEN OVER 40 OR 50?????
Posted: 10/1/2018 4:39:16 PM
One hears a lot about wives enjoying the bedroom after the divorce and seldom during the marriage. So, why do so many women not enjoy sex during marriage? I've read articles in Psychology Today that women become board with their marriage partners (and sex) just like men though it seems women will seldom admit to this.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 317 (view)
 
Do nice guys finish last?
Posted: 9/22/2018 12:24:28 AM

It does explain one thing to me. Why I have no idea if women see me as attractive, or not. 40+ years hasn't told me one frickken thing. Why I don't bother with women, becomes quite clear to me. If I knew in advance, that women thought I was at least acceptable looking, and worth being given a chance to impress them in some way, then I'd have tried harder in this junk they call dating.


Makes me wonder how much of this attitude was first developed in Jr High and High School? If one wasn't part of the popular in-crowd you never had much in the way of dates. There were the very attractive (popular) guys and girls and then many of the others were attractive wanna-be's. Plus girls seldom would date guys their age or younger. I still find myself not approaching women a few years older. Not because I want young women but because I was so use to girls my age and a few years older wouldn't give guys their age or a few years younger the time of day.


Kinda like stuffing nickles in a slot machine that never pays off. I should have guessed that, when I walked into that empty casino.


In 1979 I was on a business trip to Los Vegas (audio equipment service trip). We left on the red eye special at 12:30am. I sat in the gate area for a hour waiting for the plane to load. While waiting I watched two women stuff quarters in the same slot machine. One after the other left. After the second lady left a typical looking gambler went up to that machine and after inserting a half a dozen quarters, cha-ching, he raked in everything. He then sat back down and continued to watch. I never put so much as a penny in any of those machines figuring someone was waiting to cash in.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 194 (view)
 
Has #Metoo invaded online dating?
Posted: 9/21/2018 8:39:30 PM

"I don't agree with the misandrist mentality of the METOO mob, anything feminists are involved in is man hate and another way to steal men's money...METOO also gives women too much power to dictate the law and many innocent men have gone to prison, cause the guilty until proven innocent mentality of the so called law."


In 2002 Brian Banks was accused by Wanetta Gibson of rape. He was convicted and spent the next 5 years in prison. From 2007 until 2012 he was sentenced to home arrest. Wanetta Gibson sued the school district and won $1.5 million. A private investigator secretly recorded (audio and video) a conversation where Wanetta Gibson admitted Brian Banks didn't rape her.

State Criminal Statutes of Limitations prevents the state of California from prosecuting Ms. Gibson. She is guilty of lying to the state to initiate the initial arrest, lying in a court of law during prosecution and defrauded the State of California out of $1.5 million of which she has spent most of.

Why can a man be arrested and tried for sexual assault 30 years later yet a woman lies about rape, ruins a mans life, defrauds the state and then walk away?

Fortunately, a movie is being made about this case and will first show in Los Angeles. Then it will show across the country. At least she will be be socially held accountable by the reputation it will give her (unless she moves and changes her name). Finding employment or a boyfriend will be near impossible. A small price to pay for what she has done.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 296 (view)
 
A man and his car...
Posted: 9/21/2018 8:31:27 PM

There was a LOT of other reasons why Stude went under. One, was employees punching in absentee workers. Another, was employees hiding out in the plants, sleeping. Ever go to an auction of a Studebaker employee's belongings? One I went to, the guy had new starters, generators, alternators, carbs, fuel pumps and such. Hundreds of them. Another, had gas torch sets. About 40 of them, along with air wrenches, drills, drill bits, and other assorted tools all belonging to Studebaker. Employee theft was rampant in that place.

Lots of things not talked about, did that place in also. Both sides killed that plant.


All of what you said happened. My dad told me about it and lots more. The employees sleeping and punching out and leaving was a result of the union not standing up to their members and management didn't have the power to discipline the employees. Their last president, Sherwood Egbert, was especially disliked. Dad said they use to call him egghead Egbert. When Stude's closed 5,000 men were put out of work with no advanced working. In a city of 100,000 (roughly 20,000 men) this created a virtual depression for South Bend and the surrounding area. A few of the old Studebaker buildings are still standing today. Studebaker had a proving ground west of town. Many of the tree's were cut down to form the word "Studebaker" if one flew above the area. Now it's a county park and the name can no longer bee seen.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 291 (view)
 
A man and his car...
Posted: 9/16/2018 7:06:02 PM
Since I grew up in South Bend Indiana (Studebaker's headquarters) and my dad worked for Studebaker I'm well aware of the history. The Lark was first produced in 1959. The Hawk was very similar to the President. We owned a 1951 Champion and the Champion body was larger and different than the Hawk. I owned a 1962 Lark. Studebaker's closed because of a numbeer of reasons. Bad management and a union unwilling to negotiate.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 288 (view)
 
A man and his car...
Posted: 9/15/2018 8:01:53 PM

A man and his car...


Now this will show my age. If I ever come into some extra money I would love to obtain a 1962 Studebaker Silver Hawk. I'd replace the standard 289ci engine with something larger. Not talking about the Golden Hawk. The GH had the fins in the back which I never care for. The SH was a nice looking machine.

To bad one can't upload photos on POF. Those who are older may remember the car I'm talking about. The Studebaker Golden and Silver Hawk was Studebaker's response to the Ford Thunderbird.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Is POF FINALLY thinking of the men on this site with new bonus features?!?!
Posted: 9/15/2018 7:50:09 PM
Just read an article that scammers are using limited artificial intelligence programs to scan profiles and send messages just like what you describe. Ultimately they'll want money or offer an off site web site where they'll offer porn videos for sale or sex 900 numbers.

The delete button is your best response.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 72 (view)
 
Women Don't Know What They Want
Posted: 9/15/2018 7:39:06 PM
[quoteI understand about the drama. Yet on the other side, if you want NO drama....then that just means you may be having dinner by yourself. I feel that if someone can't listen to the bad, then they don't deserve the good. I have had some things happen to me, and just needed someone to listen, not fix.

Be careful how much "baggage" you unload early on. Most of us are divorced and have baggage. We all understand that the other, probably, has some emotional pain. If one unloads to much the other may feel it's not worth the emotional effort: they're just looking for someone to gripe at. If one can't stop stating all of their problems then they haven't overcome their deepest seated hurts and aren't ready for a relationship. This may sound uncaring but a new possible romance partner isn't your post divorce counselor.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 271 (view)
 
Do nice guys finish last?
Posted: 9/15/2018 7:26:52 PM

Do nice guys finish last?


Nice guys with no personality and are afraid to interact with women won't get to far. Get off of your cell phone and Facebook and learn how to interact with people. Let your personality come through and crack a few (clean funny) jokes. Most women will, at least, give a nice guy with some personality and not afraid to talk and joke an opportunity. At least that's my opinion.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 47 (view)
 
MAKE-UP WARS
Posted: 9/4/2018 7:55:49 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ddHuxe68w


IMO: During her makeup session the first (older) woman actually looked younger when she smiled during her redo session.

A woman always is more attractive, no matter what age, when they smile! I'm sure many women would say the same about men.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 41 (view)
 
Triggers in profile photos
Posted: 8/23/2018 9:05:25 PM
Since I don't view men's profiles I'll restrict my thoughts to women. I'm 67 and the low age for my searches are 60. What triggers me to move on is a photo where it's obvious the woman (in the photo) is twenty years younger that the age stated in the profile. A 60 something year old woman posting a photo that is obviously a mid to late 40's woman is hiding herself. Not confident in how she looks.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 185 (view)
 
Has #Metoo invaded online dating?
Posted: 8/20/2018 8:14:46 PM
IMO, using the media to reveal these cases needs to stop. If harassment/rape has taken place law enforcement should be contacted immediately and not facebook or twitter. Not saying the perpetrators should get away with it but the legal system has to be used.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
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Has #Metoo invaded online dating?
Posted: 8/20/2018 3:42:23 PM
The New York Times published an explosive story on Sunday, alleging Harvey Weinstein accuser and prominent #MeToo movement figure Asia Argento quietly paid off a young actor who accused her of sexual assault.

Argento paid 22-year-old Jimmy Bennett, who played her son in the 2004 movie The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things, $380,000 after he said she sexually assaulted him in a hotel room in California when he was 17 and she was 37, the New York Times reports.

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What goes around comes around. So Asia Argento is being tried, convicted and socially executed in the media before she can defend herself! She should be considered innocent until proven guilty. #metoo is coming home to roost.

Most men would be embarrassed to come forward, in a case like this, because society would humiliate them.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 612 (view)
 
Sex on a First Date - Does it Kill a Potential Relationship?
Posted: 8/1/2018 1:33:42 AM

So I place value on that, and don't want to share that with a stranger.


So is kissing.


There's a big difference between a kiss and having sex.


So I place value on that, and don't want to share that with a stranger.


Same with kissing, right? And after date #3 or #2 or even #1 winds down, they're not a Stranger.


I have to disagree. After one, two or three dates there is still lots one doesn't know about the other. This reasoning sounds more like "how soon can we have sex" instead of "I'm interested in developing a relationship with you".

IMO, women should use their intuition and not give in to pressure. Let the emotional side mature first and remember "a mature relationship takes time". If some guy can't wait for the relationship to mature first and threatens to walk away, let him go. He doesn't have the woman's best interest at heart.

Women give in to soon all the time and then we hear about how there aren't any good men.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 39 (view)
 
new 'mature age' way of saying no without actually saying no
Posted: 7/30/2018 8:54:28 PM
When I first signed on to POF I received a message from a woman. From her picture she was exceedingly thick. I made the mistake of saying thanks but not interested (no comment about her size). I received a scathing response accusing me of only wanting a young woman or a #10. Needless to say from then on if I receive a message from someone I'm not interested in I delete the message and move on.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Is dating harder for men or women?
Posted: 7/30/2018 8:15:59 PM
From my mid teens to early 20's women usually preferred to date men a few years older. Most guys (that I knew) understood this and, generally, didn't approach women their age or older unless the woman initiated the idea that she was interested. I, like most of my friends, approached women our age to a few years younger (not to young). I'm not sure why but I find myself still locked into this mentality. While I did date a woman who was 5 years older than myself in 2012 I look to women my age or down to 6 or 7 years younger. Right now I'm seeing a woman who is 5 years younger than I am but then at my age there isn't any difference.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 592 (view)
 
Sex on a First Date - Does it Kill a Potential Relationship?
Posted: 7/30/2018 7:50:49 PM

... It's all about expectations....and honesty.
A woman shouldn't expect a relationship out of sex....and a man shouldn't promise a relationship to get sex.


^^^^^^ Couldn't have said it better.

I was in high school during the late 60's and one continuous question that women seem to ask is "will he respect (love) me tomorrow"? There seems to be an awareness in women that sex early on isn't a guaranteed relationship builder. IMO, women should listen to their common sense. When I was young women tended to say NO a whole lot more than today. If a woman decides to have sex early on keep in mind what MsMicki said: "A woman shouldn't expect a relationship out of sex".
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 12 (view)
 
What Is It With 'Addiction'?
Posted: 7/21/2018 9:28:10 PM

really?
not so sure myself if an alcoholic is cured after a period of incarceration. Unless you have a narrow definition of alcoholism as the act of abusing alcohol to excess. a notable number of patients leaving rehab quickly resume taking their drug "of choice" Unless by mechanisms more active than simple abstinence, the brain remains programmed to desire it's chemical shot. Iboga is reputed to be effective at wiping clear the specific brain cells that are involved in addiction to allow an addict to recover, as long as they have counseling to address the issues that led to developing an addiction.
would anyone that thinks that addiction is a myth like to watch, and hear a new born baby who because of their mother's addiction, has been born with an addiction ? It's a heart breaking thing to witness. Luckily the brain is so plastic at such a tender age, that treatment is likely to be successful in the long term without resorting to the rigors of an Iboga flood


Physical addiction ends in less than a week. BTW, there is a huge difference between and "addict" and forming a physical "dependency". Lots of people who go through spinal injuries and surgeries are on opiate pain medication long enough to develop a physical dependency. Once their condition is stabilized the majority are weened of pain meds and live normal lives. In fact there are hospitals where a person is sedated and treated for 24 hours (more or less) and meds used to eliminate the opiates presently stored in their opiate receptors in the brain. Physical dependency eliminated very quickly. Of course, this process is not covered by most insurance and is very expensive.

An addict involves a choice of a persons will to not want to stop. They want to escape today's reality by using alcohol and drugs.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 9 (view)
 
What Is It With 'Addiction'?
Posted: 7/18/2018 8:22:53 PM
Addiction is not a disease
Tim Holden, MMed (Psych), Psychiatrist and assistant professor
Author information ► Copyright and License information ►
The statement, in a CMAJ editorial, 1 that addiction is a disease is not supported by the evidence and reads more like a political policy statement than a reasoned intellectual argument.
There has been a steady erosion of individual responsibility and loss of any concept of personal blame for bad choices. To quote comedian Flip Wilson, “It’s not my fault — the devil made me do it.” Calls to destigmatize addiction remove any sense of personal responsibility.

Addiction does not meet the criteria specified for a core disease entity, namely the presence of a primary measurable deviation from physiologic or anatomical norm. 2 Addiction is self-acquired and is not transmissible, contagious, autoimmune, hereditary, degenerative or traumatic. Treatment consists of little more than stopping a given behavior. True diseases worsen if left untreated. A patient with cancer is not cured if locked in a cell, whereas an alcoholic is automatically cured. No access to alcohol means no alcoholism. A person with schizophrenia will not remit if secluded. Sepsis will spread and Parkinson disease will worsen if left untreated. Criminal courts do not hand down verdicts of “not guilty by virtue of mental illness” to drunk drivers who kill pedestrians.

At best, addiction is a maladaptive response to an underlying condition, such as depression or a nonspecific inability to cope with the world.

The study on the neurobiology of addiction 3 referred to in the CMAJ editorial1 looked at the brains of people with addiction after they had damaged them by their behavior — brains were not examined in their premorbid state. This is analogous to saying that the sequelae of a traumatic brain injury were themselves the cause of said brain injury. Ironically, the title of the referenced article uses the term “disorders” not “diseases.”

Medicalizing addiction has not led to any management advances at the individual level. The need for helping or treating people with addictions is not in doubt, but a social problem requires social interventions.

References
1. Stanbrook MB. Addiction is a disease: We must change our attitudes towards addicts [editorial]. CMAJ 2012;184:155. [PMC free article] [PubMed]
2. Kottow MH. A medical definition of disease. Med Hypotheses 1980;6:209–13 [PubMed]
3. Ross S, Peselow E. The neurobiology of addictive disorders. Clin Neuropharmacol 2009;32:269–76 [PubMed]
4. Ljunggren D. Safe drug-injection site can stay: Supreme Court of Canada. Reuters Canada, 2011. Sept. 11 Available: http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCATRE78T2ZE20110930 (accessed 2012 Feb. 13).
Canadian Medical Association Journal
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3314045/
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 476 (view)
 
Why do men lie to get a woman
Posted: 7/15/2018 5:22:01 PM

^ Say hello to "Daddy Pence" 4 me, LOL
No claims against all men...I have 2 sons Had a Father, & married in the past & now again.

I don't love or hate all men, I take each person on an individual basis as to whether I like them & it is in varying degrees.

Maybe men should start fearing women...

LMAO

You're presently married and on a dating web site? You're only here for the forums, right? I can only imagine how you would respond if you ran across a married man who was on a dating web site. Would you allow a married man the same open mindedness?
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 141 (view)
 
Has #Metoo invaded online dating?
Posted: 7/15/2018 5:10:53 PM

I so agree with you regarding the aspects about men and women’s behaviours nowadays. But that’s the nature of life: with time goes by, things change, people change rapidly.


I have to disagree. The nature of men and women haven't changed on it's own. Powerful sections of our society have force fed these behavioral changes through tv and our educational systems. During the last 40 years there have been people who challenged this ideology and the same sectors verbally assaulted them. Trying to shame them into silence. Radical feminists don't like to share power.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 123 (view)
 
Has #Metoo invaded online dating?
Posted: 7/14/2018 7:33:22 PM
Women today behave very much more like men than their grandmothers. After all, they attend college to compete in careers (rather than to find a husband). They display interested in sex. They drink alcohol and do drugs. They are active in competitive sports, including as professionals.

Masculine energy and feminine energy are very much out of balance. It's like playing a game where you did not know the rules of the game and yet you kept playing. A relationship is the biggest game on the planet and most of us don’t know the rules anymore. I was born in 1951 and remember all that has been said and happened. No, women didn't burn their bra's in the mid 60's. However:

1. In a simple way, masculine energy is made up of, mostly, straight lines and angles. Feminine energy is made up of, mostly, curves and swirls. There seems to be a reason why men and women think differently but to long for this post.

2. Women's Liberation of the 60's brought about some needed changes. During the mid to late 70's the radical side became unsatisfied and began making greater demands. The majority women we happy with the gains made. The radical side began pushing to push to de-emphasis the need for men. Pressure was placed on women to "Not Need a Man". Men were only needed to impregnate women and then should be eliminated from the family equation. Unfortunately the national news media picked up and publicized this ideology. By the end of the 80's our entertainment system made men out to be stupid, fat dummies who were all failures at life. All men on TV sitcoms, commercials, movies, etc were male actors playing out how dumb they were and could only succeed if they had a woman in their life. Women were portrayed as hot, beautiful, intelligent and successful in everything and had no need for a man. They "endured" the men in their lives and usually rolled their eye's at every move he made.

Today most men under 40 have grown up with this mentality. Many feel if they are so helpless and incompetent they may as well live the part and let their base nature be their guide. The increase in violence, drugs and porn have only exacerbated the problem

Radical feminism (and our entertainment system) has taught men to "Be more wimpy" while women have been taught to exhibit more of their masculine side. We're now seeing the result of all of this combined together. The whole reasoning is to drive men and women apart. The radical side of feminism today wants power much more than they do equality.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 440 (view)
 
Why do men lie to get a woman
Posted: 7/14/2018 5:31:32 PM

Most men want a certain level of what is stereotypically perceived to be femininity in women and most women want a certain level of what is stereotypically perceived as masculinity in men. In today's world, women have less stereotypical feminity and men have less stereotypical masculinity but the expectations do remain to a certain extent.


The interesting question is, Why?
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 120 (view)
 
Has #Metoo invaded online dating?
Posted: 7/14/2018 5:28:07 PM

Mishawaka, Indiana VS NYC

a huge disparity


... and the disparity is?
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 107 (view)
 
Has #Metoo invaded online dating?
Posted: 7/13/2018 6:09:14 PM

Jco, for how men are brought up to be, I don't think life is necessarily easy for them. I'm just presenting what women may go thru, as its something men may not think about.


Both men and women have unique challenges when growing up and during adult life. This doesn't mean one is worse than the other, just different. For the last 30 years it seems the emphasis has been on women. Evening news, Oprah Winfrey and other talk shows, medical documentaries, etc.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 403 (view)
 
Why do men lie to get a woman
Posted: 7/13/2018 5:57:41 PM
So is your message 398 posted to prove America is still number 10 or is your intention just to bash men? It seems you and Blonde are here for the purpose of causing division between men and women. Both of you make outlandish claims against ALL men. Most of your info comes from unreliable sources.

BTW, I have a long list of female serial killers that I could post. The vast majority of them the national news media has never reported. Of the last 60 years there have been more female serial killers than men. Do I feel this proves women are more dangerous than men? No. It's how the information is written and published. What is the ax you two have to grind?
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 98 (view)
 
Has #Metoo invaded online dating?
Posted: 7/12/2018 9:04:39 PM

So if a women is not a passive, kissing a male's butt, she is not "loving"?


Yet another woman who views life at one extreme and demands that all men are at the opposite extreme. She can't believe that there are men and women somewhere in the middle of the argument she's presenting.

As I stated earlier, she fosters the philosophy that "if a men's mouths are moving they are all lying".
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 358 (view)
 
Why do men lie to get a woman
Posted: 7/12/2018 1:39:35 AM

Here's a resource, and its no fabrication, the following is from newsweek (and its a recent article within two weeks, your article is over 4 years old):

http://www.newsweek.com/us-top-10-most-dangerous-countries-women-report-995229



Top 10 Most Dangerous Countries for Women
Published Jun 26, 2018, 10:00 am SGT

The Thomson Reuters Foundation survey of about 550 experts on women's issues.

10. UNITED STATES

The only Western nation in the top 10 and joint third with Syria for the risks women face in terms of sexual violence, including rape, sexual harassment, coercion into sex and a lack of access to justice in rape cases.

The survey came after the #MeToo campaign went viral last year, with thousands of women using the social media movement to share stories of sexual harassment or abuse.

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They used #metoo info. Not exactly a scientific survey. Yes there are men who have abused women and they should be prosecuted: but not in the news and on social media. Stories are slowly showing up where men have been falsely accused. What ever happened to "innocent until proven guilty". With #MeToo the man is tried, convicted and socially executed with no way to defend themself. The great liberal English barrister John Mortimer called this presumption the “golden thread” running through any progressive idea of justice. And it’s a thread that is being weakened in the febrile post-Weinstein climate.

The #metoo phenomenon has exposed sexual harrasement but it's also not a reliable source of information to judge an entire nation by. PURE ACCUSATION. Example:

CNN Reporter’s Attempt To Take Down Morgan Freeman With a Sexual Harassment Story and it's backfiring. Some are saying it’s a case of #MeToo gone too far.

Chloe Melas, a reporter for CNN, was the one who broke the major story on Thursday (May 24). Melas’ experience stemmed from publicity event last year for “Going in Style,” a film starring Mr. Freeman. There’s video of the actor saying “I wish I was there” to Melas during the panel, which "supposedly" surrounded other sexually explicit comments he made, however, no sexually explicit comments were found on the audio/video recording.

It’s having some calling into question not only Melas’ accusations against Morgan Freeman, but also, the others she reportedly spoke to who also claim they experienced inappropriate conduct by him. NO PROOF and the conversation was recorded!


I stated months ago that the #MeToo was moving beyond valid complaints to black mail and character assassination. When this begins to happen society will no longer accept at face value what women are claiming. Which in many cases is unfortunate for the victims. No, using #MeToo accusations is anything but accurate info.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 64 (view)
 
why do do many women have body type = thin
Posted: 7/11/2018 8:18:54 PM

^^^^^^^

Well, Dave --


Have YOU ever fantasized about the woman who looks just gorgeous without make-up...……

Tell us the truth, now.

How is fantasizing correlated to high maintenance women? No, I never fantasized about Hanoi Jane!
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 354 (view)
 
Why do men lie to get a woman
Posted: 7/11/2018 8:11:20 PM

... America is actually number 10 in the world's countries for the worst place women can live (because of our massive rates of sexual violence, work place harassment, etc) we are the ONLY western democracy on the list. Perhaps we should examine which sex is more apt to have the government attempt to control their bodies by literally heaping reproductive slavery upon them. Marital rape was legal while I was in high school - was that for men? Or for women? ...


Whoever originally stated this please show your resource!!!!! This is an out right fabrication. The following is from the Wall Street Journal:

The 10 Worst Countries for Women

10. Morocco
9. Jordan
8. Lebanon
7. Cote d’Ivoire
6. Iran
5. Mali
4. Syria
3. Chad
2. Pakistan
1. Yemen

https://247wallst.com/special-report/2014/11/28/the-10-worst-countries-for-women/4/

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We have a number of trolls trying to stirring the pot. I hope everyone is researching these outlandish misandry "facts". Fortunately most of the ladies here have common sense.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 82 (view)
 
Has #Metoo invaded online dating?
Posted: 7/11/2018 10:13:14 AM

I love women. Most are great. Its the minority of feminists who make things up to play victim and claim oppression that me and normal men dont care for. Most times when a women decides she doesnt need a man and buys some cats instead, its because good men know to avoid her drama causing fantasy world living ass.


There are several varieties of feminists. The smallest and most vocal are radical feminism. Most women want equality but they stir clear of the radicals. Radical feminists are not pushing for equality: they demand pure D power and control. The majority of women disassociate themselves with this minority branch. If you remember how Hillary Clinton railed on women who voted for Donald Trump. The queen bee's true colors came through. Later she offered a weak apology to these women that she downgraded so vehemently. Radical feminists are at one extreme and they declare that all men are of the opposite extreme. The majority of men and women realize this and this radical group looses credibility because of this.

The only time I use the term feminist is when dealing with the radical variety. Unfortunately our news media focuses on this most radical group. While most women want equal opportunity they recognize men and women have differences. Women like a gentleman who displays masculinity. Sad that feminists have been able to create the image of being masculine is evil.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 190 (view)
 
Who Is Too Young or Too Old for You to Date?
Posted: 7/10/2018 6:57:08 PM

Age is a number and love conquers everything, at least I hope it does.

If age doesn't matter there are lots of retirement centers with people looking for dates.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 76 (view)
 
Has #Metoo invaded online dating?
Posted: 7/10/2018 6:55:13 PM

America is actually number 10 in the world's countries for the worst place women can live (because of our massive rates of sexual violence, work place harassment, etc)

Thats complete BS. The stats are padded because women will raise their hand to the question "have you been sexually assaulted" if someone looked at them and the girl didn't find them attractive....

They will raise their hand if a man they didn't like asked them out.
or if someone cat calls them. To feminists its all sexual assault. Thats why Matt damon was demonized for expressing that there are degrees to these actions and you cant lump in saying hello, to rape.

the numbers are padded , but the truth is that north America is one of the best places for women.

If you read blonde's responses in other topics and forum sections you'll come to the conclusion that she trolls differing areas looking to post her "lovingly" accurate comments.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 344 (view)
 
Why do men lie to get a woman
Posted: 7/10/2018 6:45:02 PM

Women make up over 70% of the world's impoverished and illiterate.


No, 70% of the world’s poor aren’t women, but that doesn’t mean poverty isn’t sexist
Carolina Sanchez's
Submitted by Carolina Sanchez On Thu, 03/08/2018
co-authors: Ana Maria Munoz-Boudet

“Seventy percent of the world’s extreme poor are women”. If you’ve encountered this statistic before, please raise your hand. That is a lot of hands. And yet, this is what we call a ‘zombie statistic’: often quoted but rarely, if ever, presented with a source from which the number can be replicated. In fact, what we know from existing data is that women account for about 50 percent, not 70 percent, of the world’s extreme poor—although, as we argue below, this does not mean poverty is gender neutral.

We have such questionable “facts” because existing poverty data makes it hard to have a clear picture of the true gender dimensions of poverty. Poverty is, generally, measured at the household level—meaning that if a household lives in extreme poverty, we assume that everyone under that roof lives at the same level of deprivation.

http://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/no-70-world-s-poor-aren-t-women-doesn-t-mean-poverty-isn-t-sexist

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So if 50% of people in poverty are women who are the other 50%? We only have two genders to select from: men and women.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 73 (view)
 
Has #Metoo invaded online dating?
Posted: 7/10/2018 3:57:55 PM
No, 70% of the world’s poor aren’t women
Submitted by Carolina Sanchez On Thu, 03/08/2018
co-authors: Ana Maria Munoz-Boudet

“Seventy percent of the world’s extreme poor are women”. If you’ve encountered this statistic before, please raise your hand. That is a lot of hands. And yet, this is what we call a ‘zombie statistic’: often quoted but rarely, if ever, presented with a source from which the number can be replicated. In fact, what we know from existing data is that women account for about 50 percent, not 70 percent, of the world’s extreme poor—although, as we argue below, this does not mean poverty is gender neutral.

We have such questionable “facts” because existing poverty data makes it hard to have a clear picture of the true gender dimensions of poverty. Poverty is, generally, measured at the household level—meaning that if a household lives in extreme poverty, we assume that everyone under that roof lives at the same level of deprivation.

http://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/no-70-world-s-poor-aren-t-women-doesn-t-mean-poverty-isn-t-sexist

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Sexism, racism, lack of education, political anarchy, etc all play a part. According to the authors facts 50% of the of those in poverty are women.

Who makes up the other 50%?

Obviously MEN. It's not the family pet bird! Another radical feminist propaganda anti-male accusation/statistic.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 71 (view)
 
Has #Metoo invaded online dating?
Posted: 7/10/2018 3:26:12 PM
I live in Indiana. Our states Attorney General (Curtis Hill) has been accused of misconduct. He should be tried in a court of law. This is another #metoo "release to the news and on the internet" instead of taking it to the Marian County (Indianapolis) prosecuting attorney. This is bypassing the legal system. The news has already tried, convicted and socially executed him. Everyone up to the Governor has called for his stepping down from the position of Attorney General with only accusations being offered. What happened to the constitutional "Innocent until proven guilty"?

If proven guilty in a court of law then yes he looses his position and has some sort of sentence pronounced on him. WHAT IF HE'S found innocent? His name has been dragged through the mud. His career is over. The #metoo mode of operation is causing chaos within our countries legal system. If found innocent the women involved should be prosecuted for illegal use of the legal system and the media should be tried for defamation of character. Splashing a persons name (no matter who the defendant is or the accused crime) before the public before the legal system can investigate the matter is Character Assassination. This needs to be brought under control.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 58 (view)
 
why do do many women have body type = thin
Posted: 7/10/2018 3:01:18 PM
Men's view of high maintenance women:

Her Mirror is her best Friend.
She requires a lot of time and demands constant attention.
She is focused on image and appearance in shallow ways.
She is quick to anger, excessively sensitive to interpersonal disagreements and slow to forgive.
She assumes all eye's are on her.
She always thinks she deserves a better man.
Valentine's Day isn't about her man. It's about lavishing everything on her.
(If a mother) Mother's day should be religiously supported but Father's day can be tolerated.

It seems men and and women have differing opinions of what High Maintenance women means.

L_LuuLuu: women defining what men are thinking is like men defining what women are thinking. Both genders think slightly different with assumptions leading to incorrect conclusions.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 55 (view)
 
why do do many women have body type = thin
Posted: 7/10/2018 1:35:05 AM

Dave, I don't think anyone should lie about anything, but at least with weight, you can see pics. As for using old pics, sometimes that's obvious by looking at clothes, hairstyles, that they look too young, etc. If a person suspected old pics, just ask the person for a timeline for them.

A pof guy I met looked to be using older pics, but I didn't care. If a person is of the same weight and general looks, its not a big deal to me.

If you meet a person that used old pics and they look much different, then I'd tell them they lied basically, and leave them where I found them, date over. A lot of people may have very old pics because they don't get contacted and never bothered to update them.


Over the years I've read posts by men and women that say posting a 15 to 20 year old photo is tantamount to lying about their age. "If they're being dishonest about their photo what else will they be dishonest about"? If they have a cell phone they can post an up-to-date picture.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 49 (view)
 
why do do many women have body type = thin
Posted: 7/9/2018 5:10:42 PM

But don't forget that men have a much lower bar for looks than women:

Depends on what the man is looking for. There have been countless posts over the years where women complain that men are to picky. So one has to ask: which is it?


Women are given ridiculously high standards for optimum weight (although it's MUCH harder for women to maintain weight than men).

When young, yes.But when I was young women were just as picky if not more so: especially in high school and college. As men age most reasonable men take into account a (real) few extra pounds, A few wrinkles and silver hair. I know I do.


Women have to co-ordinate 100 outfits with 1,000 pairs of shoes and jewelry.

Imelda Marcos anyone? ! Sounds just a bit excessive to me: unless, of course, you're joking.


Men need 3 pairs of shoes -- dress, sandals, and nikes. And 2 pairs of pants -- jeans and dress. And 1 dress shirt and a few pull overs.

Of the men I've known throughout my life your quantities for jeans/slacks and shirts are quite low.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 179 (view)
 
Who Is Too Young or Too Old for You to Date?
Posted: 7/9/2018 4:16:08 PM
Some older men need Viagra and some older women need KY gel. Both genders have their challenges.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 41 (view)
 
why do do many women have body type = thin
Posted: 7/8/2018 9:20:59 PM

I don't look at wording for size, I look at pictures. I see many men are incorrect by what body type option they choose. Most are overweight enough to choose that option, but don't.


Both men and women, many times, post younger pictures and select a size range that is one size smaller than they truly are. Both genders do this and it seems acceptable for women (women are socially allowed to be selective) but men are looked down on because they are judging by "looks" instead of a woman's award winning personality.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 140 (view)
 
Who Is Too Young or Too Old for You to Date?
Posted: 7/6/2018 7:37:12 PM
Al Capone wore Fedora's.
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
Msg: 308 (view)
 
Why do men lie to get a woman
Posted: 7/6/2018 8:13:04 AM
So BLONDE_ANGEL_1 is Ms Troll PHd. She does seem to enjoy stirring the pot. After reading further of her "enlightening posts" it seems the best thing to do is ignore the good doctors wisdom. Bullies do tend to slip away when everyone ignores them.
 
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