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 Author Thread: Proper ladies don`t go out alone!
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 274 (view)
 
Proper ladies don`t go out alone!
Posted: 1/15/2012 9:59:07 PM
I've noticed this pattern EVERYWHERE, not just bars and restaurants. I participate in big public celebrations, which draw lots of women, but invariably they arrive with their men and often children as well. My buddies and I love to watch, but the meetup potential is close to -nil-.
Since women complain relentlessly about NOT being able to meet men, this is the first issue they need to address.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 29 (view)
 
Girls go first?
Posted: 12/5/2011 9:02:32 PM
Considering how I get -zero- replies when I make the first contact, I'm flattered if a woman writes first.

Forty years of women's lib hasn't made a scratch on 400,000 years of evolution.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 21 (view)
 
MAN with no sex at all?
Posted: 12/5/2011 8:43:19 PM
I've known some women like that.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Profile Review
Posted: 12/1/2011 11:12:19 PM
Your face doesn't show in any of your pics.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 37 (view)
 
He propositioned my 21 year old daughter
Posted: 12/1/2011 10:38:41 PM
Something that riles me to no end is when women post pics of themselves here WITH their attractive daughters. Children generally should not appear on here.
My sis-in-law has a PoF profile and she "gets it". Her daughter is a cherub-faced blonde haired girl, the type moms become paranoid about, and mom is paranoid.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 5 (view)
 
To me the recession is even worse now
Posted: 12/1/2011 10:20:35 PM
I got stuck in evening traffic coming from Napa back to Vallejo, and it was the worst I've ever seen. Where are they all coming from? If there's a recession, these people seem to have plenty of work. Same with Rt 37 across the north side of SF Bay-- jammed eastbound every afternoon. It used to only get like that on Sundays, but now it's every day of the week. I've heard the Bay Bridge commute hasn't been so bad, but I never go that way.
Saw a Craigslist ad for gutter cleaning help, and this guy works 60 hours a week. Me, I've got nothing for the next two weeks. Applied for a tech job posted today, and thirty other guys were also applying by noon.
If you want to read the real news behind the bad news, there's a site called SOTT-dot-net, and it touts a psychopathic basis for why our governments and institutions are going to the Devil. The more you follow this line, the more sense it makes. It's beginning to appear in the mainstream lately as well. It takes courage to put this kind of thing online. Like an anaconda, the NWO is inching towards its goal, which is total control of the Planet, and we are the little piggy hypnotized by its gaze.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Hai hi PoF!
Posted: 11/29/2011 7:34:52 PM
You haven't got one friend to hold the camera for you, and take some good outdoor pics, in honest sunlight?
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Hai hi PoF!
Posted: 11/29/2011 7:33:57 PM
I like it. You write the way I do, except I get busted for it. My favorite color is dark bay-- for a horse. I love all sorts of shapes.
Yeah, you might have to message guys that attract you, except, from viewing the "Rate Images" on here, it's slim pickings. Bunch of losers.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 3 (view)
 
please review my profile thanks
Posted: 11/29/2011 7:27:06 PM
Most of us feel like we're invisible!

Your pics are bad. Why the pic from three years ago? Do you ever NOT wear a ball cap? Women get pretty jaded by guys with ball caps everywhere. Your pics need to look like you're running for MAYOR! Stand up, face the bright lights, show us your pearly whites-- and take off the ball cap.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Trash my profile and win a weekend for two
Posted: 11/29/2011 7:22:35 PM
John in bh-- I get about the same response rate you do: -0-!

People have this thing about too-high expectations, but dating fat chicks is one thing I won't budge on. IMO, maybe my expectations are not high enough...
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Please Help me with my profile.... I don't know what I can do to fix it....
Posted: 11/29/2011 9:07:05 AM
ALL your pics are bad. You need to post pics that look like you're running for MAYOR.

Jack-o-spades pulled out some of your text and he's right, it needs to go. Have you ever read Robert Glover's book "No More Mr Nice Guy!"? It's cheap at amazon and you can visit his website nomoremrniceguy.com. This stuff should be required reading before we go online! It's all about setting personal boundaries and projecting honesty without manipulation, which translates into RESPECT. If you google "Nice Guy Syndrome", you'll get an eyeful of what we're confronting. It changed my life. Too many of us go into the world of dating and discover we're totally unprepared. Online dating drives the lesson home in a hurry.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Trash my profile and win a weekend for two
Posted: 11/29/2011 8:56:59 AM
Okay, made some changes, now what?
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Same city=Too close for comfort?
Posted: 11/28/2011 8:14:43 PM
Okay, I've been tampering with the profile, since it wasn't netting anything anyway. Maybe I'll go back more to how it was earlier.

Sure seems like anything we say can be used against us!
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 4 (view)
 
profile review?
Posted: 11/28/2011 7:48:37 PM
Drop the nightime beach pic or else do it over with more light.

Every sentence on your page begins with "I". What about "You" and "We"?

Pics shouldn't include young kids-- they're not going on your dates. This site is for over 18, anyway.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 3 (view)
 
No replies even??!
Posted: 11/28/2011 7:42:32 PM
Pretty much everything in your profile is guaranteed chick repellant.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Any Help would be appreciated
Posted: 11/27/2011 9:13:17 PM
You don't say a thing about your own interests or the sorts of things you'd like to find in the women you want to meet.
I'd toss that last pic in your collection, it doesn't look like anything. It's okay to have kids under 18, but they shouldn't be posted online especially here.
I'll venture not a lot of women find it attractive when a man wears his ball cap ALL the time.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Take a look for me?
Posted: 11/27/2011 9:00:15 PM
Your main pic doesn't show YOU, it just shows a man's back. We want to see YOU: the whites of your eyes and pearly teeth smiling.
People's kids should not be identifiable online. This site is for over-18, anyway. Are they coming on your dates? If not, they shouldn't be part of your profile pics. Your profile is about YOU.
You don't show many interests that are chick-friendly. Most of what you write starts with "I". Where do you describe the woman you're looking for? Write more about "You"! You want to project your awesome life that you'd like to share, but it's not very inviting to most women.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Same city=Too close for comfort?
Posted: 11/27/2011 8:40:39 PM
I live in a small-ish city of 28,000 or so, and the singles pool is pretty shallow. It's mainly a yuppie suburban commuterville. I see ladies here on POF, but can't get a response when I write, nothing new. You'd think living nearby would be a bonus, but I may be wrong! I messaged one woman and asked very casually if we're "too close for comfort", and let it go at that. She never replied. I wrote again later, and she has me blocked!
A woman who contacted me from another site apparently freaked herself out at the prospect of being almost-neighbors. She said she was afraid of what her teen son would think. We never did meet.
I did actually meet one woman who just moved here, and she's awfully sweet, very pretty, just not someone I want to date.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 6 (view)
 
How Would You Fix CA?
Posted: 11/23/2011 8:47:22 PM
Make everyone who wasn't here in 1980-- leave!
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 134 (view)
 
Single (never married at all) men over 45
Posted: 11/19/2011 8:30:06 PM
I never chose to stay single for my entire life, I have known many women I'd like to marry. They all had different reasons or excuses to pass me by.
Mostly, my life/career path never brought me into contact with marriageable women. I didn't go to college, I went to a mostly male tech school.
I used to wonder why I wasn't meeting single women my age-- at all! Nada! Well, one. We shared a home for a couple of years. We keep in touch, but I'm still glad I never married her.
By my late twenties, I realized, they were all domesticated and out of the pool.
I wouldn't see them again until they hit forty, divorced with kids. How romantic.

One big issue I had was a lack of social skills for dating. Some of us are naturals, I'm not. Most people get around that by simply having a collision between their hormones and class schedules. I wanted to learn how to be a Chick Magnet, but I couldn't find a mentor. I looked, and finally gave up. When I got this computer, one of the first things I discovered was the online seduction community, of dating gurus and Pickup Artists "PUAs". This was knowledge and insight I'd sought when I was twenty, but it didn't exist!
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 110 (view)
 
What do women over 50 find desirable and undesirable in a man's profile?
Posted: 11/19/2011 8:05:07 PM
Actually, it might help if you really are ready for a marathon, if you're going to date me! I'm tired of couch potato dates.
BTW Justme2424, are all those people in your pic going on our date? If not, why are they there? Do they know they're online with you? If I like one of them better than you, can I pick her instead?
Just kidding.
No I'm not.
Your page should be for and about YOU. Those people aren't *you*.
I click past women's profiles when they include other people.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 38 (view)
 
Effect of location outside LA area on dating.
Posted: 11/19/2011 7:51:39 PM
When I put "here", I meant where I live, up north. Women "here" are one reason I've considered moving South.
I've heard women complain there aren't any men on Equestriansingles! There are-- they're all cowboys or wannabes. Women get tired of seeing the same profile over and over. I had lots of responses when I wrote something totally different from theirs, but hardly anyone nearby.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 58 (view)
 
Do guys actually date single mothers?
Posted: 11/15/2011 8:40:06 PM
Even though women invariably try to tell us that they're not looking for a replacement dad for their kid(s), the truth is, we become that by default. A kid who sees his mom with a man is going to relate to him as Dad. It's nature, that's all. Some men will be okay with this, others not.
The men who are NOT okay with parenting another man's offspring won't say this out loud, but they feel like they're wearing a sign that reads "I WASN'T HER FIRST CHOICE". This begins to rub up against the negative image of a "Nice Guy"... never her first choice, probably not second or third, either... Last!
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 90 (view)
 
Do all single moms have problems with dating?
Posted: 11/15/2011 8:29:35 PM
I reconnected with an old friend after fourteen years. She now has three kids from two different men, and one of those is a psychotic prison inmate. They can't keep him locked up forever, so when he gets out, he comes back to her, and she always takes him in-- even though he's tried more than once to kill her. I've stopped being involved with her. Twenty years ago, I wanted to marry her. Glad I missed that trainwreck!
My recentest ex has two smart kids in college, a home she can't afford, a horse, a career gone down the toilet, and a toxic ex who wants to embezzle their retirement account. Where could I fit in here? I tried to be her refuge, but after a few months she gave me the "I need time" talk and pretty much ended it then.
This was right before Christmas...
Her friends gave her a lot of heat for dumping me.
Another woman I became very attached to told me that she'd signed up her three kids for sports leagues, and it would take all her weekends, from March through November. I could have responded better, but it would have ended the same way. This was right before Christmas...
I can usually have a brief good time with a single mom, but it doesn't last.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Trash my profile and win a weekend for two
Posted: 11/15/2011 8:12:45 PM
Maybe I need to move to the UK! Or Australia...
Yes, women here in the States are downright obese, it's frightful. The more they "diet", the worse they get. It's only got like this in the last twenty years. I joke about not knowing if I actually have erectile-dysfunction, or is it because there are so few attractive women to turn me on?

Regarding "My children will always come first", I have to add that, thankfully, most women here understand why it's a turn-off. They "get it"! They will often mention straight up that they only have their kids part time or whatever.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Tell me if sound like a B*tch on profile please
Posted: 11/15/2011 8:01:10 PM
You say that if you have a man, you want his attention and loyalty, but you've already warned him that your children are "first and formost" to you. He's going to wonder why you're even on here. He's certainly not going to be important to you.
Drop the pics of your kids and besties! They're not coming on our date, so they shouldn't be profiled with you. Besides, this site is for over-18 only. Kids under 18 can be mentioned, not identified.
Keep the pic of you at "work", I'm a farrier, it's how my work looks, too!
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Never too late to learn?
Posted: 11/15/2011 7:54:04 PM
"Partners in crime" shows up elsewhere in these forums as a most-hated profile phrase.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 36 (view)
 
Effect of location outside LA area on dating.
Posted: 11/15/2011 7:47:39 PM
Find locations where women congregate.
I have a profile at Equestriansingles, and I notice, 90% of the California women on there are in SoCal. Why, I don't know, because I'm sure we have as many horses up North. The SoCal women are hot, too! Ones I see here are why Viagra was invented.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Playing hard to get.
Posted: 11/14/2011 11:35:54 PM
Mostly women call it "playing hard to get". Men call these women FLAKES. You have to tune your approach to prevent flakes. It's a problem outside of dating, too; I run into it on the job also. It requires setting boundaries and establishing respect.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 47 (view)
 
Repetitive lines you see in profiles
Posted: 11/14/2011 11:31:42 PM
OMG, do women realize what the Code of Chivalry actually means? It doesn't say anything about holding doors and pulling out chairs. It's closer related to the Samurai Code or Bushido. Any woman who equates Chivalry with holding doors etc doesn't deserve a man who actually lives by it.
Chivalry was meant to teach manners to the armed thugs working for petty warlords, and who called themselves "knights". It only worked in fairy tales.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 32 (view)
 
Gettting no where with this site?
Posted: 11/14/2011 11:01:00 PM
Your list of interests doesn't jump out as being especially chick-friendly.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Statements in profiles that make you say NEXT!
Posted: 11/14/2011 10:53:54 PM
"My children will always come FIRST".
.. and, there is no second... or third... so why am I on here?
How would a woman respond if a man says "My career will always come FIRST"? Get ready for a lot of lonely nights, ie, same as you'd have without him/her.

Luckily, most women's profiles assure us they only have their kids part time, if at all. These women "get it".
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Please be hateful girls/women
Posted: 11/14/2011 7:33:32 PM
Your pics sure don't tell us much. Take off the hat! Pic #2 is awful. YOU should fill the frame. Use more light-- the ladies want to see the whites of your eyes.
Never ask women for dating advice, they'll always send you up the river. Instead, ask men who are getting results.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 4 (view)
 
A lil help
Posted: 11/14/2011 7:24:53 PM
There are FOUR people in your main pic. Lose three of them, asap. They're not coming on your date, so they shouldn't be in the pics. The igloo pic would be fine, but you look like a shadow. Do it over.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 2 (view)
 
rookie looking for help =D
Posted: 11/14/2011 7:19:05 PM
Your photo is terrible. Take off the coat and turn on more lights. Better yet, go outdoors in open sunlight, and face towards the sun.
When I Rate Images on here, my basic rule is "Whites of Your Eyes"! If I can't see your eyes, I click "Reject/Delete".
You can update and modify your writeup endlessly.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 6 (view)
 
Trash my profile and win a weekend for two
Posted: 11/14/2011 7:01:53 PM
Sunnygal, I know where you're coming from, but I'm speaking with a man's viewpoint, who wants someone in his life. When we read "My children will always come first", it's a snub, before we've begun! In fact, we're likely to think there is NO #2 or #3 in your life, only #1-- your kids. If that's the case, why are you on here? There's clearly no room in your life for a man.
Like you say, it's a line we all know, but sadly it's used to death.
If I had to critique someone's page who says this, I would tell her to find a more diplomatic way to describe her priorities, as you're struggling to do.
If I were a hiring boss, and saw that on your resume, you'd go in the Do Not Hire file.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Trash my profile and win a weekend for two
Posted: 11/14/2011 6:46:44 PM
The "Average" American woman is typically 40 pounds overweight-- it's a known fact. When she describes herself here as "a few extra pounds", she's honestly saying that she's quite a bit more than forty pounds overweight. I've seen this in real life.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Can somebody please explain something
Posted: 11/13/2011 6:49:22 PM
I don't see anyone else bringing up the possibility she's a genuine psychotic. That doesn't mean she's Hannibal Lecter's sister, it just means she's not an emotion-feeling human being. She uses your genuine emotions against you, because they keep you predictable and controllable, while she is anything but those. It's like the idiot in the BMW who uses traffic rules against you, knowing exactly what you'll do, so he can do everything else. Tara Palmatier's Shrink4men.com is all about this. The stories she posts will curl your hair, you can't make this stuff up. Beware of the ex-spouse who poisons your son's mind, in order to alienate you from him. In some states, it's illegal.
I saw one article that mentioned how Eskimoes used to handle a compulsive liar: "Someone will push him off the ice while nobody is looking."
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Approaching in public
Posted: 11/13/2011 6:37:37 PM
Cold approaches in public are the most difficult, so it's no wonder your gut feeling reacts badly. Have you read any of David Deangelo's articles on here? If not, get them direct from Doubleyourdating.com, he has really great insights. See also Pickupguide.com. There are PUA bootcamps where you spend entire weekends doing nothing but cold approaches; Realsocialdynamics.com and Lovesystems.com are a couple; pricey, but worth more than wasted money on "dates" that go nowhere.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Trash my profile and win a weekend for two
Posted: 11/13/2011 2:21:18 PM
Thanks-- I'll play with this one.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Trash my profile and win a weekend for two
Posted: 11/13/2011 2:20:19 PM
Thank you!
What I've realized over time is that we have to give something to ourselves, too. It's right to have your kids be your First priority-- after yourself, of course-- but I want to be your first COMMITMENT. Lots of people lose sight of the difference, and the fact that YOU have to be your own #1, not your kids. If you cannot first meet your own needs, how can you meet someone else's? Kids can sense when their parents have lost their sense-of-self. Our mates do the same thing, and it's why we often lose interest in each other.
Whenever I read "My child(ren) will always come FIRST", I see a huge Red Flag: I will not be #2, not even #3 or #4 in her life, but more likely #6 or #7.
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Trash my profile and win a weekend for two
Posted: 11/13/2011 11:48:04 AM
I know I could use some newer pics, but I hardly ever get the ones people take of me having fun... like at public events where I'm in my Civil War outfit, but I doubt those would be winners on here!
Once in a while I get added to someone's Favorites, but they rarely actually write to me. That tells me, my page is getting attention, just the numbers aren't working for me.

I once had an outright rejection from a woman close by, where I grew up, telling me that since I've never been married or had kids, our goals and values could never be a match. That stung! It's why I have the reference to life under a rock. How much of a handicap can that be, anyway? I would imagine it's a Plus... no toxic exes and no kids that will "Always come FIRST."
 wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 3 (view)
 
What am I doing wrong
Posted: 11/13/2011 10:56:36 AM
When I rate daily pics people send in, I'm always leery about group shots. It doesn't seem to me like you'd want to show yourself hugging someone of the opposite sex, if you're trying to get a new date.
Many of the pics people send in are badly lit-- they need more light on their faces!
Try spending time doing more creative writing. Ross Jeffries has a ton of info about how to do this, and you can also find more good materials at pickupguide.com.
 54wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Dito on the Why no responces
Posted: 6/1/2010 5:02:02 PM
Only one of your pics shows your face in the light. Lose the sunglasses!

ALL of your sentences begin with "I". Try using "You", or even "We" instead.
 54wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 54 (view)
 
white collar woman, blue collar man.
Posted: 5/29/2010 9:38:30 PM
My last partner was a professional commercial architect, (ex)trophy wife, and... I shoe horses for a living.
At first, I wondered how it would work, but here's the irony: Her career has gone down the toilet, her ex was siphoning off their retirement account, kids and animals draining her meagre resources. I probably put more money in the bank than she does.
 54wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 24 (view)
 
User asks who is your friend in that photo with you!
Posted: 5/29/2010 9:20:21 PM
My sister-in-law is on here, and she mentioned, she would NEVER post a pic with her daughter included. The daughter is really gorgeous, too.

I hate it when there's anyone else in the picture, especially young children. Nothing screams NEXT! like a woman posing with her newborn.

When I play the Rating feature here, I vote off any and all group pics.
 54wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 27 (view)
 
What's wrong with rating someone?
Posted: 5/29/2010 9:03:29 PM
Golfcoast-- Ask for Robert Glover's "No More Mr Nice Guy!"; it's cheap at amazon. There's also a website, Nomoremrniceguy(dot)com, and it includes a men's forum.
 54wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 26 (view)
 
What's wrong with rating someone?
Posted: 5/29/2010 8:59:56 PM
If you want an example of hypocrisy, consider how women call us "superficial" for objecting to their being obese, er, "Average". If their obesity is so superficial, why does it become an insurmountable issue when they try to knock off those pounds?
 54wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 11 (view)
 
What does commitment mean to you?
Posted: 5/29/2010 8:54:33 PM
For a man, "Commitment" is a promise we can't walk away from... like, joining the Army, or buying a home, or... getting married.

When a woman says "commitment", all she means is a clearly-printed label for the relationship. It answers the "What are we?" question, which itself is foolish. When a woman has to ask this, it means NObody is in the driver's seat, and God forbid SHE should have to take the wheel!
 54wooliepack
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Now that I'm older...it finally makes sense.
Posted: 3/28/2010 9:31:00 PM
I noticed, after I had bypass surgery last Fall, my eyesight improved... Not a lot, but enough to notice.
 
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