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 Author Thread: What do YOU expect to really get out of this?
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 85 (view)
 
What do YOU expect to really get out of this?
Posted: 1/28/2007 8:18:29 PM
I keep thinking that eventually online dating will yield lightning in a bottle. A well written profile really should include many interests, likes, and needs. I have taken the time to include pretty much everything one needs to decide whether or not we would have something in common. When you meet people out on the street, in bars or clubs, or any other normal area it is always a crapshoot.

I have been doing this type of thing for several years and have met a couple of good matches. I dated one person successfully for a year. Having been on several pay sites it seems like they were a complete waste of my time. I spent a significant amount of time reading profiles and carefully responding to the ones that seemed most compatible. Many of those people never bothered to respond to even the most thoughtful email. I get the feeling that on those sites it was merely a filter of people looking for the wealthiest match they could find. I have met several people who posted inaccurate pictures, or pictures of them 10 years ago when they were in shape. Pictures are never going to tell the entire story at any rate. No one is really perfect, so the flaws will come out in time anyways.

The bottom line to me is that I am searching for a lifetime match here and out in the world as well. As we get older and hopefully wiser, it only stands to reason that we should get more selective if we've held out this long. For some I think they only end up settling because they fear being alone. My match is certainly out there somewhere. Who knows where?

I am ever optimistic!
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 243 (view)
 
Does an illegal immigrant deserve the same respect as a legal immigrant/citizen?
Posted: 1/24/2007 9:34:31 PM
The following are the senators who voted to give illegal aliens
Social
Security benefits. They are grouped by home state. If a state is not
listed, there was no voting representative.

Alaska: Stevens (R)
Arizona: McCain (R)
Arkansas: Lincoln (D) Pryor (D)
California: Boxer (D) Feinstein (D)
Colorado: Salazar (D) Connecticut: Dodd (D) Lieberman (D)
Delaware: Biden (D) Carper (D)
Florida: Martinez (R)
Hawaii: Akaka (D) Inouye (D)
Illinois: Durbin (D) Obama (D)
Indiana: Bayh (D) Lugar (R)
Iowa: Harkin (D)
Kansas: Brownback (R)
Louisiana: Landrieu (D)
Maryland: Mikulski (D) Sarbanes (D)
Massachusetts: Kennedy (D) Kerry (D)
Montana: Baucus (D)
Nebraska: Hagel (R)
Nevada: Reid (D)
New Jersey: Lautenberg (D) Menendez (D)
New Mexico: Bingaman (D)
New York: Clinton (D) Schumer (D)
North Dakota: Dorgan (D)
Ohio: DeWine (R) Voinovich(R)
Oregon: Wyden (D)
Pennsylvania: Specter (R)
Rhode Island: Chafee (R) Reed (D)
South Carolina: Graham (R)
South Dakota: Johnson (D)
Vermont: Jeffords (I) Leahy (D)
Washington: Cantwell (D) Murray (D)
West Virginia: Rockefeller (D), by Not Voting
Wisconsin: Feingold (D) Kohl (D)

These people have voted for you and I to pay social security benifits to those who didn't pay in a dime.

I have legally worked and paid taxes, medicare, and social security since I was 16 years old. Why should I be responsible for paying benifits to people who never paid ?

If I was to try and legally move to another country almost anywhere in the world, I would not be given the same job opportunities I have here. Further if I was to try and illegally move and do the same my chances for success would be even less. Penalties for aiding or harboring illegals in many European countries range from 6 to 10 years in jail.

Yet here I live in Atlanta, Ga and Illegals stand 50 wide on the sidewalk across from the police station waiting to jump in the back of your truck.

The problem is not just the people entering, but the jerks who are hiring them. Contractors rates are at an all time high for work, and they grow fat by lining their pockets on the backs of windfall profits by hiring these people. Greed drives the market for hiring illegals. If I contract someone to do a job for me I want legal verification for every employee.

I don't hear anyone complaining about your clothes or shoes that were made in Taiwan for 50 cents by Nike and sold to you for $100.00 either. Here you stand trying to make the most of your dollar and you ignore the subtle nuances of everything you wear and consume. I'm glad you were able to sit and watch the fabulous life of Paris Hilton and Alec Baldwin.

We have almost no national pride left anymore. How many of you bought anything not only made here, but the money went to a company that is based here ? Companies like Toyota and Honda, build vehicles here so they can avoid paying tariffs and force a windfall of public relations. We don't build those vehicles here for companies to sell overseas for 10,000 percent profit either. We generally have become a society of ignorant consumers.

Lazy people who refuse to work and wish to collect welfare and food stamps are another issue entirely. Someone needs to collect trash and maintain government owned land. You want a welfare check ? Go to work for the government who gives you that check doing menial jobs. No work.... no check. Illegal entrance... no check; no cash.

So do human beings deserve respect ? Yes. Either enter the country through legal process or be given a safe escort home and a friendly wave goodbye. Don't expect me or anyone else to pay the tab for someone elses college, healthcare, and retirement that didn't contribute a dime. No one is going to give me those things and I don't expect them to. I further don't expect to go to some other country and be handed a drivers license or benefit from any other program that I never endorsed in any way.
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 22 (view)
 
why do men go for the ditsy thin girls?
Posted: 1/22/2007 7:05:16 PM
I don't get along well with thin brainless girls at all. If you aren't reasonably intelligent we aren't going to get along well. Average to me means many different things. proportion is one of the most important things. Slim all the way to voluptuous . It could be any hair color or height. It's all about intelligence and proportion.

From your pictures and profile it looks like you don't have much to worry about ! Very Cute!

 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 9 (view)
 
is it wrong to tell someone about what there Astology sign says about them when they ask?
Posted: 1/22/2007 6:50:15 PM
As time goes on I have realized that I don't gel well with certain signs. Honesty is the best policy. Knowing what you want isn't a bad thing. I would probably give someone from the offending sign a chance, but they better convince me fairly quickly that they are different from the others I have run across. I don't think either of us needs the frustration that has come to pass.
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Creative Men
Posted: 1/22/2007 6:30:12 PM
One thing is for sure. If any one of my creative outlets becomes more like a business than a release it's time to lay off a little. I go to a creative work environment of sorts, but the things I love the most are for my fulfillment only. If I make some money along the way that's fine. Keep it close to your heart and the best will come out in time. Creative people can become bored easily, but to me that only means the person who will provide life long fire will have a creative energy of their own. Strength, insight, and intelligence.
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Open Window-Close Window
Posted: 1/21/2007 9:54:23 PM
[Quote]So how are those anger management classes working out for you? (Hint: going 35 in the fast lane when the car in front is going 35 isn't a bad thing. Trying to ram me for not ramming the guy in front of me is.) [/Quote]

Hmm. Simply an observation. I don't believe I've ever been on a road with a fast lane that had a speed limit of 35. Four lane roads don't qualify.There aren't any retaining walls on four lane roads. 6 lanes and above only. I'm not angry, only stating an opinion just like you.


<div class="quote"> No, this is a discussion forum on a dating site.

Thanks for your help !

I looked at this forum because it was supposed to be about IM windows.

The political forum is here.

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingForum98.aspx


A dry sense of humor is always appreciated.
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 384 (view)
 
would you ever lie about ur age
Posted: 1/21/2007 9:09:29 PM
I started chatting with someone here awhile back. He profile said 32. Her pictures were of someone in their late 20's maybe early 30's. When I actually got her on the phone after several email exchanges she told me she was 49 . What kind of garbage is this? I don't have a problem with various ages but don't lie in your profile or in exchange. How can you expect someone to trust you? I never spoke to her again.
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Open Window-Close Window
Posted: 1/21/2007 8:22:13 PM
Aren't there more important things to be annoyed about? Something like...I dunno, that guy driving 35 mph in the fast lane? Or maybe Mr. Bush's new stupid plan to kill more people in Iraq?


I thought this was a dating site, not a political soap box. No one likes Jorge the moron anyways, but we're stuck with him just like we were with Clinton. My problem is that the opposition isn't any better. Stop voting for the lesser of two liars.

The morons going 35 in the fast lane need to be rammed from behind one time and pushed into the center retaining wall.



The IM window doesn't work very well here. I would also rather send someone an email first and then chat later if they wanted to communicate that way. If I look at someones profile and I'm not intersted when they IM me, I just click no and move on.
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 32 (view)
 
Why don't men like to dress up for dates?
Posted: 1/21/2007 8:04:58 PM
Dress clothes are for yuppies. I have a suit and a couple of ties, but good luck getting me to wear them short of a funeral. At that point it is out of repect for someone who has passed. I have no problem with cleanliness. I shower 2 times a day most days and I keep myself well groomed. As far as the pants that fit thing all I have to say is " Don't fall victim to fashion or you'll look like an idiot". Nothing worse than seeing some fool walking around holding his pants up with one hand. Button downs are alright every once in awhile. if I'm going out to a really nice theater or resturaunt i'll wear one. The bottom line is you should mostly be able to tell what you are going to get from peoples photos, profiles, and online conversations I would think. If you want a white collar guy with nasty tassled dress shoes, and ties try to find out what their favorite place to shop is ahead of time. My photos are a fair idea of what to expect from me. People need to place more current photos around here.

 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 2 (view)
 
RIP Bobby Hamilton
Posted: 1/16/2007 6:00:08 PM
Bobby Hamilton and Benny Parsons in such a close proximity. Goodbye to two great contributors to the NASCAR community.
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Where do guys like this come from?
Posted: 1/7/2007 4:21:42 PM
Morons are certainly everywhere and this cat is no exception. I have never expected sex on an early date. The end reaction surely solidified his chances of getting nothing from you ever !

The thing I find most annoying is that level of anxiousness that seems to build sometimes. People are all different and I have had dates that wanted an aggressive reaction almost immediately, and if they didn't get it there was no second date even if you really wanted it. A couple of others have been upset about any attempt to kiss at the end of the date even if it was going really well and mutual interest seemed certain. Free frustrating results for everyone ! I have no problems with waiting quite awhile if it seems the result will be good and worth it in the end.

Sexual compatibility however is of great importance to me. I have been with women who I was extremely compatible with. The sex was mindblowing for both. Several were in the middle.It was good but one or the other could have been somewhat ho hum. On the other end of the spectrum were those that I didn't click with at all.

If you are a soft and gentle type and your partner wishes for you to ram them as hard as you possibly can from some strangly uncomfortable positions then both of you will end up unsatisfied for sure. Of course one can adapt to some degree, but will you be truly fulfilled? Probably not. This in my mind will only lead to a bad end eventually.

If you want to wait for a good long time than you should at least talk about what you do and don't like before you decide to fall in love with somone who can't get your juices flowing. At the end of the day men think about sex the majority time and they can't really help it. It's in our genetic code. Self control is a virtue.
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 200 (view)
 
whats with women and harleys?
Posted: 1/7/2007 3:14:05 PM

actually i find the whole harley "culture" repellent. if i find a message in my inbox entitled "harleydude" or something i don't even bother to read it. call me a snob but i know what i do and don't like. i am just being honest. besides, they don't call 'em murder cycles for nothing... who would want to go through the agony of losing someone in such a manner? that would be heartwrenching...i want to grow old with the one i love, not pick him up off the pavement...



That's the great thing about life. There is something different for everyone. There are the bullish macho types that think everyone will swoon in their presence. That deosn't mean that everyone is that way that rides a harley however.

As far as the other half of that. There are no gaurantees in life. There are people who have gone down and those that will someday. I've been riding for about 6 years and I had an accident a few months back. The way you react in any situation will help dictate whether you live or die. I walked away from a wreck that would have killed someone that reacted differently. Get back on the horse and move forward. Life is too short to give up the things you love. I would also rather die tommorow experiencing life than sitting on the sidelines at the end of my days regretting the fact that I had missed out on living to the fullest.

In any case you won't see me riding a wheelie on a bullet bike in excess of 100 mph. Sheer stupidity may be reserved for others !
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Feeling left behind?
Posted: 1/7/2007 2:58:40 PM
Depending on location there can be many different places to spend your time. I know that in Atlanta there are areas of the city that cater to just about every type. If the scene changes to something you dislike than find another. The only thing that stinks about that is some areas were places I enjoyed a great deal awhile back.

When the dance/electronic clubs in my area started to become more pretentious because of the mainstreaming of popularity the people changed. Casual dress and friendly smiles were replaced by a pissing competition for the high dollar snobs near you.

The good thing is I love so many other styles of music and their respective scenes, that it was no problem to just bow out and move on. I still will venture out for the occasional favorite, but you just take it for what it is and leave when the time comes. The higher the noses rise the more empty the souls and eyes.


Right down the street in some other direction are the people you seek more than likely. A little variety is the spice of life....
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 198 (view)
 
whats with women and harleys?
Posted: 1/7/2007 10:23:23 AM
There is nothing like the sound of a HD. I have owned several bikes and love all types of cruisers, flat trackers, and cafe racers, but my Harley is going to be around till I'm too old to climb on. And there really is nothing like an HD. So how could a lady who loves bikes resist an American made big twin ?
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 246 (view)
 
Could you say NO to sex
Posted: 1/7/2007 9:00:11 AM
I do it all the time. There often is a good reason. The people involved usually expect more of a commitment than I could honestly give. Since I care about their friendship the answer has to be no.

On the other hand their are others who I have no attraction to that I wouldn't give the satisfaction.
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 35 (view)
 
Life Is Too Short...
Posted: 1/7/2007 8:52:41 AM
Life is too short to miss out on the things in life you truly love or the things you want to learn more about.

Life is too short to let problems with family or friends to create a void or rift that never properly heals.

Life is too short to avoid trying to understand the things that make others complex or simple in their own special ways...
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 30 (view)
 
Where are all the good guys?
Posted: 1/5/2007 6:52:54 PM

why is it that all the guys are whining about how they're good guys and no one notices? and if you have a set of washboard abs or are extremely good looking, you can't be a good guy? let's face it, girls don't want good guys. stop being such a good guy. this doesn't mean being a complete jack*ss, but it also doesn't mean the quiet lapdog that guys seem to think equates with being a nice guy.

girls want a guy with a backbone, plain and simple. good looking or not, what they want is confidence. a guy with a keg for a belly who is confident about himself will win girls over the 6 pack abs with no confidence...it just happens that a lot more guys with 6 pack abs have confidence than the keg bellies. so guys, stop worrying about being the "good guy" and let's just all be ourselves, washboard abs or not. you can't just act confident...you have to be confident. any girl will admit to you, confidence is hot. and the bad boys just tend to have that confidence more often than the "good" guys. be comfortable in your own skin, and women will want you.


I wasn't whining about anything. I was merely posting a truthfull answer about what is going on here. I have no confidence problems and I know exactly who I am . Being a "good guy" doesn't have anything to do with being walked on or not being confident. It relates with trying to live your life the best way you can and the treatment of other people around us that we come in contact with. Balance. Every person has good and bad within them. It is what you do with those aspects that makes the difference. I am not the last boyscout. But I do the best that I can with the people I come across in life. I know that what I'm doing is right for me.

 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 25 (view)
 
Where are all the good guys?
Posted: 1/4/2007 9:15:54 PM
May I answer this question ? Let me see if I can properly do this. I have been on and off of this site for about 8 months now. I have met and dated 3 people during that time. In all fairness and honesty to them, I liked all of them in different ways and still do. When I met someone and found opportunities to go out I would give them the full attention and chance they deserved and stayed off the site for the duration. We were mutually not compatible matches for a long term future so I have returned here, as well as a couple of other places and I am still searching. My current experience on those other sites has been equally reflected with what I am explaining below.

So here I am spending a significant amount of time searching through the profiles, and trying to find a reasonable match based upon my interests, wants and needs with that future goal in mind. I carefully picked out 15 or so people out of several hundred in my area that fit those general interests give or take a few things important with the idea of mutual chemistry in mind. I have composed thoughtfull emails to each of those persons . Not copied and pasted the same lame message to all; about the things I liked in their profiles that we have in common to start a conversation. Several were read and deleted with no response at all. the rest I will post below showing the server logged time and status of message. All of these have either gone unread or have been read with no response of any kind. I mean they obviously aren't even being given a second glance. these women are of various ages, body types, nationalities, locations, and common interests. Please in no way think that this is some kind of post in desperation either. I'm looking for my PARTNER FOR LIFE here. Do you think that is 10 minutes and one friendly message away ?

My profile is well written, articulate, and there are the site limit of photos placed with several that show good views of what I look like right now. One of them even shows me wearing a shirt dated October of 2006 only two months ago. I may not be Brad Pitt , but I am in good shape and I take care of myself. My photos certainly reflect that.

Where have the good men gone ? I know there has to be at least quite a few that are just being completely ignored. Why write so many in such a short span ? Take it a step further and then explain to me why I should take the time to write someone a two page message of sincere interest in them only to have it deleted without being read or never being read at all ? If I write to just one and wait for a week which has been done, then you are setting yourself up for failure obviously. Life is all about choices...

1/3/2007 745 PM Unread
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Patience is a virtue and patient I remain. I do believe however that I have answered the question at hand. There is someone out there. Are they here ? Good luck with that.
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 18 (view)
 
What is a womans idea of a good man?
Posted: 1/3/2007 9:04:10 PM
I've been wrong many times and I'm sure I'll be wrong another thousand times before it's all done with. I came to that realization a couple of years back and it seems to work really well everywhere. Work, home, wherever. It's not that hard to admit it....
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 38 (view)
 
What does your profile say about...
Posted: 1/3/2007 8:56:08 PM
I think that many of the profiles around here are too short. If you really want to connect with someone who fits your personality and has similar interests, what better opportunity than to give some detailed information about what you are looking for ? I look at many of these profiles and they tell me nothing substantial about the people listed. So what if you are really attractive in your photos. If I don't see some common ground how can I write you an intelligent conversation starter? What chance do you really have ? Trim the fat if needed, but fill in the blanks on what you want and what you like. If you're too specific on some things though you will scare some people away because you might come off as someone who will not be satisfied with anyone. I want to make a real connection. Give some information I say...
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Problems with sent messages. [Closed Thread]
Posted: 6/26/2006 3:25:44 PM
So I have been trying to contact a couple of users over the last few days, and my messages are not showing up in the sent box., despite the fact that I'm getting a message sent acknowledgement . I do not have anything in my profile that would refuse a send. So what is the deal ?
 fortunato814
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 9 (view)
 
I don't get it, what's wrong with me?
Posted: 3/16/2006 8:22:33 PM
Yeah you really do need to post photos. I see all of these profiles of people in my area, and you better believe I'm not going to hit up someone I can't see. But if you drive like Jeff Gordon you should be proud of it. Tomboys are cool to plenty of people. If you can install your own exhaust kit there are plenty of things your good at that someone will appreciate. Everything comes in time.
 
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