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 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Painful Blowjobs!
Posted: 1/12/2013 1:42:41 PM
yep. some of the ladies have an ability to deliver all kinds of great feelings and some go to to work on your noodle like they think its a punching bag. But most guys wont say a thing since its great to get any kind of attention good or bad.
Is it possible that the lady involved had a few drinks first? Maybe she was just a bit intoxicated? Scuffs and bruises have come from the bad ones.... But still not complaining!!!
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Dental issues
Posted: 1/6/2013 3:39:57 PM
there appears to be more and more people using "dental tourism" . If you are close to mexico you could search clinics that are legitimate and take a quick trip there since your location is down south? I am in Canada and people have started taking a weeks vacation and combining it with dental procedures due to the very low prices there. Do some searches and see if you cant find a cheaper way?
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Love Dolls
Posted: 12/30/2012 3:40:41 PM
cheaper than a divorce?!!!
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Am i being to Hard on him?
Posted: 12/30/2012 7:19:52 AM
With all the porn available and if a guy gets so lost in watching, it could be major trouble down the road. Real life sex isnt a porno. Body,s wont be perfect. Participants arent gods and goddesses. If porn is the spark for sex all the time its got to lead to issues.
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Everything happens for a reason?
Posted: 12/14/2012 5:00:06 PM
I wonder what the reason was for those 20 little kids to die at the hands of that madman? There is no plan or reason or destiny or anything else that our over active imaginations try to explain stuff..... Random stuff happens... sometimes good sometimes bad. Try to take care of each other and watch out for the lunatics.
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Natural remedies for high Blood pressure?
Posted: 12/14/2012 4:54:37 PM
not sure if its been mentioned but the D.A.S.H diet may be a good complimentary program to go along with doctoring stuff. I think lots of the supplement stuff is bogus because you may not be getting what you think you,re paying for in the pill. It has been shown that our friends in China have been supplying ingredients for the supplements and we all know how that stuff can "fluctuate"sometimes.
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Hostess brand closing..
Posted: 11/29/2012 6:35:33 PM
and now I see the managers are all getting bonuses??? So the company is bankrupt and over 15,000 workers are unemployed..... lets give the managers BONUSES!!!!! Kinda sounds like the same bankers who crashed the economy a few years ago moved into Hostess???
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Islam: The Untold Story
Posted: 11/4/2012 3:53:41 PM
But it seems Islam is the most violent and extreme and is always in the news with shocking stories of how the followers are prepared to do anything to strangers and even loved ones to advance this brand of religion...
this child died because somehow the religion is so controlling that the parent feels justified or correct to do this? We have had cases in Canada lately where parents killed ALL their kids because they wouldnt "submit"to the religion and you wonder why people think muslims are nuts?
"Mother murdered son for 'failing to learn the Koran' The Telegraph
A mother murdered her young son and set his body on fire when he struggled to learn the Koran off by heart, a court has heard. Sara Ege used a stick to beat seven-year-old Yaseen “like a dog” if he couldn’t recite passages from the Islamic text.
The beatings were so brutal that the boy died from his injuries, and his mother tried to burn the body to destroy the evidence, Cardiff Crown Court was told.
In a video recording of her interview with police, Mrs Ege told them: “I was trying to teach him the Koran.

“I was getting more and more frustrated. If he didn’t read it properly I would be very angry — I would hit him.
The court heard Mrs Ege, 32, a university graduate, and her husband, Yousuf, had enrolled Yaseen in advanced classes at their local mosque.
They wanted him to become a hafiz — an Islamic term for someone who memorises the Koran.
She also hit him with a hammer, a rolling pin and a slipper, as well as repeatedly punching him, the court heard."
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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what's your favorite kind of tea and why?
Posted: 10/26/2012 11:37:34 AM
Earl Grey or Chai tea. From Tetley of course! So many brands of Earl out there but not many taste as good. Keep it in a sealed container or you will lose some flavor!
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Penis Pride
Posted: 10/26/2012 10:52:08 AM
so the game is to try and find some kind of angle to get in the sack with the object of your affection..... guys learn to come up with stuff that gives them the best chance at getting it on.... We may "stretch the truth" a bit like maybe a fisherman bragging about how big his catch was but we are just trying to find a way to "connect". By the time the noodle comes out I would think the lady isnt going to say we lied and run away? Some kind of noodle is better than no noodle at all??
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Vitamin D deficiency
Posted: 10/21/2012 5:42:49 PM

my blood calcium levels were high for a very long time ... the cardiologist noticed and told me to tell my
family practitioner ... so I did ... had to argue because SHE wanted me to take additional calcium ... I told
her my cardiologist said I had too high a blood calcium level ... she refused to look at the labs until I
insisted ... THEN she finally ordered additional blood tests ...

to make a very long story somewhat shorter, turns out I have a tumor on one of my parathyroids and that
tumor was sucking the calcium out of my bones, causing osteoporosis ... clogging my blood veins and
kidneys with the calcium I needed in my bones! ... it could be surgically removed and may have to be
some time ... first, the surgery was set for September ... now, they're saying the 1st of next year ...

endocrinologist took over, put me on 50,000 units Vitamin D for 12 weeks then another 12 weeks ... my
blood calcium levels were almost normal at the time of my last labs ... based on the results of my next blood
test, I'm anticipating a reduction in the Vitamin D ...

had I taken the calcium the family practitioner wanted me to take would have made my entire situation
very much worse ... the endocrinologist told me NOT to take calcium in any form, other than naturally
through diet ...

my endocrine system is too delicate for me to mess around, taking supplements without medical direction ...
but that's just me and my body ...

WOW, that is amazing! So glad you got the right advice and are now making progress! I think a lot of medical people are so sure of themselves they are hard to get a second opinion thru! Good for you!
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Astrology
Posted: 10/21/2012 5:31:57 PM
If its good enough for Ronald Reagan and his wife then theres got to be something to it!!!!

ha ha ha...all total BUllSHITE. Just another stupid delusion like religion to feel there is some way to make sense of our totally random existence!
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Woman doesn't like penis's and semen, would you date her?
Posted: 10/21/2012 2:32:28 PM
there has to be something going on with her. She knows she is blowing up the chances of the relationship proceeding....
She should date only guys with zero sex drive then.... Very strange. This usually only happens after they put a ring on right?
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Electric Bikes
Posted: 10/17/2012 1:36:09 PM
I saw an e-biker riding his in a snowstorm last year with both legs stuck out like training wheels as he kept sliding all over the road as cars swerved to avoid the idiot. The only body protection some wear in the summer is sunscreen. Some have no shoes or have flip-flops on. Many use a 5 buck walmart bicycle helmets. They need some kind of testing...probably IQ tests too. That moronin the snow was seconds away from becoming road kill. I hope he signed his donor card. I have seen others ride on the road and when they hit a red light they zip onto the sidewalk and drive in the cross walk with pedestrians......
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Money Investing Suggestions Wanted
Posted: 10/15/2012 4:06:03 PM
the problem is that most new style pensions these days are "defined contribution" which means that the company puts a little money in the pot with the worker and then its is given to an investment company who invests it for the worker and charges all kinds of juicy fees no matter what the investment does. It is a ripoff designed to try and pump up the stock market and allow big investment groups to gather up new sheep for the slaughter. Defined contribution allows the company to have no responsibility for the workers pension.
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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What is your idea of heaven?
Posted: 10/11/2012 6:44:30 PM
i wonder where they keep the virgins......
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Money Investing Suggestions Wanted
Posted: 10/6/2012 2:14:31 PM
I have some mutual funds and they are pretty much a waste of time. They go up a bit, they go down a bit then I get hit with the "management fees" What a ripoff. Like was said earlier you could throwdarts at stock lists and get the same returns. The industry is set up to make the internal players rich not the clients. We are just grease for the wheels. But sticking money into GIC,s at 2.5% then paying tax on the gains is crazy also. If the government wants people to stop going into debt they should raise interest rates on bank savings and loans to stop more from going into debt. The only thing that will happen with cheap money is a housing bubble and stupid people buying crap they dont need on dirt cheap credit.
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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chrysler intrepid car question
Posted: 10/6/2012 2:02:01 PM
the car has long been sent to the dump. The 2.7 V-6 was a total piece of feces. Too bad because the body was solid. Chrysler had a bad reputation for easy theft back then but I think the chip keys are turning that around. Police forces said they were so easy to steal that kids would rip them off and run them out of gas then abandon them and steal one with a full tank and go joy-riding again.....
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Handjobs only...
Posted: 9/30/2012 8:43:23 AM
Sounds pretty strange....but make sure you remember to switch hands sometimes so you dont end up with an extremely muscular yanking arm!!! Gotta keep proportioned...could be a heck of a workout routine!
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Multivitamin advice
Posted: 9/29/2012 3:58:56 PM
How much you wanna bet lots of those expensive little pills have nothing but dust and trace amounts of random crap in them? A recent investigation found(as usual) that China has been supplying base ingredients full of the usual contaminants like rat poop/pee and other nasty stuff. Also even if you put all the right stuff in the pill how do you know it will be absorbed and be in the right form to do the same job as what you get from quality food? Lots of money is made with these magic pills but if we switched your pills with fakes how many would notice any difference?
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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ufo's
Posted: 8/11/2012 10:39:05 AM
With the advent of phones with cameras and the shear number of them out there you'd think that, if UFOs existed, as in, Alien space crafts then there would be literally millions upon millions of youtube clips regularly on the nightly news to prove beyond any doubt that we are having close encounters.

As this is not the case then I think, once and for all the UFO myth can be finally put to bed.

Similarly with ghosts, goolies, boogie men, the Lochness monster etc etc

CASE CLOSED!

decades ago when we got a steady diet from he-said-she-said stuff.....of all this dribble.. we could be convinced into believing it but now most people have a camera of some kind available 24-7.... and guess what? NUTHIN....NADDA......ZIPPO.......
If you want to find aliens then start building a big ass radio antenna and start listening or broadcasting .

I think there is intelligent life all over the universe but just not much here on Earth!
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Blue Highways - Your most memorable road trip(s)?
Posted: 7/22/2012 5:06:08 PM

I grew up deep in the mountains in nowhere land between Crested Butte & Aspen, Colorado. We had this rickety old wooden horse drawn sleigh. Red velvet interior with bells & oil lanterns hanging all around the exterior. The horse was totally decked out in red velvet & bells too. It’s mane & tail had been brushed & braided with red velvet ribbons winding through.

Our family tradition was to ride that sleigh to Aspen. We’d set out early Saturday morning all of us packed into the sleigh, with an extra horse tied to the back, packed down with supplies. We rode through the snow covered forest & mountain trails singing Christmas songs, drinking hot Dr. Pepper & eating home made Venison jerky.

We took our time, stopping to watch a herd of buffalo or elk. We had a favorite honey hole, where we always stopped to do some ice fishing for trout. We‘d cook up our catch then camp over night. My father was an excellent fisherman & always managed to hook at least 5 trout. (Not really, what I didn’t know was he had gone to the fish market, just incase.) Around the camp fire he would tell stories, made up bull chit stories about things that he claimed happened but never did. He had such a great imagination & a wonderful way with words it didn’t even matter if they were true or not.

At night we could hear the coyotes’ howl, eagles screech , an occasional owl, & every once in awhile a bear or mountain lion roar. At least that was what my father said they were. It would get cold, really cold so all of us would be wrapped up tight in one tent. It would take all day, one night & part of the next day to get to Aspen. Years later I found out it was only about 18 miles away. My father really stretched the trip out & made it memorable.

When we arrived in Aspen all eyes were on us. The rich city slicker tourists were absolutely mesmerized by the sleigh & must have thought we were something out of the past. They took pictures & paid my father to take them on sleigh rides. Aspen was amazing, all light up, fantastic restaurants, skiing by candle light at night. At one time I thought it was the North Pole where Santa Claus lived.

We’d spend the week there at a small cabin my father had built. During the day he would take tourists on sleigh rides. Us kids would explore the town, the mountain range, go ice skating or skiing. At night we’d go to the opera house & see the Nutcracker or a melodrama, usually Sweeny Todd, or attend the free concerts.

When the week was done we’d head back home, camping out, singing carols & making memories. At the time it was just routine to us, but now when the memories come back I think WOW, how cool was that!

that sound absolutely amazing. Like going back in time!
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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thinking about going topless.......
Posted: 7/22/2012 5:02:49 PM
a neighbor has a sebring and it looks nice but I wanted a stick and sporty without a honking huge V8 gas sucker. A saturn sky or a pontiac solstice sound good but they arent in production anymore and parts will dry up sooner or later.
The mitsubishi looks slick but I havent even thought about a mitsubishi!!??? I am hoping to pick one up newer used.
The MX5 mazda has been around for years and lots of clubs offer assistance. I must be getting old to consider gas mileage over power......sigh. Thanks for all the feedback, nothing like first hand experience!
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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thinking about going topless.......
Posted: 7/21/2012 6:11:30 PM
I mean getting a convertible. I am looking at the smaller ones like a miata or a saturn sky or a solstice or mitsubishi eclipse? A stick shift would be good too. I want it for fun, not for winning drag races. Anybody have one or got any experiences? I have heard the miata gets poor gas mileage and short range due to a small tank? British stuff any good?
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Money Investing Suggestions Wanted
Posted: 7/21/2012 9:59:31 AM
online banks like ALLY and ING could give you a bit more than most places for straight secure interest.
Mutual funds just seem to go up and down and get nowhere. Gold has already gone up and appears to be stalled. Maybe silver?
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
Msg: 15 (view)
 
The Problem With Cruises
Posted: 7/15/2012 12:34:06 PM
you cant bring and consume your own booze......sigh
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Thomas Mulcair can’t see the difference between Canada and Nigeria
Posted: 5/25/2012 1:53:34 PM
the ontario government is just a money for votes system. Large groups that voted as a block were rewared well.... The average worker has had the crap kicked out of take home pay. Teachers... health care .....hydro.....fire fighters...police......government workers.....all got more and more. Mcguimpy has stayed in power by dishing out truckloads of cash. The problem is now the cash is no more. Lets wait and see if these well paid blocks of votes keep turning out for him now that he cant pass them the cash. Doctors and teachers are already making noise.... The routine pay increases may be missing the next few years... and those massive indexed gold plated pensions could go the same way as some private sector unions found out...
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Would this happen?
Posted: 5/25/2012 1:38:01 PM
i doubt it will happen with regards to religion. There are so many versions of it and usually buried somewhere in their particular version of that good book it says to convert or kill the other followers of different versions..... So each group like any good business is told to get out there and reprogram the other guy.... or just kill em..... Look at the middle east.
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
Msg: 37 (view)
 
pain of sex
Posted: 3/25/2012 4:53:31 PM
alcohol is your friend!
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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AIDS court challenge
Posted: 2/13/2012 9:32:15 AM
so just because that time the partner didnt become infected with aids there is no crime?


Kind of like just because a drunk driver didnt kill someone they are off the hook?
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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AIDS court challenge
Posted: 2/11/2012 8:29:02 PM
a local person here in ontario had some mental issues along with aids and felt he didnt have to take pills to combat the bug and felt he was just fine sleeping around and not telling anyone so each situation is different. If you are gonna get intimate you MUST disclose it and if you dont you should be thrown in jail at the very least. Even the cost to society is a huge factor as resources would be diverted to try and manage this long term expensive problem due to twits who just want to get laid. Our medical system is buckling under standard stuff, we dont need this too.
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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clit sticking to leg
Posted: 2/9/2012 2:57:51 PM
I think in the name of science we really do need to see a picture of this thing....... for science....ya know.....to learn something.....and try to help out with advice and stuff.....
jus sayin..... just one pic.
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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man bashing time!!!
Posted: 2/9/2012 2:54:00 PM
I cant believe I couldnt spell "BASHING"........maybe men really are dumb
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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AIDS court challenge
Posted: 2/8/2012 2:34:56 PM
so here in Canada we have a group that is in the supreme court trying to change the laws so that a person with AIDS doesnt have to disclose it to a sex partner..... They argue that since AIDS is now pretty much a chronic disease managed by drug****ails its really not much of a big deal if someone gets in the sack with you and makes no disclosure. So why put that poor AIDS carrier through the stress of criminal trial if there is really not much of a chance they could infect a partner? And since the newly infected person probably wont die anyways then whats the big deal? I cant wait to see how our top judges decide on this one.........
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Has anyone had their lead fillings removed?
Posted: 2/8/2012 2:30:31 PM
I have a mouthful of the old style fillings and not enough money to remove them but now luckily my teeth are starting to fall out!!!!
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Bikers...Why they don't wave back to you
Posted: 1/30/2012 6:00:45 AM
man thats funny stuff! I try to wave at all bikers and for the record I ride a Kawasaki..... I dont do the wave for E-bikes though, they just dont qualify.
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Getting your water tested?
Posted: 1/26/2012 2:02:43 PM
get some kind of filter on your water supply where ever it comes from. I just dont want to rely on the potentially thousands of people who have to do the job right for water to stay as good as possible. Any half decent filter system cant hurt. If you get water from a big system who knows what kind of chemicals they are using to keep things in check.
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Sweet Poison
Posted: 1/20/2012 2:36:20 PM
specialty teas at Mcdonalds of all places...... any kind, any size, same price. Refreshing even when cold. Virtually No calories as far as I know.....
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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man basing time!!!
Posted: 1/18/2012 9:37:07 AM
For all those men who say, Why buy a cow when you can get the milk for free. Here's an update for you: Nowadays, 80% of women are against marriage, WHY? Because women realize it's not worth buying an entire pig just to get a little sausage.



1. Men are like Laxatives. They irritate the crap out of you.
2 Men are like Bananas .. The older they get, the less firm they are.
3. Men are like Weather ... Nothing can be done to change them.
4. Men are like Blenders You need one, but you're not quite sure why.
5. Men are like Chocolate Bars - Sweet, smooth, & they usually head right for your hips.
6. Men are like Commercials ... You can't believe a word they say.
7. Men are like Department Stores ... Their clothes are always 1/2 off!
8. Men are like .... Government Bonds ...... They take soooooooo long to mature.
9. Men are like ..... Mascara ... They usually run at the first sign of emotion.
10. Men are like Popcorn ... They satisfy you, but only for a little while.
11. Men are like Snowstorms ... You never know when they're coming, how many inches you'll get or how long it will last.
12! .. Men are like Lava Lamps ... Fun to look at, but not very bright.
13. Men are like Parking Spots All the good ones are taken, the rest are handicapped.

 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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The San Francisco Forty Niners
Posted: 1/15/2012 7:46:46 AM
that was an amazing game and proof again that you never turn it off or change the channel until theres zero on the clock. pats/broncos was ok but man san fran/saints was what NFL football aspires to deliver to the fan!!! FRIKKEN AMAZING GAME
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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losing erection
Posted: 1/11/2012 2:16:36 PM
a good BJ might be a starting point then work up to penetration? usually with a guys noodle we like as much handling as possible. A little light porn too?
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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2 Peas in a pod!
Posted: 1/7/2012 5:35:36 PM
maybe its a genital skin tag? They can come in all shapes and sizes?
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Girls Boobs vs Guys Packages
Posted: 1/6/2012 2:08:08 PM
i thought it was more important about the size of his bank account?
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Is Judas Iscariot in heaven?
Posted: 1/6/2012 8:20:21 AM
isnt the religion forum hidden in the general list?
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Measure up??
Posted: 1/6/2012 7:58:28 AM
I think many people do that. Relationships breakup for many reasons but sometimes lots of it was good and you miss it and wonder if you will find someone who can push the same buttons. Maybe we all get a bit messed up because we collect our hit list and expect to find oner partner will everything setting that bar pretty high?
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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car park meets
Posted: 1/6/2012 7:54:59 AM
isnt there another "activity" horny people do called "doggin it"? Where they advertise in social media a location and everyone shows up and has random sex or watches? I guess things like that happen someplace but not around where I live...
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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want some flame retardant with your gatorade?
Posted: 1/1/2012 4:28:46 PM

Bromides are also in most commercial baked goods, like bread. You did not mention that. There are a few companys that do not use bromides and volunteered to stop using them.
I think thats why the cancer rate is 1 in 3 in the USA.. is this. Bromides.

Brimodes also displace iodine in the body, as the receptor for iodine and bromides is the same. So its bad news all around.


thanks, great info. I didnt know about the bakery products but why would I be surprised bad stuff is in there too. I just found it ironic that sports drinks have toxins in them and we work so hard at exercising only to take in toxins to supposedly pursue our healthy lifestyle...... ya just cant win.
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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Mistakes of the inexperienced?
Posted: 1/1/2012 3:07:46 PM
just admit it and she will probably love the thought of de-flowering you. Also all the pressure is off her since anything she does to you will probably be freakin awesome so she will look/feel like a goddess to ya! You will make mistakes but I bet you will have a few repeats in you! If she dumps you then I am sure there would be a kind lady who could educate you from here????
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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want some flame retardant with your gatorade?
Posted: 1/1/2012 12:36:01 PM
As we work out we are taught to replenish fluids to keep healthy.... we are drinking a chemical banned all over the world. Or maybe suck up some mountain dew to fight the new years hangover? Enjoy your chemicals

"Brominated vegetable oil is patented as a flame retardant and it's banned in food all over Europe, England and Japan, but it's on the ingredient list of about 10 percent of sodas in the north america. It's not in coke, but is in Mountain Dew, Orange pop, and in some flavors of Powerade and Gatorade.
What brominated vegetable oil (BVO) does to soda is, "prevent the citrus flavoring oils from floating to the surface in beverages." The fruit flavors that are mixed into a drink would otherwise settle out. What BVO does when it's acting as a flame retardant is not much different: It slows down the chemical reactions that cause a fire.
The FDA established safety limits for the substance in the 1970s, but there are growing concerns that the limit was informed by reports put out by an industry group containing outdated and, as industry-generated information tends to be, less-than-comprehensive data.
After a few extreme soda binges — not too far from what many gamers regularly consume – a few people have needed medical attention for skin lesions, memory loss and nerve disorders, all symptoms of overexposure to bromine. Other studies suggest that BVO could be building up in human tissues, just like other brominated compounds such as flame retardants. In mouse studies, big doses caused reproductive and behavioral problems.
BVO was pulled from the Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS) list for flavor additives in 1970, "bounced back after studies from an industry group from 1971 to 1974 demonstrated a level of safety," at which point the Flavor Extract Manufacturers’ Association (which really exists—not to be confused with the government agency FEMA) "petitioned the FDA to get BVO back in fruit-flavored beverages, this time as a stabilizer, which is its role today."
Interim Approval -- For More Than 30 Years
Today, more than 30 years (and much animal testing, including on pigs and dogs) later, the approval status for BVO is still listed as interim. Changing that status would be expensive and quotes FDA spokesman Douglas Karas saying it "is not a public health priority for the agency at this time."
With BVO banned in so many countries, there are feasible alternatives. And that brings us to the unsurprising but disturbing note on which this story ends:

W. Thielemans, a chemical engineer at the University of Nottingham in the United Kingdom, said since the alternatives are already used in Europe "their performance must be acceptable, if not comparable, to the U.S.-used brominated systems." That means "the main driver for not replacing them is profit," he said.

"It is a North American problem," Vetter added. "In the E.U., BVO will never be permitted."
As usual big food and drink companys pad the profit while feeding us toxic crap.
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
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warren jeffs...(the prophet)
Posted: 12/31/2011 5:52:06 PM
So warren "the prophet" jeffs has gotten a bit pissed at humanity for being put in jail for no good reason..... and now says the end of the world is coming unless he gets out of jail!!! Also none of his followers are allowed to have sex til he is sprung too........ all very normal statements for a "prophet".....I guess
 
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