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 Platitude545
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Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 1/22/2019 7:10:13 PM
You rightists are missing one key fact....the guys were wearing MAGA hats...that is advertising yourself as being dumb and racist. Just like the KKK hood.

maintain the highest quality forums you are restricted to having no more then 2 of the last 10 posts on a thread.
Since 2 of the last 10 posts are yours you can not post to this thread.
 platitude545
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Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 1/22/2019 8:44:17 AM
^^^^^ John Zellie and you know this how? You just make stuff up with zero evidence to support...its no better than trump claiming "fake news" and the sheep buying into it. The Media has never been perfect of course...never will be...but having a free media is a heck of a lot better than not having a media and having instead a government sponsored media...under somebody like Trump..we would never get honest news in that case.

and by the way...the reason we are getting ALL SIDES of the incident with the Catholic School IS BECAUSE THE MEDIA IS REPORTING IT. You right wing nuts want to keep supporting that fraud of a man, it is absolutely your right to do so...but I like living in a Free Country with a Free Media....don't need you types who love your authoritarian daddy telling us we are not entitled to the free press.
 Platitude545
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Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 1/22/2019 7:54:30 AM
Johnzellie...you keep saying really stupid stuff. Who says you can't protest in favor of trump? You just don't like to be taken to task for doing so. Quit saying stupid stuff and people won't react as much.
 Platitude545
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Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 1/21/2019 10:37:50 AM
John, intentionally or not. You misrepresented what toobin said. He said tbe first quote:This is a bad day for the news media. Let’s not kid ourselves,” ...not this second one.. "The larger message that a lot of people are going to take from this story is that the news media are a bunch of leftist liars who are dying to get the president, and they’re willing to lie to do it.”

That second quote is just Faux news speak..

What toobin was saying is the buzz feed story feeds into what the low iq trump base alteady believed about the so called "fake" news media.

Of course how much validity to the buzz feed storym. Stay tuned.

True SS...its not like the Wall Street Journal is liberal, and the msm never protested bush taking us to war.
 platitude545
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Peace is euthinized by war, Kellyann conherway says opinions are now
Posted: 1/21/2019 9:42:55 AM
I am curious Justinelli....does your concern for human life go to the victims of terrorism promoted by Iran...or only to victims of US militarism.... perhaps the better question should be how come you are always promoting death to non-muslims? You have something against those who are not followers of Islam or the Islamic State? Should the US just close its eyes to the atrocities committed by these 12th century religious thinkers? Should we wait to act until after Iran develops a Bomb and attacks Israel or other States it does not agree with? Just curious how an Islam loving mind like your thinks.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/19/politics/state-country-terror-report/index.html

Thank God we have Israel doing our fighting for us and keeping tabs on these dangerous religious-nut countries.
 platitude545
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Peace is euthinized by war, Kellyann conherway says opinions are now
Posted: 1/21/2019 9:14:27 AM
Thanks for pointing this out Justinelli...it makes me think there is hope for Bolton yet...by the way..US is not a member of the International Court...so how could the US possibly be held to abide by its edicts? Is it your suggestion the US should subject itself to the whims of the Arab States? LOL...sure thing...


"The International Criminal Court unacceptably threatens American sovereignty and U.S. national security interests," Bolton told the Federalist Society, a conservative Washington-based think tank. Bolton also took aim at Palestinian efforts to press war crime charges against Israel for its policies in the West Bank, east Jerusalem and Gaza.

He said the U.S. would use "any means necessary" to protect Americans and citizens of allied countries, like Israel, "from unjust prosecution by this illegitimate court." The White House said that to the extent permitted by U.S. law, the Trump administration would ban ICC judges and prosecutors from entering the United States, sanction their funds in the U.S. financial system and prosecute them in the U.S. criminal system.

"We will not cooperate with the ICC," Bolton said, adding that "for all intents and purposes, the ICC is already dead to us."


https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2018/09/10/us-relationship-with-international-court-crashes-under-trump/

p.s. Justinelli...notice that I give my source...that is what intelligent people with integrity do...not like you, who try to hide, obfuscate and manipulate by your own editing.....you really are a guy who simply has no integrity...you are the last person who should be judging anybody else.
 Platitude545
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Peace is euthinized by war, Kellyann conherway says opinions are now
Posted: 1/21/2019 4:57:51 AM
You mix apples and oranges...bolton may well be a war monger...but what does "international law" have to do with anything? Yes absolutely, to hell with the international criminal courts. Did the US give up its sovereignty when i wasn't looking? Did israel give up its fundamental right to self defense and self prservation?
 Platitude545
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Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 1/21/2019 4:47:24 AM
John, journalism is dying? Roflmao. How could anybody but a trump supporter say something so stupid with a straight face? Nobody believes they always get it right if course, but usually close enough. Stay tuned.
 Platitude545
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Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 1/20/2019 12:19:15 PM
^^^you are a product of hate. If protesting against haters prevents more of you, the protests are well worth the effort. Given trump is a follower of Goebbels, i am not surprised you are a rabid trump supporter, nor am i surprised you are completely oblivious to trumps hateful dog whistles. Its amusing and sad that you completely fail to see you are filled with the attributes you claim to be against in the post above. You have always been a non critically thinking, hypocritical guy creature who complains about those who hurt others and yet you are supportive of so much hating going on. Yes, i am intolerant of aholes in the world pretending they are something other than what they are.
 Platitude545
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Peace is euthinized by war, Kellyann conherway says opinions are now
Posted: 1/20/2019 8:47:08 AM
You are confusing psychopathy with religion...such a confused guy you are. Religion, makes zealots...and when your religion, like Islam, teaches death and domination...and you uncritically accept death and destruction as part of your faith, that's what you do. Nothing to do with psychopathy, which is a mental illness.

Again why Israel such an important country...a balance against islam...a much needed balance in the mideast.
 Platitude545
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Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 1/19/2019 9:05:26 AM
I do give credit to John and a few others. Intelligent, yet non waveting in their support of trump. I think among them supporting trump is merely a game, and maybe a little to upset the far left nutsos here...you know..the cotters et. al.
 Platitude545
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Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 1/19/2019 9:01:50 AM
""""another poster who runs off any who disagree! the intelligent posters wont waste their time, left or right.""""

Nobody points a gun at anybody's head here. People who give up usually are not smart enough or knowledgeable to support their positions and they know it. Some people though are always wrong yet never give up, saying the same bs no matter what the facts show. Flick, ie ben afflick, ie bill a prime example. Then there are some who prattle on ceaselessly because they are nut...little rider, etc. Then there are the true trump supporters who will never get it. The less, generally, critical thinking among us.
 Platitude545
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Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 1/19/2019 5:59:46 AM
^^;i noticed that too....its a very vague denial, possibly denying the source of the leak to buzz field, not the actual facts about what trump directed cohen to do. We will have to be patient. Cohen testifies on the 7th
 Platitude545
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Time and experience influences an influential historian
Posted: 1/19/2019 5:01:42 AM
^^^^oh come on, ot is the iranian goverment calling for the destruction of israel...not necessarily its people.
 Platitude545
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Time and experience influences an influential historian
Posted: 1/18/2019 6:58:54 PM
"I feel sympathy for the Palestinian people, which truly underwent a hard tragedy. I feel sympathy for the refugees themselves. But if the desire to establish a Jewish state here is legitimate, there was no other choice. It was impossible to leave a large fifth column in the country. From the moment the Yishuv [pre-1948 Jewish community in Palestine] was attacked by the Palestinians and afterward by the Arab states, there was no choice but to expel the Palestinian population. To uproot it in the course of war.

"Remember another thing: the Arab people gained a large slice of the planet. Not thanks to its skills or its great virtues, but because it conquered and murdered and forced those it conquered to convert during many generations. But in the end the Arabs have 22 states. The Jewish people did not have even one state. There was no reason in the world why it should not have one state. Therefore, from my point of view, the need to establish this state in this place overcame the injustice that was done to the Palestinians by uprooting them."

No, Zionism was not a mistake. The desire to establish a Jewish state here was a legitimate one, a positive one. But given the character of Islam and given the character of the Arab nation, it was a mistake to think that it would be possible to establish a tranquil state here that lives in harmony with its surroundings."
 platitude545
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Questioning America First
Posted: 1/18/2019 1:36:26 PM
^^^ My gosh..clearly you are clueless about Islamic history....yes...they were actually more savage killers than the British Empire....

Just one small example:

Islamic Invasion Of India: The Greatest Genocide In History

https://blog.sami-aldeeb.com/2018/03/18/islamic-invasion-of-india-the-greatest-genocide-in-history/

Thank God for Israel.

Not of course that the extremist Muslims of today are any better...they just don't have the technology...yet...to cause the destruction they would like to cause:

http://teachmideast.org/articles/islamic-states-gruesome-muslim-death-toll/


And then there are actual facts:

+290 million victims of Islamic terror.

120 million Africans, according to Woman’s Presbyterian Board of Missions, David Livingstone, page 62, in 1888.



80 million Hindus, according to Koenard Elst, in Negationism in India, page 34. also Tarikh-i-Yamini , al-Utbi, Mahmud al-Ghazni's secretary and Ibn Battuta memoirshttp://www.scribd.com/doc/28014130/Moslem-Conquest-of-India-by-Will-Durant



60 million Christians, according to David Barrett and Todd Johnson, in World Christian Trends AD 30 to AD 2200, page 230. and by RaphaelMoore in History of Asia Minor



10 million Buddhists. [David B. Barrett, Todd M.Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-1.



And 220,000 Jews, just in one year, 1146, in Morocco, according to H. Z. Hirschberg, A History of the Jews of North Africa, 1974, page 127-28



Adding 17 million of Slave trade done and shipped to Islamic countries, Thomas Sowell [Thomas Sowell, Race and Culture, BasicBooks, 1994, p. 188] Historical survey> Slave-owning societies ". Encyclopædia Britannica.[ http://www.britannica.com/blackhistory/article-24156



] and http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/1523100.stm



And still goes on to this day



11 million muslims have been killed by the hands of muslims themselves since 1948, http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=why-golda-meir-was-right-2011-08-23





3 million bangladeshis were wiped out by the hands of muslims, Encyclopedia Americana (2003), Bangladesh andhttp://necrometrics.com/20c1m.htm#Bangladesh



and http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16207201



1.5 million Algerians massacred by islamists, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_War



1.5 million Armenians , according to http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6043730.stm



and http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkey-warns-of-reprisals-over-french-genocide-bill-6293713.html



750,000 Assyrians, according to “Native Christians Massacred”: The Ottoman Genocide of the Assyrians during World War I , Genocide Studies and Prevention, Volume 1, Number 3 / December 2006



500,000 to 1.5 Million Killed in Iran-Iraq War acording tohttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4260420.stm



1 million Greeks (+3 Million displaced) , according to "Greeks Hatzidimitriou, Constantine G., American Accounts Documenting the Destruction of Smyrna by the Kemalist Turkish Forces: September 1922, New Rochelle, New York: Caratzas, 2005, p. 2. - ALSO: The Genocide of the Ottoman Greeks: Studies on the State-Sponsored Campaign of Extermination of the Christians of Asia Minor (1912-1922) and Its Aftermath: History, Law, Memory. - ALSO: http://www.amazon.com/Genocide-Ottoman-Greeks-Extermination-Christians/dp/0892416157/ref%3dsr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323875017&sr=8-1



300,000 Ugandans killed in the 8 year rule of Idi Amin from 1971 according to http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8372250.stm



400,000 Darfurians according to "United humans Rights Council" http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/genocide/genocide-in-sudan.htm



and http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/15/AR2010101503871.html



70,0000 Kurds acording to, The Suppression of the Dersim Rebellion in Turkey (1937-38) Page 4



20,000 Syrians killed by Al-Assad Senior 1981 in according tohttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/15/opinion/friedman-like-father-like-son.html



10,000 Killed in Iran in 1988 for dissidence according tohttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/7811996/Mir-Hossein-Mousavi-involved-in-massacre-says-report.html



For 2010; 9,213 people were killed by the hands of islamists and 16,987 were injured, according to FBI, CIA. and http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/



For 2011; 9,068 people were killed by the hands of islamists and 16,900 were injured, according to FBI, CIA. and http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/



Totaling, since September 2001 to September 2012 has had approximately 19,600 terror attacks made by muslims.------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 platitude545
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Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 1/18/2019 10:34:18 AM
^^^ the problem also is trying to make a deal with Trump is like trying to make a deal with a slippery eel....he never keeps his word, always changes his mind. He could have had a border wall agreement long ago for DACA, but the man has no integrity..never good for an agreement...and wants everything his way.

Meanwhile Mitch won't even leave the possibility of a Trump Veto override.

In the end, the Republicans are the obstructionists and they are the ones who hopefully will be buried in 2020.

Wonder what the Repubs are going to say if there is actual credible evidence Trump ordered Cohen to lie to Congress...that's right...but the Fisa Warrants and Hillaries emails, as if there is some sort of equivalence between anything the dems may have done and the lying psychopath in chief.

And Million....if Little Red is right and you truly are KJ, I for one am very disappointed in you. I know as KJ you never had an opportunity to defend your support of everything Trump being constantly terminated...but I sure hope your defense of Trump was more than Fisa and everything Hillary. And if you are not KJ...let me apologize to KJ who I am sure still occasionally is reading this board.
 platitude545
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Questioning America First
Posted: 1/18/2019 10:23:51 AM
^^^there is some argument of course that the USA is filled with War mongers....but really...who is worse than the British Empire when it comes to war mongering, other than the Islamic nations of course...a religion of violence, who mandate death to the infidels (thank god for Israel in that part of the world --to take on the biggest threat to western civilization).

If you think about how England totally screwed up the 20th Century. If the victors in that worthless World War 1 had treated Germany decently, instead of starving millions of its people, confiscating its property, putting onerous financial obligations on the country, Hitler would have never taken route and World War 2 never would have happened.

If World War 2 never would have happened, Israel never would have been created due to the holocaust...and the US would have been fine living a life of isolation, never would have involved itself in Korea, Vietnam, etc. ....USSR never would have occupied parts of Western Europe, Alqueda never would have existed, etc.

So much wrong with the world can be laid directly at the feet of the British Empire.....because that empire is the cause of many of the problems we now have.
 Platitude545
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Hawkings was wrong about the non-existence of God.
Posted: 1/18/2019 7:10:12 AM
What you are essentially saying Norwegian is that we assume a personal god when if there is a god, he may be indifferent to man. Since there is no evidence of a personal God, you are of course correct.
 Platitude545
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Hawkings was wrong about the non-existence of God.
Posted: 1/16/2019 7:39:10 PM
^^^^million is not Kim....far too non-humerous of a personality for
kim. good try though.

Initia...there is nothing sacred about arguing the existence of God. Its not for everybody of course...but a fair topic for debate. Religion mlm in practice can be very devisive of course when practiced by extremists.
 Platitude545
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Hawkings was wrong about the non-existence of God.
Posted: 1/16/2019 7:08:59 AM
Oh yes, an honorable mention goes to babbling funchesf...who left suddenly in the middle of this thread more than a year ago..very sad but still laughing about that one.
 Platitude545
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Hawkings was wrong about the non-existence of God.
Posted: 1/16/2019 7:05:02 AM
Since i am the op of this thread, i would mention that a healthy dose of skepticism is good too. I suggest reading dawkins, hitchens and Hawking on the creation of the universe. There is no heaven, no hell, no personal god. What there is, if anything, we don't know.

I take contrary opinions on here in the face of the jovans, franks and other know-it-alls.
 platitude545
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Peace is euthinized by war, Kellyann conherway says opinions are now
Posted: 1/14/2019 10:14:14 AM
^^^^ I get how pointing out you are a terrible person makes me your target...but you can't get much worse than a holocaust denier....course your accusing Jews of calling gentiles "cattle" said everything about you before you even denied the Holocaust. That makes you a total piece of cr^p......but we already knew that about you didn't we.

You live in La La land if you don't believe people know exactly who and what you are...but for those who didn't...I just wanted to make sure there was no question about it.

I don't know why KJ took pity on you...I guess it was the poor me....I have night tremors shtick....but that still does not explain your depraved mind does it?

Am I superior to you? Absolutely...but virtually anybody here is superior to a piece of dung.
 platitude545
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Peace is euthinized by war, Kellyann conherway says opinions are now
Posted: 1/14/2019 7:45:17 AM
Justinelle, Little Red and LGL got me thinking about why people buy into conspiracy theories and why people support Trump?

Didn't have to search for long:


10. Trump’s Conspiracy Theories Target the Mentally Vulnerable

While the conspiracy theory crowd — who predominantly support Donald Trump and crackpot allies like Alex Jones and the shadowy QAnon — may appear to just be an odd quirk of modern society, some of them may suffer from psychological illnesses that involve paranoia and delusions, such as schizophrenia, or are at least vulnerable to them, like those with schizotypy personalities.

The link between schizotypy and belief in conspiracy theories is well-established, and a recent study published in the journal Psychiatry Research has demonstrated that it is still very prevalent in the population. The researchers found that those who were more likely to believe in outlandish conspiracy theories, such as the idea that the U.S. government created the AIDS epidemic, consistently scored high on measures of “odd beliefs and magical thinking.” One feature of magical thinking is a tendency to make connections between things that are actually unrelated in reality.

Donald Trump and media allies target these people directly. All one has to do is visit alt-right websites and discussion boards to see the evidence for such manipulation.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201812/complete-psychological-analysis-trumps-support?fbclid=IwAR29R3V7j4HoDgOCXn1BtyIVGis8FW_rK9XiEoIfFMXl8ZqFS2J5h_HD8AM
 Platitude545
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Peace is euthinized by war, Kellyann conherway says opinions are now
Posted: 1/13/2019 4:08:07 PM
"But just ****ing barely"

Which is why GT, a university education is important. The quality of a HS education varies all over the country, even in the same community. At the university level, hopefully a student developes more critical thinking skills, a more open mind. Its not a quirk that much of the trump base consists of the less educated...obviously that group is the most easily manipulated. They also tend to be bigots and people who easily buy into conspiracy theories, the alex jones groupies, the 9-11 was an inside job crowd.

Regardless, i find dealing with those with a college education almost always results in dealing with more competent people for the job.

Trump, i am convinced. is doing everything he can to hurt the country...appointing the wost possible people. Reagan simply bought into the trikle down theory which has been proven false. He did to his credit raise taxes twice after his massive tax cuts to try to stem the damage. Trump trying to stem the damages from his tax cut is an impossibility. He would pass another cut if he could, but for the house.

By the way eithimism vs euphemism = idiot.
 platitude545
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Peace is eithimism for war, opinions are now facts. and fake is real news
Posted: 1/11/2019 2:53:20 PM

The dumbing down of the education system, or educating the population into ignorance HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH as "BLAMING JEWS"


Its not a hard leap to believe you were/are blaming the jews given many of your other antisemitic posts and your vague reference to who was responsible. Regardless, your opinion that education is being intentionally dumbed down is just nonsensical conspiracy theory talk..akin to believing the moon landing was faked. There can be legitimate discussions about the best way to educate our children, but you conspiracy freaks are really way out there.

Besides, you know nothing of the US education system....how could you. You read crap on consipiracy cites and assume it to be true... and of course rather than being the conspiracy freak you are believing in non facts...those who don't agree with you are "brainwashed".....

you are right about one thing...there is a lot of non-critical thinking out there.....

By the way, you should tell the mostly leftist...liberal professors in the United States that they are part of a great conspiracy to dumb down the population.....they would be aghast that they were playing that role ...LOL


Great discourse justinelle..


Sure...if you are a conspiracy buff. We need LGL to join the discussion...then we would have the three stooges pontificating about nonsense stuff.


There is a stalking troll
...yes you did stalk me as screwed up n eight in the Israeli thread, than as Hopeless nutcase you sought me out, let me know who you were, to ensure I knew you were stalking me, and now as little read rider you feign innocence...sure thing Hopeless.


It's so funny she called me a white supremacist for years without realizing I'm not even white.
Talk about ignorance, intolerance, and open bigotry.


Lets see...you have no photo...you are an extremely ignorant man, you are an anti-semite who claims Jews see non jews as nothing more than cattle, you challenged the authenticity of the holocaust, and you hate Israel and want to see it destroyed.....if it walks like a duck..it is not a great leap to believe you are a white supremecist? White or not, you are still an ignorant, bigoted, ahole..albeit a brain damaged one.

Now you have ancestors living in Gaza? Just who are your ancestors? Are you of Palestinian/Arab descent? Is that why you hate the Jews and accuse them of the most vile things...all while denying the holocaust? Figures... a no integrity hater...but at least you have motivation for your hate.

Look Little Red...despite your claim to a 160 IQ...we both know I am far smarter than you are...it was funny when you once tried to show you were some sort of lawyer...you can never beat me in the game of logic....keep playing your mindless, unintelligible, free association word games as if anybody cares. KJ is no longer here to tell you poor you...no body cares that you see yourself as a victim...they see the same ahole I see.... I just call them as I see them... and i see you for the hater you are...and Justinelle for the plagiarizing conspiracy freak he is...sorry if truth bothers you.
 platitude545
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Questioning America First
Posted: 1/11/2019 12:23:39 PM
^^^ I know with your cut and paste mentality...this is beyond you...but the concept of Free Speech simply means you can swing your arms as you choose until you touch the tip of my nose...then you have gone to far.

Now this may amaze you, but your opinion of Free Speech is MERELY YOUR OPINION...and since you have proven yourself clueless and nothing but a plagiarizer over the years, and worse, don't even live here....your opinion doesn't carry a whole lot of weight.

Will people disagree about what congress does? Well yea sure...but in the end..issues of free speech are decided by the Courts and since its been going on for forty years now...per Callip's research...you can be pretty sure nothing is going to change. Congress is going to punish those who use their antisemitism to band together in an attempt to cause economic harm to Israel...you can complain on here about it...you may even understand a little portion of what it is that you post...but you don't get to decide what is a violation of Free Speech...ultimately that is up to the US courts who interpret the US Constitution...not some plagiarizing, angry, burn the place down english guy ...and for the last forty years...the courts don't agree with you.

Regardless, your post seems to make it seem like this is a really big deal to you....well guess what justinelle, just like your co-israel hating english chap Jovan, you can hate all you want...but you can't do anything about it but b^tch. Keep on B^tchin for all the good it will do you. Your antisemitic Continent is the reason that Israel exists and remains strong...if it wasn't for your defective genetics over there...allowing for the holocaust, things would have been different.
 platitude545
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Eternal recurrence by Nietzsche
Posted: 1/11/2019 9:24:47 AM
^^^ eternal recurrence would be a bad thing for you Little Red.....at the least you would hope if you relived your life, you could do it without so much babbling. It must be difficult to live a life where nonsensical free thoughts come out of your mouth and nobody ever knows what you are talking about.
 platitude545
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Questioning America First
Posted: 1/11/2019 9:20:31 AM
^^^ there is zero reason why Congress should not pass anti-boycott legislation. As the largest economy in the world for now....we can make a huge difference...and really anti-boycott legislation is similar to sanctioning another country for its, what we consider to be, poor behavior. It is very difficult to believe any Federal Appellate Court will indicate Congress does not have the right to do so under the Constitution, any more than the Courts could limit the right to impose sanctions. Its not going to happen.

As for Free speech...these people can keep expressing their contempt for other nations all they choose...but if they take a step to damage those countries on an economic basis...why would any body not think the US would not have the right to respond in like kind? The authors from whom Justinelle plagiarizes his material are spitting into the wind.
 platitude545
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Eternal recurrence by Nietzsche
Posted: 1/10/2019 3:37:34 PM
Hardships can make people stronger if they overcome them....but its not hardships as much as many people live lives of quiet desperation as the saying goes. I still wonder how many people would choose to live their lives over and over again...with no change...the same thing for eternity.

Or perhaps we all live the lives of everybody else...given enough time, we could all live some 15 billion lives or whatever it is, which would bring new meaning to the concept of treat your neighbors like you would yourself.
 platitude545
Joined: 10/2/2018
Msg: 4 (view)
 
To Their Witlessness
Posted: 1/10/2019 3:33:02 PM
old news DDsearle...we now have a sexual molester on the US Supreme Court. Nothing can be done about it. Ford of course will go down as another victim...just like Anita Hill..who everybody now knows was telling the truth about Clarence Thomas.
 platitude545
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Msg: 9 (view)
 
Peace is euthinized by war, Kellyann conherway says opinions are now
Posted: 1/10/2019 3:23:09 PM
GT...maybe you can distill down into understandable English what this Plagiarizing conspiracy freak is trying to tell us...am I getting this right...is he blaming the Jews for some vast plot to dumb down education for the masses so they can take over the world?
 platitude545
Joined: 10/2/2018
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Questioning America First
Posted: 1/10/2019 3:16:20 PM
So lets expand on your being an idiot:


1) The newly elected United States Congress, in the midst of the shutdown has chosen to pass a new bill aimed at both punishing free speech violating that constitutionally protected right under the First Amendment.


LOL....there you ago again ...pontificating about Free Speech...something that does not exist in your world..... That's what Congress does in our country...writes laws...dufas.


2) When one controls the language people can use, then one controls how people think, as well as what they think about


More dufustry......how is the language of anybody being controlled? Wish Joe were here so he could explain to you how moronic you were.


As to why this is happening, and what the point of constricting, well it obvious its all about social control.


Isn't it sad how legislative bodies get to write laws that "control" behavior.


Why is increasing control necessary? Well we are involved in a process where impoverishing our populations is seen as necessary, Which create stress on the mites.


I see, you are a conspiracy freak too...are you an LGL clone by chance?


The point of Enlightened Elites is to allow the lost and disorientated mass of individuals to follow their betters obediently, where their future and their children’s future is designed to experience increasing impoverishment. Nothing like creating an atmosphere where individuals worry about their personal futures from a daily basis onwards.


There goes that plagiarizing again. You can tell...because you copy the words of authors who think very highly of themselves and therefore are incapable of writing in normal english.


Meanwhile while the Western Developed Democratic World sinks slowly into the mire of increasing poverty, we can all look at the draconian ideology of China, where over 800 million have already been taken out of poverty and by 2020 the whole 1.3-4 billion will have all been rescued from the fate the developed Democratic Western Superior World in sinking into.


Clearly the author you plagiarized should read up on the tottering Red Ponzi economy known as Red China.


Restoring the natural balance where once the unwashed crawled out of the filth of the Feudal Age of serfdom and slavery are returned back to the natural order of knowing their respective places in the filth they dared to emerge from in the first place.


Its hard to believe somebody actually writes this kind of crapola in the 21st century....unwashed [masses] crawling out of the filth of the Feudal Age..LOLOLOL...excuse me... I can't help but laugh at this language.


Let us hope this year is the beginning of this realisation of mass poverty for most of the First Worlds Superior populations with the accompanying social unrest and authoritative repression of smashing skulls by fellow countrymen dressed up in official uniforms we all like to see on TV.


I'm guessing you don't have the IQ to even understand what it is you are plagiarizing. If you did...you would be embarrassed to post the drivel you always are posting...like the above sentence
 platitude545
Joined: 10/2/2018
Msg: 8110 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 1/10/2019 11:56:40 AM
real facts? Since when to Trumpsters pay attention to facts...too complicated for them to follow . . .but here they are: per David Stockman



As to the alleged hordes of menacing immigrants...
The 310,000 unauthorized immigrant apprehensions at the southwest US border in 2017, in fact, represented a 78% plunge from the level in the year 2000. And when it comes to Mexican migrants, the decline has been nearly 90%.

Likewise, there is no evidence of crime spilling over the borders. To the contrary, on three leading measures of crimes per 100,000 population in 2017, the counties which border Mexico have lower rates than for the rest of the US.

For example, there are 3.4 homicides per 100,000 in the border counties compared to a 5.2 per 100,000 rate in the rest of the US.

In the case of the property crime rate, it is 2,207/100,000 in the border counties and 2,256/100,000 in the rest of the country. And when it comes to all violent crimes including assault, battery rape, muggings etc the rate is 348/100,000 in the border counties and 379/100,000 in the rest of the nation.

Indeed, on the crime flowing over the border file, the Donald pulled a downright fast one in his speech. He cited ICE arrest statistics, which suggested that 66% of these cases involved illegals who had previously been convicted of a crime----and in many cases violent ones.

But here's the thing. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency (ICE) doesn't patrol the borders!

For better or ill, it is in the deportation business, and as a matter of operating procedure targets likely criminals for its raids and arrests throughout the interior of the USA. That is, there is an inherent high criminal ratio in the ICE arrest statistics because that exactly what its mission entails.

By contrast, it is the Border Patrol which picks up illegals along the border. For the year 2018 through August 31, it apprehended 361,993 undocumented immigrants, but only 6,259---or 1.7%---had a prior criminal record according to Border Patrol data.

Moreover, 3,600 or 58% of these criminals were actually circular criminals. That is, they had previously been convicted of illegal entry into the U.S. (a misdemeanor) or reentry (a felony). Another 1,000 had been convicted of driving under the influence of alcohol.

In fact, among last years 361,993 apprehended illegal border crossers, there were only three convictions for manslaughter, which implies a rate per 100,000 that is 75% lower than for the general US population; and a total of 506 convictions for assault, battery or domestic violence, which also implies a rate far below the US average. . . .,

Finally, there is the Donald's claim that "people are pouring into our country, including terrorists.”

Purportedly, that means the border crisis implicates national security, and is therefore the basis for declaring a national emergency, if Congress remains recalcitrant.

But that's were the Fake Crisis is really a crock.

To wit, according to a detailed study by the Cato Institute, between 2007 and 2017 the border patrol apprehended 5,295,000 undocumented immigrants. During that period, about 63 countries were designated by the Department of Homeland Security and other intelligence agencies as "specially designated countries" or "countries of interest" owing to their having "shown a tendency to promote, produce or protect terrorist organizations or their members".

As it happened, 5,250,000 or 99.15% of these apprehensions were of persons not from these terrorist prone countries.

Moreover, of the 45,000 apprehended over 10 years from the 63 countries on Washington's terrorist lists, about 17,000 were from India, 13,000 from Brazil, 2,500 from Bangladesh and 2,900 from Nepal---all countries that do not immediately come to mind as burgeoning safe harbors for jihadist terrorists.

On the other hand, detainees from Iraq (101), Afghanistan (102), Saudi Arabia (97), Yemen (68) and Syria (64) accounted for only 0.1% of all detainees; and as it happened, none of them had actually been involved in plots to commit acts of terrorism on US soil.

In fact, for the entire 42 year period between 1975 and 2017, the Cato study showed that there had been zero people murdered or injured in the US by foreigners who came across the U.S. borders illegally; and of the seven illegal entrants who had just planned or plotted attacks which didn't actually happen, none came across the Mexican border:

Zero people were murdered or injured in terror attacks committed on U.S. soil by special interest aliens who entered illegally from 1975 through the end of 2017. However, seven special interest aliens who initially entered illegally have been convicted of planning a terrorist attack on U.S. soil. They all entered illegally from Canada or jumped ship in American ports before the list of special interest countries even existed. None of them successfully carried out their attacks and none illegally crossed the Mexican border.
 Platitude545
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Msg: 16 (view)
 
Questioning America First
Posted: 1/9/2019 7:38:29 PM
^^:like i said...he speaks gobbledygook and shows himself to be a clueless, ignorant wonder. At least now recognizing he is from uk..his clueless at least is somewhat understandable.


 Platitude545
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Msg: 55 (view)
 
Interstate Or Intrastate Migration
Posted: 1/9/2019 7:30:14 PM
^^^actually, some of the top experts in the world think the trump tariffs are a big mistake, will simply cost american consumers more while driving business to other low cost producers like vietnam or mexico who will raise prices enough to just undercut the cost of the tarrifs on china.

Additionally, tariffs on a world wide basis were pretty much in Equilibrium until trump, on a whim, without any well thought out policy or reason has mucked up the system.

And china is being hurt, its economy dramatically slowing. If china goes down, it will take the world economy with it.
 platitude545
Joined: 10/2/2018
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Questioning America First
Posted: 1/9/2019 3:28:17 PM
^^^^ you don't have the foggiest idea what is going on in the United States....you likely are clueless about what is going in Europe. A close reading of your posts, like the one above..indicates it is nothing but "gobbledygook".


"The Ruling Elites demonstrate their priorities towards their own populationi"...
you do know how to speak english right? Do you think writing in this flowery language somehow makes you appear smarter than you are? Why not simply say...the Elite push their own self interests..like with tax cuts. Easy and accurate and not at all somehow hidden from the people.

"
Again I would stress that the point is how the American people are prioritised by the ruling and political elites."
...nonsensical and essentially a meaningless sentence.


"The political representatives demonstrate that voters are at best a cash cow, just to be milked for taxes, and otherwise an irrelevance or inconvenience"
... More meaningless nonsense and also shows a profound ignorance of the US tax system....where the bottom 50% pay virtually nothing towards income taxes and where...wait for it...the elites actually pay most of the tax money going to the treasury...although strong arguments can be made they should be paying much more.


if the poor cannot afford bread, let them eat cake instead, and we all know what happened to the person that was attributed to.

Well its good to know you live somewhere in England because your ignorance knows very few limits....pontificating constantly about things you know nothing about, pretending that you do....hint...look up the US Food program. Where do you get this stuff from...are the poor eating "cake" in England? I find that hard to believe given how much of a welfare State it has become.


Where once, people who did not think as they should, were burned or lynched in public, now its the modern version, job losses and public vilification, so even speech is not quite so free.
You are kind of like little red rider where free thoughts just pour into your posts, no matter how meaningless they are. We've had a few lynchings in the country.....but for the most part has nothing to do with "free speech" and far more to do with black ...white relations. As for public vilification...gee isn't that too bad that people are held accountable by others for the things they say...again...its called free speech...you don't like it too damn bad.

Now I get you really have no independent thoughts of your own...copying all of your ideas from other sources...but it would really be nice if you tried to make some sense of what you were trying to post and tried to say something understandable instead of the meaningless drivel you typically post on here.
 platitude545
Joined: 10/2/2018
Msg: 28 (view)
 
vegan being passive aggesive
Posted: 1/9/2019 1:08:19 PM
^^^ Do you have any clinical studies you can source for this opinion? I've always heard vegan is healthy so long as you get the proper amount of proteins and complex amino acids, which isn't that hard for Vegans to do. Being lean does not equate to being scrawny. Obviously if you want to bulk up and maintain significant muscle mass, y0u are going to need a fair share of protein and the vegan diet probably won't cut it...but bulking up is not necessarily healthy either...especially if it helped along with steroids or all of the junk you can buy at your local health store. Note...I've never been vegan and have had my period where I was lifting weights and was strong as an ox...when I was young anyway...so just telling you what I understand on the health front here.
 platitude545
Joined: 10/2/2018
Msg: 53 (view)
 
Interstate Or Intrastate Migration
Posted: 1/9/2019 10:42:37 AM
Constitutional law expert and Harvard professor Lawrence Lessig dismissed President Donald Trump’s characterization of the immigrant situation at the Mexican border as a crisis on Sunday, then said the real national emergency was “this president.”

Asked about Trump’s threat to declare a national emergency on the southern border so that he can order his wall built without congressional approval, Lessig told MSNBC: “The man is using words that have no connection to reality.”

“He says we have a national crisis ... a national emergency. I agree we have a national emergency, but the emergency is this president,” Lessig added. “The emergency is the fact we don’t have an executive who’s exercising his power in a responsible way.”

Lessig said the president can’t build his wall without the backing of Congress.

“Ultimately he has no constitutional authority to exercise the power to build this wall without Congress’ approval,” Lessig said. “These statutes were certainly not written with the intent to give a man like Donald Trump the power that he’s now claiming.”

In an opinion piece Lessig published in The Guardian on Friday, he said the Constitution would not uphold the actions of a president who shut down the government to insist on a program that was not supported by the public. Lessing referred to the situation as a “veto-ocracy,” ruled by “petulance” rather than “principle.”

If the Republicans support Trump in this, they are saying that any president can “support whatever policy he likes,” including, say, to nationalize health insurance.

“The fools are they who enable this constitutional immorality,” Lessig wrote. “Those fools are the Senate Republicans, who have placed party over country, and President Trump over the Republican Party.”
 platitude545
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Msg: 12 (view)
 
Questioning America First
Posted: 1/9/2019 9:18:07 AM
^^^ I am happy for any support Israel can get from anyone...but I don't like the idea of distilling it down to because the US says so. It is true that Truman was the first world leader to recognize the State after it declared its independence. But Israel fought its own wars albeit with US weapons, and won through its own bravery and strategy against overwhelming odds given the size of the Arab armies. I don't want to detract from this essential fact.

As for whether Israel could survive without the US....that is really a difficult question. Obviously US support is a huge benefit...but lets say an anti-Israel President was elected and turned off all Israeli support supported by Congress. What would happen to Israel then? Since Israel does possess hundreds of nuclear weapons, I would opine that any country who tried to extinguish Israel would be committing National suicide...so not sure how this would all play out. Israel grows its own crops...has a vibrant defense industy, medical industry, techonological industry, etc. Additionally, some of its Arab neighbors are now cozying up to Israel as security from the extremists out there...so its really complicated. Who knows how this all ends. World War 3?

I defend Israel because I can not stand the simple minded BS from people like Cotter...jovan....Justinelli, etc. Israel benefited from the defeat of the Ottoman Empire.......and seized the opportunity it had to reclaim its homeland. The Arabs have been trying to destroy Israel since then. The Palestinians have its charter the destruction of Israel. The Palestinians didn't seem to mind when Jordan had annexed the West Bank...but the Jews? no way. So yea... I fight against the people here who claim Israel has no right to exist and now that it does exist, has no right to defend itself, and that in the end is what all of these antisemites say....and make no mistake about it....the Israel haters are absolutely and unequivocally anti semites. Cotter ragged on for year after year here bitching about Israel defending itself.......Jovan too. Fuk them.
 platitude545
Joined: 10/2/2018
Msg: 8104 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 1/9/2019 9:03:29 AM
^^^^ agree. This is all very simple... we have a pathologically lying President driven by massive ego instead of logic or reason. He also has a significant personality disorder and so lacks empathy. The Dems got it right...this is all about Trump having a Temper Tantrum, and it is very dangerous to allow the man to shut down the government just so he can get what he wants from Congress....especially this man. Caliop....is simply full of herself...unable to see the forest through the trees and the damage this fraud of a man is causing to the country. Talk about a lack of critical thinking ability....she represents that lack of ability among Trump supporters.
 platitude545
Joined: 10/2/2018
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Questioning America First
Posted: 1/9/2019 8:59:04 AM
Huh???? did you invent this cause we say so sayism out of thin cloth? Israel exists regardless of what we say...actual facts are not dependent on what we say either. Subjectively....you can have an opinion about whether Israel should exist but from a factual matter it does exist. Israel does not exist to protect US oil interests in the world...although it plays that role. Israel exists because the Jewish People, after being decimated by antisemitism and the holocaust, rightly or not, fought for what they considered its historical homeland and they have been fighting ever since. Israel's existence doesn't even depend on the US for legitimacy at this point....

"cause we said so-ism has nothing to do with it. As the World's super power who considers Israel an essential ally, the US has the right to attempt to protect its interests against the rest of the primarily anti-semitic world. Arguments about Free Speech, etc. are in the end dependent on the whims of the US Court...so far the Courts (regardless of a few rogue District Courts) do not buy the Free Speech argument. End of story....why make this out to be more complicated than it is?
 platitude545
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Msg: 4 (view)
 
Eternal recurrence by Nietzsche
Posted: 1/9/2019 8:46:19 AM
^^^^ I think the point is that life is very hard for many people and they would rather simply not exist rather than live that life again and go through the same hardships, especially over and over again for eternity per the theory of eternal recurrence . I suppose how you answer the question is a reflection with how happy and content you have been with the life you have lived up to this point. It is a comment on the Human struggle.
 platitude545
Joined: 10/2/2018
Msg: 8102 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 1/9/2019 8:25:09 AM
^^^ All you had to do was listen to the news last night as the lies were rattled off....quit playing innocent here...you sound just like the typical Trump supporter who claims that Trump does not lie or who demands evidence of his lies. I've seen Trump supporters who claim he never lies....that its all the fake media who is lying.

Your whole premise is BS and if that means I am being vulgar by pointing it out, so be it. If it walks like a duck...and all of that stuff.

Trump's reasons for a wall are demonstrably false...any attempt to justify that wall is based on demonstrably false reasoning...is that really so hard to understand? Only for Trump supporters who don't care about actual facts and objective evidence.
 Platitude545
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Msg: 8100 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 1/9/2019 7:41:38 AM
please Calliop...you are full of sh^t. We call him a liar because everything the man says and does stems from the fact he is a con man of epic proportions. He manufactured a crises out of nothing so any thing he says to support this non crises is a fraud on the people. You can come up with all of the justifications in the world to support the grifter...he is still a fraud of a man. Its sad how you all support the guy. Million claims the wall is needed to stop all of that human traffiking, which is probably no more than .0001 % of the traffic crossing the border. The argument we need a wall in the first instance is a lie. Any excuses to justify the wall are lies too because they stem from a big lie.
 Platitude545
Joined: 10/2/2018
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Eternal recurrence by Nietzsche
Posted: 1/8/2019 6:12:48 AM
Eternal return is a theory that the universe and all existence and energy has been recurring, and will continue to recur, in a self-similar form an infinite number of times across infinite time or space. Wikipedia

Would you want to live your life over and over again..with no change, but no memory of your previous lives, or would you rather not exist at all?
 platitude545
Joined: 10/2/2018
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Struggling with accepting demise
Posted: 1/7/2019 10:16:45 AM
Or as Barbara Streisand might say:


If we had the chance to do it all again
Tell me, would we? Could we?
 platitude545
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Msg: 19 (view)
 
Struggling with accepting demise
Posted: 1/7/2019 10:07:22 AM
^^^^ I think the better question is, if as Friedrich Nietzsche speculates, there really was eternal recurrence, and you had to live your same life over and over and over for eternity..without change...would you want to? My guess is most people have made so many mistakes in their lives, suffered so much hardship ... that they might say no. Me... I just feel an overwhelming sense of tiredness just thinking about it.....and yet my life as a whole as been more successful than most, a good childhood with lots of love. I would like to relive my youth...see my parents again...old girlfriends....but geeze...so much angst along the way.
 platitude545
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Msg: 7 (view)
 
Questioning America First
Posted: 1/7/2019 8:53:40 AM
^^^ I never noticed Justinelli was from the UK...maybe that helps to explain why he posts such stupid stuff....


So far, two federal courts have ruled that punishing companies or individuals who boycott goods produced in Israel violates constitutionally-protected rights under the First Amendment.


Federal District Court rulings have very limited precedential value until adapted by a Federal Appeals Court....

I have no issue with the bill myself.............I kind of like it.
 platitude545
Joined: 10/2/2018
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Struggling with accepting demise
Posted: 1/7/2019 8:37:22 AM
I think knowledge that we will die effects everybody but in different ways...some may try to make the most out of life...be the best they can be. others may have a fatalistic attitude towards life...that nothing matters in the long run. ...probably where religion comes in, to give people a purpose for living. No doubt the thoughts of our demise causes us much sadness, angst and depression. Better to be a goldfish?

I am getting older myself. I know death is likely much closer than it was when I was say, in my teens. Its something all of us must think about although some far more than others. I read about things that may be happening in 2050 from global warming and think to myself it is highly unlikely I will be here to see it, while my daughters think to themselves...what kind of world am I going to be living in when I am middle aged.

As you well know, there is no answer to your question. All people can do is accept what is a given conclusion.... we have no other choice.
Expanding on the concept, some day our Earth will be devoid of life....a rock burned by the expanding sun into our orbit....eventually our earth will be nothing but space dust traveling through the Universe, our own atoms will become part of newly formed stars. Our great civilizations will be erased from the history of the Universe. Even the Universe will one day cease to exist. It will be like we never existed to begin with..........

But.......how is that any different than our non-physical state before the creation of our earth and our lives? Did we care then? The Universe is only 14 billion years old...did we care before its creation?
 
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