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 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8 (view)
 
The Catholic Church
Posted: 5/13/2019 6:34:57 AM
@Jay


To me it seems if 1/2 the members got up and walked out saying we'll maybe be back after you really clean this up and we feel our children are safe, would maybe make a difference in how this church is dealing with this problem.


There has already been a significant number of followers who have left the RCC in North America...... in the wake of these scandals

www.worldreligionnews.com/religion-news/catholic-church-lost-members-religion-u-s

This alone ^ should have been a seismic shock to the vatican....but they haven't made any major doctrinal changes mitigating against future abuses.......because they are hampered by massive red-tape within their own religion.

most followers realize the wrongdoings........but many have opted to..stay with the "DEVIL" they know....rather than go with the "DEVIL" they don't know...........and this is just part of human nature!

I had spoken to someone some years ago who had left the RCC....and joined what probably was an evangelical church....he was there for several years, when word got out that the pastor/reverend was embezzling money (using it to put his child through college...and paying for a private drug rehab for another child of his).....many got in an uproar and wanted him out, but about 1/2 sided with the pastor....and there was a big discussion among them as to what should be done, which dragged on.........this person left before any decision was made, but the point is that it is hard for most people to leave what they feel to be a "part of"....and go someplace they don't know where they have to start over from scratch.

The question would be....why go with any "DEVIL" at all?.....but many cannot come to grips with that!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8911 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 5/13/2019 5:50:58 AM
^


they are all frauds anyway


not only are they frauds....IMO, they are abject deceivers.........they utilize the concept of inalienable rights as a cudgel in their attempt to hold the moral high ground in regards to the "preservation of life"....when the very people of the Faith they embrace...never used these inalienable rights, nor made any valiant effort to preserve the life of their innocents.
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8909 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 5/12/2019 8:48:17 PM
@ 8895 Millions

Well...Lordy...Lord!


A lot going on in that post, LeFou.


Yes...there is "a lot" going on!!!..........if that is what you wish to refer to the various questions that I asked....that even a 10 year old could have answered!..............Instead, you gave me a link to "find" these answers (that you don't even know)............But, for the heck of it, I'll play along with your SILLY game...........So let us indeed see what Tommy boy says:

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Christian philosophy for Thomas depends on this: that the world of creatures is totally based--for its existence, endurance and operation--upon God, who freely creates, conserves and cooperates with what He has created.


Sounds fine ^ at face value....but then you would have to clearly explain how (the Christian God) "conserved and cooperated with"....all those early Christians who got tortured and then thrown to the lions....just for proclaiming their Christian faith!..........perhaps you can ask Franklin Graham or Jerry Falwell to field the question if it is over your head!


Aquinas recognizes four main kinds of law: the eternal, the natural, the human, and the divine. The last three all depend on the first, but in different ways. Were we to arrange them in a hierarchy, eternal would be at the top, then natural, then human. Divine law is not in conflict with natural law, but it reaches human beings by a different route, revelation.


so if we are to state that inalienable rights were NOT divinely revealed (like the 10 commandments); then it only leaves 2 options as a source for Humans.........that it is natural law, or human law...eternal law was not accessible to humans as noted below.


eternal law is identical to the mind of God as seen by God himself. It can be called law because God stands to the universe which he creates as a ruler does to a community which he rules. When God's reason is considered as it is understood by God Himself, i.e. in its unchanging, eternal nature (q91, a1) , it is eternal law.


since God the father and Jesus "were one".....it stands to reason that Jesus knew eternal law...under which it includes, the divine, the natural...and the human...........................so then again, if Jesus knew that he had inalienable rights....why did he not expound upon them when he was charged (regardless of whether or not he would suffer execution), as they were conferred upon him by the Father?


Divine law is derived from eternal law as it appears historically to humans, especially through revelation, i.e., when it appears to human beings as divine commands. Divine law is divided into the Old Law and the New Law (q91, a5). The Old and New Law roughly corresponding to the Old and New Testaments of the Bible. When he speaks of the Old Law, Thomas is thinking mainly of the Ten Commandments. When he speaks of the New Law, the teachings of Jesus.


So it seems apparent that inalienable rights were not revealed by Divine law...neither by Moses or by Jesus...as it was obvious that people of that epoch were not conferred with such rights.....(ie: men had more rights than women and children)...and that the rights of others could be taken away by those in power!


.Human law can be changed, and occasionally should be changed, but it should not be lightly changed. The reason is that respect for the law is largely a matter of custom or habit, and inessential change undermines this custom. The common good is not served by a more finely tuned, theoretically better law, if people have less respect for law and follow it less faithfully.


So by this^...we can safely say that inalienable rights are not borne of Human law.....because they are immutable and more perfect


The Relation of Human and Natural Law. the natural law is law with moral content, more general than human law. Natural law deals with necessary rather than with variable things. In working out human laws, human practical reason moves from the general principles implanted in natural law to the contingent commands of human law.
Natural law is more perfect than human laws, because of the variable subject-matter of human laws.


So if we can safely say that inalienable rights stem from natural law (and not from faulty Human edicts).....then how is it that Jesus (who was part human and part Divine) had no inkling of them.....and did not put them forth, as part of his creed.


Natural law holds that in general human life should be preserved and steps should be taken to preserve it.


Yet, Jesus...did not invoke his inalienable rights...in any attempt to preserve his (human) life in the face of adversity...instead, he waived them...and opted for his enemies to direct the course of his life....citing prophecy!

Yet you right wingers would want us all.....to invoke the same rights Jesus declined....as a reason to outlaw abortion!!!


Human law in one place differs from human law in another, but if they are laws and not perversions of law they all have the same ends, those contained in the natural law, which is an expression of eternal law.


So if natural law is an expression of Eternal (God's law)....and if natural law holds that all life should be preserved...then why didn't Jesus adhere to the eternal law of God the father?.........alternatively, if it was God (the father) who perverted his own eternal law......then it would have made Jesus's (alleged) sacrifice...null and void!


"Whatever is a means of preserving human life and of warding off its obstacles belongs to natural law"; in other words, a good justification for a moral or legal rule is that it promotes the preservation of human life. Behind this is the fact that all living beings possess an inclination for survival [corresponding to the nutritive faculty of the soul, as Aristotelians apprehend it].


so if you are intellectually honest........then you are left with the monumental question that asks......why didn't Jesus invoke his inalienable rights in an effort to "preserve" his human life (regardless of the outcome of his trial)...instead of choosing to just "hand himself over"...and giving his adversaries a free ride...and please don't that it is because he wanted to pay for the sins of humanity....because invoking his inalienable rights would not have been a sinful act on his part!


Grasping Natural Law--Synderesis
The grasp of the principles of natural law is achieved by a special capacity called synderesis. This is a natural intellectual habit, in one sense of habit but not in the central sense.
It is natural because all human beings are born with it.
It is intellectual because it makes possible the grasp of principles.


so you have no excuse ^ as to why Jesus would not have been able to grasp the principles of natural law
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it can be quite fun.....to trip-up the right wing Bible thumpers....with their own precepts!!!!........
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 6 (view)
 
The Catholic Church
Posted: 5/9/2019 9:39:45 PM
^


Why worship at all?


Well, that ^ is a another matter altogether..................but the point that was made by the OP here ....was why Catholic member(s) keep staying in a Church mired by scandal...and not switch to another (as he had done).............as though he somehow thinks that the other Religions are above depravity.
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8893 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 5/9/2019 9:17:42 PM
#8883

I said-->

But he "endowed" Moses with the 10 commandments written in stone..............yet most folks were not aware (for 4000 years since abraham lived) that they had inalienable rights!................so the question is!....did anyone who violated any of the 10 commandments before the US constitution was framed, know for sure that "no individual can be deprived of life, liberty, property, happiness without due process of law" as an inalienable right...that could never be denied?


Million answered-->

I am sure many "anyone(s)" who violated Divine law knew and understood the concept of inalienable rights and that they should (not could) never be denied.


You say that you are "sure"?......do you have tangible proof you care to share?

Let me give you this example:...........According to Christian scholars, Jesus was unjustly charged by the ruling body of Israel....they could not execute him, unless approved by the Roman prefect (the Hon. Pontius Pilate).......he (supposedly) went before him, and Pilate found nothing to charge him with....nor Herod....he was allegedly sent back to the custody of the Romans, who inflicted corporal punishment (without being found guilty of any crime against the state), which was then followed by his presumed execution.

Guilty or not, do you think his inalienable rights were violated?............keep in mind this is who (Christians) believe is the son of God...the very same God who originated these inalienable rights...........Rights that should "never be denied".

Do you think Jesus understood the concept (as you stated) of inalienable rights?...if not, then why not?.... since God (the father) was the one who came up with them....and he and the father "are one" (as per scripture).

If he did understand them, they why didn't he invoke them?....since he was God the father's representative on Earth...if he chose to waive these rights, and willingly allowed himself to be executed (to fullfill prophecy)....then why should he be regarded as innocent or sinless....when he did not make his case?
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8882 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 5/8/2019 9:51:17 PM
well........................Golly !!!!


God did not endow the bill of rights.....a piece of paper.....He endowed ALL MEN (and women) with inalienable rights regardless of whether or not they were written down on a piece of paper.


But he "endowed" Moses with the 10 commandments written in stone..............yet most folks were not aware (for 4000 years since abraham lived) that they had inalienable rights!................so the question is!....did anyone who violated any of the 10 commandments before the US constitution was framed, know for sure that "no individual can be deprived of life, liberty, property, happiness without due process of law" as an inalienable right...that could never be denied?
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 3 (view)
 
The Catholic Church
Posted: 5/8/2019 8:56:53 PM
@ the OP


The Catholic church has been in the news over the past decades with their involvement in the sexual abuse scandals.


As I alluded to in another thread...........the RCC is an easy target, that has been made the "whipping boy" for all things wrong with organized large scale religions..........that they are "out of control"...."corrupt".....and "criminal"..............and while much of the allegations may be true..............it does not mean that there isn't any wrong doing in any of the other (protestant) factions, that has not been captured by the MSM............nor does it mean that all the RCC congregations or orders are equally involved in the crimes & corruption

Many of the smaller churches are way more corrupt than you might think......as they have little if any oversight


But for this church and all the coverups and decades of abuse so clearly there, why do they still go?


You may want to ask why people still follow around preachers like Jimmy swaggart (and many other like him)...and you will find that there is no straight answer

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FF says


Or better still, why not leave that institution and worship God from home?


or better yet.........why not leave all the instutitions...and worship from home!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8880 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 5/8/2019 8:16:10 PM

Millions says---->I disagree. Our rights do not exist because of the BIll of Rights says so. The Bill of Rights says so because they are inalienable....endowed by our Creator.


2Irish123 states---->Perhaps you forgot this was your post Ms. M when you wrote this:


Million then said---->God did not "endow the bill of rights"



Kudos at 2Irish....for again helping to expose the Trump lovers for the Bozos they truly are !!!

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#8878 writes


I think the point is...If we do away with legal/safe abortions.



The aim of a conservative SCOTUS....will be to first stop making aborting a constitutional right......thereby letting the states make their own laws on the matter.............some states would still allow abortions, while some others will do away with it...................sort of like the death penalty.

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Btw............anybody catch Trump's speech at the Florida rally yesterday............when he said that the folks who PAY TAXES are "smart"..........................yet at the presidential debates against HRC....he claimed that NOT paying any taxes was "smart"...when she suggested he hadn't paid any for years !!!!

It is mind staggering as to how Frikn stupid these Trump lovers are.............as they just stand there and clap at him, even though he massively insults their intelligence!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8868 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 5/8/2019 5:41:05 AM
#8866


If God did endow the bill of rights, he sure took his time having them apply to all citizens.


If we are referring to the God of Abraham.....then lets figure this....Abraham lived approximately 4000 years ago, when he went out to the "promised land"..........and he was not endowed with the Bill of rights by the God who led him......the Egyptians under Pharoah did not have the Bill of Rights.........nor the Romans or the Greeks.....Moses and Jesus never proclaimed that all men were created equal......The Mongols didn't get it.....the Islamic empire (who believed in the God of Abraham) didn't get it.............the Western European Empires did not get the B of R (and they were Christians)


So in comes America...whose laws warrant separation of church and state (and does not favor any one RELIGION)...........and they GET the bill of rights from the "Creator"......this is after 4000 years of enslavement, oppression and murder of countless millions of people...much of which due to religious edicts.

But the Bible thumpers and rightwing nut jobs go around thinking that the B of R were commissioned to them by the creator...again, a glaring sign of self righteousness!

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#8865 writes


There was a report today from a recorded conversation that former Comrade Trump lawyer Michael Cohen in 2015 helped Jerry Falwell from being blackmailed. Cohen prevented compromising (racy personal photographs) pictures of Falwell from being published. In return, hypocrite Jerry Falwell substituted Comrade Trump for Jesus Christ and endorsed him.


I don't doubt it......JF is another crooked sleeze ball..............he and others like him have been ripping off gullible people for decades...there have been many such preachers who adopted that model to set up shop.... in poor communities using the same modus operadi.

May they all be judged by the book they claim to believe in !!!!...............
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8864 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 5/6/2019 8:39:03 PM
#8859 writes


^I don't think an atheist is in the best position to judge who is or is not a "fake Christian".


It may come as a shock to your (lame) brain.....but most Atheists were actually believers at one point, and whom were well versed with scripture (far more than most mindless followers are)..........which is how they BECAME atheists in the first place !!!

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#8860 writes


Um, when Franklin Graham thinks a man who has cheated on all three wives, paid off a porn star, paid off a Playboy Bunny and admitted to grabbing women by the **** because he's famous and can away with it is somehow sent as a gift from god - that is an idiot and a fake christian.


Its important to understand just how corrupt the pentecostals and evangelical are!.........for someone like FG (and many others) who embrace Trump, is a sign of just how filthy these (so called) pastors really are....and we can only guess what they got going on behind closed doors

Fortunately for them............its the RCC that is in the spot-light, as they have become the "whipping boys" for all things wrong with organized religion.......but these slime buckets are just as bad in their own way......peddlers of prosperity-preaching as a means of separating people from their money.


The fact that Adolph Twittler, the fake christian, has his fat little hands close to the nuke buttons should scare you, he could start WW3 over a tweet and lies.


It won't scare the Bible Thumpers...as they see him a part of prophecy fullfilment in that if he ushers in the "end time".....they will (or they think they will) be automatically RAPTURED to Israel in Jerusalem to share in the kingdom of Jesus.............this is how self-righteous these people are!

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#8862


5) "Politicians nor our Government nor the NRA gives US citizens the right to bear arms....you do undrrstand that, right?"

>>>even better is the nonsense about God giving us guns



Just to touch on the NRA................I wonder if anybody has been hearing on the debacle of Wayne Lapierre (the Pres of the NRA), how he has been skimming off profits to the tune of 200K (buying himself high end suits and free trips with money that he has not paid any taxes on)...............he has been ripping off his suckers and chumps (AKA as the NRA Members), who gladly pay $45 a year (for nothing except a stupid plastic card)....now the organization is deeply in the red (where is the money?......look at what Wayne is wearing!)..so much so that Olie North has quit....and when you are too corrupt for Olie............well, that means you are frikn "plenty" corrupt!!!!....which reminds me of the Lyrics from the George Thorogood song "one scotch, one burbon & 1 beer" where he blurts out:......."when your mouth is getting dry...........you are plenty high!"

So to all the folks out there who are NRA members............keep renewing your membership, and help make rich elites...EVEN RICHER!...........its the GOP credo!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8854 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 5/4/2019 9:51:19 PM

God wants us to be able to defend the life He has given us.


it doesn't get much more idiotic than this ^ remark.......................The Trump-christians believe that God expects them to defend their lives with use of fire-arms..........rather than putting faith in an omnipotent God they claim to believe in
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8836 (view)
 
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Posted: 5/4/2019 6:13:17 AM
BBE #8830 writes


So we got 2 SCOTUS Justices and a whole bunch of lessor Federal Judges.
All Y'all Lefties better hope RBG can hold on. Cause that would be Game Over for your Rulings from the Bench.
Cause we could get enough Justices, that will rule how the Constitution is written, not how Y'all wish it was written.


This ^ really shows what a Simp...you truly are!................the SC should be the least politicized branch of any gov't....the ideal SC justices should reflect a BALANCE of both left and right....in order that the majority of rulings don't favor one side versus the other.......................if you gullibly think that the right wing appointed judges are going to rule how the USC "was written", then there is NO HOPE for your brain washed mind; as these (mitch McConnell) selected justices are there to promote the interests of the elite, and little else..........because what you are then saying is that the USC was written by "right wing" political thinkers , and that is the furthest from the truth........but then again what is "truth" to a trump lover?
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Pining over someone
Posted: 5/3/2019 8:13:55 PM
@ OP


I am shocked that I can be in pain over someone I only went out with twice. I deleted all his contact info so I won't be tempted to contact him again


you seem to get lots of men contacting you (which is good)........but how do you keep drawing in all these duds?
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8824 (view)
 
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Posted: 5/3/2019 7:57:25 PM
#8821 writes


My opinion on war memorials? They should stay. I hope to visit Auschwitz one day.


To somehow equate a "memorial" of a confederate civil war statue......to the dignity of an Auschwitz holocaust memorial...makes you an abject Anti-semite......on par with even the most vile of Supremacists
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8787 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 5/2/2019 5:50:21 AM
The democrats have to be careful about not getting mired into these proceedings head first.........there is nothing better for the GOP than to distract away from the real issues ........and have the democrats occupy (and waste) their time conducting hearings that lead to nowhere.

Trump will not be impeached, the GOP senate will see to that...........Barr will not even show up for the hearings today, and there is little the democrats can do.....even if they get Mueller to testify....what will come of it?.....at the end of the day..nothing!

The people already know that Trump is crooked and corrupt, (even those who support him)......so that will not be a factor for them.....so democrats need to get their focus on the 2020 elections....they will need to work hard talking about the serious issues (healthcare, environment, immigration, education...all these things that have been trashed by Trump)and convince as many voters as possible in the swing states on why they should be voting for them.....its their only hope of getting back at Trump!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8756 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/30/2019 6:12:30 AM
#8753


Did anyone see Judge Napolitano response to the Mueller Report and how he savaged Comrade Trump?


The question now is......how long will it take Fox to fire A.N..........for shaming their "great leader", with the truth!

Hopefully, the judge can now serve as a consultant on the judiciary committee
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Things that women get wrong..
Posted: 4/29/2019 9:26:46 PM
Lazman says


I'm not saying that dressing down a bit will eliminate every sicko off the face of the planet but when you push your tits out front and center, you're turning yourself into a shining beacon for the few real sickos that are out there. Do you really want to date a dude that only finds you interesting because of your fat sacks??


That is a choice for the woman to make...............just like it is your choice not to get lured in by it.


It seems to me the real issue is that women's blanket perception of men is so terrible that they feel the need to sexualize themselves just to get attention.


you have to understand that there are many women (as well as men), who don't have much else to bring into a relationship.....their physical attributes (the only thing many have going for them!)...which is their only selling point!


Yea.. It's how women get, "noticed" by perverts.


Some will be pervs...and some won't, but either way....it will become their problem on how to to best sort them out.
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8750 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/29/2019 8:56:51 PM
#8741 says


Amazingly enough, Mr. BBE....the three infants Gosnell was convicted of murdering....is no longer a crime in several states. It seems being able to murder a born alive infant is a progressive measure of our collective humanity. Sick!


The ^ Trump loving (morally bankrupt) reprobates.....squawk about the ills of abortion (in their vain attempt to stand for something virtuous)................BUT, they remain silent... every time a right-wing crazed gun-man goes on a shooting spree at houses of worship (KILLING, innocents including Pregnant women... such as in the Texas church shooting)...exposing their wretched double standards, as they regard that which is upheld by their party dictums as beyond reproach!


our wonderful POTUS?


you mean the guy (whose name I wouldn't even dignify as POTUS), who paid N Korea $ 2 million for the comatose body of an American (whose medical costs were as direct result of the beatings he received while under their captivity).....and then refer to KJU as someone who he "loves"!!!...............but I guess this is something that would never make a Trump worshiper feel "sick"......(unless of course, the victim might happen to have been your loved one).


who do you predict can beat our wonderful .....


I'll answer that by saying..............If there is any sense of conscience left in the souls of the voting majority....then any of the most capable Demcratic candidates ought to be able to win!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8737 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/29/2019 11:39:07 AM
^


its not that Trump is not a big supporter of Israel.....(I think he respects a tough, scrappy, and highly productive Nation like Israel)


Trump fully supports Israel largely because that is the pledge he made to the Bible thumpers (in exchange for their loyal backing).....who themselves believe that they will be "raptured" to Israel in the end times (at the era of the Tribulation)...where they will stand with Jesus (when he makes his return) and will become the heirs of the Holy Land. That is the whole basis for their interest in preserving Israel.

This is the same reason why Trump is (all of sudden) pro-life....a man who has cared little for the unborn in the past, now champions the cause........because it is "music" to the ears of the Evangelicals.
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8722 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/27/2019 9:44:09 AM
^


.....if one chose to step out of their limited bubbles and interact with a variety of people from all backgrounds and socioeconomic statuses....


..........like all "good" Trump loving GOP conservatives do!.......
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8720 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/27/2019 8:06:00 AM
@BBE


It is commonly used in the NE USA.


.....wow....some beach-bum from Cali....is trying to tell us what terms are common in the NE....(which would be like me, telling everyone which beach side lingo is used by surfer boys on the west coast!)


Anyone from the North East of the USA would recognize 'Yous"!


If you actually read what I wrote.....I didn't say I did not recognize it...I just said it wasn't used, nor heard where I am....but I also said that there might be some outlying areas where you may hear it.

The term was commonly heard in urban gangster movies filmed in the 40's & 50's.....(also at a time when women were called "broads" and "tomatoes")...but were rarely heard in colloquial terminology...unless used in parody

But here is a thought......Trump comes from Queens NY.......You being a trump lover....why don't you contact him and see what he says about it......I'm sure that he wouldn't lie to you!.....
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8716 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/26/2019 8:29:53 PM
@drac


But networks can carry bias as well.


This is why you need multiple sources...to offset any biases as best as possible


Kicking the shite out of someone because you are bigger than them is bullying


well, who am I to dispute you on this one.....I mean, with the UK's long legacy of beating on, pillaging, exploiting all their 3rd world territories for decades....you should well know exactly what bullying is, first hand!


ANOTHER civil war that had fvck all to do with the west


well, but there were "atrocities" being committed by the Serbs...so sayeth the sanctimonious ones (UK, France & Germany) who committed more atrocities combined than anyone in the world...........but they drew the moral line, and would not allow for a 2nd holocaust to take place......so did they roll up their sleeves, and put out the skirmish in their own back yard???.............Ohhh no....they called THE COP....the one who was 5 thousand miles away...to handle it!


Wow. Politician in lies shock


wow indeed!...then why the hell would you be disappointed that Trump didn't live up to what he said he would do?

You should not expect to hear truth from the mouth of a pathologic liar......anymore that you should expect to drink fine wine from a bottle of rancid mule piss.


Did president the donald study Il Duce's works then?


according to his first ex-wife....while she was in bed at night reading her novel...he was next to her reading Mein Kampf and Il duce's speeches.....he of course denies it....so you have a choice as who to believe.....a compulsive liar or his ex-wife


He should have just studied FDR should he not?


I would give you the same truthful answer Baldwin gave you.....but I dont want to re-trigger your Tourette Trump Tic (the terrible TTT)......that forces you to uncontrollably bark out......TDS....TDS....TDS....TDS...everytime someone tells it to you like it really is.


I notice that you never commented on yous. Ah well. Now you know though eh?


Just what is it that I am now supposed to know?......that there are folks in No England, Scotland, some ethnic communities in parts of the US, that say the term "yous".................hell, I'm sure that there are still some places here in the US (and the world) where some folks still use straw to wipe their butts after taking a dump...so I will acknowledge it for you (if it makes you merry!), but "yous" is not a term I use........ or hear used, where I live and breathe..............The USA is a big place, and I guess there are some outliers who may use that term....so perhaps you can ask other "shermans" here...and see what they tell you.

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@ Baldwin # 8699


i'm not sure how he can be a new Mussolini. we can see he's as much in the pocket of wall st and willing to go to war as HRC. the real problem, of course, is that if we Mussolini'd our labor force, for sure america would put the needs of the state ahead of the needs of the worker. in other words, our labor force would still get laid off for cheaper solutions.


Are U sure we can't claim TDS as a disability?............all we need to do is...keep telling them the truth (as they look back at us like we have 2 heads)...and they will affix us with the diagnosis......there will be no need for fake physical therapy...no clunky braces to wear.....no trips to the local quack for fake pain-killers...............its easy-peasy!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8692 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/25/2019 4:35:40 PM
double post..............mmmmmy bad!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8691 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/25/2019 4:32:47 PM
@Jack 8684


Trump has many autocratic inclinations, that does not make him the equivalent of a Stalin or a Hitler or a Mao Zedong however. Those mass killers are unique in the history of the world.


Nobody is equating him to a mass killer............he just has very many character similarities & tendencies borne by these mass killers, and if he would ever be given the chance....I believe he could be quite dangerous.

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@ Drac


What i am saying is i read the same online american media sites that you do


personally, I try to avoid the whole online crap.........they cater to a certain audience looking for sensationalism and entertainment............their goal is to hold your attention as long as possible.........I listen to the networks


Sorry but that first bit reads to me as lets pick easy targets. Ones we can kick the shite out of.


Yes...if you can............afghanistan would have been an easy target if GWB...had stuck to his plan....but the neo-cons reminded him that he had to find an excuse to take over Iraq's oil.........and Cheney made sure that a good enough reason to invade got fabricated.

Clinton did fairly well with the Bosnian conflict..............even though the GOP was hoping to hell something would go wrong and make him look bad


They are historically war like folk. Why not leave them to get on with it and try instead getting to grips with the gangs in our nations who seem to be out of control


because that would not make too much sense...........how else would they feed the military industrial complex behemoth?....by waging war against street gangs?


Yep i was disappointed that he never done that. It would have been a start.


You were disappointed by a pathologic liar?.............it would be like if I said to you that there was a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow....ad you ran off to find ............but then after a while you come back to me, and disappointingly say:...."I couldn't find the end of the rainbow...it kept moving"


I don't think it's so much they have been in power. More that our political systems ALLOW money to buy politicians


Then don't blame the globalists............blame your system of Gov't...don't even blame your parties & its members...demand that lobbying be made illegal


Lol i was going to post that link also but changed my mind. Mussolini was an innovator politically. He combined his socialism with the nation state. And FDR admired this. You would think new dealers would tip their hats towards Il Duce


and you would think that Trump could have learned something from "il Duce" (after having studied his works for as long as he did)....and do something for the working class......instead of trying to pull what little they have out of their mouths

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@ 8689 N2u

It sounds like Creepy Joe is saying MAGA………am I wrong?


The only true creep is the dirty ol'man prowling around in young girls locker rooms in the Ms teen USA contests hoping to catch a peep of their private parts...............the true creep is the dirty ol'man who can look at young female child and then say "you know, one of these days I will be dating you"

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@baldwin 8687


>>>like bone spurs?


Oh no.....I don't think we could ever get as deviously creative!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8683 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/25/2019 9:46:50 AM
@ drac


As far as i am aware we really do not get a different american press.


without me seeing what you see...I can't say for sure.......but from what you are saying it doesn't sound like it lines up with what we get.............unless you are watching rightwing media who constantly puts the left in a bad light....otherwise, what you are getting is just entertainment.


What a stupid argument. Are you implying that president the donald is planning concentration camps where the likes of you and platy will be incarcerated? Deary me


What is really stupid.....is that there are people who think that he wouldn't be inclined to doing it, when this man campaigned, he constantly spoke of incarcerating his opponents who have criticized him...he has stirred fighting to his supporters Brown-shirt style.........he has called the press (not his propaganda outlets of course) the enemy of the people, as well as the Democratic party...............he has initiated the scapegoating process against most poor brown skinned illegal migrants who are here as laborers being exploited.......he has attacked Muslims and pegged them as dangerous, while most of the violence on Americans has been carried out by right wing extremists............he sends dog whistle messages to haters and supremacists

What is worse, is that now...........he is in contempt of Congress (who has the responsibility to oversee the executive branch), so he is in effect vying to transform himself into a Putin-like ruler..........where the laws on paper only apply to his opponents..........but not him, and he has given himself the right to be above the law.

As I said, if this man could create a secret police............there would NO DOUBT be round ups of all sorts of people on his hit list............from journalists, to clergy (not the Bible thumpers who support him), to activists...etc.


So rather than look 'cowardly' he continued to bomb the shite out of nations and send american laddies and lassies to be maimed or killed? So HE didn't look like a coward.


That is the sacred cow that neither party touches.........if there is a war in progress, neither side willingly withdraws for fear that they will seen as weak, it is a common happening.............it happened in Vietnam, when Gerald Ford, extracted the US from it and the South quickly collapsed........that did not help Fords re-election bid.

So when you are seen as the top-dog of the world...........and you back out unilaterally from a war (that is right or wrong) all your enemies are going to take notice.............look at what happened to the USSR, when they packed up and left afghanistan.........that was a wound that they never healed from, and spurred the rise of islamic insurgency against the west......so there can be dire consequences of just walking away!..........the key is never to start something you can't finish fast


So you agree with america getting involved with conflicts abroad because if yous don't it's seen as being weak


No, you again misunderstand..........the key is never to get mired in an unwinnable conflict.........such as what you have in afghanistan..........that GWB got us into, if he had just focused on getting OBL, instead of getting control of Iraq's oil....he probably would have caught him where he had him trapped, and we would have long been out of afghanistan maybe....but we have overstayed, and that has allowed for many warlords to become players...so if we just pull out, we can't know which one of these is going to come out on top


Your leaders get yous involved in war and conflict and those who vote for them obviously do not mind your laddies and lassies getting killed or maimed. Otherwise yous would not lend them your vote.


we do mind.....but like the excuse you made for your leaders--> "we tell them, but they don't listen".....but at least "yous" have a choice of way more parties to vote for than we do


How about the leaders you bigged up in another post admitting they were wrong to get involved. Stop bombing said nations. Removed military personnel and in doing so save american laddies and lassies from being killed or maimed and civilians being killed.


This ^ is what Trump said he was going to do.........get us out of all conflicts, but heading into 3 years , we are still there....he wanted to leave Syria, but everyone in the WH advised against it..........for reasons I already touched upon (the consequences).............so as I said, the key is never to get involved if at all possible......but how long do you think he will wait before either Iran, or Venzuela is invaded?...........Trump will be waiting for your kind support!.


But how many presidential candidates in the last say, five, elections from BOTH parties have not helped out their wall street/ globalist friends?


and that will show you that the globalists...have been in power, are in power...and will be in power...no matter what!


Why do you highlight the word yous? It is only the plural of you. It is used widely around the globe. It was used constantly in the telly show The Sopranos. It is used in certain parts of america as well.


well, this ^ is another set of fake information you are being fed........the word "yous" is not used colloquially here (at least not where I am)...although not unheard of, it is not used (I thought that was used where you are)....the more common term you will hear is "ya'll"...especially in the south, and inner cities............getting your info on American pop culture from watching Sopranos...is like learning to drive...by reading a "how to" book....................but keep watching that boob-tube, nice to know "yous" are that interested in us!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8679 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/24/2019 5:49:15 PM
@ Jack


As much as I detest Trump, this really is a ridiculous assertion and minimizes just how bad Hitler was


My remark was not meant to minimize how bad Hitler was..........but rather to show how similar Trump's steps are to those Hitler took early on


.I don't see in Trump a man who would foster a program of genocide against Jews, Gypsies, the disabled, etc.


He wouldn't be going after Jews (his targets are the Muslims & Brown skinned people)...........he has to first cultivate them as scapegoats in the same manner as Hitler did (reasons why Americans can't get jobs and services....or Muslims who are painted with the same brush-strokes as Islamist terrorists).............Hitler didn't start persecuting Jews the moment he took power, it was a gradual build up to it...he first had to demonize them, and then de-humanize them......any similarities you see?


He is capable of mass murder....highly unlikely imho.


The USC...is the only thing holding him in check...so far!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8678 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/24/2019 5:26:09 PM
@ Drac


Yep. You are wrong.................


well, thanks for clearing it up......then it looks like that the Uk just likes to flaunt its money about........all the money that "yous" say the UK does not have to fund the NHS and public services..........so then what have your populists parties been doing about it?


. Maybe we get different american press than yous do...........


perhaps you do...because for "yous' its just entertainment to get a few laughs....but for us, its a nothing-burger....if any news outlets starts devoting that much time to it (like "yous" do)....the ratings will plummet



Nope. You definitely went over the top and displayed TDS...............


in the 1930's...there were a handful of courageous Germans....who called out Hitler for what he was....a liar, a hater, a power hungry demagogue.

www.nytimes.com/2000/10/7/arts/at-last-recognition-and-praise-for-the-resistance-in-nazi-germany.html

the first concentration camps consisted mainly of German dissidents (journalists, priests, etc)....so according to you (and others like you)...these dissidents had HDS? (Hitler derangement syndrome)



So why did his administration not show leadership and stop those conflicts? Did you not say earlier that you admire leaders who lead in the best interests of citizens?...............


Obama campaigned on winning in afghanistan in 2007 (presumably because it was being believed that victory was close at hand by the GWB adminstration)...and that ending the war abruptly (that he would not have undertaken), would make him look cowardly...in front of his opponents......that he would be viewed as a quitter!


But surely clinton then obama could have said that your military were going to wind down operations abroad? And why did voters who were not war mongers vote for er war mongers?


see above answer


Even inherited conflicts can be stopped.


You can get out of a war at anytime.....so long as you DON'T care what happens afterwards (The Taliban & alquaida reforming...and claiming victory!!!).....and don't care how your opponents will characterize you, and don't care about the possible harm it may result (as it can be seen as a sign of weakness by enemies all over) down the road...............its like if a close relative you have dies and leaves you to care for their small child............yet you choose to walk-away from it, because you did not father him/her.....so no, its not easy to get out of an inherited conflict


But yous lots leaders apparently do not have the will.


sorry......^ don't understand you here.................we or the leaders lack the will?


I seem to mind obama changing his mind about homosexual marriage. Once george clooney held a $40,000 PER HEAD dinner which was promised as a donation. IF he changed his mind on homosexual marriage.


Not quite the same....when it comes to war!


Aye principles have a habit of being abandoned when a nice wedge of cash is involved.


quite the case with Trump...........nearly everything he promised (except that which benefits the rich globalists)...went out the window!

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@ Baldwin


chump's love of dictators, xenophobia, support for "good Nazis", pledge to pay for people to beat up demonstrators, and his willingness to obstruct investigations does give him the air of Hitler 1930's.


You know all the Trump-worshippers.........will be accusing you of TDS too!.............I wonder if we can claim disability from it?
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8673 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/23/2019 7:17:56 PM
@drac


There are constant protests about the way the nhs is in decline.


Just tell them that you want as much money spent on healthcare....as they spend on your Royals, and on weaponry.


But just why we give aid to india is beyond me.


Just a wild guess.....but maybe because your nation had subjugated, oppressed, pillaged, etc....countries like India for decades if not longer....................and perhaps, somebody in your leadership with a conscience....decided to make some amends...............but I could be wrong!


i thought you said that was according to the uk press? But it is quite amusing watching all the dafties on both sides over there apologising for any indiscretion


I read and watch many news outlets here......and I'm not constantly seeing candidates perpetually apologizing....maybe your press is splicing video clips..........The times I saw some of them apologize was in the aftermath of it becoming public....and since then, nothing lewd or horrendous has been revealed......I thought the apologies were excessive, but then I also think that these things are politically motivated and they are just doing it to placate those on the fringes.


I think you have went a bit over the top though with the comparison you speak off....


Not at all............Trump is cut from the same cloth as Hitler was.........don't make the MISTAKE of thinking that he is nowhere as bad, simply because he has not committed any atrocities.......Trump just hasn't been given that chance, but if he had the power to create a secret police, or dissolve Congress....he would jump on it like a fly on chit......make no mistake, this is a dangerous megalomaniac second to none.


So when are yous going to let your collective balls drop and oppose the seemingly endless wars?


you know its quite funny......because Obama inherited the Iraq and Afghan war from GWB....and when he hinted at the intention that he wanted to phase out troops in these 2 countries....he was dubbed as being "weak" on Islam & terror in general (mostly by the GOP)............but we keep electing war mongers...that give us a false sense of well being...and then we keep looking for conflicts, to show those who voted for them...that the new toys work!


Are there any of the would be presidential democrat candidates for 2020 who would say that they would stop american military involvement overseas? And use the money saved on infrastructure?


Most of them are saying that.........but you will never win over the "dafties" that vote for war-mongers, who stupidly think that spending more money on weapons will keep them safe....as we already spend more than Russia, China, EU put together!

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#8670


That sounds like something Sean Hannity would say.


Didn't you know that SH is their political intercessor....... to the high priest of hate!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Things that women get wrong..
Posted: 4/22/2019 5:56:13 PM
@OP


If you don't want a guy to sexualize you, don't wear clothing that pushes your sexual(to guys) parts up and out for him to ogle over.


tight clothes that reveal T&A.....is the "nectar" that draws in the males........which is what most young and eligible women have to do in this society, if they want to be noticed................in the old days, it was flowery dresses, lip stick and hair doo's.........and even when they were less revealing..........some of them still got raped!

as far as the other stuff goes.............I think you have an unrealistic expection....(of a surrealistic way of finding a mate)...none of that (ie, ghosting) is ever going to stop....because of the nature of OLD.....which is why nothing can ever replace dating IRL

Like my old coach used to say..........."some people wait for things to happen.....and then there are those who go out and make things happen"
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 4 (view)
 
When an EX doesn't allow you to take your personal property
Posted: 4/22/2019 5:38:45 PM
^


Chalk it up to a live and learn situation...


I agree with purfect!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8650 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/22/2019 5:32:16 PM
@ drac


Yes we have all of the above. Although our nhs is drastically underfunded. As are social services. We have a modicum of free speech but not outright.


Then organize and gather outside all gov't offices with placards every day.........show your leaders how "yous" feel....stop traffic; make noise, civil disobedience (but no violence) nationwide.........demand they restore what is being taken from you


The crept in some privatisation of some services. An example being hospital cleaning.


But isn't that what "yous' wanted?........wasn't Thatcher your kind of conservative?....I thought you embrace the Conservative spirit (they conserve the wealth for themselves.....and distribute the losses to the public)


And it was not beneficial to Scotland.................


"yous' should have left the UK.......when you had the opportunity to do so!


Sorry is the easiest word – but should Democrats stop their apology tour?
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democrats 2020 apologising from www.theguardian.com
8 Apr 2019 · Democrats running for president in 2020 are on an “apology tour”, seeking to atone for past political sins. Some voters welcome it as an antidote to Donald Trump, an overdue attempt to ...


Yeah, they should stop, its making some people sick!...........once is enough!.............and when you compare what they did to Trump's egregiousness....how awful was it really?..........nobody got accused of molestation, harassment, etc.



I disagree to a certain extent because they all want to leave a legacy.


nothing wrong with wanting a legacy......if there some gain for the citizens


I've read about obama sending thousands of folk back over the border. The fence that was erected by i think clinton. They ALL have skeletons rattling away like a junkie. They ALL done what they seen as a vote winner


right....and no apology is warranted for any of this^..................I don't have a problem with border security......but when Trump inhumanely separates children from their parents.....you go are going below the belt, and it is despicable!......reminds me when the Nazi SS were rounding up Jews....and separating the children from the adults....just to enjoy the painful looks on peoples faces.... because of the pain he inflicted on them.


The public opposed us having any involvement in syria and our war mongers got a bloody nose.


Congrads....to "yous"........as you are now starting to grow a set of balls!


United States as a policeman of the world, it's over"


I would love that to be the truth.........but I see little evidence of it


But american public opinion at the time did not want to go to war did they? How did we muck things up then? Germany steamrolled over everyone at the start of the war


We didn't want to go to war....because we didn't want to get screwed by the UK & France again like we did at the end of WW1...........when Germany surrendered, the allies came down too hard on them......and paved the way for the rise of Hitler...who convinced his people that they got ripped off......and proceeded to disregard the Versailles treaty....and when he could have been easily stopped early on, "yous" (UK & France) didn't do it.....the rest you know!


Whoever forms the government over here is not normally those with the most votes. A bit like yous then eh?


Our electoral system only applies to the presidency.............but in your case you vote for the party (and whoever they must make a coalition with)...so at least, who ever is appointed the head....has to tow the party line.....in other words, you should know what you getting before anybody is appointed......and there is usually no power from the minority to prevent laws from being passed!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8646 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/21/2019 6:54:50 PM
drac writes:


I would say most folk are honest and decent. Maybe the odd white lie. But if they found a wallet or purse they would try and find the owner.


depends where you are....but true ^ in most cases


Which 'leaders' of nations care about everyone but themselves?


Lets use the term "leadership".....since it best describes nations that freely and honestly elect their leaders
Lets talk about the UK (and perhaps the EU)..........do you not have a national healthcare system that is there for the welfare of the citizens, rich or poor?...........do you not have a social service and public service system, that is maintained and upheld for the benefit of the citizens...............do you not have a system of free speech whereby you can criticize your leadership without fearing to be arrested or persecuted?

Now this doesn't mean that these mechanisms are always in perfect working order,............. and that they cannot be corrupted....but at least there is a frame-work in place for the citizens to test/challenge the integrity of those who are supposed to represent them.

(*) In America...........we have had a few Presidents who exhibited profiles in courage (did things that they didn't really have to do......mainly to benefit others.....rather than themselves).......................FDR (with the new deal).....JFK (setting the stage for Black American civil rights)......LBJ (the civil rights act...and the great society venture).......Jimmy Carter (environmental concerns)........Obama (the affordable care act)......Yes, I realize that these leaders had their sets of woes.............but they at least stuck their necks out to do (at least) some things altruistically for the lesser folks in society....that they really didn't have to do


I read with interest about yous shermans in our press.


I don't just what you actually read about "shermans"............in YOUR press.....but from what I read of your posts....you are not getting properly informed


At the moment most of the democrat hopefuls for 2020 are busy apologising for past indiscretions.


You heard this ^ from YOUR press...I presume?................You make it sound as though people like Biden, Bernie, Etc start off by saying "I'm sorry"...every time they open their mouths........................You have to understand that there are people who are furiously digging and searching for dirt to hold over on their opponents..........yes, everyone has said or did something that they might regret saying or having done............but so far, nothing has been unveiled about any of the democratic hopefuls that even comes close to reaching a TRUMPIAN scale!!!


And leaders who do not strive for themselves? Any examples?


see (*) above


Compassion? For whom? Certainly not for illegal immigrants. Because compassion for those folk means losing votes. And we can't have that now can we?


If anyone will risk losing votes for displaying some compassion for illegal migrants....it won't be the Democratic hopefuls............But if Trump's lack of compassion was limited just to illegal immigrants in general (and not their skin color or religion).....it would probably warrant some measure of a respectful response from those opposing him....................But Trump's uncompassion goes beyond that.....it affects illegals and legals (if you are not on his side of the fence), that is borne from sense of malice & disdain emanating from a bruised big ego....that says to him "how dare they not agree with everything I say or do....how dare they question my motives" ....


As for caring about THEIR land why can they not respect other folks land and not bomb the shite out of said lands killing and maiming thousands?


Hey, I agree with you on this ^ one....all the way!....................But you know what!...."yous" were fine with us as being The " policeman of the world", while "yous" comfortably sat in your easy chairs eating pop-corn (or whatever it is "yous" eat).....and of course, when things work out for your interests....you smile and say nothing (as you extract a piece of flesh for yourselves from time to time!)..................but when things don't go so well !!!!............then "yous" whine and criticize us about how we "screw things up"...and make life horrible for others, .......well, isn't that all too convenient?

Just my POV......by why don't all you Euros simply demand us to get out of Europe............personally, I would be glad as hell to take our armed forces out of the Euro-zone, UK, the Med...etc.....and let "yous' be the ones rolling up your sleeves, when the chit hits the fan...........and we will just sit back and enjoy the show!.........Ooops, I forgot that this is what happened in 1939......when "yous" really mucked things up, and then sent Churchill over here begging for help...but this time "yous" can take a Hike!


In my opinion ALL leaders do what is best for THEM. Because they get addicted to the power they get.


up to a point......but then comes election day (in countries that hold true elections) , and that is when the party is over..........however, if Trump ever has it his way, the election process itself will be made a mockery of and be rigged to favor his party no matter who a voter chooses....that seems to be his dream, to fully rig the 2020 elections.


ALL leaders lie. It's how they get votes


Yes...but then its all about the voters...and how many lies they are willing to put up with, and for how long?...this is the question that Trump does not have the answer to......which is why he would love to subvert the system.
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8643 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/20/2019 9:53:26 PM
^

Are you sure the WH saw an unredacted copy?


Does an Alligator chit in the swamps?

https://www.vox.com/2019/4/18/18484791/mueller-report-trump-barr-lawyers-white-house

If Trump's lawyers saw it, then you can bet that Trump certainly saw it..........which is why he made Barr give that asinine speech before Congress.......it was too stupid to come out of Barr himself, that was a speech Trump wrote for him


There are no SCIF time limits!


The party that calls the shots.....are the ones who can craft the rules...............Didn't Laura mention that?


They want an unredacted copy sent to ALL Congress so they can LEAK it!


Maybe the repubs will leak it....since that has been the 2 year tradition coming out of the WH


Lmao again


You should try to avoid doing that.........I hear that it can really mess up your Butt-lift....and you will have to find another sugar-daddy to pay for another one.....again!


What planet do you come from,


I come from a world where beings are honest...........our leaders have integrity and show compassion....they care about their land and others in......and strive to best for everyone, not themselves......sounds alien to you no doubt!....
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8641 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/20/2019 5:47:44 PM
^


I'll give you a hint....cause it's ILLEGAL! Lmao!


But its legal for the WH to read it, before it got redacted and presented to Congress, right!.......


Nadler can go review the entire unredacted report in a SCIF anytime he wants


sure......and we can picture on just how it would go:

"Hi Jerry, c'mon in.............here is the M report...all 600 pages..........Oh, and you have 15 minutes to read it....
But I'm sure Laura gave you all the details.


All of congress can't cause of those pesky things called...security clearances.


Oh you mean like the ones that were undeservedly given (by Trump) to about 25 people in his staff....that the FBI deemed risky individuals.....................you never know, its actually possible that Putin may have gotten a copy of the unredacted report.
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8639 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/20/2019 3:44:07 PM
The bottom line is that..........Mueller needs to testify to Congress...........and it has to happen by the end of May, and then be done with it!

Nadler is just wasting his time trying to subpoena the whole M report from Barr....its just going to get dragged on and on......and even if he does, what are the democrats going to do, while the GOP controls the senate?..........they won't be able to push anything through.

At this point...the democrats need to re-think their approach...............without any hope of an impeachment, they will just be spinning their wheels......and wasting time and energy.

Their focus should now be shifting to......everything Trump has abandoned.............1) a wall Mexico was supposed to have paid for..... 2) failure to craft an immigration bill (that bot sides would accept) ..... 3) failure on a healthcare fix or reform for the ACA........4) failure to contain the Fed deficit......5) failure to create REAL solid jobs for the middle class (not those made by economic bubbles)..........6) failure to invest in infrastructure ......7) failure to protect the environment.

This ^ is just a short list
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8626 (view)
 
Will President Donald Trump Last The Full 8 Years?
Posted: 4/19/2019 3:49:08 PM
6


But they will..


put your money were your mouth is.............if you are that sure, then bet all you have on that!

again, here is the site:

www.predictit.org/markets/7/Justice

that is.....if you have the balls......
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8620 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/19/2019 6:10:41 AM
^

He said there was NO evidence of ANY American...let alone someone connected to the Trump campaign...that colluded with Russians!!!

Why did Mueller lie???


Its not that he lied......he could not connect all the dots........that Manafort himself was in coordination with the Russians is a FACT........he stonewalled Mueller......and Mueller could not follow the "bread crumbs" leading to Trump's doorstep.

Manafort was up to his neck............and Trump had to fire him (probably on advice from the Russians) only to make it look like he wanted nothing to do with him...........but in reality it was the right move, because Manafort then worked freely without having to worry about being a liability to Trump.

Actually Manafort did right to himself..........because if he'd come clean and told the whole truth....he would likely not last even 1 year on the streets...........the "powers that be" could easily rub him out...and make it look like an accident. Manafort smartly opted to do time in jail.....knowing that he will get a Presidential Pardon....a pat on the back....and probably a Medal of Honor for being loyal to Trump............same with Stone.

I give these operatives a lot of credit...they did a good job covering up their trails leading to Trump.....but they almost came close during the Trump tower meeting with the Russians....but nothing was exchanged.

Trump would not subject himself to an interview with Mueller......because as he was quoted saying (when Mueller was appointed special counsel)....."now I'm F*@k'd......my Presidency is going to be over"..............the rat knew quite well his days were numbered if he didn't find a hole to crawl out of............he just had to stay on the run..................but Mueller left the door open on the issue of Obstructing Justice, and punted it to Congress.

we will hopefully soon hear Mueller's own words on this issue
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8617 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/18/2019 8:39:17 PM
^


There are a lot of players in Washington with FARA violations and we can entrap them into giving false statements.


You think its just about nailing players with whatever Fara violations?......Is this what the Trump led DOJ is going to do......if so then when will Kushner be indicted?

Manafort's false statements were motivated by more than just FARA violations...........this guy was in liason with K Kilimnick.....a Russian intelligence operative, to whom he was providing all types of election related data...especially concerning the "battle ground" states (and why would the Russian Secret service want this info?............Oh I don't know, I guess they had nothing better to do).....


Wonder what info he might be willing to trade for a lighter sentence?


His argument will be that for what he did.......he was not required to register as a FARA agent....which is something for a jury to decide

But carry on with your "whataboutisms"!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8614 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/18/2019 6:13:44 PM
#8610 says



you guys would have learned to be careful what you ask for but...nope!


what were we "guys" supposed to have "learned"..............and exactly from whom?

..................................

# 8611


This is hilarious.


for who?...........I haven't seen Barr, Sekelow, or Trump......partying it up?


Dems chose Mueller,


Put away the moon-shine..............he was chosen by Rosenstein (with GOP input)


Mueller chose his team. Not one conservative in the group.


Now why do you suppose he didn't include any conservatives?...........(yawn...I won't wait for a reply)


2+ years later, Mueller finds nothing.


Nothing at all?........Says who, Barr?.....................well, if you are that sure about your assertion, then why don't you put a wager on it. Check this article:
www.businessinsider.com/odds-possible-mueller-investigation-developments-online-betting-sites-2019-1

then go to: www.predictit.org/markets/7/Justice

and we'll see just you are made of...........by the amount you are willing to bet on what you firmly believe


If I were a dem, I'd be mad that the MSM lied to me, claiming that they had evidence.


Hold on there Junior!.........the MSM never claimed they had "evidence"...if they did, they'd be called in as witnesses!
The whole reason for Mueller's investigation was to FIND evidence............is that NEWS to you now, after 2+ years!


Well, it's going to happen. So who's going to come out of that hearing not looking good? It certainly won't be Mueller.


Ok, then just step up to the betting site.......and wager everything you own on what you stated..........if you are that sure, you stand to be a very rich man (unless you are in the top 1% already)

................
#8612


I do believe this is a discussion about FACT vs. FAITH


Maybe you can provide us FACTS on why Trump's henchmen (Stone, Manafort, etc...all lied to Congress)......Oh, maybe its because they wanted to eat some of that good Jail-house food that gets served!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8609 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/18/2019 9:19:31 AM
Trump henchman AG Barr.......making a mockery out of the mueller report.........a laughable speech he made using WH talking points.

Nadler must now have Mueller himself testify before congress.
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8604 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/18/2019 6:05:40 AM
#8602


If only....Mike Rogers had not instigated a review of those dang 702 queries....Obama and Hillary might have gotten away with their crimes.


For those interested..........this ^ is a classic text-book retort of a (trump) cultist......reacting to what is perceived to be an unjust attack on her leader.

It is reminiscent of how the Manson Family of female followers reacted when they held vigil outside the LA courthouse during the hearings...............some of the things they were chanting out were " You better watch your children....Judgment day is coming"

The similarities are striking!

https://timeline.com/these-photos-show-the-truly-whacked-out-devotion-the-manson-family-had-for-their-leader-7c06240b1660
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Get it out of your head fool
Posted: 4/16/2019 10:16:05 PM
@#10


how much farther down can I fall? I guess my answer to that is A LOT


A Lot ????...........but you said in your earlier posts about losing "what LITTLE" faith or esteem you have left!
which is it?...........Your self-esteem is far down to a level where you can't even ask a woman (that you like) out for a simple cup of coffee.....for fear that she will say "NO", (because you convinced yourself that she must be "attached" to somebody more worthy than you)......because if you are truthful about your esteem (or faith) being that low.....then just what is it that makes you think you have "A LOT" to lose...if she answers NO?


Yes, hearing her say yes would help. Actually dating her would send things through the roof.


Actually...........the "dating" is when the challenge begins, that is the hard part because that is when you both try to get to know one another...and there is no assurance that any chemistry will develop between you both..........asking her out is the easy part!


Since I am 99.99% sure this girl in taken, since all the good ones seem to be,


This is ^ what could be called a Logical fallacy.........because there is no way could you be so sure that she is taken (you admitted that yourself).....so you are fabricating a plausible excuse to shield your ego.


Am I disappointed? Sure I am, but rather than embarrass myself and make her feel uncomfortable,


You won't be making her uncomfortable if you ask her after the therapy has completed.....if she says NO, she won't need to ever see you again (and vice versa)....the real issue is if you know how to handle rejection positively...........rejection is something that most men have experienced countless times in the world of dating.....and in most cases, something positive (upping the learning curve) can be gained by it....to make you better prepared for the next opportunity


Any other advice for me?


you might want to consider going for some counseling......what have you got to lose?
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Get it out of your head fool
Posted: 4/15/2019 8:09:11 PM

It's easier said than done unfortunately. As my original post says, I have absolutely no faith in myself in the context of relationships


All the more reason why you should ask her (at the right time) to go out!........ just what the heck have you got to lose by not asking?.....I mean, if your faith & esteem is that low....then the only place for you to go is up!.....Even if she says NO, at least you gave yourself a chance at it.


so why am I thinking about pursuing this knowing I am nothing special and that I am most likely setting myself up for a disappointment?


The only thing that should truly be disappointing....is by not even affording yourself the opportunity to ask her.
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Get it out of your head fool
Posted: 4/14/2019 7:02:13 PM
^


So, the question is: what do I do about this? Do I use my head?


Yes, you use your head...............by waiting for her to complete your full course of OT......then you can hit on her....and if she says YES...then good for you!.........If she says NO, then the reason does not matter,... because you will not be seeing her again, but at least you had some class...by not putting her in an uncomfortable situation (by being forced to say either yes or no) right in the middle of her professional duty!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8584 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/13/2019 7:08:51 PM
@8580


I quoted President Obama from a speech last Saturday.


Well Okay, I guess that "made your day".............I stepped into your trap.......I'll give you that one.................I guess it gives you a Republican sense of grandeur knowing that you make the grade by getting "over" on someone by way of chicanery..........should we expect any better?

But, if that is what Obama said, then you know that it has no hidden or double meaning....and it doesn't vindicate Trump's similar statements.....................because as we now know, Trump saying it, is because he does not wish to "offend" his racist base.



@ 8581


I am sure Ms. LeFou is quite embarrassed


not as much as I've been embarrassing you on these boards..........as far as the "Ms" goes.........you should know that my offer still stands.....you can still send your most attractive (adult) female member of your family my way....and I guarantee you she will set you straight on my sexuality..............I would invite you, but like Trump.....I have have high standards to uphold!
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8576 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/13/2019 6:54:36 AM
@ # 8569


“If you’re going to have a coherent, cohesive society, then everybody has to have some agreed-upon rules,” said the President. “It’s not racist to say if you’re going to be here then you should learn the language of the country you just arrived at.”


Seems fair to me


except that there is no statute or "RULES" in the laws that makes English the official language of the US.......so Trump is just using that as a "soap-box" to expound on his bigotry



@ #8574



Trump talks a good game but when will the deplorables catch on that he is doing zero for them?


They won't.....because their cult leader can do no wrong!......if something is not right, it is always somebody else's fault ( The democrats, Hillary, Comey, Mueller.......the Mexicans....the Muslims...etc)

I ran across an ardent-Trump lover....who was saying how he got hit hard on his 2018 Tax returns......but in his conceit, he could NOT point the finger at Trump........instead, the idiot was blaming democrats.....(if you can believe it).

On these forums.............you have "million reasons" as a prime example..............Trump can pee right in her face, and she'd find a democrat to blame it on.

This is why it is a waste-of-time..........to try to have any meaningful discussion with these charlatans.
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8556 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/10/2019 10:04:47 AM
^


Clown's make people happy,...


the "clown" is definitely making MSM happy...he is the gift that keeps on giving


Circus, one of the most exciting places to go.


......until Trump won the presidency....then they couldn't compete with his ratings....and went belly-up


Full of talented entertainers


....too bad, Trump couldn't get any of them to fill his cabinet posts...........he'd have a much more competent and stable WH staff, if he did.


Ringling & Barnum & Bailey was one of the best....


Yep, they took animal abuse to new heights


very few donkey's.


which proves............ that they are not that stupid.........
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8551 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/8/2019 7:17:03 AM
From what I'm hearing....Neilson got canned because she refused to re-enact the family separation policy....Trump went off on her like a pack of fire-crackers, because she refused to do his bidding anymore................Maybe he should appoint David Duke.
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 43 (view)
 
How to make fools of ordinary people....through fake news
Posted: 4/5/2019 9:19:58 PM
^ at SS45


But we’ve undermined governments that were “democratically elected,” and also in elections.


True, there were instances where that was done....the most notorious was when the US & UK ousted democratically elected Iranian PM Mohammed Mosedeggh in 1951.........and installed the Shah as absolute leader........(you know the rest)....but that was done because of Shifty Winston Churchill hoodwinking newly elected Eisenhower....into thinking that Iran was going to ally itself with the USSR, and jack up the price of oil...........(the real reason was that Iran nationalized its oil industry, kicked out the Brits who were ripping them off...and the UK, weakened by WW2....couldn't take much action).......so the (presumed) reason for undermining that govt was that they wouldn't side with our adversaries................Iran was the exception, but most of the countries who we undermined in south and central America were despotic regimes themselves (not that it justified us doing it)....who were seen as potential "traitors".


Not with Russia, that I know of,


according to Putin, we interfered with Russia greatly


I assume you’re referring to Trump/Trumpers/GOP?


Trump knew Russia had his back!..........It was already ironed out pre-election; there were too many interfaces between Trump's team and that of Russia to deny any connection........US intelligence agencies all came to the same conclusion....only Trump repudiated it.....................and I'm sure he would highly welcome further Russian help, in whatever form it could take


And Russians hacking emails is one thing, but as far as them placing propaganda into U.S. social media, well, that’s exactly what we deserve, when maximum corporate profits supersede security concerns with Silicon Valley tech giants, thus leaving them open to said propaganda. Too f*g bad, far as I’m concerned. We 100% deserved it.


There is no doubt we fell asleep at the "wheel", and likely "deserved it"...............but now we retrospectively know what took place and who did it..................But the question is, (now that we Know what we know)......how do you feel about the guy who benefited from this,...who is not doing anything about it (with the hope of gaining that same outside help in the 2020 election)..........do you still think we "deserve it" if the guy in charge is ushering it to happen again?


Which is the way it is now. Maximum profit is running it. Maximum profit is managing it. Hedge funds and Wall Street reign supreme. So I oppose it!


what you describe is globalism run amok...........but according to the link you posted, this is predominantly in the English speaking industrialized countries....................and the countries who have "opposed" this are mainly the Eurozone nations (regarded as egalitarians); many (if not most) have a Socialistic flavor............which is why I'm baffled as to why you would think Trump is the disrupting savior you were hoping for..........when infact, he is more pro-global that any of his predecessors (gave the top 1% a tax gift......deregulation that helps big industry.....embraces a Wall street operative in Mnunchin.....has Globalists/neocons on his staff)....many of whom are just manipulating him like a show-room dummy...at the same time, making him think he is making the big decisions!


And the ultimate slap in the face (at least to me) is the “free world” utilizing a Communist/authoritarian system (China, etc.)…what we were SUPPOSED to be fighting in the 50s-70s…. to help destroy those Western middle classes.


You could thank Nixon & Kissinger for that one .......the good'ol GOP--->who accuses Bernie Sanders as being a "Commie"............and calls AOC, a vile Socialist out to destroy America.............when in fact, (democratic) Socialism may be the very thing that could put the brakes on run-amok Globalism, and restore the balance


If globalization only enriches the elites, and a few lucky others, I will forever oppose it, and take my chances with going back to more nationally based economies, where the people have more local control.


then you need to better appreciate democratic Socialism.........because (other than a world-wide economic cataclysm) it is very likely the only way to hold in-check, .... out of control Globalism


http://www.sourcewatch.org/images/8/86/CITIGROUP-OCTOBER-16-2005-PLUTONOMY-MEMO.pdf


very interesting article, but I don't think anything will be changing anytime soon.......I guess in the meantime, I'll have to buy stocks in Tech, international finance-emerg markets; etc.....in order to rub elbows with the Globalists.
 LeFouGamboj
Joined: 11/17/2018
Msg: 8538 (view)
 
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 4/3/2019 9:33:24 AM
^


Usually mainstream incumbent politicians like Trump win, so one has to give odds to Trump to win re-election.


IMO.....it won't be automatic for Trump in 2020..........the independents, and the educated white population who voted for him will be thinking long and hard..... before they vote for him again....Trump lovers will vote for him unconditionally!

You can always count on Trump saying/doing stupid things to hamper his own chances....such as:
--pulling the plug on Obama-care before anything new is even put together
--the wall controversy raging on.....without any new immigration reform
--malicious gov't shut downs...to extort money
--witholding the M report

These ^ are all things that democrats can capitalize on greatly........especially health care..........but if they squabble amongst themselves and waste resources.......they can blow a golden opportunity to capitalize on the 2018 wins


Trump is making sure he is a shoe in and no one can be nominated, much like Hillary did in 2016.


And this is another good thing for democrats............Like with HC, you either hate Trump or love him........so the less choice the voters who are on the fence, have with the GOP.........the more the democrats will benefit
 
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