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 Author Thread: How do you handle the freaks?
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 14 (view)
 
How do you handle the freaks?
Posted: 6/7/2009 7:52:11 AM
The first and only rule of consensual sex- do not do anything your comfortable with, and extend that right to your partner and do not force them to do anything they are not comfortable with.

Oh, the second rule- make sure they get theirs too.

other than that its all good in the bed room if both parties are willing. There is no right or wrong way to have sex. Sex, like the rest of the human experience is incredibly varied and pleasure is highly personalized. What works for them might not work for, but it probably works for someone else, so just politely get out of the way and find some one your compatible with and let them do the same.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 37 (view)
 
Would you live with someone you want to marry?
Posted: 6/6/2009 11:21:12 AM
I did live with some one before I married them, had to as she was going through a divorce.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 26 (view)
 
forced to be a father?
Posted: 6/6/2009 10:16:16 AM
Unless he was sabotaged, thats his baby and he needs to man up. Don't play if you won't pay.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Money and Dating
Posted: 6/6/2009 10:09:01 AM
When i told my wife to leave her abusive husband and move in with me, I put financial security on the table for her from the git go. She was trapped in hell with 2 small kids and needed secuirty to be able to leave. Now we are happily married and doing great.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 43 (view)
 
Brother or Sister
Posted: 6/5/2009 6:52:49 PM
No sisters so no.

What I find funny is the gut reaction of gross... incest. But in animal husbandry its called line breeding, and the best specimens of the breed come from closed loop breeding with only the occasional injection of fresh DNA to weed out undesirable traits. Almost every pure breed of animal raised and used by man today is the result of incest. I've never heard of it beign done, but technically I guess you could use incest to create near super humans if you were willing to kill or sterilize the offspring that didn't get the right match of genes and breed those who did back to back.

It is this lack of control that has caused such horrible health problems in certain populations and also created the fear of retard babies-where for what ever reason the breeding pool was limited and incest was more common. Add to this the fact that we humans take such a long time to mature mentally after we mature sexually and the chance for abuse of power father-daughter/ mother-son goes way up. And that's not a philosophical debate but assault and a crime.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Daddys advice for his daughter...
Posted: 1/28/2009 5:19:18 PM
I ahve a 4yo step daughter so some of these are a few years ahead still.

1- Life is life, its not fair so don't expect it to be.
2- don't mistake fun for happiness, find happiness and the fun will come natural.
3- Don't hide, fake sucks even if the real you isn't what you want, its what you have to build off of.
4- work hard and you can get to most places you want to go.
5- get checked, use the pill and use a condom. But perhaps more importantly know that your body and heart are priceless so don't give it away to just anyone.
6- Love may be blind, I'm not. Pick a loser and Dad is gonna let both of you know.
7- No he can't spend the night, if you ask your grounded and I will take your keys.
8- if you want to sing- then sing. If you want to dance- then dance, there is no harm in liking what you like.
9- Get good grades, you can thank me later.
10- Your real dad isn't your fault, don't blame yourself.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 46 (view)
 
Conflict in Iran
Posted: 4/16/2006 10:10:02 PM
1st off I would Like to Point out tha tit is the EU taking the lead in this the US is hardly actign unilaterally.


Hasn't every military conflict between two nations, or between two factions of the same nation, been instigated or spun by the people who make and sell the weapons used to fight such wars?


Absolutely not

WW1 was caused by a Bosnian Serb nationalist supported by Serbia. Serbia was not magor arms manufacturer.

WW2 caused by the Allied plundering of Germany following WW1

Korea was caused by Stalin not for money but for politcal and territorial gains

Kuwait, saddma bought wepaosn he did not make them (excpeting a few misisles)

Arab Israeli wars

Chinese civil war

Sudan

various Africa wars

The role of arms suppliers and money in conflcit is actually quite small when it comes to who causes wars.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 15 (view)
 
The shoe-bomber Richard Reid did not really kill anyone.
Posted: 4/16/2006 9:59:08 PM

I can assure you they are not all crazy or fanatical but they are frustrated and poor people.


padilla is an American, Reid is French, most of the 9-11 hijakers had univeristy educations. The bomber soin Spain, London, Bali all were comfratable in Western society. They are not frustrated and poor and thus they are angry. They prescribe ot a religious view that views non-moslems as the enemy and as subhuman. This is a war tha thas been goign on with breif pauses for thousands of years. Persia vs the Greeks, then vs the Romans. The the Arabs converted persia and invaded the holy land which was a Hellenic society. So it became Moslem vs Christian. peopel forget tha tthe crusades were relief missions not invasions. The Invaders were Arab. This is not a war about economics but about whose God is Right.

While msot in the west could care les swho your God is and how you choose to worship him. Th social freedoms we enjoy are viewd as evil by the fanatics. We are satan worshippers fit only for slaughter. And you know what after over a millenia of war if the west decides to say screw it and knock them into the stone age so be it. The quickest way to really end a war is break your enemy so compeletly he has to find a new way of life.


They are not animals. They are human beings. But unfortunately in most of your eyes the life of your pet is more important than the life of an Arab.


yup sure is, but then he is my best friend and doesn't dream of martydom via murder either. And you know what it isn't demonizing either. They did it tothemselves. Looka t the Secterian violence in Iraq. They had freedom and propserity in their hands and they threw it away to kill their neighbor over whose version of allah was right. The Palestinians rejected statehood in order to kill jews. etc ect ect. The litany of hate coming out of that corner of thew world is endless.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 14 (view)
 
The shoe-bomber Richard Reid did not really kill anyone.
Posted: 4/16/2006 9:47:32 PM

I disagree with the OP that the shoe-bomber should only get an "attempted murder" conviction, but I reserve his right to compare Americans who look down their noses at human beings with Nazis as being a valid comparison.


No it is not a valid comparison. Now lets look at the information you sighted.


But from 1849 to 1911 in California, $5 was paid to ANY white citizen who brought native americans in: dead or alive. The federal government reimbursed the state for these fund which were paid out and called "Indian Fighting Costs". In some years, these reimbursements totalled over $1 million. You to the math.


Youa r eof course aware tha tthe Taki-Yokut refused to sign any treaties and were thus treated as a hostile power. Als the als tkilling was in 1907 and occured 4 years afte rthe federal Govement had stepped into try and end the killings.


Also, Native Americans in Florida had their land taken away and given to the settlers by Andrew Jackson, EVEN THOUGH they won a Supreme Court case in which it was ruled the land belonged to them and nobody had a right to run them off it. Jackson just ignored it and had the Army march them on a "trail of tears" to Oklahoma on which at LEAST 1 million were estimated to have died.


Sourc eon the court case pelase. I cannot find it. Also the seminole wer allied with fugitiv eblacks and Maroons and ther eare accusatiosn they were supported by Spain. The Indians were require dot move by the 1830 Indian Removal Act. Was the act just? It passed msuter by the standards of the time. And tha tis the big differnace her ebetween the US and Nazi's. The US did not violated the accpeted norms of behaviour.


Additionally, the US in Viet Nam killed 3 to 4 million during the war, only about 1.1 million of whom were soldiers. The rest were civilians in North Viet Nam, Laos and Cabodia..


Actually the total kille dis 3-4 million on all sides. Of these many are South Vietmenses killed by the Viet Cong or by the communsit after the fall of Saigon. The signel greateat killing zone of the conflict was along the Ho Chi Minh Trail. heres the loss of lif eis uncounted among among the people employed as huiman pack animals by the communist.


Trying to stop the flow of communism!" you might argue... Well, that was Hitler's excuse also... and the reason his financiers in the US funneled millions of dollars to him... and enabled him to take power in Germany....


Hitler wanted lebensraum and systmeatically rape dand pillaged his way across civillised nations on historys worst case of naked agression. While there are parelles if judge dby modern standards. The big differnace is the Nazi's knew wha tthey were doign was wrong. The Indian Holocuast (of which the US is not the worst offender Spain is) was conducted without the modern concepts of genocide. To rightfully judge some one of the apst you have to use a standard their contemporaires would have used.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 5 (view)
 
The Conditions in Amiriya
Posted: 4/16/2006 1:59:18 AM
A Free Kurdistan is not going to happen. The Kurd sin the mountian fastness are landlocked and and none of the nations bordering the area would give them adn their oil access to the worlds markets. The best they can hope for is the Kurds in Ira qwill no longer be seocnd class citizen s and some of that oil revenue on their land willa ctually help them for once.

Oh in defence of the Finns. They beat the Russians in 2 wars (Winter War and the Continuation War) were never at war with the US or a formal member of the Axis Powers. The 2 greatest non Axis aces of all time are Finish. Stalin made a toast in 1953. No one respects a country with a poor army ( a jibe at the Germans) but every one respects a coutnry witha good army. I raise a toast to Finnland (or along those lines).

Aittle bit of trivia. Some of the few semi modern fighter planes the Fins were able to buy afte rthe Winter war were a few dozen Americna F2A Brewster Buffaloes. Thes efighters are often considered the worst fighters produced in the west for all of Wolrd War 2. In the Pacific American and British Pilots were shredded by the legandary zero. Howeve rin the hands of the Finnish Airforce this fighter achieved a kill ratio that wa sunequalled until the F-15 fighter. Finish pilots routinely shot down lend lease Spitfires often cited as one of the best fighters of all time.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 7 (view)
 
The shoe-bomber Richard Reid did not really kill anyone.
Posted: 4/16/2006 1:52:43 AM
Richard Reid di not plot to blow up an ailtiner packed with hundred sof lives. He tried ot blow it up but his sweaty feet and some quick thinking passangers and flight crew stopped him. Doe she deserve the death penalty? Uhmm guys if he had suceeded he would be dead along with a score of inncoent lives.

I ahv emore compassion for Padilla or Mousoui. They ar eboth merely plotters. Reid wa scaught in the act of attempted MASS murder. If he had succeeded not only would all thsoe peopel ahve died but thier families would not have had bodies to bury as the mid atlantic is too deep for recvovery. Thousand spossibly tens of thousand smore airline, tourism, and hotel workers would have lost their jobs and thie families would have been impoverished.

So if the govement decides that his deathwish is to be granted minus all the victims he planne don tkaing with him. Well I guess we have our first federal case of assisted suicide.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Depleted Uranium and why nobody wants to discuss it.
Posted: 4/14/2006 11:35:00 PM
Of Couse saddam had WMD's. Tha tis not biegn debated. The question is when did he get rid of them and why. he acted like he ahd them up until just before the invasion.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 9 (view)
 
How high will it have to go?
Posted: 4/14/2006 4:45:29 AM

The sad thing is that the politicians rake in so much from gas taxes, that they are very unlikely to be interested in keeping the price low, they are after all making money off of this too.


gas taxes are per gallon they ar enot basae don the pric eof a gallon. Even if oil wer egiven to us free with no purchase price the taxe swoudl still be aorund 37 cents or so per gallon.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Depleted Uranium and why nobody wants to discuss it.
Posted: 4/13/2006 8:33:31 PM

Would you let your children play in an area where these weapons have been used against hard targets??


of couse not, do you know how dangeorus a battlefield is? All sort sof toxic chemicals, fuels, unexploded ammo and ordnace, body parts, barbed wire, jagged metal. Thats like asking me if I would let my kids play in the middle of a highway. it has nothign to do with radioactivity.

Now if your askign me would i allow my kids ot be epxosed ot the elvel of radiation put out by discharged DU dust. Sure, my son has a cell phone, plays on the computer, is surorned by electricla devices, high tension power lines and flouecent lights are every where. I liv ein the south where radon is prevalent and must be monitored and he likes to play outside in the Sun.

Why are American kids who get daily doses of radiation severla times more severe than what the backgorund levels are in Iraq not getting cancer at the same rates? Clean water
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Depleted Uranium and why nobody wants to discuss it.
Posted: 4/13/2006 4:53:20 PM

^^^ and of course you being a pilot and a war mongerer makes you a specialist on du. I fully agree with you when you say " It's exactly this type of idiocy when you have some moron activist "lecturing" about something he has NO idea about which causes so much panic"


1 he is not a warmonger he is a war fighter there is a differance.

warmonger
Dictionary
war·mon·ger (wôr'mung'g?r, -mong'-) pronunciation
n.

One who advocates or attempts to stir up war.
war'mon'ger·ing adj. & n.

As a commissioned officer in his antiosn armed forces he is divorced form the politcal decisions on the use of force. In fact several intenrational treaties colelctively called the Laws of Armed Conflict specifically sheild him from politcal culpability. As an officer (or even as enlisted) he might indee face the ultimate penalty for failure to follow lawful orders. becuase he must assume this risk the defintion of wha tis and is not a alwful orde ris very narrowly defiend. he cannot refuse an order based on personal beleifs.

You do him and every memebe rof every nations armed services a diservice when you equate thier servive withtheir politcal masters intent.

You've already epxressed joy at the suffeirgn soem vets may be enduring. Karma is a **** and wishign ill of others tends to back fire.

Now will some pleas eprovide a single double blind study with adeqaute cotnrols to show how DU and not the toxic water is to blame? Or how a mere 100 tons or so of DU dust can blanket an entire contient thousands of miles away along with all the land in between.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 6 (view)
 
How high will it have to go?
Posted: 4/13/2006 4:28:50 PM
If it got us off oil quicker why not? or would you rather hav ehtem use thier money to supress technology?
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 5 (view)
 
How high will it have to go?
Posted: 4/13/2006 1:53:54 PM
Yup it's a conspiracy of the white house. I gues sthe new and emerging markets liie India and China tha thave sucked up the excess and tightedned supplie scombiend with 20 year sof no new refienry production coupled with a devestatign hurircane seaosn that knocke dmuch of the remaining refining capacity off line has nothing to do with it.

In fact OPEC only acocutns for 30% of Wolrd oil production. They are also enlargign thier production capacity to 38mbl/day by 2010. If you want cheaper gas then pressure our natiosn leaders to build more refieneries. It will reduce bottlenecking provide jobs and reduce gas prices.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 3 (view)
 
The Conditions in Amiriya
Posted: 4/13/2006 1:00:19 PM

Being PC has nothing to do with it, this is becoming beyond what I had imagined, a powderkeg, and the US does bear responsibility for the abysmal security conditions inside of Iraq.


The onyl way the US is culpable is if you favor letitgna dictator run the region by force and repression. The uS is not the cause of the strife. We simply removed a barrier that had the opressed held in check. The same violence wa sgoign on under saddam. except backed by the bigger and better guns his Republican Guards (most of whom were Tikriti like Saddam himself) got to bully and brutlaize every one else.

if anyone nation bears culpability it is Britian. They pulled out with dividing iraq up along lines that would make stable countries. Instead they rewarded certain people with patronage and made them kings. Iraq is an artifical construct. At leas tthe uS is tryign to forg ein them a single national identity.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 23 (view)
 
Peak Oil Production - Anyone else heard of it?
Posted: 4/13/2006 12:50:09 PM
douglasinmotown,

oops forgot a zero it's actually 250,acres or 382 sq miles world wide of the emissions trees. BTW had you bothere dot read my article instea dof popping off. You would relaise these trees are not naturla they are a emissiosn gas collecting devive tha tis manufactured. each acre of these scrubbers can consume 90,000 tons of C02 a year.

To steal your line go get a clue
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 4 (view)
 
How high will it have to go?
Posted: 4/13/2006 1:40:04 AM
Why would I want to ride a bike?

I like my Z car it gets decent mileage (about 25mpg out of a V-6 with 188,000 miles) is high performance, corners like it is on rails, is a collector item and gets me where I am going much quicker than a bike can and it deleivers me to my destination nice and dry and without my hair being mussed or clothes soiled.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 3 (view)
 
How high will it have to go?
Posted: 4/13/2006 12:57:01 AM
They don't care about Bush, they care aobut thier own careers.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 2 (view)
 
How high will it have to go?
Posted: 4/13/2006 12:24:47 AM
This a copy of an emial i fire doff to John Boozman my congressman

Hello Sir,

Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to read this. I do apologize in advance for the somewhat blunt nature of my missive. However the occurances that have compelled me to write must be addressed in a forthright manner.

I am writing you to express my outrage over two situations. The firs tissue I would like to address is the price of gas (home) and gasoline. price have now reached the point where they are going from a burden to a crushing economic weight. Central Arkansas is now seeing prices we heard about existing in such areas as California. Oil companies are recording record profits and the much publicised hearings did nothing to help your constituents at all. You were not only elected to lead but to serve our interests. These prices are gouging plain and simple. What are doing to reign in the corporate greed that is hitting your district so hard?

The second issue that I feel led to address is immigration. Central Arkansas is home to one of the nations biggest offenders in the hiring of illegals. Tyson Foods and others like them use illegal labor to inflate profits by depressing wages. This is money being stolen from your district. The job pressure drives wages down across the board stunting economic development and prosperity. Now we have these thieves, because that is what they are, they steal jobs. Protesting in our streets and our elected leadership is planning on rewarding them for their law breaking.

The mere fact that the American Government is planning on rewarding criminals from many other nations at our expense is a travesty. I do not know what your polling data suggest but in talks with those around me any congressman who votes for the mislabeled guest worker bill will not be getting any votes. My associates are tired of being treated as if they are stupid by this nations elected leadership. For them to be guest workers they would have to have been invited in. They arrived uninvited and stole American jobs. The proposed amnesty cannot be allowed to past. We don't need it, what we need is for you to push for tough enforcement of existing laws and a strengthening of the border. As long as our border leaks like a sieve and companies can hire illegals without risk the situation will only get worse.

Respectfully
Mr. Jason XXXXXX
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 7 (view)
 
MR. PRESIDENT, I'M HEADED TO MEXICO (political satire)
Posted: 4/12/2006 11:46:25 PM

Like I've said earlier, I can't fight you on the word of law - it's on your side of this issue. my position is that the law needs to change


Your right the law does need to change.

1) It needs to be federally prohibite dofr a signel tax dollar to be spent on illegal aliens. No schooling no social services and if they go to ahospital they leave form the recovery ward (after treatment) to an INS center for deportation.

2) NAFTA need sot be repealed and America needs to adopt a fair trade policy backed by tariffs to enforce fair trade.

3) Any company cuaght hirign illegla aliens needs to be fined the total value of the wages paid x10 upon conviction in a court of law.

4) Bring the US military home where we really need it. Bring our troops home and seal the borders

5) Round up the current illegals and send them home en masse.

I am sorry but the American goverments repsonsabilites do not lie with fiixng mexico's poverty. they lie with preventign that from happeinign here. Illegals lower wages, stress social safety nets, are crimminals by their very presence.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 21 (view)
 
Peak Oil Production - Anyone else heard of it?
Posted: 4/12/2006 11:33:51 PM
Heres what I would do about the emissions. Ohh BTW human output is 22 billion tons of CO2 a year. it will take only 25,000 acres to clean up all of human kinds emissions. Now that might seem like a big number but it is only 39.0625 sq. miles world wide. Double it and you not only reach zero emissions but go into a massive 22 billion ton per year negative (not sure if that would be any safer for the enviroment than the extra 22 billion tons)

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1590/is_13_59/ai_100879581

As for Fusion we can already do it. Or did you not bother to read what I posted. It is simply not economically viable YET.

Nuclear Fusion
Key Concepts
Nuclear fusion occurs when two small nuclei join together to form a larger nucleus. A large amount of energy is released during fusion.

Nuclear fusion occurs within the sun and the stars.

Fusion in the sun is believed to occur in steps. Four protons produce one Helium atom atom, two positrons, and two neutrinos. The first two steps shown below must occur twice before the third step takes place:

Fusion equation

H+H > H+ev

Fusion equation
H+H > He

Fusion equation
He+He > He+ 2H

Fusion in stars produces all of the chemical elements found on Earth.

Sunlight is energy released from fusion reactions in the sun.

Examining the spectral characteristics of stars may provide a better understanding of fusion.

Fusion is believed to be possible only under extremely high temperatures. For this reason it is referred to as a thermonuclear reaction.

The use of nuclear fusion for commercial purposes is currently being investigated.

One reaction that may eventually be able to produce controlled fusion is:
Fusion equation

Fusion has the potential of providing an abundant supply of energy. The fuel needed for fusion is readily available.

Deuterium deuterium must be extracted from water. (About 0.015% of the hydrogen in water is exists as deuterium.) Tritium (Tritium) must be made, since it does not occur naturally in sufficient quantities.

Tritium is radioactive (a beta emitter), with a half-life of 12.3 years. It is also toxic.

Complete fusion reactions produce no long-life products. Induced radioactivity is produced in the reactor container due to neutron flux. Also, tritium is radioactive and quite toxic.


--------------------------here is the important part-------------------------------------------------

Sustaining a fusion reaction may be possible by containing the reactants in a high temperature form of matter called plasma. Plasma particles can be contained within a magnetic field. This principle is referred to as magnetic confinement. The purpose of magnetic confinement is to avoid heat loss, not to prevent the walls of the confinement vessel from vaporizing, as often believed.

Another possible technique for sustaining a fusion reaction is inertial confinement, in which a fuel pellet containing the fusion reactants is bombarded by a high energy source such as a laser or an electron beam.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Depleted Uranium and why nobody wants to discuss it.
Posted: 4/12/2006 11:11:19 PM

incidentally, Tigris and Euphrates are too shallow for dumping/hiding shit.


You might want to read the following articles.

http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/481

^^^ Although it mentions DU in fact very little DU was use din or aorund baghdad. EWe use dbombs not shells. In the uS a***nal DU is use dofr tank cannon and 30mm shels on the A-10 none of which saw much action Baghdad.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04/06/wpois06.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/04/06/ixnewstop.html

mmm Mustard Gas and Cyanide must taste pretty good when mixed with river water.

These twoa rticles show very clearly that rahter than DU we should be looking a tthe water. Oil byproducts, war damage, sewage, dumping, toxins et all we know are present and know can cause the rises in certain diseases some are trying to blame on DU.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Peak Oil Production - Anyone else heard of it?
Posted: 4/12/2006 7:44:38 PM

Peak oil production is not a myth


ye sit is it seeks to apply the law of dimishing returns to a product in which technology has provided another 400+ years of supply.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Depleted Uranium and why nobody wants to discuss it.
Posted: 4/12/2006 5:22:00 PM
Regarding the iraqi babies. many people (Iragies) cliamed that saddam dumpe dmuch of his nuclear, Biological and chemicla manufacturign equipment and chemicals into the Tigris and Euphrates ot hide them from inspectors in the 90's. I don't know if any of thisw as ever proven but it need sot be checked out. Wate rpolluted that badly is probably a bigger culprit than mildly radiactive dust.

I reembe rthe days of multi or non eyed fish in the rivers.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Peak Oil Production - Anyone else heard of it?
Posted: 4/12/2006 5:10:56 PM

If fusion were feasible, it would be commercialized by now, if not here, then at least in France and Russia. Very bright people have been pursuing harnessing it for the last fifty or sixty years, and have failed.


1- Fusion power is useful energy generated by nuclear fusion reactions. In this kind of reaction two light atomic nuclei fuse together to form a heavier nucleus and release energy. The largest current experiment, JET, has resulted in fusion power production somewhat larger than the power put into the plasma, maintained for a few seconds. In June 2005, the construction of the experimental reactor ITER, designed to produce several times more fusion power than the power into the plasma over many minutes, was announced. The production of net electrical power from fusion is planned for the next generation experiment after ITER.

2- The Sun uses Fusion.

Fusion power will be feasable some day. We need to develop the technology


Fossil fuels cannot be made non-polluting.


If we can get emisisons at or below wha tnatural can anturally absorb then they becoem in effect zero polluters. A man at the aptent office once said every thing worth inventign had already been created. This was beofre the car, airplane, cancer drugs, antibiotics etc. Mankind has a antural talent for doign the impoddible. Inthe areas of emissions look at where we are today vs where we were 30 years ago. The biggest polluters are nearly all gone. only a few old coal fire dpwoer plants remian. The EPA has cracjed down on deisels and the US and msot of the west is well on it's way to a green friendly society. The big polluters as emisisosn go now are devleoping countires and the sheer number of cars. Crackign down on China. Mexico, India etc will take intenrational effort. Industry however can provide the answer to car emissions if prodded hard enough.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Peak Oil Production - Anyone else heard of it?
Posted: 4/12/2006 2:06:43 PM
Peak oil is a myth. It rleies on two very false assumptions.

1) The first false assumption is tha tlight sweet crude is the only economically viable type of oil. (supply side peak)

2) The second false assumption is that demand cannot keep up with refining capacity. (demand side)

In dealing with point 1 we probalb yhave indeed reached or will reach the maximum amount of light sweet crude that can be produced. However as demand has driven prices up the other less economically viable oil sources ar enow viable. Oil sands, oil shale and heavy crude are now economically feasable at a price our economy has already adjusted too. $3 a gallon gas in painful but not ruinious. In the US alone there ar eover 3 trillion barrels of non light sweet crude primarily in oil bearing rock. Canada has alberata with oil sands so extensive the conservative estimat eis 200 years worth of oil. Venuzala with it's heavy crude has 3 and a half billion barrels for another 200 years. Then when all else fails ther eis synthetic fuels such as produced by the Axis in World War Two. Although these were low octane in 40's with modern technology I am sure performace can be increased.

What we have in reality is a glut of oil jsut not the super cheap arab oil at $11 a barrel.

In dealing with point 2. Refining has indeed fallen behind consumption demand. But this is artifical and can be reversed within 3 years at any time by building more refineries. And eventually will be. If not doemstically then some third world nation without extensive resources of it's own will build refineries and refine to order. I beleive the current tight oil market will see seriosu relief in the next couple of years as more refienries come on line.


There are lots of alternative fuels. But in terms of quantity and efficiency, all of them put together do not even come close to oil. But maybe you are right. We might sidestep it somehow. But the present day energy consumption for oil cannot be matched by any or all alternative sources, or so I have read. Might be interesting, might be more doomsday propoganda. Happily I do like to bike.


Developing an alternative enrgy source is a waste of time until we have fusion power. It is the only energy source that promises to be all three, efficent, clean and cheap. Until then we nee dot devote moen yinto making oil less polluting. Afte rall oil it self is part of the antural enviroment. The damage comes form the imporoer disposal of it's waste products after we get done using it.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Depleted Uranium and why nobody wants to discuss it.
Posted: 4/10/2006 10:49:44 PM

from the doctor and the texts presented here, I'd say someone's in a state of denial about a real thing.


On the left we have Doctor wacho and Dr. Quack On the right we have leadign universities and the UN.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Depleted Uranium and why nobody wants to discuss it.
Posted: 4/10/2006 8:30:52 PM

there is justice after all.


That is just sick.

DU dust like lead dust is bad for people. Same with absestos and a whole rang eof other things. The idea that the small amounts used can contamiante an entire area is absurd.

Wher eis the rpeutable science behind this. All that has been presente dso far is better fit for a tabloid.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 21 (view)
 
Conflict in Iran
Posted: 4/10/2006 2:23:51 PM
You got that date right. I posted an article form the apst to show that the IAEA is indee dconcerned aobut iran. The current article and investigation are also to anrrow in scope to say what you want them to say. They ar enot proof that iran doe snot ahv enuclear ambitions. They ar eonly proof that Iran is palying it safe for now while the international spotlight is shinnign on them. Once Iran has the technology and intial fule source shter eis no way to stop them from creatign a bomb. This is why the iranina nuclea rprogram needs otb e stopped or subjecte dot safeguards that will prevent the mullahs from getting enough fissil material to build a bomd.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Conflict in Iran
Posted: 4/10/2006 12:54:44 PM
VIENNA, Austria -- The International Atomic Energy Agency adopted a resolution Saturday criticizing Iran for hiding nuclear activities, although it acknowledged the Islamic republic's increasing openness in the U.N. inspection process.

A senior Bush administration official called the decision "very significant" and "a big win" for the United States.

An Iranian official, saying his country's nuclear program is "exclusively peaceful," issued a statement indicating that the United States was trying to impose its will on the IAEA.

Iran announced a freeze for now of U.N. inspections to show its displeasure with the resolution.

The resolution said declarations made by Iran about its program in October "did not amount to the complete and final picture of Iran's past and present nuclear programs."

The board deplored Iran's omissions in an October letter that was to have provided "the full scope of Iranian nuclear activities" and a "complete centrifuge R&D (research and development) chronology."

It also notes "with concern" that Iran and Libya's "conversion and centrifuge programs share several common elements, including technology largely obtained from the same foreign sources."

Iran's declaration, it said, didn't refer "to its possession of P-2 centrifuge design drawings and to associated research, manufacturing, and mechanical testing activities" and it repeats the concerns of Director-General Mohamed ElBaradei over Iran's "activities related to experiments on the production and intended use of polonium-210."

The resolution expressed concern about the omission of "two mass spectrometers used in the laser enrichment program; and designs for the construction of hot cells at the Arak heavy water research reactor -- which require further investigation, not least as they may point to nuclear activities not so far acknowledged by Iran."

It notes that ElBaradei has reported that while Iran has been "actively cooperating with the agency in providing access to locations requested by the agency" and notes progress in its cooperation, it says Iran "has fallen short of what is required."

The resolution comes after much negotiating. The U.S. draft was passed unanimously after the United States agreed to drop a paragraph saying the centrifuges were produced in workshops owned by Iran's industrial industry, the senior administration official said.

After that, ElBaradei was able to sell it to the non-aligned movement members on the board. The United States also was successful in maintaining the section that deplored the hiding of P-2 centrifuges.

The official said Iran will have to explain the issues by the next board of governors meeting in June. The resolution also decided to wait until its June meeting "consideration of progress in verifying Iran's declarations" and how to respond to the omissions. That would put off action on the matter by the U.N. Security Council.

Meanwhile, Kenneth Brill, U.S. chief delegate at the Vienna talks, issued remarks saying Iran is "continuing to pursue a policy of denial, deception and delay." Brill compared Libya and Iran in his statement, saying Libya is demonstrating commitment to "reversing course" and eliminating its weapons mass destruction programs.

But, "time after time, when IAEA inspectors have confronted the Iranian government with verified facts it could no longer contest, Iran has revised its story and blamed others for its duplicity," Brill said.

He said the IAEA needs to "follow up" on whether Pakistani nuclear program founder and leader A.Q. Khan could have provided weapons design to Iran.

"We are concerned that Iran's February announcement -- that it will suspend centrifuge assembly and testing, as well as component manufacture 'to the furthest extent possible' -- may represent another tactical diversion, and that Iran may intend to continue its programs in defiance of the board's resolutions."

In an apparent reference to the United States, Amir Zamaninia, the Iranian diplomat representing his country at the IAEA, said, "a solution is being imposed -- and I think I am using the expression with true definition of the word -- on the board by a single country through few associates nonetheless."

"There is a fervent unjustified desire to maintain undue pressure on Iran through misrepresentation of facts, overexaggeration of minor misgivings, and excessive prejudgments."

State Department Producer Elise Labott contributed to this report

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Is Iran currently building a bomb while the eyes of thw world are focuse don it? Probalby not would be my guess. Do they wan't to as soona sthey think they can get away with it? Based on statements made by irans president I would say probalby.

The technology to enrich fule and amkes wepaosn grade fissil material is identical. This is why that capability needs to be deneid to a nation tha topenly supports terrorism.

Stop playign the politcla shell game and face relaity. an islam-bomb in the hads of an unstable group of religious zealots is not good for the world.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Conflict in Iran
Posted: 4/10/2006 12:54:26 PM
oops
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Conflict in Iran
Posted: 4/10/2006 10:18:39 AM

but the IEAE said they went to Iran and couldn't find whatever place the US had Satellite photos of


I don't know who the IEAE is but the IAEA (international Atomic Energy Agency) has indeed condemned Iran's nuclear program.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Depleted Uranium and why nobody wants to discuss it.
Posted: 4/9/2006 10:16:10 PM
It just doesn't stack up that so many thousands can be sick just three years later as a result of Depleted Uranium weapons being used. And if the DU is that bad, then why are no US tankers (who sit behind 500mm of DU heavy armor) not sick and dying already?


Actually it's only about an inch or so thick. I was a US Army tanker and spent time in both the M1A1Hm and M1A2. I don't have cancer. I don't know any tankers or mechanics who do. I mean the M1A1 carries a couple of tons of the stuff suuposedly emitting harmful rays.

DU is no mor edangeorus to people than lead or unexploded ordinance. But the hate America crowd won't accpet science. They are as bad the evolutionist.


Basically a normal shell will tear a tank open when it explodes. When a DU shell explodes it burns as it impacts, thus vaporizing the tank, so to speak. When this happens "particulates" are released that are radioactive and enter the soil, plants, water and any living tissue it encounts.


Not true at all. There are 2 types of rounds for killing enemy armor. KE and CE Kinetic energy and chemicla energy. CE rounds like HEAT (High Explosive Anti-Tank) use explosive shaped to transfe rand invert the explosion onto a copper cone which creates a jet of metal that has incredible cutting power. KE or Kintetic energy rounds like sabots use veleocity and round density to punch through armor. As they punch the amror they push a plug of plasma ahead of them as the armor converts and acts like a liquid under the incredible force bieng applied. It is this plasma plug that cuases secondary explosions as things like fule, ammo, and hydraulic fluid cook off.

Both CE and KE rounds began haivng problems in the 60's withthe devleopment of composite armors. These provided a levle of protection superior to stell the old tungsten penetrators for KE rounds would fail to penetrate. This led to a breif increase in gun size form aorund 100-115m to 120-125mm by the 90's. This is aobut the upper limit of gun size as ammo takes space and bigge rammo means less rounds. What wa sneeded was a new mateiral.

DU fits the bill. It is incredibly dense it takes DU amror to stop a DU round. and it is self sharpening meanign it does not blunt or pancake and is elss prone to richochet. Also when it impacts a dense object it gives off a breif burst of radiation in the form of heat which helps destory the target.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Conflict in Iran
Posted: 4/9/2006 9:55:02 PM

Do you worry that the current tension with Iran over their Nuclear program will escalate into a full blown war. Potential consequnces of intervention and non-intervention?


Intervention-

Most liely to take the form of stealth bomber attacks to destroy the facility

Downside The moslems scream about yet another uS outrage and the peacekbiks go one the politcal warpath again. Locla enviromental daamge posibly hudnreds dead.

Upside Iran dosn't ge tnukes

Non-Internvention

Upside no imediate conflict.

Downside- if iran does ge tnukes and uses them it's munich all over again with potentially millions dead, desturction of wide spread holy and hsitoric sites, and massive disruption to the worlds oil supply
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 446 (view)
 
Abortions soon to become illegal again
Posted: 4/8/2006 12:19:40 AM

Even if you posit that the z/e/f is a person, with all the rights thereof, it doesn't follow that another person can be forced to use her body, against her will, to incubate it, and use her body's resources for it.


Not quite true. 4 points

1) Donor babies concoeved for a compatable boen marrow doantion hav ehtier bodies used without cisnent and at signifigant risk to themselves. Thus a liivng breathing person can be force to have their body used agianst thier will for anothers benfit.

2) In the case of pregancy the parasitic attachment is not formed by the bady but by the mothers actions.The baby does not invade the mother and take over, it is brought into bieng by the mothers actions.

3) Womabn ahve succesfulyl sued to sue the stored sperm of dea dhusbands to create a pregancy. This is a direct case of someone enforcign their will on another in the area of reproduction. Dead or not if reproduction is a choice then some one who cannot give consent should not be forced to reproduce dead or alive.

4) Despite the double standard advance dby woman cosnent to sex is indeed cosnent to pregancy......................... if your a man.

The whole idea of reproductive privacy and control is a myth.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 12 (view)
 
USA -- Cause of Global Instability?
Posted: 4/8/2006 12:05:00 AM
lets look at some of the evil things America is doign today

Tusnamai relief
Earth Quake relief
Famine relief
free trade tha tis most definately not fair to the US
protecting Europes oil
Stopping genocide in the Balkans
Converting Russian nukes into fule at tax pay cost and then buyign them form Russia
Internantional space station
Hubble telescope
Americna Universities and teachers world wide
support for Interpol
The single biggest contributor to the UN's budget
Trying to build stable countries in Iraq and Afghansitan
Aids releif for Africa
Researching non oil based energy
High yeild crops that feed the world
Pushing for a Palestinian state and peace in Palestine
Fightign global terrorism
Increased anti-piracy patrols
Defending Taiwan, South Korea and Japan from larger agressive communist neighbors

Now some have pointe dout a few cases where America made mistakes and betrayte dit's ideals. Now lets list the palces where we got it right.

England, France, Belgium, Norway, Gemrany, Japan, Luxembourg. Holland, Italy, Japan, China, South Korea, Burma, Austrialia, Micronesia, malyasia, Indonesia, Singapore, Denmark, Russia, latvia, Lithuainia, Esotnia, Ukraine, Poland, Romania, Hungary, Greece, Macedona, Croatia, Slovakia, Chezk Republic, Austria, New Zealand, Philipines, Saipan, Kuwait, Belorus, India

There are a few more but I am tired. What they all hav ein common is the fac tthat they exist today as free coutnries able to chart thier own course and destiny.

Yup were so evil.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 445 (view)
 
Abortions soon to become illegal again
Posted: 4/7/2006 11:41:32 PM

Because you say so? Don't have an abortion if you are against them, you do not get to make that choice for others. What your opinion is makes not a whit of difference to what the woman decides. You are right, there are plenty of options. Abortion is one of them. MYOB. Period.


Not this same old tired arguement all over again Babs. We both know society has th right to regulate behaviour and conduct. Speeding, drugs, business ethics the list is almsot endless. Any place the goverment feels the actions of the indivual are a danger to society as a whole. Wiping out a good chunck of the next generation is a threat. The very fact that SCOTUS once said that somehow abortion was outside the realm of estalbished precendent excpet along narrowly defined lines will eventually lead to it being reversed.

Deny it all you want but eventually the right to elective abortion on demand in the USA will be a thing of the past. Remembered like slavery and the Indian Wars as a black eye on our national character for slaying our unborn for personal greed.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 104 (view)
 
pit bull dog ban
Posted: 4/7/2006 7:23:09 PM

^^I assume you are a pit bull owner? So am I. They are not all dog/other animal aggressive.
I have owned 3, and none of them were.


Ye si owna pit a former game dog who wa snot put down becuase he was so gentle with people. You have lucked out so far, but just like guns better safe than sorry. Every pit has the gentic trait to be animal agressive.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 99 (view)
 
pit bull dog ban
Posted: 4/7/2006 3:31:37 PM

Genetics which means Relatives in the dogs background is the #1 reason for aggression.


That statement is so true. You knew know when a pitbull will "turn on" and become animal agressive. it's in their blood. Tryign to undue without serious training that is like triygn to teacha bird not to fly or afish not to swim. Understanding and accpeting these tendancies is the key. Love and nurtrign alone will not in amny cases counter act the natural drive to fight.

ge tonto the pitbull forums and every few months there is some owner who comes home to fight thier house turned intoa charnel house. These dogs ar ewihtout a doubt the best breed of dog for some people. But they are sports cars, very high maintence. If you cannot deovut the time and energy to seriosu trianign then this type probably isn't for you.

My dog Scipio is extremily animal agressive. This means as his owner it is upto me to kepe him out of trouble. Like runnign in front cars he des not know and cannot grasp that fighting is wrong and dangerous. This means I don't go to off leash parks, sue a stout leather collar and never let him run free unelss I ahve inspected the area, it is just me and him and I know he cannot ge tout of the area.

My dog gets lovin and petting every day, he is totally spoiled but this has done nothing to damper his natural drive.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 92 (view)
 
pit bull dog ban
Posted: 4/7/2006 9:55:26 AM

The comment made about blood lines having a lot to do with temperment is such a joke....


No it's not APBT's wer enot bred for conformation of size. They wrere bred for 3 mental traits. Gameness,, agression, and stability.

These dogs are anturally animal agresive but should be stable aroudn people beucas eof the anture of old school dog fighting in which 3 people were in the pit with the two dogs. (2 handlers and a ref). The two ahndelrs would be handlign the dogs mid fight after a turn so these dogs were bred to enver bite man.

Howeve rin the 70's a man went ona crusade to stop dogfighting which he considered a vicous blood sport. This publacized what had been an undergorund apst time. He found a willing ally in the Human Society and they filled the emdia with reports of pit bulls beign fed kittens and ahving their front fee tcut off so they could get lower to the ground.

These reports found thier way into the inner city wher euneducate dthugs could not understand the differance between a fighting dog and an attack dog. They wante dthis canine monster they read aobut. Unforunately all they could get were scatter bred curs with out the long pedigrees of stable behaviour. They then took these curs and bred them up in size and for raw agression without any of the controls dogmen used.

What we have today are two distinct breeds (actually 5) called by the same name pitbull. In truth the breeds are

AKC- Staffordshire Bull Terrier which is all show no go

UKC- American Pitbull Terrier which is mostly show with very little go

ADBA- American Pitbull Terrier which is all go

American Bull Dog- An attmept to recreate the early American pit dog based on the assumption tha tthe APBT isn't that creature depsites reams of evidecne sayign it is includign pictures and pedigrees.

Pitbull- The scatterbred curs dogs that may or maynot have real APBT blood in their viens who are genrally twice the twice and onyl half as happy as a real APBT.

I am not condoning modern dogfighting. The ADBA ha srightfully switche dot weight pulling to test gameness. Howeve rthe old Dogmen like Coldy, Tudor, and heinzel gave the wolrd an incredibly robust, loving, smart and loyal dog. The real APBT is the msot versatile dog in the world. It holds more championshsips in more disciplines than any othe rbreed. Herdin, sledding,. rescue, therapy, seeign eye, shutzhund, fighting, weightpulling etc. These dogs are favore d for therapy work because thier high pain tolerance and gentle disposstion allows rough behaviour and accidental hurts to occur with otu a bite.

In WW! the APBT was the offical mascot dog of America. Sgt studdy an APBT WW1 vet known as the hero dog visite dhte whit ehouse 4 tmes and Petey the Pup of our gang was a duel registered UKC/APBT-AKC/SBT. Cheyenee and Dakota can be found runnign around Northern Califonia in bright orange vest lookign for lost hikers and hunters. This is the type of temeprment of a real pitbull.

How do you tell them apart? Well if the dog your looking at is over 70 pounds and the head looks like a massive block of stone it's probalby a cur dog. A real fightign dog (or one decndded form a real fightign dog is thin and light ralrey exceeding 50 lbs. The mor ebone a dog has the more energy it takes to move it around and the more force has to be exerted to stop it's motion.

Here is the ABDA standard for the head. Note oints 1,2, and 5

B. Head

1. Head size balanced in relationship to the rest of the body

2. 2/3 the width of the shoulders

3. Wedge shaped when viewed from the top or side, round when viewed from the front.

4. Cheeks 25% wider than the neck at the base of the skull

5. The length from the nose to the stop should equal the length from the stop to the back of the head.

6. The bridge of the muzzle is well developed. The fill in under the eyes should be wider than the head at the base of the ears.

7. The head should be deep from the top of the head to the bottom of the jaw.

8. Straight box like muzzle

9. Lips tight

10. Teeth, incisors should meet in the front in a scissor bite. Canines should be wide at the base and taper to the end, top canines fitting tightly together behind the bottom canines. They should be sound and healthy with none missing.

11. Eyes, small and deep set. Elliptical when viewed from the front, triangular when viewed from the side.

12. Ears- no preference should be given to cropped or uncropped ears, except to enhance the overall attractiveness of the individual dog.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 8 (view)
 
USA -- Cause of Global Instability?
Posted: 4/6/2006 1:19:37 PM
The uS is not an empire.

When our miltiary goes some where we kick the bad guys out and giv ethe coutnry back to it's people. If we wante dot be an empire our flag would alreadybe flyign ove rmsot of the world. Just the natiosn the US has liberated, freed, and restored ot dmeocracy owuld make the uS the single biggest empir eof all time. But were not itnerested in conquest. Our coutnrey is beign enough diverse enough and rich enough that we don't need hte micro antiosn of the world.

Do we act arogantly on occasion? Sure we do but if the res tof the world would take of it's own problems instead of runnign to the US we could stay home. Everyhwer ehte US Military is currently located is a reuslt of the res tof the world not policing their own back yards.

BTW the Millenium bomb plot terrorist and severla of the 9-11 hijackers did indeed enter via Canada. Funny thing a man witha DWOI can't enter canada but a graduate of a raidcal madrasa can.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 69 (view)
 
pit bull dog ban
Posted: 4/5/2006 9:29:51 PM

Again muzzles are good ideas for dogs,and not to mention some humans....don't be so obtuse, if you have a dog at home chained, it would be freaking stupid to muzzle him.
If he is going to be running around freely then muzzle it...or someone will get a muzzle loader and take care of it.


Talk about obtuse

Fist off chainign a dog is crule and elads to more bites. A chained dog is three times more likely to bite than a loose dog.

Secondly. Taking an action tha tmakes the dog uncomftrable and can cause it to b ein danger of ove rheatign is not a solution. That slike handcuffing a 2 year old when you go to the store. Muzzels, electric collars and other torture devices are a way ot try and cheat. If dog owners were require dot take obeidnac etrainign with their pets there would be fa rless problems.

Thirdly, If you owned a pit you ar epart of the problem. If you don't understand the breed and it's tendancies and incliantiosn how can you possibly train it? You work with the animal and it's deisre to please you by doing things it already wants to do. This is one reaosn weight pulling is so popular in the legitmate APBT crowd. These dogs love to work and ahve anatural drive (gameness) second to none.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 63 (view)
 
pit bull dog ban
Posted: 4/5/2006 7:49:48 PM
Cougar no offence but your full of sh*t


im completly for this ban...and all breeds of mean dogs and figthing dogs. Its in thier nature to be aggressive...yah you can train them all you want..but they can snap and bite at a loving owner or a kid givign it a hug...i have seen it in the news...


That is one of the oldest and msot misudnerstood myths about pitbulls that they have locking jaws. They don't wha tthey do have like bull dogs, bull terriers and many mastiffs and other large breeds is a bite and hold trait bred into them. Ussaly for cath work with pigs and cattle. The do not lock their jaw they refuse to elt go. Kill a pitbulla dn the jaw muscles go slack and the bite releases. You can also use a break stick to force open thier jaws via a presure point behind the molars.


Heres a radical idea muzzle your dog around people or face a fine. If you take the dog for a walk muzzle it, simple as that, yet it doesn't happen.


That is a stupid idea. Muzzels ar edangerous to the dog any timethe temprature climbs. Dogs hav eonyl one way of cooling, panting. Muzzels inhibit this and can lead to heat stroke. They also get in the way of drinking water.


Does one breed attack more than others yes, pits and roths just check the stats with the CDC.
Some dogs have a boxer mentality, you can feed a boxer steak all day and massage their body as well as their mind...but when the bell rings watch out.


Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R

No offence but bite and kill are differnet words. You ar ealso assumign the two breeds ar einherently bad. However i would point out that these 2 breeds are by far the two most common breeds in America and ar ealso the preferred breeds of the thugs and bangers who need a dog triane dot attack and gun to feel like a man.

Although pit bull mixes and Rottweilers are most likely to kill and seriously maim, fatal attacks since 1975 have been attributed to dogs from at least 30 breeds.

Between the years of 1979 and 1998 more than 300 people were killed by dog bite injuries, according to dog bite statistics. Twenty five different canine breeds have been identified in fatal dog bite accidents. Rottweilers and Pit Bulls account for approximately half of all dog bite related fatalities. However, dog bite statistics reveal that mixed breed canine types are involved in bite injuries more often than pure breeds. Depending on the popularity of particular breeds, dog bite statistics change from year to year and from one part of the country to another.

There are certain canine characteristics that dog bite statistics indicate to be most common of dog bite perpetrators. Male dogs and those between the ages of one and five years tend to bite more often than female dogs or dogs that are older than six. Dog bite statistics show that unaltered canines are three times more likely to bite than their spayed or neutered counterparts. Dog bite statistics from the Center for Disease Control have found that a dog that is chained up is almost three times more likely to bite a human being than an unchained dog.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 54 (view)
 
pit bull dog ban
Posted: 4/5/2006 4:31:56 PM

im completly for this ban...and all breeds of mean dogs and figthing dogs. Its in thier nature to be aggressive...yah you can train them all you want..but they can snap and bite at a loving owner or a kid givign it a hug...i have seen it in the news...


I am aganst breed specific bans they don't work. people who want mean dogs will get them. Kinda like guns it's not the weapon but who is behind it.

Pitbulslar esome of the most loving dogs out there. They just adore their families. However they come with certain tendancies. One of these is animal agression. A smart APBT owner knows this and act slike his dog is animal agressive at all times. My pit is a certafied theraputic pet. H eis as friednly as the day is long towards all things on 2 legs. However he is darth vader vs 4 legged critters. This does not make him deservign of death. It makes him deserving of an owner who love shim enough to keep him out of trouble depsite his antural tendancies to look for a scrap.

Fixing the pitbull problem is easy. make people get licensed if they wish to own a alrge powerful breed (Pitbull, Akita, Sheprard, Caine Corso, Dog Argentia, Americna Bulldog, Rottweiler, Doberman, Dalmatian etc) A colored lamianted picture ID you ahv eot carry at all times. No license the dog gets sezied and destroyed. Make the licence bree dspecific and have reputabl e breeders issue certificate sof completion on breed knowledge and basic dog owership and obeidance. Then require a renewal every year and renewal bieng dependant on the dog completing a modified canine good citizenship course.

The licence revenue coudl go to animal shelters and adoption services.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 53 (view)
 
pit bull dog ban
Posted: 4/5/2006 4:31:20 PM

im completly for this ban...and all breeds of mean dogs and figthing dogs. Its in thier nature to be aggressive...yah you can train them all you want..but they can snap and bite at a loving owner or a kid givign it a hug...i have seen it in the news...


I am aganst breed specific bans they don't work. people who want mean dogs will get them. Kinda like guns it's not the weapon but who is behind it.

Pitbulslar esome of the most loving dogs out there. They just adore their families. However they come with certain tendancies. One of these is animal agression. A smart APBT owner knows this and act slike his dog is animal agressive at all times. My pit is a certafied theraputic pet. H eis as friednly as the day is long towards all things on 2 legs. However he is darth vader vs 4 legged critters. This does not make him deservign of death. It makes him deserving of an owner who love shim enough to keep him out of trouble depsite his antural tendancies to look for a scrap.

Fixing the pitbull problem is easy. make people get licensed if they wish to own a alrge powerful breed (Pitbull, Akita, Sheprard, Caine Corso, Dog Argentia, Americna Bulldog, Rottweiler, Doberman, Dalmatian etc) A colored lamianted picture ID you ahv eot carry at all times. No license the dog gets sezied and destroyed. Make the licence bree dspecific and have reputabl e breeders issue certificate sof completion on breed knowledge and basic dog owership and obeidance. Then require a renewal every year and renewal bieng dependant on the dog completing a modified canine good citizenship course.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 6 (view)
 
700 Ton Bomb for Iran
Posted: 4/5/2006 9:55:23 AM

Maybe the US should get their head out of their ass and think about why they are trying to take on the world and how far they are going to go with their international terrorism and bullying for their own gain and nothing else.


The US's benifit. talk aobut head sin asses. The US spends mor eon the middle east that the cost of the regions yearly oil production. Why do we continue to pour blood and treasur e into the worlds rat hole? Becuas eoil greases the international economy. The US's role in that economy is mor eand more a reciver of goods not an exporter.

The US actions are benifiting Euorpe and Asia fa rmore than America.

Now be careful your ears may ring if your brave enough to pull your head out of your ass.
 raverdad
Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Musings from the Dalai Lama - OBL, Iraq, Bush and the West
Posted: 4/3/2006 11:06:23 PM

P.S. I agree with Ravers bully analogy. However; that is also how gang wars get started.


becuase not enough force is used by the people entrusted by us tomuse force. If the court systems had not been hell bent on social engineering with minors and slammed the first bangers down hard when they starte dthier turf wars many deaths might have been avoided. Forc eis not jsut violence it takes many shapes and forms. However with those who violence as a tool effective force is not peaceful protest. It is more often than not controlled violence itself.


England has never fell. Perhaps concessions, and focusing on ones own yard DOES work hu?


Yup Chamberlaisn concessiosn that forced Chezcklovakia to give up it's mountian fortress lien and thus it's independance sure avoided war. Most historians agree Hitler could not have gone to war with out the Skoda tank works he was given by Chamberlain. That influx of forcer chezch army tansk adn production facilites streangthend the Panzer trupen enough to wage the Blitzkrieg.

As for England never falling. I'm guessing having an offspring antion with mor eindustrila out put and moeny than the res tof the world combined is more important to that curious foot note of history.

Ohh and BTW England (The Island) has fallen repeatedly in it's past. First were the monolith builders, then the Celts, then the Britons, then the Saxon's, then the Vikings.

Which brings up a great point. The Vikings loved raiding monsteries full of pacifist monks. Non Violent protest failed completely. Many monks were probably given the honor of bieng sacraficed to Odin via the Blood Eagle rite.

The victm woudl be staked to the gorund then his chest would be cut open and his ribs laid out beside him. Then his lungs would be remove dand laid out next to the ribs. Then finally the heart would be cut out and placed next to the head.
 
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