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Joined: 3/31/2007
Msg: 51 (view)
Another rightwinger caught with their pants down
Posted: 5/22/2010 8:10:15 AM
Pants up, pants down, scandal this, scandal that, financial corruption, lying, cheating, stealing, high crimes, treasonous actions .. what are people concerned about? Just about every politician and elected official has a criminal record or has been on the stand at some point for dishonesty, criminal associations and moral ineptitude anyway. Stupid people continue to vote them back into office (at every level of government) and then the media picks and chooses who they want to display for the US jurors/taxpayers anyway. It's not like all the whining is going to change a thing. Pass the cheese.

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Msg: 21 (view)
Some SOLUTIONS to America's Problems....
Posted: 5/21/2010 10:20:58 PM

The ones that are willing to commit violence to defend what they think are rights and do not understand that in a democracy you do not have rights, you have privileges. They take the retard factor to a whole new level.

How many women do you need to point out this country is a republic?
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Msg: 45 (view)
Yes Sir Mr Presdent you have my continued support
Posted: 5/20/2010 7:30:22 PM
I couldn't agree with Gerald Celente and this series of (4) thought producing audio more. Well worth the time for thinkers.
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Msg: 44 (view)
Yes Sir Mr Presdent you have my continued support
Posted: 5/20/2010 7:21:27 PM

He can also make droll jokes now about drone strikes when there are actual people (civilians in many cases, children) who get blown apart by drone strikes he gives the nod to all the time; where's the "leftist" anti-war rallying???

Amazing, isn't it?
The "change ... yes we can" rhetoric built up so much momentum based on a war we had no business being in and people who expected (at the time) a president of peace. How silently and hypnotically they now sit as it is (with so much honor) easier to disassociate their selves from the very principles of life and peace they once believed in. They cannot claim that virtue now.

Not a thought that we created and empowered our own enemies as we sought to destroy sovereign nations. (as we boastfully declared we are the world's police).

Not a whisper or rant was heard from the "peace lovers" as more troops were sent into Afghanistan (to chase what or whom out of what cave? Really) and people are still being slaughtered in Iraq (as the media shifts your attention to a new calamity on a daily basis achieving their goal of keeping you "forgetful").

Not a whisper as innocent civilians and children are slaughtered each day in their own homes, not to mention soldiers (someone's children) who really have no idea what they're there for and fighting for a cause only our government can see .. we can speculate all we want on that one but do you REALLY know?

Not a whisper as the drones you mention are hailed as a technological and military advance as opposed to what they really are, a means to control, frighten and slaughter civilians. Somehow the drones (in error, of course) managed to cross the border into Pakistan. What country is next?
They (drones) are nothing more than a guiltless murdering device that is making big corporations filthy rich.

Where is the outrage? I have no idea but those who keep silent are the one's to fear. IMO conscience matters. Lack of conscience is lethal to all existence.
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Msg: 39 (view)
Yes Sir Mr Presdent you have my continued support
Posted: 5/19/2010 7:45:20 PM
"The courses he taught were on ......constitutional law. " Is that why he's so hell bent on destroying the constitution?
Thanks for sharing about the statue .. maybe we should hang banners from the buildings in our cities far and wide. China does it. Iraq did it .. why not us, eh? Maybe not. It might actually appear to look like we're under a dictatorship. ;-)
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Msg: 38 (view)
Yes Sir Mr Presdent you have my continued support
Posted: 5/19/2010 7:43:25 PM
Yes Mr. President, you will have my support to continue to carry on the policies of George Bush like you have done so and congrats for taking things even a few steps further. I am pleased you see the benefits to the wealthy elites and corporations by agreeing with wiretapping, surveillance of citizens, unconstitutional entanglements with foreign countries, destroying sovereignty here and abroad in your globalist quest for an international (one world) government, keeping NAFTA alive so our jobs can continue to flow to "less fortunate" countries, the continued allegiance to sending OUR children to their deaths by participating in as many unconstitutional wars as possible, continuing the fear mongering that you also campaigned against, spending our hard earned money so you can decide how we may live (poorly and deservedly so), expanding our government and military (again taking our children), bailouts for those "to big to fail", bailouts for foreign countries who's large government spending has made them bankrupt, the continued bankrupting of this country, body scanning, biometric National IDs (on it's way from the looks of it), and keeping the people in a coma fighting against "the other party" (as if there were only two), keeping the masses divided by any means necessary etc., etc., etc., to keep those unable to critically think for selves in the dark (by the way, good strategy), and more taxes under the guise of global warming and cap and trade .. after all, the game has been played repeatedly for decades and the road to serfdom has much appeal to the masses who can't imagine what's going on. Yeppers, I'm all for it.

As Gerald Celente said, it's time to wake up and really see what this game is all about and who the players are. He summed it up in six words: Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Bullets, Bombs and Banks. (Not we the people).
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Msg: 30 (view)
Why are so many unemployeed
Posted: 3/6/2010 7:35:11 PM
You can argue there are jobs out there that people aren't qualified for and the ones who are face serious competition. But remember, NAFTA and CAFTA created the job losses directly. Wake up.
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Msg: 7 (view)
15 Year Old Boy Rapes Autistic Woman In Broad Daylight
Posted: 1/21/2010 4:30:47 PM
This has been going on for sometime - nothing new.
(Many) years ago I was 6 mos. pregnant when a large black man pulled open my car door in a supermarket parking lot (broad daylight) and stuck a knife into my side demanding for me to move over. Having lost a child 8 months earlier, the (instantaneous) thought that this **stard was threatening my new life sent me over the deep end and I literally kicked him from my car door, bolted out swinging, kicking, shoving this so called 6'+ "bad-ass" all over the parking lot. He reluctantly stood there backing away slowly, with his knife in his pocket. Then he started yelling at me and the only words he could say while I was going postal was, "you're a crazy ****" before he ran. Damn straight! I was protecting my own.

Did anyone in the parking lot even try to help me? Not one. Too many people saw the whole thing, including a church bus full of (predominantly male) passengers that was parked next to me. Wouldn't you have thought that helping me would've been the Christianly thing to do? Not once did anyone even ask if I was alright when it was over.

Some may argue, I was putting my life and that of my unborn child in harms way by fighting back. I'll argue, do you assume after he carjacked me (with me in the car), he intended to drop me off at my house to make sure I got home safely?
Be not a victim but a survivor. If you're going to go down, go down fighting and give it all you've got. Chances are, no one will stop to help you.
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Msg: 39 (view)
When do you accept that you're going to die?
Posted: 1/21/2010 3:18:15 PM
When you accept that ironically, it's a part of life.
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Msg: 109 (view)
Is this a Hate Crime ?
Posted: 1/16/2010 12:18:16 AM
Without hate crimes legislation to expand current law to include crimes, there would be fewer laws to convict based on gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or disability.
Hate crimes legislation is rooted in the 1998 incident involving James Byrd, a black man who was dragged behind a pickup truck, and gay teenager Matthew Shepard who was left to die while tied to a fence.
If we had no attacks based only on sexual orientation or gender, in addition to race, colour, religion, or national origin, perhaps we wouldn't need such legislation.

^^^^This is ludicrious rationalizing ..
Attorney General Eric Holder testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday, June 25, 2009. Holder said that hate crime laws are designed to protect "only groups" such that have been targeted on a "historical basis" such as African-Americans, Hispanics, Jews, and gays.

Dear fair skinned, blond haired woman or you, fair skinned man or you little innocent child who have just been savagely beaten and left in a vegetative state or succumbed to demise by someone who "hated" the color of your fair skin, the color of your hair or the fact that you were crying too much – word is, you are NOT within the "protected category". So what now? We should rationalize the predator or viscious animal who harmed you or took your life deserves a more lenient punishment because your life is worth less than anothers?
That's exactly the psychology you are prescribing to. You should be prescribing to a moral one .. do unto others as you would have them do unto you. It would sooner unite people.

Our current political system is obviously dividing people further by subcategorizing them into groups. There will never be unity when one's life is determined more valuable than anothers.
These are crimes against humanity regardless who the victim is. There is NO class deserving more protection than another -unless some of YOU feel only certain people are due justice more than others.
What would that line of reasoning categorize you as? I am sure there is someone just waiting to categorize me.
One example of what is not considered a "hate crime" .. why not?

Morals, compassion, empathy ... nothing further needed.
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Msg: 38 (view)
What do you think?
Posted: 12/12/2009 5:19:36 PM

So what if he won the election, that does not mean he is a Natural Born Citizen. fact, it does.
Obviously, the question of his birth came up long before he decided to run for Office, right? This isn't 'Breaking News'.

^^^ School me with some facts on how it does. I'd be interested to know.

IMO, there are many questions that need to be answered about the last three administrations (at minimum) through independent investigation and transparency. Like that'll happen any time soon, aye? This is only one questionable instance of many.
Or shall we sweep everything under the rug like mainstream media has been doing .. all the way up to the incidences of climategate which people either know nothing of or refuse to acknowledge as highly suspect.

I believe the tin foil hat types have him born in a muslim country and inserted here after being indoctrinated in how to destroy the U.S.A., or something like that.

^^^^ Every time I see something like this just reinforces my idea that a great many people have the inability for critical/objective thinking which is the key ingredient to separating fact from myth.
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Msg: 36 (view)
What do you think?
Posted: 12/12/2009 6:32:43 AM

The question is aimed at obama.
He has never showed us his REAL Birth Certificate.

That's exactly what it means. Some of us who kept up with politics know this.
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Msg: 96 (view)
What's your TYPE?
Posted: 12/12/2009 6:26:26 AM

So, what really is the "type" ? I know a termin called "compatibility" which makes complete sense to me, but the "type" is more of termin which concerns to cars, clothing etc. Like you say "I like this type of car" or "I like sporty type of clothing". You don't say "I like this type of man" or do you?

Sorot, maybe it's just me - but I see pages of posts describing what they look for in a mate but not answering your question. Funny how the mind works or doesn't work.

Type .. as in "stereotype" which means nothing more than "giving a fixed form to". Most of the posters have seemed to describe physical attributes which they find appealing and/or ideal. (giving it a fixed form or mental image).
Tah Dah! Question answered.
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Msg: 10 (view)
What to write a prisoner
Posted: 12/9/2009 8:00:03 PM

He's in for drug trafficking. He had a sordid past which he had actually put behind him, as far as I know

Sounds like he had to put his past behind him .. think about it. Not that everyone doesn't deserve a chance but prison usually has a high recidivism rate. Wonder what his rap sheet looks like. There are many things to consider before you dive in and befriend someone you really don't know. I'd suggest doing your homework .. a little research on him. It's likely you don't know half the story. Crimes of this nature are not usually victimless. Seek and you may find more than you care to.

Exercise caution.
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Msg: 37 (view)
Christmas is just a waste of resources ... ?
Posted: 12/8/2009 7:45:32 PM

As is often mentioned with Hallmark and Valentine's day, I find that Xmas has lost some of it's meaning. I agree with Passionate Gent that Xmas should be a season of wishing good will to all men, but it has often become a time where good will has to come in either a bow wrapped around a Lexus or a ring from Zales.

Maybe you better stop dating those kind of women.
I'll settle for good health, safety and some lottery tickets.
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Msg: 26 (view)
Christmas is just a waste of resources ... ?
Posted: 12/6/2009 2:14:12 PM

Over the last ten years or so, I have become quite disgusted with our society and how Christmas has just become a big grab for material possessions and displays of wealth.

So I'm driving down the block and I see a house with a porch (roof) up on 20' wooden stilts (porch needing some repair). Having seen this for a few months now, it really started to annoy me considering each year this family happens to jam-pack their front lawn with more and more expensive Halloween and Xmas lawn de-crapor-ations - by far the most expensive displays of various types and huge in size. (Dude and dudette, why haven't you taken that money and fixed that eyesore of a porch instead???)
And all I can think of is why other nations perceive Americans as wasteful, spoiled and having their priorities ass-backwards.

BTW, Merry Christmas.
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Msg: 11 (view)
Breaking news , US finally admits Bin Laden dead since 2001
Posted: 12/6/2009 1:18:33 PM
Prior to her assassination Benazir Bhutto didn't hiccup when she mentioned Bin Laden was dead in an interview with David Frost.
But of course - we don't hear these things ... (Hands over ears >>>"LaLaLaLaLaLaLa ...")
and on and on ..
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Msg: 69 (view)
Nose & Ear Hair
Posted: 12/5/2009 6:49:32 AM
Just thinking ...
And in the cold of winter when his nasal passages are dripping and little ice crystals are forming ....
Why are his ear hairs darker than the hair on his head ? I can whisper in his ear just to get my lips tickled. Is that a benefit I wish to do without?
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Msg: 4 (view)
Breed Specific Legislation, think your pet is safe?
Posted: 12/5/2009 6:34:49 AM
Guess Kong and I aren't going to Iowa anytime soon.
Iowa politician who pushed for pit bull ban seeks mercy for his Labrador that bit a neighbor:
I think the politician should be quarantined and serve one year in a kennel.
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Msg: 33 (view)
women and police officers
Posted: 12/4/2009 7:38:58 PM
I've managed to get warnings until I "met up with" a cop on the highway and told him he looked like John Denver .. I don't think he liked John Denver very much.
<<<< Meet John Denver ...
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Msg: 50 (view)
you're fired!
Posted: 12/4/2009 7:34:21 PM
Never fired .. just escorted out of the casino .. lol
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Msg: 16 (view)
What is the likelihood?
Posted: 12/4/2009 7:28:10 PM
What is the likelihood of meeting a long term partner?
Which tree is the most green in a national forest?
I've met a few (very few) nice people that I remain friends with. Thankfully.
Then I've met the guy/guys who:
- Can't connect emotionally
- Doesn't want to commit because he has never committed (why start now?)
- Drinks the drunks under the table
- Is always on the defensive .. (I dare to speak a word or I might just end up a missing person)
- Couldn't seem to hold eye contact or conversation in real-time (but is quite successful online)
- Wasn't sure if he wanted male or female ( but time would tell and I should be the guinea pig right?)
- Picked apart everything I wore (and reneged on his suggestion that he should take me shopping .. lol)
- Called to let me know he was in the county jail but had "work release"
- Can't drive his car until "the boot" is removed from his wheel (and ignition intercepter too)
- Couldn't take "not interested in a second date" and text me 43 messages to tell me this
- Was separated and waiting for his divorce to go through (he just forgot to tell his wife about it)
- Rambled on incessantly about himself (uh, hello .. you have company at your table)
- And the guy who you hit off with (so very well .. you know when you have a long evening together and you both have a great time) but because you didn't go somewhere to "be alone with" never calls back ...
NEXT! (or maybe not)
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Msg: 20 (view)
Debating with the fokes about employment.
Posted: 12/4/2009 6:24:03 PM
Lets see ...
Every parent wants their children to "succeed and exceed". That's how you need to look at your father's prompting. Unfortunately, parents aren't always supportive of the goals we set for ourselves or in your case likely doesn't understand the potential you see.
I have to agree that if you are financially able to support yourself and your son, and aren't collecting welfare to make your ends meet, you should follow your dreams. Whether success or failure, you will always be able to say the risk taken taught you plenty.

If on the other hand you're financially struggling, I would advise picking up a job and working your dreams when your free time allows. Success takes hard work and long hours and sleepless nights. When the time comes to set yourself free and jump full time into your dream job, you'll know it.
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Msg: 33 (view)
How to keep the perfume smell on you?
Posted: 12/1/2009 7:33:56 PM
"eau de toilettes" and that's exactly where the stuff belongs ..
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Msg: 29 (view)
How to keep the perfume smell on you?
Posted: 12/1/2009 3:46:52 PM
Worried about an alcohol based perfume? LOL .. it gets better.

Facts About Fragrances

At least 1 person in every 5 gets sick from breathing scented products that others wear
The National Academy of Sciences, (a US Government agency), says that scented products are "toxic to the brain"
The AMA, the EPA and the American Lung Association (ALA) all agree that fragrances can make asthma and respiratory problems worse
Even the U.S. Fragrance Association (an organization that promotes fragrances) recommends that scented products only be used if they are not detectable at an arm's length distance away
When you are smelling the scent, you are breathing in the chemicals. So if someone is close to you and can smell the fragrance from your scented laundry detergent or perfume, they (and you!) are breathing in the chemicals
Petrochemical compounds, which are in most scented products, can enter the body through the skin
Adverse reactions caused by fragrances include headaches, migraines, sinus problems, sore and hoarse throat, lung and throat swelling and asthma reactions
Scented products, including perfumes, laundry detergents, dryer sheets and more can stick to clothes and your body throughout the day, and still cause reactions in others hours after you put them on
In fact, laundry detergents with fragrances are designed to be long lasting, and hence release chemicals all day long. These scents can and do remain even after several washings for many weeks
Fabric softener is made specifically to stick to clothes, but it does often flake off as you wear it, and these flakes can irritate the airways of people with allergies, sinus congestion, asthma and more
Many fragrances contain chemicals that were made to change your mood. This means that they can and do change the chemicals in your brain.
The chemicals from synthetic fragrances can also make it harder for you to pay attention or concentrate, to remember things and to think clearly
The term air freshener is really misleading. First of all, fresh air does not have an odor, second of all, adding another chemical to the air to try to cover the smell does not make that air more fresh, it actually makes it more toxic
According to the American Academy of Allergy, Asthma, and Immunology, most people with asthma react to synthetic fragrance exposure and experience a reduction in lung function.

I prefer soap and water and it works too! .. no need to support an unregulated industry.
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Msg: 59 (view)
What is going to happen to/in America?
Posted: 11/29/2009 8:24:12 PM
Throughout history people haven't waken up until they've lost everything .. their sovereignty & their individual rights that were fought for with the bloodshed of others. How soon we forget when we wear rose-colored glasses. The "bad guys" do exist and so does blind optimism as self evident from some posts on this thread.
Who doesn't want a Utopia? Please name one person.
It certainly doesn't begin with taking away individual rights, surveilling free citizens (which in all reality means you are no longer free), intercepting & interfering in freedom of speech, censoring the internet, lulling and herding societies into a "feel good coma" through controlled media, slowly but certainly allowing legislation to be passed while ignoring the will of the people, expanding governments to control every aspect of your life and that which is taught to your children, quelling those who have a dissenting voice and bailing out crooks who wield too much financial power over the masses.

There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism—by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.

“Foreign Policy Drains U.S. of Main Weapon,”
Los Angeles Times, Sept. 9, 1962, G2
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Msg: 57 (view)
What is going to happen to/in America?
Posted: 11/27/2009 7:31:19 PM
^^^ I suppose you have experiences to speak of .. ^^^ You're not even making the connection. (Not surprising)
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Msg: 56 (view)
What is going to happen to/in America?
Posted: 11/27/2009 7:11:25 PM
Hmmm .. I read this article and thought I'd share the link.
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Msg: 7 (view)
Stories and updates from the Swine Flu Front.
Posted: 11/27/2009 6:29:16 PM
Never had a flu shot and never will. Too many friends of mine are doctors who don't believe in these vaccinations.
Here's some interesting reading:
If you want to get into webinars on vaccines there is a list of coming webinars down the page. There is also live question and answer after the webinar lectures:

And what about the covering up of the autism link to childhood vaccinations?
Robert Kennedy, Jr. has been pretty outspoken on this:
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Msg: 24 (view)
People who describe themselves as attractive and beutiful...
Posted: 11/27/2009 6:09:56 PM
I must admit I find it over the top. I agree beauty is in the eye of the beholder but just because someone says they are attractive doesn't mean anyone else is going to think so. I personally have had a few people try and sell theirselves to me by doing just that .. "I'm very handsome and can guarantee you, you won't be disappointed". I was disappointed. There was no chemistry. Try selling me a used car next time.
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Msg: 80 (view)
Why is violence for self defence acceptable by law since you can just run away instead?
Posted: 11/27/2009 5:54:39 PM
^^^^Prime Woman, that's right! And with all the crime against women (and children) these days, it wouldn't be a bad idea for women to go for CCW classes and get their permit to carry .. unless you're in a state where you don't have to go through all the red tape. Nothing wrong with taking other forms of self-defense classes either. Shit does happen.
The only thing I can think of as far as people who are clueless about self preservation is that they haven't been in a situation where a split second was all you had to react. (and hopefully, most people won't find themselves in that situation either).
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Msg: 77 (view)
Why is violence for self defence acceptable by law since you can just run away instead?
Posted: 11/26/2009 8:02:04 PM

You can't honestly expect someone to do nothing while be attacked, even if the attack isn't likely to be lethal

Life holds within it a golden rule that civilized people should be aware of by now.
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Msg: 72 (view)
Why is violence for self defence acceptable by law since you can just run away instead?
Posted: 11/25/2009 11:39:07 PM

Just wondering why you don't get in trouble from the law if you physically hit someone to defend yourself against them because they started hitting you first, since you can run away instead.
Okay, you can't run away in all situations, but what about he situations (which are probably the majority) where you can?

I'm shaking my head at this .. as in what are you TRYING to ask?
Common sense would tell you that "if you physically hit someone TO DEFEND YOURSELF against them" you answered the question I think you were TRYING to ask.
There is a difference between a mere physical altercation and the instinct to defend your life. I would think that if you had the opportunity to run ... you were not in IMMEDIATE danger of losing your life . Some of us know the difference .
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Msg: 19 (view)
11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 5:35:44 PM

At least it's not as bad as the other 'believe it, or not' story of the day; a 113 year-old man marrying an 11 year-old girl in an arab state. Now THAT is f*cked-up!

Well he probably needed someone to push his wheelchair .... he could've just offered her some candy...
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Msg: 9 (view)
Stimulus Spending Not Working?
Posted: 9/7/2009 4:55:24 AM
Obviously, not working. Did anyone believe it (the fraud) would?

The Labor Department said Friday that the unemployment rate rose to 9.7 percent in August, the government said. With 216,000 jobs lost, unemployment has reached levels last seen in 1983.,0,305490.story
Go globalists!
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Msg: 3 (view)
Obama passing new law to allow searching of PC's, Laptops, and media devices
Posted: 3/29/2009 9:42:46 AM
From what I was able to determine ... it was implemented by the Bush Administration and Obama is looking into it further.

Just like he looked into FISA further. Campaigned against it - voted for it.

Wow, is Obama going to be blamed for going into Iraq without reason next?

No. He'll likely be blamed for continually changing his withdrawl timetables and escalating wars elsewhere.,8599,1888257,00.html
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Msg: 9 (view)
Don't fear Auntie...Obama to the Rescue
Posted: 3/28/2009 1:03:16 PM

" He stated he was NOT going to throw good money after bad. AIG had to be bailed out...bonuses HAD to be paid (or else the people owed those bonuses would have sued and won!) GM has the ball now....change, or go bust. Their choice.

No one had to be bailed out.. particularly the banksters. We keep bailing out the incompetent schmucks that got us into this mess in the first place. Where is Donald Trump when you need him? YOU'RE FIRED!
Let the competent take over instead of funding the corrupt banking cartels. Why sacrifice your children's future for these bums? Why should they be born into so much debt. (Enslaved to the banksters.)
These greed driven hypocrits don't care about you ... they own you.
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Msg: 24 (view)
Why can't we let banks fail?
Posted: 3/27/2009 7:46:23 PM

Or if you don't want to lose two hours of your life you'll never get back by going to a "source" that should be clearly labeled "conspiracy info-tainment", don't.

I agree. Why would people want to watch something that makes perfect sense and where they could actually learn something. Keep the mind closed and pacified by empty words is a good motto. So is "The meek shall inherit the earth."
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Msg: 9 (view)
An ACTUAL solution to the economic problems....
Posted: 3/21/2009 7:51:09 AM
Well I'd really like to live w/my head in the sand .. such a blissful thought but it's not going to happen.
After watch the series of 20/20 videos, I realize there is a glimmer of hope if people stand their ground and start thinking again. The first step to a solution is dealing with reality because all is not a bed of roses. Snap out of it!
Series of 6 clips.
Bailouts and Bullshit:

And just who is really in power here? Why do we believe it begins and ends w/a president? It ended with Kennedy. And while we're so consumed with "CRISIS" do we realize there is an undertow that created this mess and continually pulls us into this vortex which makes us believe only a handful of people know whats best for us. Who will decide our fate?
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Msg: 27 (view)
The New America
Posted: 3/11/2009 10:35:26 PM

Most feel this way? Really? Most? Considering the amount of people who went out and voted in last ellection, and acknowledging that many of the people who didn't vote did so for other reasons. The number of people who really think there is no difference between the two parties makes up a minority.
Maybe most of the people you tal;k to, but that just shows you're in an echo chamber.

The echo chamber, comprised of researchers, economists, thinkers and truth seekers, is doing precisely what it intends to do - wake up druids. Babyface, you're still the same.
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Msg: 25 (view)
The New America
Posted: 3/11/2009 9:01:07 PM

It must be terrible to have supported the party that let the American economy slide into the mess it is in today,

Most can see there is little difference between the collaborators for the NWO.
Why do these threads always turn into party bashing or party cheerleading when people should focus on "little things" like Human Rights, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, accountability, transparency, liberty, freedom, sovereignty, the truth, protecting and serving "We The People" ....
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Msg: 141 (view)
2009 plan for the economy
Posted: 3/10/2009 7:36:18 PM

It looks like the economy is in full recovery with the dow climbing almost 400 points today, did you predict this ?

.. laughter is always the best medicine and a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
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Msg: 137 (view)
2009 plan for the economy
Posted: 3/8/2009 8:28:21 PM
Lets see ... an average of 600,000 jobs lost each month, bailing out the incompetent instead of letting them fall and letting the competent take over, and creating more DEBT to get out of DEBT .. you tell me what the plans for the the 2009 economy are.
Some people are making sense of it all .. but who's listening?
Joined: 3/31/2007
Msg: 13 (view)
If you make less than $250,000. in one year ..........
Posted: 2/25/2009 4:35:40 PM
RE: Total Economic Collapse

And we can thank the wealthy for that. You want out of this mess? Here is the solution: Strip the wealthy of their wealth through progressive taxes and redistribute it.

I want to laugh so hard I cry ...
And just who do you think these "wealthy" are? I have nothing against the people who've made their fortunes legitimately and who's fortunes pale in comparison to the banking elites (the bloodlines) who not only control the government, have shaped our policies, created the economic roller coasters and consider human beings a source of revenue from birth ... from the time you are born, you are just a number and $$$ enslaved to the corporations ... USA being one.
The only break you're going to get is a lunch break while performing your obligations to these people.
Joined: 3/31/2007
Msg: 221 (view)
Medical Insurance for all
Posted: 2/22/2009 8:18:29 PM
healthcare should be free for all who live.

I agree with this. I do not agree with the formulas proposed
The issue I have if you read the article is:
1) The proposed legislation was slipped into the "stimulus package". Note: slipped into which is the way they do things here and people only find out after the fact, never have a say and it gets passed through under everyone's nose hastily without consideration.
The stimulus bill does that, and calls it the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research (190-192). The goal, Daschle’s book explained, is to slow the development and use of new medications and technologies because they are driving up costs. He praises Europeans for being more willing to accept “hopeless diagnoses” and “forgo experimental treatments,” and he chastises Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system.
3) Elderly Hardest Hit
Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.
4) The Federal Council is modeled after a U.K. board discussed in Daschle’s book. This board approves or rejects treatments using a formula that divides the cost of the treatment by the number of years the patient is likely to benefit.

Why is it so many of my close friends from Canada, and I have many, (and their elderly parents) come across the border for healthcare? Just a thought.
Joined: 3/31/2007
Msg: 128 (view)
How do you really feel about this large stimulus package?
Posted: 2/22/2009 6:51:38 PM
Two very dissimilar things, surly you misspeak. One compromises your personal freedoms
the other a spending package.

Surely I did not misspeak at all. Perhaps you haven't made the connection although, the article I posted explains it quite well. As did the link to another article. This is not a partisan issue and one that I would hope all people should be concerned about.

and what about health care in this nation?, a side issue , not germain to the thread.

Surely you've missed something very important. Might want to read the link I provided. As with the Patriot Act, the Stimulus Package was once again passed in a manner of theives in the night. As with the Patriot Act, it now comes to light there is hidden legislation proposed. (This time, healthcare). Transparency? And if you don't think this form of rationing healthcare, particularly for the elderly doesn't affect personal freedom, and that obligation of doctors to their patients, then possibly you need to give some deeper thought to it.

...Hiding health legislation in a stimulus bill is intentional. Daschle supported the Clinton administration’s health-care overhaul in 1994, and attributed its failure to debate and delay. A year ago, Daschle wrote that the next president should act quickly before critics mount an opposition. “If that means attaching a health-care plan to the federal budget, so be it,” he said. “The issue is too important to be stalled by Senate protocol.”
~Betsy McCaughey

Read the full article.
Joined: 3/31/2007
Msg: 218 (view)
Medical Insurance for all
Posted: 2/22/2009 8:42:19 AM
Get ready for your socialized medicine ... do not take with a grain of salt.
Little do you know it'll be playing at a doctor's office near you (in the near future)
Joined: 3/31/2007
Msg: 127 (view)
How do you really feel about this large stimulus package?
Posted: 2/22/2009 8:19:38 AM
I feel the same way about this "stimulus" package as I do about the Patriot Act. Where they will have the opportunity to slip something in under your nose, they will and it's beginning to come to light slowly .. especially where your health matters are of concern.

Prison Healthcare Now For Everyone
by KRusso
Much of the criticism of the $787 billion stimulus bill is focused on its cost. But what's really at issue is a matter of life and death. Buried deep in the package, there is an expensive new healthcare program that could jeopardize the health, even the lives, of millions of patients, yours included. [emphasis mine].
Healthcare in this country will mirror that of prison healthcare-----an already existing medical gulag. This program is so serious and one of the main reasons Daschle did’t want hearings on it. It was reported that he stated it would be far easier and faster to "slip and slide" this healthcare nightmare under the radar so the American public wouldn’t have a clue what was happening or than to have to go through the democratic channels in the Senate for discussion. Premeditatedly folks, Obama andCompany Dashcle usurped the democratic process...
What you’re now getting force fed down your throats by Obama and Company is socialized medicine. It is the exact same healthcare system inmates in this country are being forced to endure. Prison healthcare is SOCIALIZED medicine. It does NOT work.

Obama has premeditatedly not posted anything on the Federal Register. For those of you who don’t know what the Federal Register is, go read about it:
Get educated! Get your head out of the sand.

Every American should be outraged about this except of course, for the 52% that voted for Obama. But for those in that 52%, unfortunately the majority of them had (have) no idea what they voted for or had a clue of the scope and ramifications their own vote was going to have on them.

The average American “the person who pays his bills, works 10-14-16 hours per day, isn't on welfare, and pays his taxes now gets to pick up the tab for those who do nothing and produce nothing. That average American now is forced to pick up the tab for the healthcare for everyone under the new program. And of course also now funds welfare recipients indefinitely...

Families & Friends of Inmates
For those of you who are families and friends of inmates you should be very, very worried about what this president has deceitfully pushed through without any oversight and transparency.
If you have been directly or indirectly involved in the mismanagement of healthcare within a prison system, know first-hand of its mismanagement and meting out of permanent disability and death, you know first hand how bad it is. You’ll also get a taste of it yourself because you’re going to be experiencing it yourself under the healthcare plan.

Said another way for those of you who still may not understand:
If you’re 60 years old or even 70 years old, and need a knee replacement the federal government is going to take the cost of that knee replacement and divide it by the number of years that it would be helpful for you. If you don’t fit into THEIR formula as to what is "medically necessary" you aren’t going to get that knee replacement. No matter what you want and no matter what your doctor says.

That goes for any medical condition, any procedure, any surgery, any prescription drug, any cancer treatment. It’s called "standardization of care." What one doctor prescribes will be the standard for everyone. Said yet another way..... If a drug works for a person in Idaho then the formula is that the same drug will work in Ohio even if your doctor doesn’t think so.

The Federal government ladies and gentlemen does not have the authority to take the place of a private decision between a doctor and his patients. Under this program as it stands, it will. Get your seatbelt on. Get your ducks in a row. And for those of you who voted for this president, accountability is everything, yours included.
About K. Russo:
Institute fields questions concerning consumer rights--specifically educating the public on what their rights are concerning medical care, legal representation, what their rights are concerning autopsies, what their rights are as visitors within a prison system.
~Founder and Director of The Wrongful Death Institute

Still not getting it? Read the article below.
Ruin Your Health With the Obama Stimulus Plan: Betsy McCaughey
Joined: 3/31/2007
Msg: 115 (view)
How do you really feel about this large stimulus package?
Posted: 2/17/2009 4:00:20 PM
The government routinely spends billions on pork, and it didn't prevent the mess we're in. I don't understand why they think that throwing good money after bad is a good idea.

A few reasons why (feel free to add to the list):
1. Because they can.
2. Because it's YOUR money.
3. Because no one will do a damn thing about it.
4. Because this administration is only a continuation of the last administration.
Joined: 3/31/2007
Msg: 77 (view)
How do you really feel about this large stimulus package?
Posted: 2/10/2009 8:23:09 PM
The entire natioaal debt is currently at about $10.721,993,465,915.77, which comes out to be about $35,082.21 for every man, woman, and child living in the US today. And we are going to borrow another $900,000,000,000 for a quick fix totryand stimulate the economy? Seriously? It's like continuing to pay one credit card off by using another credit card. And this is for the good of the futures of our children and grandchildren? How does guaranteeing that our children and grandchildren will have no money do any good for their future?

This is how you enslave the people. I've not rationalized robbing the poor to pay the wealthy, nor have I rationalized how we can get out of debt by getting further in debt.

Come to think of it I recall Obama saying "those jobs aren't coming back". Well they're not, but there will be plenty more jobs in the govt, military and law enforcement. Where is this heading??? Green jobs that won't make a dent.. Doesn't this have anyone wondering?
Obama is only a pawn to the internationalists and elites that have taken control of our govt. It's not a matter of waking up in time to realize this. It was planned this way. No accident - history tell us so.

As long as people stay politically divided and keep cheering the teams on, nothing is going to change.
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